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Dialogue: 0,0:00:05.07,0:00:08.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ CJ ] Hi. I'm sorry. Sorry to be late.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:08.21,0:00:10.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Dr. Fallow ] Oh, not a problem. [ CJ ] I'm CJ Cregg.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:10.04,0:00:15.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Fallow ] Course you are. I'm Dr. John Fallow. This is Dr. Cynthia Sayles and Professor Donald Huke.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:15.89,0:00:17.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ CJ ] Huke? [Huke] Huke.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:17.82,0:00:21.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ CJ ] Okay, and you are the Organization of Cartographers for Social Equality.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:21.49,0:00:24.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Fallow ] Well, we're from the OCFSE. We have many members. [ CJ ] How many?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:24.02,0:00:26.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Fallow ] 4,300. Dues paying members.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.22,0:00:29.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ CJ ] What are the dues? [ Fallow ] $20 a year for the newsletter.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:29.37,0:00:30.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ CJ ] Let's start.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.29,0:00:32.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Josh ] Wait, I want to see this.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.41,0:00:34.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ CJ ] This is Josh Lyman
Dialogue: 0,0:00:34.91,0:00:36.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Fallow ] Indeed you are.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:36.01,0:00:38.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ CJ ] Josh, this is Dr. Fallow and his merry men.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:38.22,0:00:40.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Fallow ] Yes. [Laughter]
Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.25,0:00:41.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ CJ ] Should we begin?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:41.41,0:00:49.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Fallow ] Yes. Plain and simple, we'd like President Bartlet to aggressively support legislation that would make it mandatory
Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.21,0:00:55.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for every public school in America to teach geography using the Peters Projection map instead of the traditional Mercator.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.62,0:00:57.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Josh ] Give me 200 bucks and it's done.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.33,0:01:01.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Huke ] Really? [ CJ ] No. Why are we changing maps?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.10,0:01:05.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Sayles ] Because, CJ, the Mercator Projection has fostered European imperialist attitudes for centuries
Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.100,0:01:09.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and created an ethnic bias against the third world. \N[ CJ ] Really?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:09.83,0:01:17.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Fallow ] The German cartographer, Mercator, originally designed this map in 1659 as a navigational tool for European sailors.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:17.13,0:01:22.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Huke ] The map enlarges areas at the poles to create straight lines of constant bearing or geographic direction.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:22.34,0:01:24.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Sayles ] So it makes it easier to cross an ocean.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.42,0:01:28.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Fallow ] But it distorts the relative size of nations and continents.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.58,0:01:30.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ CJ ] Are you saying the map is wrong?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.97,0:01:34.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Fallow ] Oh dear, yes. Look at Greenland.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.33,0:01:38.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ CJ ] Okay. [ Fallow ] Now, look at Africa. \N[ CJ ] Okay.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:38.08,0:01:41.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Fallow ] The two land masses appear to be roughly the same size. [ CJ ] Yes.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:41.38,0:01:46.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Fallow ] Would it blow your mind if I told you the Africa was in reality 14 times larger?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.38,0:01:47.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ CJ ] Yes!
Dialogue: 0,0:01:48.24,0:01:57.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Sayles ] Here, we have Europe drawn considerably larger than South America when at 16.9 million square miles, South America is almost double the size of Europe's 3.8 million.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:57.42,0:02:03.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Hukes ] Alaska appears three times as large as Mexico when Mexico is larger by 0.1 million square miles.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:03.45,0:02:06.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Sayles ] Germany appears in the middle of the map when it's in the Northern most quarter of the Earth.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:06.58,0:02:11.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wait, wait. Relative size is one thing but you're telling me that Germany isn't where we think it is.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:11.49,0:02:13.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nothing's where you think it is.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:13.25,0:02:14.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where is it?
Dialogue: 0,0:02:14.78,0:02:16.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm glad you asked.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.33,0:02:21.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Peters Projection.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:21.65,0:02:23.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Sayles ] It has fidelity of axis.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.45,0:02:25.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Huke ] Fidelity of position.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:25.24,0:02:29.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Sayles ] East-West lines are parallel and intersect North-South axes at right angles.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.20,0:02:30.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What the hell is that?
Dialogue: 0,0:02:30.77,0:02:34.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's where you've been living this whole time. Should we continue?
Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.86,0:02:35.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Josh ] Uh huh.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.42,0:02:47.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Huke ] So, you're probably wondering what all this has to do with social equality.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:47.06,0:02:49.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, I'm wondering where France really is.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.86,0:02:52.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Josh ] Guys, we want to thank you very much for coming in -
Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.26,0:02:55.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ CJ ] Hang on. We're going to finish this.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.01,0:02:57.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What do maps have to do with social equality, you ask?
Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.17,0:02:58.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She asked.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:58.61,0:03:06.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Salvatore Natoli of the National Council for Social Studies argues, in our society we unconsciously equate size with importance and even power.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:10.48,0:03:12.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Josh ] I'm gonna check in on Tommy.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:12.27,0:03:13.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ CJ ] Go.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:13.62,0:03:16.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Josh ] These guys find Brigadoon on that map, you'll call me, right?
Dialogue: 0,0:03:16.02,0:03:16.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ CJ ] Probably not.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:16.92,0:03:17.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Josh ] Ok
Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.84,0:03:22.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Fallow ] When third world countries are misrepresented, they're likely to be valued less.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.100,0:03:25.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When Mercador maps exaggerate the importance of Western civilization,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:25.58,0:03:30.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when the top of the map is given to the Northern hemisphere and the bottom is given to the Southern,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.40,0:03:35.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then people will tend to adopt top and bottom attitudes.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:35.09,0:03:39.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ CJ ] But, wait - where else could you put the Northern hemisphere but on the top?
Dialogue: 0,0:03:39.89,0:03:41.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Sayles ] On the bottom.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.01,0:03:41.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ CJ ] How?
Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.80,0:03:43.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Fallow ] Like this.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.37,0:03:45.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ CJ ] Yeah, but you can't do that.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.96,0:03:46.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Fallow ] Why not?
Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.94,0:03:48.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ CJ ] Because it's freaking me out.