WEBVTT 00:00:01.165 --> 00:00:04.613 I'm an ocean microbiologist at the University of Tennessee, 00:00:04.637 --> 00:00:07.182 and I want to tell you guys about some microbes 00:00:07.206 --> 00:00:10.400 that are so strange and wonderful 00:00:10.424 --> 00:00:14.227 that they're challenging our assumptions about what life is like on Earth. NOTE Paragraph 00:00:14.251 --> 00:00:15.680 So I have a question. 00:00:15.704 --> 00:00:18.747 Please raise your hand if you've ever thought it would be cool 00:00:18.771 --> 00:00:21.418 to go to the bottom of the ocean in a submarine? 00:00:22.372 --> 00:00:23.522 Yes. 00:00:23.546 --> 00:00:25.722 Most of you, because the oceans are so cool. NOTE Paragraph 00:00:25.746 --> 00:00:28.449 Alright, now -- please raise your hand 00:00:28.473 --> 00:00:32.163 if the reason you raised your hand to go to the bottom of the ocean 00:00:32.187 --> 00:00:34.478 is because it would get you a little bit closer 00:00:34.502 --> 00:00:37.195 to that exciting mud that's down there. NOTE Paragraph 00:00:37.219 --> 00:00:38.227 (Laughter) NOTE Paragraph 00:00:38.251 --> 00:00:39.541 Nobody. 00:00:39.565 --> 00:00:41.390 I'm the only one in this room. NOTE Paragraph 00:00:41.414 --> 00:00:43.400 Well, I think about this all the time. 00:00:43.424 --> 00:00:45.689 I spend most of my waking hours 00:00:45.713 --> 00:00:49.499 trying to determine how deep we can go into the Earth 00:00:49.523 --> 00:00:53.276 and still find something, anything, that's alive, 00:00:53.300 --> 00:00:56.396 because we still don't know the answer to this very basic question 00:00:56.420 --> 00:00:57.619 about life on Earth. NOTE Paragraph 00:00:57.643 --> 00:01:01.243 So in the 1980s, a scientist named John Parkes, in the UK, 00:01:01.267 --> 00:01:03.171 was similarly obsessed, 00:01:03.195 --> 00:01:05.792 and he came up with a crazy idea. 00:01:05.816 --> 00:01:11.474 He believed that there was a vast, deep, and living microbial biosphere 00:01:11.498 --> 00:01:13.093 underneath all the world's oceans 00:01:13.117 --> 00:01:15.735 that extends hundreds of meters into the seafloor, 00:01:15.759 --> 00:01:16.910 which is cool, 00:01:16.934 --> 00:01:20.076 but the only problem is that nobody believed him, 00:01:20.100 --> 00:01:22.863 and the reason that nobody believed him 00:01:22.887 --> 00:01:27.067 is that ocean sediments may be the most boring place on Earth. NOTE Paragraph 00:01:27.091 --> 00:01:28.177 (Laughter) NOTE Paragraph 00:01:28.201 --> 00:01:31.236 There's no sunlight, there's no oxygen, 00:01:31.260 --> 00:01:32.799 and perhaps worst of all, 00:01:32.823 --> 00:01:36.998 there's no fresh food deliveries for literally millions of years. 00:01:37.022 --> 00:01:38.964 You don't have to have a PhD in biology 00:01:38.988 --> 00:01:41.623 to know that that is a bad place to go looking for life. NOTE Paragraph 00:01:41.647 --> 00:01:42.654 (Laughter) NOTE Paragraph 00:01:42.678 --> 00:01:45.895 But in 2002, [Steven D'Hondt] had convinced enough people 00:01:45.909 --> 00:01:49.517 that he was on to something that he actually got an expedition 00:01:49.551 --> 00:01:53.073 on this drillship, called the JOIDES Resolution. 00:01:53.097 --> 00:01:56.177 And he ran it along with Bo Barker Jørgensen of Denmark. 00:01:56.201 --> 00:01:57.923 And so they were finally able to get 00:01:57.947 --> 00:02:01.312 good pristine deep subsurface samples 00:02:01.336 --> 00:02:04.149 some really without contamination from surface microbes. 00:02:04.173 --> 00:02:09.446 This drill ship is capable of drilling thousands of meters underneath the ocean, 00:02:09.470 --> 00:02:12.966 and the mud comes up in sequential cores, one after the other -- 00:02:12.990 --> 00:02:15.660 long, long cores that look like this. 00:02:15.684 --> 00:02:19.493 This is being carried by scientists such as myself who go on these ships, 00:02:19.517 --> 00:02:22.517 and we process the cores on the ships and then we send them home 00:02:22.541 --> 00:02:24.640 to our home laboratories for further study. NOTE Paragraph 00:02:24.664 --> 00:02:26.141 So when John and his colleagues 00:02:26.165 --> 00:02:29.720 got these first precious deep-sea pristine samples, 00:02:29.744 --> 00:02:31.625 they put them under the microscope, 00:02:31.649 --> 00:02:35.758 and they saw images that looked pretty much like this, 00:02:35.782 --> 00:02:38.259 which is actually taken from a more recent expedition 00:02:38.283 --> 00:02:40.469 by my PhD student, Joy Buongiorno. 00:02:40.493 --> 00:02:42.781 You can see the hazy stuff in the background. 00:02:42.805 --> 00:02:45.590 That's mud. That's deep-sea ocean mud, 00:02:45.614 --> 00:02:49.601 and the bright green dots stained with the green fluorescent dye 00:02:49.625 --> 00:02:52.363 are real, living microbes. NOTE Paragraph 00:02:53.173 --> 00:02:56.203 Now I've got to tell you something really tragic about microbes. 00:02:56.227 --> 00:02:58.306 They all look the same under a microscope, 00:02:58.330 --> 00:02:59.937 I mean, to a first approximation. 00:02:59.961 --> 00:03:03.553 You can take the most fascinating organisms in the world, 00:03:03.577 --> 00:03:07.243 like a microbe that literally breathes uranium, 00:03:07.267 --> 00:03:09.679 and another one that makes rocket fuel, 00:03:09.703 --> 00:03:11.259 mix them up with some ocean mud, 00:03:11.283 --> 00:03:13.480 put them underneath a microscope, 00:03:13.504 --> 00:03:15.315 and they're just little dots. 00:03:15.339 --> 00:03:16.770 It's really annoying. 00:03:16.794 --> 00:03:19.285 So we can't use their looks to tell them apart. 00:03:19.309 --> 00:03:21.469 We have to use DNA, like a fingerprint, 00:03:21.493 --> 00:03:23.214 to say who is who. NOTE Paragraph 00:03:23.238 --> 00:03:25.500 And I'll teach you guys how to do it right now. 00:03:25.524 --> 00:03:29.540 So I made up some data, and I'm going to show you some data that are not real. 00:03:29.564 --> 00:03:31.747 This is to illustrate what it would look like 00:03:31.771 --> 00:03:35.151 if a bunch of species were not related to each other at all. 00:03:35.722 --> 00:03:38.940 So you can see each species 00:03:38.964 --> 00:03:43.163 has a list of combinations of A, G, C and T, 00:03:43.187 --> 00:03:44.902 which are the four sub-units of DNA, 00:03:44.926 --> 00:03:48.711 sort of randomly jumbled, and nothing looks like anything else, 00:03:48.735 --> 00:03:51.346 and these species are totally unrelated to each other. 00:03:51.370 --> 00:03:53.425 But this is what real DNA looks like, 00:03:53.449 --> 00:03:55.900 from a gene that these species happen to share. 00:03:56.477 --> 00:03:59.465 Everything lines up nearly perfectly. 00:03:59.489 --> 00:04:02.909 The chances of getting so many of those vertical columns 00:04:02.933 --> 00:04:06.322 where every species has a C or every species has a T, 00:04:06.346 --> 00:04:09.131 by random chance, are infinitesimal. 00:04:09.155 --> 00:04:14.068 So we know that all those species had to have had a common ancestor. 00:04:14.092 --> 00:04:15.989 They're all relatives of each other. NOTE Paragraph 00:04:16.013 --> 00:04:17.861 So now I'll tell you who they are. 00:04:18.338 --> 00:04:20.942 The top two are us and chimpanzees, 00:04:20.966 --> 00:04:24.561 which y'all already knew were related, because, I mean, obviously. NOTE Paragraph 00:04:24.585 --> 00:04:26.045 (Laughter) NOTE Paragraph 00:04:26.069 --> 00:04:28.847 But we're also related to things that we don't look like, 00:04:28.871 --> 00:04:33.394 like pine trees and Giardia, which is that gastrointestinal disease 00:04:33.418 --> 00:04:36.425 you can get if you don't filter your water while you're hiking. 00:04:36.449 --> 00:04:41.363 We're also related to bacteria like E. coli and Clostridium difficile, 00:04:41.387 --> 00:04:44.849 which is a horrible, opportunistic pathogen that kills lots of people. 00:04:44.873 --> 00:04:49.047 But there's of course good microbes too, like Dehalococcoides ethenogenes, 00:04:49.071 --> 00:04:51.939 which cleans up our industrial waste for us. 00:04:51.963 --> 00:04:54.702 So if I take these DNA sequences, 00:04:54.726 --> 00:04:57.869 and then I use them, the similarities and differences between them, 00:04:57.893 --> 00:04:59.722 to make a family tree for all of us 00:04:59.746 --> 00:05:01.611 so you can see who is closely related, 00:05:01.635 --> 00:05:03.540 then this is what it looks like. 00:05:03.564 --> 00:05:05.847 So you can see clearly, at a glance, 00:05:05.871 --> 00:05:11.188 that things like us and Giardia and bunnies and pine trees 00:05:11.212 --> 00:05:12.988 are all, like, siblings, 00:05:13.012 --> 00:05:16.092 and then the bacteria are like our ancient cousins. 00:05:16.116 --> 00:05:20.289 But we're kin to every living thing on Earth. 00:05:20.313 --> 00:05:22.781 So in my job, on a daily basis, 00:05:22.805 --> 00:05:27.136 I get to produce scientific evidence against existential loneliness. NOTE Paragraph 00:05:27.160 --> 00:05:30.024 So when we got these first DNA sequences, 00:05:30.048 --> 00:05:34.248 from the first cruise, of pristine samples from the deep subsurface, 00:05:34.272 --> 00:05:36.121 we wanted to know where they were. 00:05:36.145 --> 00:05:39.359 So the first thing that we discovered is that they were not aliens, 00:05:39.383 --> 00:05:42.968 because we could get their DNA to line up with everything else on Earth. 00:05:42.992 --> 00:05:46.190 But now check out where they go on our tree of life. 00:05:47.468 --> 00:05:50.570 The first thing you'll notice is that there's a lot of them. 00:05:50.594 --> 00:05:52.419 It wasn't just one little species 00:05:52.443 --> 00:05:54.562 that managed to live in this horrible place. 00:05:54.586 --> 00:05:56.069 It's kind of a lot of things. 00:05:56.093 --> 00:05:58.051 And the second thing that you'll notice, 00:05:58.075 --> 00:06:02.895 hopefully, is that they're not like anything we've ever seen before. 00:06:03.482 --> 00:06:05.616 They are as different from each other 00:06:05.640 --> 00:06:08.505 as they are from anything that we've known before 00:06:08.529 --> 00:06:10.490 as we are from pine trees. 00:06:10.514 --> 00:06:13.695 So John Parkes was completely correct. 00:06:14.180 --> 00:06:18.847 He, and we, had discovered a completely new and highly diverse 00:06:18.871 --> 00:06:20.841 microbial ecosystem on Earth 00:06:20.865 --> 00:06:24.706 that no one even knew existed before the 1980s. NOTE Paragraph 00:06:25.159 --> 00:06:26.692 So now we were on a roll. 00:06:26.716 --> 00:06:31.428 The next step was to grow these exotic species in a petri dish 00:06:31.452 --> 00:06:33.622 so that we could do real experiments on them 00:06:33.646 --> 00:06:35.685 like microbiologists are supposed to do. 00:06:36.090 --> 00:06:37.651 But no matter what we fed them, 00:06:37.675 --> 00:06:39.238 they refused to grow. 00:06:39.825 --> 00:06:43.832 Even now, 15 years and many expeditions later, 00:06:43.856 --> 00:06:49.260 no human has ever gotten a single one of these exotic deep subsurface microbes 00:06:49.284 --> 00:06:50.947 to grow in a petri dish. 00:06:50.971 --> 00:06:52.657 And it's not for lack of trying. 00:06:53.185 --> 00:06:55.161 That may sound disappointing, 00:06:55.185 --> 00:06:56.908 but I actually find it exhilarating, 00:06:56.932 --> 00:07:00.503 because it means there are so many tantalizing unknowns to work on. 00:07:00.527 --> 00:07:04.114 Like, my colleagues and I got what we thought was a really great idea. 00:07:04.138 --> 00:07:07.419 We were going to read their genes like a recipe book, 00:07:07.443 --> 00:07:10.920 find out what it was they wanted to eat and put it in their petri dishes, 00:07:10.944 --> 00:07:12.855 and then they would grow and be happy. 00:07:12.879 --> 00:07:14.530 But when we looked at their genes, 00:07:14.554 --> 00:07:18.622 it turns out that what they wanted to eat was the food we were already feeding them. 00:07:18.646 --> 00:07:20.256 So that was a total wash. 00:07:20.280 --> 00:07:23.257 There was something else that they wanted in their petri dishes 00:07:23.281 --> 00:07:25.097 that we were just not giving them. NOTE Paragraph 00:07:26.248 --> 00:07:29.954 So by combining measurements from many different places 00:07:29.978 --> 00:07:31.136 around the world, 00:07:31.160 --> 00:07:34.823 my colleagues at the University of Southern California, 00:07:34.847 --> 00:07:36.553 Doug LaRowe and Jan Amend, 00:07:36.577 --> 00:07:41.280 were able to calculate that each one of these deep-sea microbial cells 00:07:41.304 --> 00:07:44.670 requires only one zeptowatt of power, 00:07:44.694 --> 00:07:48.634 and before you get your phones out, a zepto is 10 to the minus 21, 00:07:48.658 --> 00:07:50.706 because I know I would want to look that up. 00:07:50.730 --> 00:07:52.261 Humans, on the other hand, 00:07:52.285 --> 00:07:54.874 require about 100 watts of power. 00:07:54.898 --> 00:07:58.409 So 100 watts is basically if you take a pineapple 00:07:58.433 --> 00:08:04.643 and drop it from about waist height to the ground 881,632 times a day. 00:08:04.667 --> 00:08:07.048 If you did that and then linked it up to a turbine, 00:08:07.072 --> 00:08:10.310 that would create enough power to make me happen for a day. 00:08:11.177 --> 00:08:13.970 A zeptowatt, if you put it in similar terms, 00:08:13.994 --> 00:08:18.077 is if you take just one grain of salt 00:08:18.101 --> 00:08:21.719 and then you imagine a tiny, tiny, little ball 00:08:21.743 --> 00:08:25.359 that is one thousandth of the mass of that one grain of salt 00:08:25.383 --> 00:08:28.192 and then you drop it one nanometer, 00:08:28.216 --> 00:08:32.398 which is a hundred times smaller than the wavelength of visible light, 00:08:32.422 --> 00:08:34.057 once per day. 00:08:34.773 --> 00:08:37.971 That's all it takes to make these microbes live. 00:08:38.717 --> 00:08:44.082 That's less energy than we ever thought would be capable of supporting life, 00:08:44.106 --> 00:08:47.180 but somehow, amazingly, beautifully, 00:08:47.204 --> 00:08:48.394 it's enough. NOTE Paragraph 00:08:49.370 --> 00:08:51.203 So if these deep-subsurface microbes 00:08:51.227 --> 00:08:54.779 have a very different relationship with energy than we previously thought, 00:08:54.803 --> 00:08:56.767 then it follows that they'll have to have 00:08:56.791 --> 00:08:58.948 a different relationship with time as well, 00:08:58.972 --> 00:09:02.067 because when you live on such tiny energy gradients, 00:09:02.091 --> 00:09:03.786 rapid growth is impossible. 00:09:03.810 --> 00:09:06.827 If these things wanted to colonize our throats and make us sick, 00:09:06.851 --> 00:09:09.471 they would get muscled out by fast-growing streptococcus 00:09:09.495 --> 00:09:11.656 before they could even initiate cell division. 00:09:11.680 --> 00:09:14.442 So that's why we never find them in our throats. 00:09:15.537 --> 00:09:19.712 Perhaps the fact that the deep subsurface is so boring 00:09:19.736 --> 00:09:22.226 is actually an asset to these microbes. 00:09:22.250 --> 00:09:24.338 They never get washed out by a storm. 00:09:24.362 --> 00:09:26.527 They never get overgrown by weeds. 00:09:27.125 --> 00:09:30.321 All they have to do is exist. 00:09:30.807 --> 00:09:34.817 Maybe that thing that we were missing in our petri dishes 00:09:34.841 --> 00:09:36.562 was not food at all. 00:09:36.586 --> 00:09:38.064 Maybe it wasn't a chemical. 00:09:38.088 --> 00:09:39.914 Maybe the thing that they really want, 00:09:39.938 --> 00:09:42.770 the nutrient that they want, is time. 00:09:44.095 --> 00:09:47.671 But time is the one thing that I'll never be able to give them. 00:09:47.695 --> 00:09:50.909 So even if I have a cell culture that I pass to my PhD students, 00:09:50.933 --> 00:09:53.424 who pass it to their PhD students, and so on, 00:09:53.448 --> 00:09:56.016 we'd have to do that for thousands of years 00:09:56.040 --> 00:09:59.271 in order to mimic the exact conditions of the deep subsurface, 00:09:59.295 --> 00:10:01.614 all without growing any contaminants. 00:10:01.638 --> 00:10:02.936 It's just not possible. 00:10:03.637 --> 00:10:06.763 But maybe in a way we already have grown them in our petri dishes. 00:10:06.787 --> 00:10:09.597 Maybe they looked at all that food we offered them and said, 00:10:09.621 --> 00:10:11.483 "Thanks, I'm going to speed up so much 00:10:11.507 --> 00:10:13.747 that I'm going to make a new cell next century. 00:10:13.771 --> 00:10:14.932 Ugh. NOTE Paragraph 00:10:14.956 --> 00:10:15.995 (Laughter) NOTE Paragraph 00:10:16.019 --> 00:10:21.128 So why is it that the rest of biology moves so fast? 00:10:21.152 --> 00:10:23.058 Why does a cell die after a day 00:10:23.082 --> 00:10:25.593 and a human dies after only a hundred years? 00:10:25.617 --> 00:10:28.058 These seem like really arbitrarily short limits 00:10:28.082 --> 00:10:31.081 when you think about the total amount of time in the universe. 00:10:31.105 --> 00:10:33.916 But these are not arbitrary limits. 00:10:33.940 --> 00:10:36.831 They're dictated by one simple thing, 00:10:36.855 --> 00:10:38.914 and that thing is the Sun. 00:10:39.785 --> 00:10:42.535 Once life figured out how to harness the energy of the Sun 00:10:42.559 --> 00:10:43.721 through photosynthesis, 00:10:43.745 --> 00:10:46.664 we all had to speed up and get on day and night cycles. 00:10:46.688 --> 00:10:50.042 In that way, the Sun gave us both a reason to be fast 00:10:50.066 --> 00:10:51.673 and the fuel to do it. 00:10:51.697 --> 00:10:54.556 You can view most of life on Earth like a circulatory system, 00:10:54.580 --> 00:10:56.270 and the Sun is our beating heart. NOTE Paragraph 00:10:57.064 --> 00:10:59.897 But the deep subsurface is like a circulatory system 00:10:59.921 --> 00:11:02.356 that's completely disconnected from the Sun. 00:11:02.380 --> 00:11:06.872 It's instead being driven by long, slow geological rhythms. 00:11:07.933 --> 00:11:13.321 There's currently no theoretical limit on the lifespan of one single cell. 00:11:14.632 --> 00:11:18.600 As long as there is at least a tiny energy gradient to exploit, 00:11:18.624 --> 00:11:20.808 theoretically, a single cell could live 00:11:20.832 --> 00:11:22.974 for hundreds of thousands of years or more, 00:11:22.998 --> 00:11:25.442 simply by replacing broken parts over time. 00:11:26.047 --> 00:11:30.380 To ask a microbe that lives like that to grow in our petri dishes 00:11:30.404 --> 00:11:35.467 is to ask them to adapt to our frenetic, Sun-centric, fast way of living, 00:11:35.491 --> 00:11:37.984 and maybe they've got better things to do than that. NOTE Paragraph 00:11:38.008 --> 00:11:39.317 (Laughter) NOTE Paragraph 00:11:39.341 --> 00:11:43.618 Imagine if we could figure out how they managed to do this. 00:11:43.642 --> 00:11:46.928 What if it involves some cool, ultra-stable compounds 00:11:46.952 --> 00:11:49.213 that we could use to increase the shelf life 00:11:49.237 --> 00:11:51.824 in biomedical or industrial applications? 00:11:51.848 --> 00:11:54.404 Or maybe if we figure out the mechanism that they use 00:11:54.428 --> 00:11:57.546 to grow so extraordinarily slowly, 00:11:57.570 --> 00:12:00.920 we could mimic it in cancer cells and slow runaway cell division. 00:12:01.928 --> 00:12:03.118 I don't know. 00:12:03.142 --> 00:12:06.173 I mean, honestly, that is all speculation, 00:12:06.197 --> 00:12:08.646 but the only thing I know for certain 00:12:08.670 --> 00:12:12.743 is that there are a hundred billion billion billlion 00:12:12.767 --> 00:12:14.871 living microbial cells 00:12:14.895 --> 00:12:17.093 underlying all the world's oceans. 00:12:17.117 --> 00:12:21.482 That's 200 times more than the total biomass of humans on this planet. 00:12:21.966 --> 00:12:25.672 And those microbes have a fundamentally different relationship 00:12:25.696 --> 00:12:27.561 with time and energy than we do. 00:12:27.989 --> 00:12:30.231 What seems like a day to them 00:12:30.255 --> 00:12:32.572 might be a thousand years to us. 00:12:33.072 --> 00:12:35.091 They don't care about the Sun, 00:12:35.115 --> 00:12:37.326 and they don't care about growing fast, 00:12:37.350 --> 00:12:40.247 and they probably don't give a damn about my petri dishes ... NOTE Paragraph 00:12:40.271 --> 00:12:41.294 (Laughter) NOTE Paragraph 00:12:41.334 --> 00:12:45.260 but if we can continue to find creative ways to study them, 00:12:45.284 --> 00:12:51.619 then maybe we'll finally figure out what life, all of life, is like on Earth. NOTE Paragraph 00:12:52.031 --> 00:12:53.182 Thank you. NOTE Paragraph 00:12:53.206 --> 00:12:54.998 (Applause)