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Dialogue: 0,0:00:10.57,0:00:13.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I want to talk about this morning \Nis remarkable phenomenon
Dialogue: 0,0:00:14.03,0:00:16.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that people not only talk to God
Dialogue: 0,0:00:16.85,0:00:20.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but they learn to experience\NGod is talking back
Dialogue: 0,0:00:22.01,0:00:25.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Many many Americans are involved,\Nand many other people
Dialogue: 0,0:00:25.88,0:00:29.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are involved, as you may call, \Nin a renewalist spirituality -
Dialogue: 0,0:00:29.87,0:00:33.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a kind of spirituality\Nwhich they want to experience God
Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.19,0:00:36.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,intimately, personally and interactively;
Dialogue: 0,0:00:36.78,0:00:40.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they want to reach out, \Ntouch the Divine here on earth
Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.57,0:00:43.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to find out how they did that.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:44.37,0:00:45.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am anthropologist,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:46.37,0:00:49.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my job is to immerse myself in\Nthe world I come to study,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:50.17,0:00:51.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to keep observing
Dialogue: 0,0:00:52.10,0:00:55.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that at some degree,\NI got a sense of what it take to
Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.56,0:00:57.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,become a Native in that world.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.94,0:01:00.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Unlike Margret Mead &\NRev. Gregory Bateson
Dialogue: 0,0:01:00.13,0:01:02.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were pictured here in Papua New Guinea.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:02.37,0:01:03.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I did this work in America.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:04.38,0:01:07.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I spent two years \Nin the renewalist church in Chicago,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:07.98,0:01:11.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,another two years\Nin one of the Bay area.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.39,0:01:13.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I went to Sunday Morning services.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.12,0:01:16.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was a member of House Group.\NI was in the prayer's circle.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.29,0:01:17.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I hang out with people.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:17.62,0:01:18.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I prayed with people.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:18.81,0:01:22.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I really want to know how\Ntheir God became real to them.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:23.47,0:01:25.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So let me begin by asking,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.50,0:01:27.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who is the God in the church like this?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:27.83,0:01:31.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,God is God, God is big, \NGod is mighty, and holy and beyond,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:32.53,0:01:34.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but God is also a person among people,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:35.25,0:01:39.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Pastor in this kind of church \Nwant you to experience God
Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.22,0:01:42.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the way the earliest cycle of experience Jesus,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.15,0:01:43.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They walked with Jesus.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:43.45,0:01:44.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They ate with Jesus.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.64,0:01:46.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They talked with Jesus,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.02,0:01:47.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was their friend,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:47.77,0:01:50.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And these pastors will tell you that
Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.46,0:01:53.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You should put out \Na cup of coffee for God,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:53.97,0:01:55.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You should have a beer with God
Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.79,0:01:57.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Go for a walk with God, hang out.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:57.70,0:01:59.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do the kind of thing with God
Dialogue: 0,0:01:59.40,0:02:03.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you get do with anyone who \Nyou want to know as a person.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:03.23,0:02:05.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He cares about all the stuff \Nin your life.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:06.11,0:02:08.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the little stuff, where you want to go \Nin your summer vacation;
Dialogue: 0,0:02:08.95,0:02:11.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what shirt you want to wear \Ntomorrow morning;
Dialogue: 0,0:02:11.07,0:02:12.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can talk to him about that.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:14.57,0:02:18.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I wanted to know how people\Nlearn to interact with God
Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.40,0:02:20.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how they felt God \Nspeaking back.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:20.22,0:02:23.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I knew they have learnt because\Nthe newcomers came to this church,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.80,0:02:25.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they would say things like:
Dialogue: 0,0:02:25.65,0:02:27.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"God does talk to me."
Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.19,0:02:29.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then six or eight months later\Nthey would say :
Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.79,0:02:34.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I recognize God's voice the way I \Nrecognize my mum's voice on the phone . "
Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.08,0:02:37.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I thought the church teach
Dialogue: 0,0:02:38.37,0:02:40.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what you should think about your mind
Dialogue: 0,0:02:40.52,0:02:42.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is not a fortress full of your own \Nself-generated
Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.93,0:02:45.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thoughts, feelings and images;
Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.36,0:02:49.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you should think your mind is the place \Nwhere you will be going to meet the God.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.00,0:02:52.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then some of thoughts\Nyou might think that was yours,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.69,0:02:56.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They were really God's thoughts being given to you
Dialogue: 0,0:02:56.28,0:02:59.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and your job is to figure out\Nwho is God.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:59.78,0:03:04.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in fact, people did talk in the way\Nsuggested they would have
Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.28,0:03:09.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as they had experiences \Nthat weren't their own.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:09.77,0:03:12.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A woman said to me as \NI start to pray in this church:
Dialogue: 0,0:03:12.79,0:03:17.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I feels like my mind is a screen that images were projected on.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:18.08,0:03:20.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Somebody else is controlling\Nthat clicker."
Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.97,0:03:25.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And of course, not all the thoughts\Nwould be good candidate
Dialogue: 0,0:03:25.66,0:03:27.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the kind of things God would say.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:28.38,0:03:30.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People would look for thoughts \Nthat stood out,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.97,0:03:33.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that was more spontaneous \Nthan another thoughts;
Dialogue: 0,0:03:33.37,0:03:36.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thoughts were louder and\Ncaptured your attention.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:37.47,0:03:42.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one women was explaining to me how she learnt to discern God's speaking,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.82,0:03:45.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so the people were praying over her one day,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.48,0:03:49.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the phrase "go to Kansas" flashed into her mind.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:50.14,0:03:54.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,her parents was living in Kansas, so she was kind of idly thinking about visiting them.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but when this thought captured her attention,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it made her say ,you know, made her want to say, where that come from.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so you could imagine there will be risks for this style of discerning God's voice.