WEBVTT 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [STATIC fades into HEAVENLY MUSIC CHORD] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [low-reverberating tone] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [ominous music] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Now what I'm going to is strap down your arms to avoid any excessive movement on your part during the experiment. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Is that too tight? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 It's fine. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Okay. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 This electrode is connected to the shock generator in the next room. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Buzz buzz] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And this electrode pace is to provide a good contact to avoid any blister or burn. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I'm now gonna shock of 75 volts. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [From off-camera] Hold! 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 He kinda did some yelling in there. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 75 volts. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Off-screen yell] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Laughing] He yelled though. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Off-screen] Please continue. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 This will be at 330. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Buzz and off-screen long scream] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Just how far can you go in this thing? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Off-screen] As far as necessary. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Off screen shouting] I can't stand the pain, get me out of here! 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Overlapping] He can't stand it, I'm not gonna kill that man there. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 You hear him hollering [unintelligible]? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Overlapping from off-screen] 94. Those shocks may be painful, but they're not dangerous. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Overlapping] Yeah but they're hollering, he can't stand it, what if something happens to him? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Off-screen] The experiment requires that you continue teaching. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Yeah but uh, [nervous laughing] I'm not gonna get that man sick in there. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I mean he's hollering in there. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I mean who's gonna take the responsibility if anything happens to that gentleman in there? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Off-screen] I'm responsible for anything that happens here. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Off-screen] Continue, please. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 285 volts. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Buzz and screaming off-camera] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Off-screen] Continue please. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Ominous music turns lamenting] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Voice over] That place turned me into a monster. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I was very angry. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 You know this being Abu Ghraib, change your whole mindframe. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 You know, you can go from ... being a docile, you know and a ... jolly guy, and you go to Abu Ghraib for a few ... 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 You know you be in Iraq for- for a while, you know, you become, you know, a robot. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Different voice over] It was a door I was afraid to walk through. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 You know if you walk through it ... at which point do you say "It's enough"? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 You know "What's- what's cruel enough?" How do you go back from that? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And I was afraid that ... I- I just wouldn't come back. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 That I would just ... get lost. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Different voice over] Something in your brain clicks that ... everything you is- is normal. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I mean y-you'll go crazy if you don't adapt to what you're seeing. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 You gotta block it out. Y-You gotta do something to ... make your day go by. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Without going crazy. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Music turns ominous again under the sound of a flying helicopter] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Voice over of Pres. G.W. Bush] These acts of mass murder were intended to frighten our nation into chaos and retreat. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 But they have failed. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Our country is strong. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 A great people has been moved to defend a great nation. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 America and our friends and allies join with all those who want peace and security in the world. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And we stand together to win the war against terrorism. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Different voice over] I was in an Algebra 2 class. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And it was just a regular day, we were sitting down ready for class and then there was an announcement. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 It just brought into real retrospect when my friend, uh, Chris, he leaned over and he's like, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 "Hey aren't you in the Reserves?" 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I thought, "Yes. Yes I am in the Reserves. How is this gonna effect me?" 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Different voice over] The ultimate reason I joined was to ... be a part of the effort to make the country a safer place. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I wanted to help protect our ... country so that this ... people that wanted to come in and attack us wouldn't have that opportunity again. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Different voice over] It made me feel like ... we have to do something. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 It made me feel like, you know, someone has to pay. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 It's like we can't ... let two buildings get blown up and not do anything about it. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Pres. G.W. Bush voice over] On my orders, the United States Military has begun strikes against Al Qaeda terrorist training camps 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and military installations of the Taliban regime in Afghanistan. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And we will do whatever it takes to smoke 'em out and get 'em running and we'll get 'em. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Dramatic music] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Tank shot] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Voice over] The Geneva Conventions ... question doesn't really come up until the war in Afghanistan starts. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And people start to come into the custody of our forces there. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And so the Defense Department wants to know what is the status of the people we're catching? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Al Qaeda and Taliban, uh, fighters? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Ominous music] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Government crowd muttering] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Voice over] The four current Geneva Conventions were adopted in 1949. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And they represent the standards against which all nations and all combating forces are gonna be- will be judged. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 They're a binding international law. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And they represent a humanitarian and human rights standard for the world. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 They're important because the US Military has been frequently engaged in combat. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 American forces are always at risk of being captured. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And the Geneva Conventions protect American soldiers from ill treatment in the event of capture. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 After the American Civil War and up until the second World War, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 The United States was consistently known for observing standards that were, in fact, higher than the Geneva Convention standards. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And consistently advocating that all countries should operate to a level above the Geneva Convention standards. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Voice over] At the Justice Department, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 we did not think the Geneva Conventions applied in the war against Al Qaeda. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Because they did not sign the Geneva Conventions. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And they don't follow any of the rules of warfare. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Al Qaeda, if you look at what happened on 9/11, has no interest in following any of those rules. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 They deliberately kill civilians, they deliberately target civilians. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Um, they disguise themselves as civilians. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 They don't take prisoners, as far as we can tell, instead they try to kidnap people and execute them on the web or on television. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Different voice over] Officials in the White House, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and particularly the Department of Justice, said Geneva Conventions shouldn't hold sway, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and that kind of view finally triumphed. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 The President made the decision in early 2002 that Geneva Conventions would not hold, um, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and this was unprecedented in American history. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Never happened before. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 The war is a terrible thing. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And it's always right on the edge of falling apart. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Uh, of- of awful things happening, and the only way -- sort of ironically -- uh, the only way to conduct a war 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 in a civilized manner is to ensure that everybody understands what the rules are 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to the maximum extent possible. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And when you start messing around with those rules, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 when you say they don't apply, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 they're all terrorists so different rules apply, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 now you're in unlimited warfare. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Voice over from footage] You know, be handled, uh not as prisoners of war, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 because they're not, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but as unlawful combatants, um, they- as I understand it, technically unlawful combatants 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 do not have any rights under the Geneva Convention. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 This war was a war that was going to depend, first and foremost on intelligence, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that is on information, uh, derived from prisoners of war. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Therefore rules regarding interrogation -- what you could and couldn't do to prisoners -- uh, were absolutely central to fighting this new war. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [lamenting music] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Voice over] The Department of Justice built a theory that essentially would render moot, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 render powerless, the various undertakings that the United States had signed onto, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 uh, that had prohibited torture. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 The most obvious one is the convention against torture. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Different voice over] The statute does not define many of the terms that it uses. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 It doesn't say what "severe" means, for example. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 It doesn't really contain any definition of "physical pain or suffering." 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So our job was try to figure what did that statue actually mean? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Because the words are ambiguous, vague, and had not been interpreted before. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 You know our office eventually issued a memo in August of 2002. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 To the White House. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 "Physical pain amounting to torture must be equivalent in intensity to the pain 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 accompanying serious physical injury, such as organ failure, impairment of bodily function, or even death." 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 The heart of this argument is to redefine torture so it is so narrowly conceived it essentially allows 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 very, very serious interrogation, uh, that cannot be construed to be torture. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 What this memo articulates is the view that torture's prohibited, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but torture's defined very, very narrowly to, uh, consist almost of, uh, imminent death 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 or loss of bodily, uh, organ or function. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Um, a- a definition of torture that was later criticized by another observer as 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 the kind of definition that probably would've justified most of what Saddam Hussein was doing in his prisons as not being torture. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I can remember sitting in my office and I'm ... reading some of these memos ... 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 It was stunning it took- it- it literally took my breath away, I couldn't believe that I was reading this, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and that it hadn't been shredded and burned and buried as- as the wild imaginations of- of some 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [fumbling for words] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 lowly lawyer in the bowels of justice. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 This should never see the light of day. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 But now, suddenly, it's become US policy! 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [ominous music] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Pres. G.W. Bush voice over] Iraq continues to flaunt its hostility towards America and to support terror. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 The terrorist threat to America and the world will be diminished the moment that Saddam Hussein is disarmed. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And we believe he has, in fact, reconstituted with their weapons. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 There's no doubt in my mind that- that he has weapons, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 chemical and biological weapons, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and has been working on, uh, nuclear weapons. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [explosion] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [more explosions] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Voice over] When we first got to Iraq we saw, you know, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 well, blown up tanks, you know they were bombed from the sky. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 You know, bullet holes everywhere. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 You know, it was like going into a Mad Max movie. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Like Mad Max: Return to Thunderdome. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [bang and hiss of missile launch] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [cheering in the background] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [muffled cheer and explosion in the distance] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Voice over] Like wow, I'm at- I'm at war. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Like wow. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 You know we just like ... part of- part of you is like, "This is cool." 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [machine gunfire] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Then the other part of you is like, "Damn, oh. We gotta do this." 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 But, [unintelligible] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [gunfire] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [helicopter flying] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Voice over] I remember, as we left Kuwait, I volunteered to be a gunner. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 It was a twelve hour ride and I said, "I- I will gun, I'm new here, just tell me what I'm looking for, and I'll gun all day on this convoy." 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And I said, "But the only thing is the rules of engagement." 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And they all kinda looked at me. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I- I'm like, "I need the rules of engagement. I've never been in a combat zone before." 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And they said, "Well, if it looks like the enemy, shoot it." 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I'm like, "No, no, I'm serious, now, if- I need rules of engagement. W-what constitutes the enemy, whatever." 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 "We just told you, Sergeant. If it looks like the enemy, shoot it." 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And I looked at 'em and I said, "You know, I've really never been outside the United States. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 "Everything looks like the enemy to me out here." 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [muffled shouting] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [ominous music] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Voice over] Units in Iraq are picking up people on hunches and- and suspicions. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Uh, for instance, you'll get an intelligence report that someone driving a Black Opal, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 which is a model of car over there, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 uh was involved in a- an IED attack. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So they'll just round up people with Black Opals and bring them in for interrogation. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Any- any kind of hunch that- that, uh, these units had would- they would act on and arrest people. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [banging] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 They w- They just arrested everyone. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [ominous music] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [rustling netting in the wind] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Voice over] I heard there was over 30,000 people were executed over there during Saddam's regime. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 That they're buried right there, most of them were. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And, just ... pretty horrible stories. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 About prisoner tortures. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 'Course there are ... pictures of Saddam all over the prison. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 The place was horrible. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And there were ... wild dogs running around. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Digging up ... human bodies. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Different voice over] It was a- a place inside a prison. Like the Death Chamber, that we called it. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Where it was two holes in the floor and hanging hooks, you know, so they hung people every day. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 They'd hang like 80, 100 people a day, something like that. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Where we lived at, in our barracks? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 It was two ovens in there that ... we... um, whatcha call it in- incinerator for bodies? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 It was kinda like, okay, whoa. [nervous laugh] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Where are we living at? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 You know how many lost souls or ... displaced souls are walking around here? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Different voice over] It was very, very hot. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 The heat index, uh, direct sunlight was ... 130? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And the odor was, um ... 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I'll never forget the smell of Abu Ghraib. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 The smell of sweat and trash and ... feces and urine. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Wafting through the air, it's just ... I will never forget the small of Abu Ghraib. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Just a desert bowl of misery. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Is the only way to describe it. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And that place was just so dark. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 You know and- and rooted in history. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And we were like- felt like it was a haunted place. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 You know, like, at nighttime there's certain hallways you wouldn't want to go down by yourself, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 'cause ... 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 you know you're afraid there might be a ghost. Or something. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And you knew if something was there it was- it was really pissed off. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 It's- It's just the most surreal ... place, you know, you can imagine. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 It's like a combination of Apocalypse Now meets, uh, The Shining. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Except that, you know, this is real and you're in the middle of it. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Major combat operations in Iraq have ended. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 In the Battle of Iraq, the United States and its allies have prevailed. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [cheers] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Voice over] We got- we got fuckin' at least three missiles here. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [BANG] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [metal clinking] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [explosion] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Voice over] We requested resources and, uh, assistance many times. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Almost on a daily basis. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Uh, at some points practically pleading for resources. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Uh, not only for Abu Ghraib, but for all of the other prison facilities we were trying to restore and reopen. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Somebody had this crazy idea, um, that they could restore all of the prison systems 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and get the new Iraqy guards retrained in the right way to do a, uh, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 an appropriate prison operation in 90 days or less. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Uh, there was no- there was no plan for anything. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [low ominous tone and drumming] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Voice over] We get there and ... 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 we're told, "Okay, put your weapons away. Put your trucks away and park 'em, you're not gonna need them any longer." 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Like, "What are you talking about?" 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Like there's people over there, you know, said, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 "Okay no, you're going to be prison guards. You're gonna augment the guard force inside." 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So our commander was like, "Hey, what are we doing ... ? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 "We're not ... corrections." 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 He's like, "Our guys have never been trained to do anything like that." 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So, hence, we put our weapons away. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Our tons of ammunition away. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And then we became prison guards. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 With no training whatsoever. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And we're looking at each other, "What?" 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 "We, um, the 72nd MP Company is leaving. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 "And we're going to take their place." 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 If there was ever a turn in moral, it was right there. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 That I could see. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Everything just hit rock bottom. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [dramatic drumming] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Voice over] Abu Ghraib turned out to be the most attacked US position in Iraq. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Me and the other guys shelled every day. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Shot at every day. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Every single day, all day, every day. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And there was holes in one of the walls from shrapnel that a mortar had just hit. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I think it was maybe a week before we came or a couple of days before we came. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And, um, he was telling us how the guy was praying and a mortar hit and killed a bunch of prisoners. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So, uh, it made- you definitely didn't feel safe being there. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Different voice over] The road outside the prison was the most dangerous road on the planet Earth. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 You have more fatalities on that road, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 more IED's on that road, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 more shots fired on that road than any road in the world. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 You could be walking- walking to your barracks, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [mimics sound of missile being shot] [boom] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Aw man, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 "Incoming! Incoming!" 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Oh, I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Yup. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [drumming] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [fuzzy unintelligible rapping] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 That's right. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Abu Ghetto. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Ghetto Abu! 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Shouting] Oh, you know what I'm saying! 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [BANG] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Laughing, shouting, cursing, slamming] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [ominous tone] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Voice over] In July and August, uh, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 the prison population was fairly stable and- and I would say, at the highest numbers it was still less than 1,000. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 By the end of September, it went to over 6,000. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 We had, uh, just short of 300 Military Police personnel at Abu Ghraib, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to guard thousands of prisoners. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 You had the general population prisoners, which were basically a huge mass of humanity, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 you know, thrown into a mud pit, surrounded by concertina wire. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And then you had the hard sites, which was where the intel holds were at, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 as well as the insane, or the criminal. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And then there was an even more- the most secure sections, where they had the women and the children. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Different voice over] No, the feelings that we had were, you know the spouses or sisters or cousins of 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 high value detainees that were being used as, "Okay well we have your sister, we have your wife, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 "you know, you need to turn yourself in." 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Same thing with the little children. We had, like, nine year olds in there. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I'm like, "W-w-why do I have a nine year old in a prison?" 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 It's crazy, but yeah, that's what was there. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I was chosen to work at the hardest site 'cause I'm a female. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And they needed females working 1B. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And that's mainly where they stuck me when, uh, Megan Ambuhl wasn't working. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Different voice over] In the hard site there was probably six or seven guards guarding ... 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I would say at least 1,000 detainees, if not more. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And you had all those ... If all those prisoners got to coordinating at one time ... 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 You know, the guards that were inside of the compound would've been ... 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 They would've been dead. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 It was ... 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"Y'know ma'am, most of 'em are just guilty of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 "They don't have any information." 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Well according to them, at that time it was around 75-80%. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Of the people being brought in, really didn't have any information of value, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 or any information at all about terrorism. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 The interrogators that I worked with at Abu Ghraib were all extremely frustrated by 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 the lack of intelligence they were getting, uh, during interrogations. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And most of them attributed that to the fact that they- they had prisoners who didn't have intelligence to give them. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 The interrogators who were in my unit spent all year there, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and they were telling me that they got nothing. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [lamenting music] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [cars driving] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [explosion] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Voice over] In the summer of 2003, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 the insurgency grew at a very rapid rate. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 You had the bombing of the UN Headquarters in August, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 the bombing of the Jordanian Embassy, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 the bombing of the Turkish Embassy, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and then, at the end of October, the attack on the Rashid Hotel, where most American workers 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 in the Green Zone were housed. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Pres. G.W. Bush Voice Over] Thanks to the United States of America, fifty million people 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 once lived under tyranny, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and today they live in freedom. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [clapping] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [gunfire] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Different voice over] The American Military had no idea who these people were. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 How do we fight an enemy we can't see? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 The only way to do that is to interrogate enough people that we will get usable intelligence 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that will allow us to nip the insurgency in the bud. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And I think there was a degree of panic about the lack of intelligence and the lack of knowledge 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 about the insurgency. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Rumsfeld was, uh, openly irritated about it. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Uh, and, uh, and then we come to accounts in the summer of 2003, uh, of an intelligence briefing 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that occurred at the Pentagon involving, uh, Rumsfeld, Cambone, a handful of other senior officers, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and he's described as being openly angry, pounding his fist on the table, uh, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and asking in a taunting way, uh, "Why is it that Guantanamo gets me good intel, just what I want, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 "and I don't get this out of Iraq? I've had it with this, I want you to get Miller out to Iraq and 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 "Gitmo-ize the situation and do it fast." 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [ominous music] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Miller, by all accounts, is a man who is, in a way, Rumsfeld's kind of officer, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 which is to say he doesn't care about past practice, he doesn't care about tradition necessarily. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 What he cares about is getting results. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And he established a system in Guantanamo, uh, that was based entirely around 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 getting information from these detainees. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Which is to say, using harsher interrogation techniques. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I am telling you what I believe in every inch of my body to be the truth. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And I have spent a lot of time on secure video with the people down there, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I have talked to people who've been down there and come back, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and I haven't found a single scrap of any kind of information that suggests that anyone 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 has been treated anything other than humanely, notwithstanding everything we have read and heard. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 At the time there were rumors coming out of Guantanamo that prisoners were being abused. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Uh, certainly certain of the Human Rights organizations had, uh, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 detected those kinds of rumors and written letters 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to the Administration urging the Administration not to engage in this kind of practice. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So I think, uh, word was starting to leak out 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 as to something occurruing in Guantanamo. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 General Miller, at Guantanamo, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 turned Guantanamo from a conventional US Military prison that would abide by the laws of war, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 into a kind of ad hoc behavioral laboratory for the introduction, the use of 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 extreme techniques. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Different voice over] A lot of what we know about 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 what went on in the cells during interrogations at Guantanamo, we know from FBI Officers, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 who went down and were working at Guantanamo 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and, uh, in essence observing what the Army interrogators were doing. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 We have a number of emails and reports that have been declassified by these FBI people, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 counter-terrorism officials who reported on what they saw. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 "On a couple of occasions," he writes, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 "I entered interview rooms to find a detainee chained hand and foot in a fetal position on the floor, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 "with no chair, food, or water. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 "Most times they had urinated or defecated on themselves and had been left there for 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 "18 to 24 hours or more." 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 These practices, when you see them on beurocratic documents, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 seem absolutely inoffensive, almost benign. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Um, and this report is one of many, many we have from Guantanamo, simply reporting on 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 the flesh and blood reality of what those bureaucratic sounding names mean. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [ominous music] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Different voice over] Donald Rumsfeld approved a memo in response to pressures from interrogators 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 in December of 2002 in which he approved all sorts of enhanced interrogation techniques. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 What he allows is solitary confinement, noise, light, dark, in other words, enhanced or extreme 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 sensory disorientation. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 They include stress positions, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and they include a series of techniques designed to undermine the self-confidence of the detainee, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and subsequently we learn that this includes sexual humiliation techniques, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 enforced nudity ... 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 What is most significant, um, is that in it, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, in his own name, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 approves, uh, the harshest interrogation techniques 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that have been approved in the history of our country. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 On the final copy of this so-called "Action Memo", 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 you see after Rumsfeld approves some of these practices, including forced standing, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 he says- he writes at the bottom, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 "However, I stand for 8 to 10 hours a day, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 "why is standing limited to four hours? DR." 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Don Rumsfeld. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Different voice over] This is a hand-written comment written by Secretary Rumsfeld, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 could be considered, like, a wink and a nod to the interrogators, suggesting that nevermind the 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 actual limitations contained in the memorandum, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 um, do what you have to do to get the information requested. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [ominous beat] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Different voice over] General Miller is sent to Iraq, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to help them get more actionable intelligence from these thousands of security detainees. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And General Miller, without hesitation, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 said, "Look, it's my opinion, you are treating the prisoners too well. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 "They don't know who's in charge. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 "And if you don't treat the prisoners like dogs, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 "you have effectively lost control of the interrogation." 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 At the close of General Miller's visit, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Lieutenant General Ricardo Sanchez, overall Commander of US Forces for Iraq, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 issued a memorandum for extreme techniques, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 techniques that can be seen to be in violation of US International Law. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Different voice over] I believe they thought they were interpreting the Geneva Conventions 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and applying them. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I don't think they thought, "Well the Geneva Conventions don't apply." 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And so I think what they thought they were doing 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 was following, uh, those standards and trying to 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 create interrogation methods based on them. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Different voice over] There were so many changes in policies, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 on what kind of stress positions you can use, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 for how long, and, um, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 stuff of that nature. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 That it was kind of confusing. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 It was never clear to me what was allowed and what wasn't allowed in Iraq. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 No one ever could make anything clear to me. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 When the questions were asked, it was like, "Hey, I dunno." 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Y'know, just- no one could answer questions for us. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Different voice over] All I remember is, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 the first day I worked at the hard site, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and that was- that was October 18th, I believe. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 'Cause I wrote a letter home. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And uh ... 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 All I knew was there's an interrogation going on. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And there was a prisoner nicknamed Taxicab Driver, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 who was handcuffed to a window backwards, naked, in one of the cells. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And there was an interrogator there. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I just left it alone. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I wrote back home saying I didn't agree with it. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And I went to work the next day. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 "W-what's- what's going on with the nakedness?" 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 It's like, "Why are these people naked?" 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 You know, I've never seen anything like that before in my life. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 You know, naked prisoners? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 With panties on their heads. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And in compromising positions, you know? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Locked up. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 You say, "What's- what's going on with that?" 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I didn't understand that. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I got in there and there was this ... 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 naked kid who's old enough to be my- my younger sibling ... 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 you know just- just naked. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Just hiding his shame with his hand, uh, trying to answer these questions. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And no, we ... 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 No one raised ... any objection or any concern, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 it was just ... 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 It was just business. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And our business, [unintelligible] was sometimes conducted naked. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 The nudity and the shackling of the prisoners was every day, every day occurance. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 The prisoners that came in had to be strip-searched, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 no matter what, just as a security. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Usually they came in with a sandbag on their head 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 because their handler didn't want anybody to know 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 they were there, or didn't want them to see 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 anybody else who was there. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So they stood around naked with a sandbag on their head, standing on a box, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 or holding something not knowing where they were, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 or what was going on. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [ominous music] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 We know that, uh, after General Miller's visit to Abu Ghraib Prison, and to Iraq in August/September 2003 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that, uh, the MP's were removed from the control General Scarpinski, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 who was the Commander of Military Police for Iraq, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and placed under the control of Military Intelligence. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 The MP's were then no longer part of, if you will, the kind of incarceration staff. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 They were moved to be part of the interrogation staff. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So the MP's had the job of softening up, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 creating the conditions for effective interrogation by the Military Interrogators. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Different voice over] What happened when we got to Abu Ghraib is 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Military Intelligence was placed in charge of us. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 MI and OGA, who is CIA, and all these other corporations, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 these civilian contractors that- that didn't answer to anyone like us, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 would come in and tell our MP's, "This guy needs to have a bad night." 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 "What kinda bad night?" 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 "Use your imagination." 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 "You can do this, this, this, this, stress positions, loud music, do whatever you wanna do to 'em. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 "Just make sure they don't sleep." 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 "We need that information." 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 The MI people, the specific handlers, would have me 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 give the guy, give whichever detainee lots of showers during the day, like, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 they would say, "This guy's really dirty, we want you to give him lots of showers. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 "We want you to stand in there and point and laugh at him. And, y'know, just be there while he's- 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 "so he's definitely aware that I'm standing there. While he's fully nude." 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Like, "Hey, hey, Sergeant Davis, you take these numbers down. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 "Prisoner number 111777," or something like that, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 "he needs to be up at 4 o'clock in the morning, go to bed at 4:30 and be up at, y'know up 5:15, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 "go to bed at 7 o'clock. You know, um, this person's number, blahblahblah, do this, do that. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 "You know, take the radio and put the megaphone up to it and keep him up all night long. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 "Bang the garbage cans, slam the doors, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 "know if they go to sleep, you know, throw water on 'em," like that, y'know. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 "Keep him awake. You know make sure that- make sure that life is hell tonight."