1 00:00:10,177 --> 00:00:12,391 what I want to talk about this morning 2 00:00:12,391 --> 00:00:15,153 is remarkable phenomenon that the people not only talk to God 3 00:00:15,153 --> 00:00:20,953 but they learn to experience God is talking back 4 00:00:21,122 --> 00:00:25,062 Many many Americans and many other people 5 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 are involved, as you may call, in a renewalist spirituality - 6 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 a kind of spirituality which they want to experience God 7 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 intimately, personally and interactive, 8 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 they want to reach out, touch the Divine here on earth 9 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I want to find out how they did that. 10 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I am anthropologist, my job is to immerse myself in 11 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the world I come to study, and to keep observing 12 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 so that at some degree, I got a sense of what it take to 13 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 become a Native in that world. 14 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Unlike Margret Mead & Rev. Gregory Bateson 15 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 were pictured here in Papua New Guinea. 16 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I did this work in America. 17 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I spent two years in the renewalist church in Chicago, 18 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 another two years in one of the Bay area. 19 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I went to Sunday Morning services. 20 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I was a member of House priaire. 21 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I was in the prayer's circle. 22 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I hang out with people. 23 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I prayed with people. 24 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I really want to know how their God became real to them. 25 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So let me begin by asking, 26 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 who is the God in the church like this? 27 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 God is God, God is big, God is mighty, and holy and beyond. 28 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 God is also a person among people, 29 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 The Pastor in this kind of church want you to experience God 30 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the way the earliest cycle of experience Jesus, 31 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 They walk with Jesus. 32 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 They eat with Jesus. 33 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 They talk with Jesus, 34 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 He was his friend, 35 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 These pastors will tell you that 36 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 You should put out a cup of coffee for God, 37 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 You should have a beer with God 38 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Go for a walk with God, hang out. 39 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Do the kind of thing with God 40 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that you get do with anyone who you want to know as a person. 41 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 He cares about all the kinds of stuff in your life. 42 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the little stuff, where you want to go in your summer vacation 43 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 what shirt you want to wear tomorrow morning. 44 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 you can talk to him about that. 45 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So I wanted to know how people learn to interact with God 46 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and how they felt God speaking back to them. 47 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I knew they can learn the newcomers came to this church, 48 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and they say things like: 49 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 "God talk to me." 50 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and six months later they would say : 51 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 "I recognize God's voice the way I recognize my mum's voice on the phone . " 52 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 But I thought the church's teach 53 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 54 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and some of thoughts you really think is yours, 55 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 They are really God's thoughts being given to you 56 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and your job is to figure out who is the God. 57 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and the way people did talk