0:00:01.165,0:00:04.613 I'm an ocean microbiologist[br]at the University of Tennessee, 0:00:04.637,0:00:07.182 and I want to tell you guys[br]about some microbes 0:00:07.206,0:00:10.400 that are so strange and wonderful 0:00:10.424,0:00:14.227 that they're challenging our assumptions[br]about what life is like on Earth. 0:00:14.251,0:00:15.680 So I have a question. 0:00:15.704,0:00:18.747 Please raise your hand[br]if you've ever thought it would be cool 0:00:18.771,0:00:21.418 to go to the bottom[br]of the ocean in a submarine? 0:00:22.372,0:00:23.522 Yes. 0:00:23.546,0:00:25.722 Most of you, because[br]the oceans are so cool. 0:00:25.746,0:00:28.449 Alright, now -- please raise your hand 0:00:28.473,0:00:32.163 if the reason you raised your hand[br]to go to the bottom of the ocean 0:00:32.187,0:00:34.478 is because it would get you[br]a little bit closer 0:00:34.502,0:00:37.195 to that exciting mud that's down there. 0:00:37.219,0:00:38.227 (Laughter) 0:00:38.251,0:00:39.541 Nobody. 0:00:39.565,0:00:41.390 I'm the only one in this room. 0:00:41.414,0:00:43.400 Well, I think about this all the time. 0:00:43.424,0:00:45.689 I spend most of my waking hours 0:00:45.713,0:00:49.499 trying to determine[br]how deep we can go into the Earth 0:00:49.523,0:00:53.276 and still find something,[br]anything, that's alive, 0:00:53.300,0:00:56.396 because we still don't know[br]the answer to this very basic question 0:00:56.420,0:00:57.619 about life on Earth. 0:00:57.643,0:01:01.243 So in the 1980s, a scientist[br]named John Parkes, in the UK, 0:01:01.267,0:01:03.171 was similarly obsessed, 0:01:03.195,0:01:05.792 and he came up with a crazy idea. 0:01:05.816,0:01:11.474 He believed that there was a vast,[br]deep, and living microbial biosphere 0:01:11.498,0:01:13.093 underneath all the world's oceans 0:01:13.117,0:01:15.735 that extends hundreds of meters[br]into the seafloor, 0:01:15.759,0:01:16.910 which is cool, 0:01:16.934,0:01:20.076 but the only problem[br]is that nobody believed him, 0:01:20.100,0:01:22.863 and the reason that nobody believed him 0:01:22.887,0:01:27.067 is that ocean sediments[br]may be the most boring place on Earth. 0:01:27.091,0:01:28.177 (Laughter) 0:01:28.201,0:01:31.236 There's no sunlight, there's no oxygen, 0:01:31.260,0:01:32.799 and perhaps worst of all, 0:01:32.823,0:01:36.998 there's no fresh food deliveries[br]for literally millions of years. 0:01:37.022,0:01:38.964 You don't have to have a PhD in biology 0:01:38.988,0:01:41.623 to know that that is a bad place[br]to go looking for life. 0:01:41.647,0:01:42.654 (Laughter) 0:01:42.678,0:01:45.895 But in 2002, [Steven D'Hondt] had[br]convinced enough people 0:01:45.909,0:01:49.517 that he was on to something [br]that he actually got an expedition 0:01:49.551,0:01:53.073 on this drillship,[br]called the JOIDES Resolution. 0:01:53.097,0:01:56.177 And he ran it along with[br]Bo Barker Jørgensen of Denmark. 0:01:56.201,0:01:57.923 And so they were finally able to get 0:01:57.947,0:02:01.312 good pristine deep subsurface samples 0:02:01.336,0:02:04.149 some really without contamination[br]from surface microbes. 0:02:04.173,0:02:09.446 This drill ship is capable of drilling[br]thousands of meters underneath the ocean, 0:02:09.470,0:02:12.966 and the mud comes up in sequential cores,[br]one after the other -- 0:02:12.990,0:02:15.660 long, long cores that look like this. 0:02:15.684,0:02:19.493 This is being carried by scientists[br]such as myself who go on these ships, 0:02:19.517,0:02:22.517 and we process the cores on the ships[br]and then we send them home 0:02:22.541,0:02:24.640 to our home laboratories[br]for further study. 0:02:24.664,0:02:26.141 So when John and his colleagues 0:02:26.165,0:02:29.720 got these first precious[br]deep-sea pristine samples, 0:02:29.744,0:02:31.625 they put them under the microscope, 0:02:31.649,0:02:35.758 and they saw images[br]that looked pretty much like this, 0:02:35.782,0:02:38.259 which is actually taken[br]from a more recent expedition 0:02:38.283,0:02:40.469 by my PhD student, Joy Buongiorno. 0:02:40.493,0:02:42.781 You can see the hazy stuff[br]in the background. 0:02:42.805,0:02:45.590 That's mud. That's deep-sea ocean mud, 0:02:45.614,0:02:49.601 and the bright green dots[br]stained with the green fluorescent dye 0:02:49.625,0:02:52.363 are real, living microbes. 0:02:53.173,0:02:56.203 Now I've got to tell you[br]something really tragic about microbes. 0:02:56.227,0:02:58.306 They all look the same under a microscope, 0:02:58.330,0:02:59.937 I mean, to a first approximation. 0:02:59.961,0:03:03.553 You can take the most fascinating[br]organisms in the world, 0:03:03.577,0:03:07.243 like a microbe that literally[br]breathes uranium, 0:03:07.267,0:03:09.679 and another one that makes rocket fuel, 0:03:09.703,0:03:11.259 mix them up with some ocean mud, 0:03:11.283,0:03:13.480 put them underneath a microscope, 0:03:13.504,0:03:15.315 and they're just little dots. 0:03:15.339,0:03:16.770 It's really annoying. 0:03:16.794,0:03:19.285 So we can't use their looks[br]to tell them apart. 0:03:19.309,0:03:21.469 We have to use DNA, like a fingerprint, 0:03:21.493,0:03:23.214 to say who is who. 0:03:23.238,0:03:25.500 And I'll teach you guys[br]how to do it right now. 0:03:25.524,0:03:29.540 So I made up some data, and I'm going[br]to show you some data that are not real. 0:03:29.564,0:03:31.747 This is to illustrate[br]what it would look like 0:03:31.771,0:03:35.151 if a bunch of species[br]were not related to each other at all. 0:03:35.722,0:03:38.940 So you can see each species 0:03:38.964,0:03:43.163 has a list of combinations[br]of A, G, C and T, 0:03:43.187,0:03:44.902 which are the four sub-units of DNA, 0:03:44.926,0:03:48.711 sort of randomly jumbled,[br]and nothing looks like anything else, 0:03:48.735,0:03:51.346 and these species[br]are totally unrelated to each other. 0:03:51.370,0:03:53.425 But this is what real DNA looks like, 0:03:53.449,0:03:55.900 from a gene that these species[br]happen to share. 0:03:56.477,0:03:59.465 Everything lines up nearly perfectly. 0:03:59.489,0:04:02.909 The chances of getting[br]so many of those vertical columns 0:04:02.933,0:04:06.322 where every species has a C[br]or every species has a T, 0:04:06.346,0:04:09.131 by random chance, are infinitesimal. 0:04:09.155,0:04:14.068 So we know that all those species[br]had to have had a common ancestor. 0:04:14.092,0:04:15.989 They're all relatives of each other. 0:04:16.013,0:04:17.861 So now I'll tell you who they are. 0:04:18.338,0:04:20.942 The top two are us and chimpanzees, 0:04:20.966,0:04:24.561 which y'all already knew were related,[br]because, I mean, obviously. 0:04:24.585,0:04:26.045 (Laughter) 0:04:26.069,0:04:28.847 But we're also related to things[br]that we don't look like, 0:04:28.871,0:04:33.394 like pine trees and Giardia,[br]which is that gastrointestinal disease 0:04:33.418,0:04:36.425 you can get if you don't filter[br]your water while you're hiking. 0:04:36.449,0:04:41.363 We're also related to bacteria[br]like E. coli and Clostridium difficile, 0:04:41.387,0:04:44.849 which is a horrible, opportunistic[br]pathogen that kills lots of people. 0:04:44.873,0:04:49.047 But there's of course good microbes too,[br]like Dehalococcoides ethenogenes, 0:04:49.071,0:04:51.939 which cleans up[br]our industrial waste for us. 0:04:51.963,0:04:54.702 So if I take these DNA sequences, 0:04:54.726,0:04:57.869 and then I use them, the similarities[br]and differences between them, 0:04:57.893,0:04:59.722 to make a family tree for all of us 0:04:59.746,0:05:01.611 so you can see who is closely related, 0:05:01.635,0:05:03.540 then this is what it looks like. 0:05:03.564,0:05:05.847 So you can see clearly, at a glance, 0:05:05.871,0:05:11.188 that things like us and Giardia[br]and bunnies and pine trees 0:05:11.212,0:05:12.988 are all, like, siblings, 0:05:13.012,0:05:16.092 and then the bacteria[br]are like our ancient cousins. 0:05:16.116,0:05:20.289 But we're kin to every[br]living thing on Earth. 0:05:20.313,0:05:22.781 So in my job, on a daily basis, 0:05:22.805,0:05:27.136 I get to produce scientific evidence[br]against existential loneliness. 0:05:27.160,0:05:30.024 So when we got these first DNA sequences, 0:05:30.048,0:05:34.248 from the first cruise, of pristine samples[br]from the deep subsurface, 0:05:34.272,0:05:36.121 we wanted to know where they were. 0:05:36.145,0:05:39.359 So the first thing that we discovered[br]is that they were not aliens, 0:05:39.383,0:05:42.968 because we could get their DNA to line up[br]with everything else on Earth. 0:05:42.992,0:05:46.190 But now check out where they go[br]on our tree of life. 0:05:47.468,0:05:50.570 The first thing you'll notice[br]is that there's a lot of them. 0:05:50.594,0:05:52.419 It wasn't just one little species 0:05:52.443,0:05:54.562 that managed to live[br]in this horrible place. 0:05:54.586,0:05:56.069 It's kind of a lot of things. 0:05:56.093,0:05:58.051 And the second thing that you'll notice, 0:05:58.075,0:06:02.895 hopefully, is that they're not[br]like anything we've ever seen before. 0:06:03.482,0:06:05.616 They are as different from each other 0:06:05.640,0:06:08.505 as they are from anything[br]that we've known before 0:06:08.529,0:06:10.490 as we are from pine trees. 0:06:10.514,0:06:13.695 So John Parkes was completely correct. 0:06:14.180,0:06:18.847 He, and we, had discovered[br]a completely new and highly diverse 0:06:18.871,0:06:20.841 microbial ecosystem on Earth 0:06:20.865,0:06:24.706 that no one even knew existed[br]before the 1980s. 0:06:25.159,0:06:26.692 So now we were on a roll. 0:06:26.716,0:06:31.428 The next step was to grow[br]these exotic species in a petri dish 0:06:31.452,0:06:33.622 so that we could[br]do real experiments on them 0:06:33.646,0:06:35.685 like microbiologists are supposed to do. 0:06:36.090,0:06:37.651 But no matter what we fed them, 0:06:37.675,0:06:39.238 they refused to grow. 0:06:39.825,0:06:43.832 Even now, 15 years[br]and many expeditions later, 0:06:43.856,0:06:49.260 no human has ever gotten a single one[br]of these exotic deep subsurface microbes 0:06:49.284,0:06:50.947 to grow in a petri dish. 0:06:50.971,0:06:52.657 And it's not for lack of trying. 0:06:53.185,0:06:55.161 That may sound disappointing, 0:06:55.185,0:06:56.908 but I actually find it exhilarating, 0:06:56.932,0:07:00.503 because it means there are so many[br]tantalizing unknowns to work on. 0:07:00.527,0:07:04.114 Like, my colleagues and I got[br]what we thought was a really great idea. 0:07:04.138,0:07:07.419 We were going to read their genes[br]like a recipe book, 0:07:07.443,0:07:10.920 find out what it was they wanted to eat[br]and put it in their petri dishes, 0:07:10.944,0:07:12.855 and then they would grow and be happy. 0:07:12.879,0:07:14.530 But when we looked at their genes, 0:07:14.554,0:07:18.622 it turns out that what they wanted to eat[br]was the food we were already feeding them. 0:07:18.646,0:07:20.256 So that was a total wash. 0:07:20.280,0:07:23.257 There was something else[br]that they wanted in their petri dishes 0:07:23.281,0:07:25.097 that we were just not giving them. 0:07:26.248,0:07:29.954 So by combining measurements[br]from many different places 0:07:29.978,0:07:31.136 around the world, 0:07:31.160,0:07:34.823 my colleagues at the University[br]of Southern California, 0:07:34.847,0:07:36.553 Doug LaRowe and Jan Amend, 0:07:36.577,0:07:41.280 were able to calculate that each one[br]of these deep-sea microbial cells 0:07:41.304,0:07:44.670 requires only one zeptowatt of power, 0:07:44.694,0:07:48.634 and before you get your phones out,[br]a zepto is 10 to the minus 21, 0:07:48.658,0:07:50.706 because I know I would want[br]to look that up. 0:07:50.730,0:07:52.261 Humans, on the other hand, 0:07:52.285,0:07:54.874 require about 100 watts of power. 0:07:54.898,0:07:58.409 So 100 watts is basically[br]if you take a pineapple 0:07:58.433,0:08:04.643 and drop it from about waist height[br]to the ground 881,632 times a day. 0:08:04.667,0:08:07.048 If you did that[br]and then linked it up to a turbine, 0:08:07.072,0:08:10.310 that would create enough power[br]to make me happen for a day. 0:08:11.177,0:08:13.970 A zeptowatt, if you put it[br]in similar terms, 0:08:13.994,0:08:18.077 is if you take just one grain of salt 0:08:18.101,0:08:21.719 and then you imagine[br]a tiny, tiny, little ball 0:08:21.743,0:08:25.359 that is one thousandth of the mass[br]of that one grain of salt 0:08:25.383,0:08:28.192 and then you drop it one nanometer, 0:08:28.216,0:08:32.398 which is a hundred times smaller[br]than the wavelength of visible light, 0:08:32.422,0:08:34.057 once per day. 0:08:34.773,0:08:37.971 That's all it takes[br]to make these microbes live. 0:08:38.717,0:08:44.082 That's less energy than we ever thought[br]would be capable of supporting life, 0:08:44.106,0:08:47.180 but somehow, amazingly, beautifully, 0:08:47.204,0:08:48.394 it's enough. 0:08:49.370,0:08:51.203 So if these deep-subsurface microbes 0:08:51.227,0:08:54.779 have a very different relationship[br]with energy than we previously thought, 0:08:54.803,0:08:56.767 then it follows that they'll have to have 0:08:56.791,0:08:58.948 a different relationship[br]with time as well, 0:08:58.972,0:09:02.067 because when you live[br]on such tiny energy gradients, 0:09:02.091,0:09:03.786 rapid growth is impossible. 0:09:03.810,0:09:06.827 If these things wanted[br]to colonize our throats and make us sick, 0:09:06.851,0:09:09.471 they would get muscled out[br]by fast-growing streptococcus 0:09:09.495,0:09:11.656 before they could even[br]initiate cell division. 0:09:11.680,0:09:14.442 So that's why we never[br]find them in our throats. 0:09:15.537,0:09:19.712 Perhaps the fact that the deep[br]subsurface is so boring 0:09:19.736,0:09:22.226 is actually an asset to these microbes. 0:09:22.250,0:09:24.338 They never get washed out by a storm. 0:09:24.362,0:09:26.527 They never get overgrown by weeds. 0:09:27.125,0:09:30.321 All they have to do is exist. 0:09:30.807,0:09:34.817 Maybe that thing that we were missing[br]in our petri dishes 0:09:34.841,0:09:36.562 was not food at all. 0:09:36.586,0:09:38.064 Maybe it wasn't a chemical. 0:09:38.088,0:09:39.914 Maybe the thing that they really want, 0:09:39.938,0:09:42.770 the nutrient that they want, is time. 0:09:44.095,0:09:47.671 But time is the one thing[br]that I'll never be able to give them. 0:09:47.695,0:09:50.909 So even if I have a cell culture[br]that I pass to my PhD students, 0:09:50.933,0:09:53.424 who pass it to their[br]PhD students, and so on, 0:09:53.448,0:09:56.016 we'd have to do that[br]for thousands of years 0:09:56.040,0:09:59.271 in order to mimic the exact conditions[br]of the deep subsurface, 0:09:59.295,0:10:01.614 all without growing any contaminants. 0:10:01.638,0:10:02.936 It's just not possible. 0:10:03.637,0:10:06.763 But maybe in a way we already have[br]grown them in our petri dishes. 0:10:06.787,0:10:09.597 Maybe they looked at all that food[br]we offered them and said, 0:10:09.621,0:10:11.483 "Thanks, I'm going to speed up so much 0:10:11.507,0:10:13.747 that I'm going to make[br]a new cell next century. 0:10:13.771,0:10:14.932 Ugh. 0:10:14.956,0:10:15.995 (Laughter) 0:10:16.019,0:10:21.128 So why is it that the rest[br]of biology moves so fast? 0:10:21.152,0:10:23.058 Why does a cell die after a day 0:10:23.082,0:10:25.593 and a human dies[br]after only a hundred years? 0:10:25.617,0:10:28.058 These seem like really[br]arbitrarily short limits 0:10:28.082,0:10:31.081 when you think about the total amount[br]of time in the universe. 0:10:31.105,0:10:33.916 But these are not arbitrary limits. 0:10:33.940,0:10:36.831 They're dictated by one simple thing, 0:10:36.855,0:10:38.914 and that thing is the Sun. 0:10:39.785,0:10:42.535 Once life figured out how to harness[br]the energy of the Sun 0:10:42.559,0:10:43.721 through photosynthesis, 0:10:43.745,0:10:46.664 we all had to speed up[br]and get on day and night cycles. 0:10:46.688,0:10:50.042 In that way, the Sun gave us[br]both a reason to be fast 0:10:50.066,0:10:51.673 and the fuel to do it. 0:10:51.697,0:10:54.556 You can view most of life on Earth[br]like a circulatory system, 0:10:54.580,0:10:56.270 and the Sun is our beating heart. 0:10:57.064,0:10:59.897 But the deep subsurface[br]is like a circulatory system 0:10:59.921,0:11:02.356 that's completely[br]disconnected from the Sun. 0:11:02.380,0:11:06.872 It's instead being driven[br]by long, slow geological rhythms. 0:11:07.933,0:11:13.321 There's currently no theoretical limit[br]on the lifespan of one single cell. 0:11:14.632,0:11:18.600 As long as there is at least[br]a tiny energy gradient to exploit, 0:11:18.624,0:11:20.808 theoretically, a single cell could live 0:11:20.832,0:11:22.974 for hundreds of thousands[br]of years or more, 0:11:22.998,0:11:25.442 simply by replacing[br]broken parts over time. 0:11:26.047,0:11:30.380 To ask a microbe that lives like that[br]to grow in our petri dishes 0:11:30.404,0:11:35.467 is to ask them to adapt to our frenetic,[br]Sun-centric, fast way of living, 0:11:35.491,0:11:37.984 and maybe they've got[br]better things to do than that. 0:11:38.008,0:11:39.317 (Laughter) 0:11:39.341,0:11:43.618 Imagine if we could figure out[br]how they managed to do this. 0:11:43.642,0:11:46.928 What if it involves some cool,[br]ultra-stable compounds 0:11:46.952,0:11:49.213 that we could use[br]to increase the shelf life 0:11:49.237,0:11:51.824 in biomedical or industrial applications? 0:11:51.848,0:11:54.404 Or maybe if we figure out[br]the mechanism that they use 0:11:54.428,0:11:57.546 to grow so extraordinarily slowly, 0:11:57.570,0:12:00.920 we could mimic it in cancer cells[br]and slow runaway cell division. 0:12:01.928,0:12:03.118 I don't know. 0:12:03.142,0:12:06.173 I mean, honestly, that is all speculation, 0:12:06.197,0:12:08.646 but the only thing I know for certain 0:12:08.670,0:12:12.743 is that there are[br]a hundred billion billion billlion 0:12:12.767,0:12:14.871 living microbial cells 0:12:14.895,0:12:17.093 underlying all the world's oceans. 0:12:17.117,0:12:21.482 That's 200 times more than the total[br]biomass of humans on this planet. 0:12:21.966,0:12:25.672 And those microbes have[br]a fundamentally different relationship 0:12:25.696,0:12:27.561 with time and energy than we do. 0:12:27.989,0:12:30.231 What seems like a day to them 0:12:30.255,0:12:32.572 might be a thousand years to us. 0:12:33.072,0:12:35.091 They don't care about the Sun, 0:12:35.115,0:12:37.326 and they don't care about growing fast, 0:12:37.350,0:12:40.247 and they probably don't give a damn[br]about my petri dishes ... 0:12:40.271,0:12:41.294 (Laughter) 0:12:41.334,0:12:45.260 but if we can continue to find[br]creative ways to study them, 0:12:45.284,0:12:51.619 then maybe we'll finally figure out[br]what life, all of life, is like on Earth. 0:12:52.031,0:12:53.182 Thank you. 0:12:53.206,0:12:54.998 (Applause)