0:00:01.365,0:00:04.837 I'm an ocean microbiologist[br]at the University of Tennessee, 0:00:04.837,0:00:07.294 and I want to tell you guys[br]about some microbes 0:00:07.294,0:00:10.624 that are so strange and wonderful 0:00:10.624,0:00:14.451 that they're challenging our assumptions[br]about what life is like on Earth. 0:00:14.451,0:00:15.904 So I have a question. 0:00:15.904,0:00:18.971 Please raise your hand if you've ever[br]thought it would be cool 0:00:18.971,0:00:22.203 to go to the bottom[br]of the ocean in a submarine? 0:00:22.623,0:00:23.746 Yes. 0:00:23.746,0:00:26.233 Most of you, because[br]the oceans are so cool. 0:00:26.233,0:00:28.673 Alright, now, please raise your hand 0:00:28.673,0:00:30.697 if the reason you raised your hand 0:00:30.697,0:00:32.273 to go to the bottom[br]of the ocean in the submarine 0:00:32.273,0:00:34.414 is because it would get you[br]a little bit closer 0:00:34.414,0:00:38.001 to that exciting mud that's down there. 0:00:38.001,0:00:39.576 Nobody. 0:00:39.576,0:00:41.515 I'm the only one in this room. 0:00:41.515,0:00:43.624 Well, I think about this all the time. 0:00:43.624,0:00:45.913 I spend most of my waking hours 0:00:45.913,0:00:47.194 trying to determine 0:00:47.194,0:00:49.775 how deep we can go into the Earth 0:00:49.775,0:00:53.525 and still find something,[br]anything, that's alive, 0:00:53.525,0:00:55.977 because we still don't know[br]the answer to this very basic question 0:00:55.977,0:00:57.499 about life on Earth. 0:00:57.499,0:01:01.084 So in the 1980s, a scientist[br]named John Parks in the UK 0:01:01.084,0:01:02.822 was similarly obsessed, 0:01:02.822,0:01:06.016 and he came up with a crazy idea. 0:01:06.016,0:01:11.197 He believed that there was a vast,[br]deep, and living microbial biosphere 0:01:11.197,0:01:13.135 underneath all the world's oceans 0:01:13.135,0:01:15.627 that extends hundreds[br]of meters into the seafloor, 0:01:15.627,0:01:16.909 which is cool, 0:01:16.909,0:01:20.005 but the only problem[br]is that nobody believed him, 0:01:20.005,0:01:22.932 and the reason that nobody believed him 0:01:22.932,0:01:28.135 is that ocean sediments may be[br]the most boring place on Earth. 0:01:28.135,0:01:31.460 There's no sunlight, there's no oxygen, 0:01:31.460,0:01:33.023 and perhaps worst of all, 0:01:33.023,0:01:34.751 there's no fresh food deliveries 0:01:34.751,0:01:37.306 for literally millions of years. 0:01:37.306,0:01:39.224 You don't have to have a PhD in biology 0:01:39.224,0:01:42.595 to know that that is a bad place[br]to go looking for life. 0:01:42.595,0:01:47.406 But in 2002, John had convinced[br]enough people that he was on to something 0:01:47.406,0:01:51.441 that he actually got an expedition[br]on this drill ship 0:01:51.441,0:01:53.297 called the Joides Resolution, 0:01:53.297,0:01:56.616 and he ran it along with[br]Bo Barker Jørgensen of Denmark. 0:01:56.616,0:02:00.038 And so they were finally able to get[br]some really good pristine 0:02:00.038,0:02:01.684 deep sub-surface samples 0:02:01.684,0:02:04.373 without contamination[br]from surface microbes. 0:02:04.373,0:02:06.277 This drill ship is capable of drilling 0:02:06.277,0:02:09.432 thousands of meters underneath the ocean, 0:02:09.432,0:02:12.091 and the mud comes up in sequential cores, 0:02:12.091,0:02:15.792 one after the other, long,[br]long cores that look like this. 0:02:15.792,0:02:19.656 This is being carried by scientists[br]such as myself who go on these ships, 0:02:19.656,0:02:21.994 and we process the cores on the ships[br]and then we send them home 0:02:21.994,0:02:24.742 to our home laboratories[br]for further study. 0:02:24.742,0:02:29.722 So when John and his colleagues[br]got these first precious 0:02:29.722,0:02:31.674 deep sea pristine samples, 0:02:31.674,0:02:32.446 they put them under the microscope, 0:02:32.446,0:02:35.982 and they saw images that looked[br]pretty much like this, 0:02:35.982,0:02:38.189 which is actually taken[br]from a more recent expedition 0:02:38.189,0:02:40.693 by my PhD student Joy Buongiorno. 0:02:40.693,0:02:43.005 You can see the hazy stuff[br]in the background. 0:02:43.005,0:02:45.814 That's mud. That's deep sea ocean mud, 0:02:45.814,0:02:49.643 and the bright green dots[br]stained with the green fluorescent dye 0:02:49.643,0:02:53.373 are real, living microbes. 0:02:53.373,0:02:56.223 Now I've got to tell you all something[br]really tragic about microbes. 0:02:56.223,0:02:58.134 They all look the same under a microbe, 0:02:58.134,0:03:00.104 I mean, to a first approximation. 0:03:00.104,0:03:03.282 You can take the most fascinating[br]organisms in the world, 0:03:03.282,0:03:07.415 like a microbe that literally[br]breathes uranium, 0:03:07.415,0:03:09.760 and another one that makes rocket fuel, 0:03:09.760,0:03:11.483 mix them up with some ocean mud, 0:03:11.483,0:03:13.499 put them underneath a microscope, 0:03:13.499,0:03:15.597 and they're just little dots. 0:03:15.597,0:03:17.051 It's really annoying. 0:03:17.051,0:03:19.426 So we can't use their looks[br]to tell them apart. 0:03:19.426,0:03:21.780 We have to use DNA like a fingerprint 0:03:21.780,0:03:23.438 to say who is who. 0:03:23.438,0:03:26.382 And I'll teach you guys[br]how to do it right now. 0:03:26.382,0:03:29.536 So I made up some data, and I'm going[br]to show you some data that are not real. 0:03:29.536,0:03:31.900 This is to illustrate[br]what it would look like 0:03:31.900,0:03:35.749 if a bunch of species were not[br]related to each other at all. 0:03:35.749,0:03:38.964 So you can see each species 0:03:38.964,0:03:43.387 has a list of combinations[br]of A, G, C, and T, 0:03:43.387,0:03:45.057 which are the four sub-units of DNA, 0:03:45.057,0:03:48.802 sort of randomly jumbled[br]and nothing looks like anything else 0:03:48.802,0:03:51.345 and these species are totally[br]unrelated to each other. 0:03:51.345,0:03:54.814 But this is what real DNA looks like[br]from a gene that these species 0:03:54.814,0:03:56.677 happen to share. 0:03:56.677,0:03:59.614 Everything lines up nearly perfectly. 0:03:59.614,0:04:03.079 The chances of getting[br]so many of those vertical columns 0:04:03.079,0:04:06.019 where every species has a C[br]or every species has a T 0:04:06.019,0:04:09.321 by random chance is infinitesimal. 0:04:09.321,0:04:14.178 So we know that all those species[br]had to have had a common ancestor. 0:04:14.178,0:04:16.213 They're all relatives of each other. 0:04:16.213,0:04:18.363 So now I'll tell you who they are. 0:04:18.363,0:04:21.166 The top two are us and chimpanzees, 0:04:21.166,0:04:25.524 which y'all already knew were related,[br]because, I mean, obviously, 0:04:25.524,0:04:29.071 but we're also related to things[br]that we don't look like, 0:04:29.071,0:04:33.469 like pine trees and giardia,[br]which is that gastrointestinal disease 0:04:33.469,0:04:36.409 you can get if you don't filter[br]your water while you're hiking. 0:04:36.409,0:04:39.762 We're also related to bacteria like e.coli 0:04:39.762,0:04:43.304 and Clostridium difficile, which is[br]a horrible, opportunistic pathogen 0:04:43.304,0:04:45.073 that kills lots of people. 0:04:45.073,0:04:49.271 But there's of course good microbes here,[br]like Dehalococcoides ethenogenes, 0:04:49.271,0:04:51.954 which cleans up[br]our industrial waste for us. 0:04:51.954,0:04:54.926 So if I take these DNA sequences, 0:04:54.926,0:04:57.690 and then I use them, the similarities[br]and differences between them, 0:04:57.690,0:04:59.946 to make a family tree for all of us 0:04:59.946,0:05:01.759 so you can see who is closely related, 0:05:01.759,0:05:03.540 then this is what it looks like. 0:05:03.540,0:05:06.071 So you can see clearly at a glance 0:05:06.071,0:05:11.317 that things like us and giardia[br]and bunnies and pine trees 0:05:11.317,0:05:13.212 are all, like, siblings, 0:05:13.212,0:05:16.383 and then the bacteria are,[br]like, our ancient cousins. 0:05:16.383,0:05:20.277 But we're kin to every[br]living thing on Earth. 0:05:20.277,0:05:22.918 So in my job, on a daily basis, 0:05:22.918,0:05:27.583 I get to produce scientific evidence[br]against existential loneliness. 0:05:27.583,0:05:30.248 So when we got these first DNA sequences 0:05:30.248,0:05:34.532 from the first crews of pristine samples[br]from the deep subsurface, 0:05:34.532,0:05:36.169 we wanted to know where they were. 0:05:36.169,0:05:38.957 So the first thing that we discovered[br]is that they were not aliens, 0:05:38.957,0:05:42.874 because we could get their DNA to line up[br]with everything else on Earth. 0:05:42.874,0:05:47.113 But now check out where they go[br]on our tree of life. 0:05:47.113,0:05:50.794 The first thing you'll notice[br]is that there's a lot of them. 0:05:50.794,0:05:54.256 It wasn't just one little species that[br]managed to live in this horrible place. 0:05:54.256,0:05:55.927 It's kind of a lot of things. 0:05:55.927,0:05:57.621 And the second thing that you'll notice, 0:05:57.621,0:06:03.682 hopefully, is that they're not[br]like anything we've ever seen before. 0:06:03.682,0:06:05.745 They are as different from each other 0:06:05.745,0:06:08.494 as they are from anything[br]that we've known before 0:06:08.494,0:06:10.714 as we are from pine trees. 0:06:10.714,0:06:13.919 So John Parks was completely correct. 0:06:13.919,0:06:19.071 He, and we, had discovered[br]a completely new and highly diverse 0:06:19.071,0:06:20.969 microbial ecosystem on Earth 0:06:20.969,0:06:25.407 that no one even knew existed[br]before the 1980s. 0:06:25.407,0:06:27.010 So now we were on a roll. 0:06:27.010,0:06:30.637 The next step was to grow[br]these exotic species 0:06:30.637,0:06:33.846 in a petri dish so that we could[br]do real experiments on them 0:06:33.846,0:06:35.941 like microbiologists are supposed to do. 0:06:35.941,0:06:37.674 But no matter what we fed them, 0:06:37.674,0:06:39.322 they refused to grow. 0:06:39.322,0:06:43.891 Even now, 15 years[br]and many expeditions later, 0:06:43.891,0:06:49.422 no human has ever gotten a single one[br]of these exotic deep subsurface microbes 0:06:49.422,0:06:51.212 to grow in a petri dish. 0:06:51.212,0:06:53.385 And it's not for lack of trying. 0:06:53.385,0:06:55.139 That may sound disappointing, 0:06:55.139,0:06:57.132 but I actually find it exhilarating, 0:06:57.132,0:07:00.787 because it means there are so many[br]tantalizing unknowns to work on. 0:07:00.787,0:07:02.842 Like, for instance, my colleagues[br]and I got what we thought 0:07:02.842,0:07:04.239 was a really great idea. 0:07:04.239,0:07:07.216 We were going to read their genes[br]like a recipe book, 0:07:07.216,0:07:10.914 find out what it was they wanted to eat,[br]and put it in their petri dishes, 0:07:10.914,0:07:12.987 and then they would grow and be happy. 0:07:12.987,0:07:14.404 but then when we looked at their genes, 0:07:14.404,0:07:18.220 it turns out that what they wanted to eat[br]was the food we were already feeding them. 0:07:18.220,0:07:20.480 So that was a total wash. 0:07:20.480,0:07:23.481 There was something else[br]that they wanted in their petri dishes 0:07:23.481,0:07:26.032 that we were just not giving them. 0:07:26.032,0:07:30.178 So by combining measurements[br]from many different places 0:07:30.178,0:07:31.205 around the world, 0:07:31.205,0:07:34.807 my colleagues at the University[br]of Southern California, 0:07:34.807,0:07:36.706 Doug LaRowe and Jan Amend, 0:07:36.706,0:07:41.504 were able to calculate that each one[br]of these deep sea microbial cells 0:07:41.504,0:07:44.941 requires only one zeptowatt of power, 0:07:44.941,0:07:48.858 and before you get your phones out,[br]a zepto is 10 to the minus 21, 0:07:48.858,0:07:50.624 because I know I would want[br]to look that up. 0:07:50.624,0:07:52.271 Humans, on the other hand, 0:07:52.271,0:07:55.098 require about a hundred watts of power. 0:07:55.098,0:07:58.633 So a hundred watts is basically[br]if you take a pineapple 0:07:58.633,0:08:04.749 and drop it from about waist height[br]to the ground 881,632 times a day. 0:08:04.749,0:08:07.144 If you did that and then[br]linked it up to a turbine, 0:08:07.144,0:08:11.187 that would create enough power[br]to make me happen for a day. 0:08:11.187,0:08:14.021 A zeptowatt, if you put it[br]in similar terms, 0:08:14.021,0:08:18.253 is if you take just one grain of salt 0:08:18.253,0:08:21.714 and then you imagine[br]a tiny, tiny, little ball 0:08:21.714,0:08:25.473 that is one thousandth of the mass[br]of that one grain of salt 0:08:25.473,0:08:28.139 and then you drop it one nanometer, 0:08:28.139,0:08:32.177 which is a hundred times smaller[br]than the wavelength of visible light, 0:08:32.177,0:08:34.870 once per day. 0:08:34.870,0:08:38.528 That's all it takes to make[br]these microbes live. 0:08:38.528,0:08:44.306 That's less energy than we ever thought[br]would be capable of supporting life, 0:08:44.306,0:08:47.124 but somehow, amazingly, beautifully, 0:08:47.124,0:08:49.230 it's enough. 0:08:49.230,0:08:52.608 So if these deep subsurface microbes[br]have a very different relationship 0:08:52.608,0:08:54.312 with energy than we previously thought, 0:08:54.312,0:08:56.172 then it follows that they'll have to have 0:08:56.172,0:08:59.096 a different relationship[br]with time as well, 0:08:59.096,0:09:02.095 because when you live[br]on such tiny energy gradients, 0:09:02.095,0:09:04.010 rapid growth is impossible. 0:09:04.010,0:09:06.721 If these things ever wanted[br]to colonize our throats and make us sick, 0:09:06.721,0:09:09.183 they would get muscled out[br]by fast-growing streptococcus 0:09:09.183,0:09:11.774 before they could even[br]initiate cell division. 0:09:11.774,0:09:15.469 So that's why we never[br]find them in our throats. 0:09:15.469,0:09:19.887 Perhaps the fact that the deep[br]subsurface is so boring 0:09:19.887,0:09:22.450 is actually an asset to these microbes. 0:09:22.450,0:09:24.641 They never get washed out by a storm. 0:09:24.641,0:09:27.325 They never get overgrown by weeds. 0:09:27.325,0:09:31.063 All they have to do is exist. 0:09:31.063,0:09:33.782 Maybe that thing that we were missing 0:09:33.782,0:09:36.877 in our petri dishes was not food at all. 0:09:36.877,0:09:38.288 Maybe it wasn't a chemical. 0:09:38.288,0:09:40.203 Maybe the thing that they really want, 0:09:40.203,0:09:44.023 the nutrient that they want, is time. 0:09:44.023,0:09:47.895 But time is the one thing[br]that I'll never be able to give them. 0:09:47.895,0:09:50.978 So even if I have a cell culture[br]that I pass to my PhD students, 0:09:50.978,0:09:53.550 who pass it to their[br]PhD students, and so on, 0:09:53.550,0:09:56.065 we'd have to do that[br]for thousands of years 0:09:56.065,0:09:59.495 in order to mimic the exact conditions[br]of the deep subsurface, 0:09:59.495,0:10:01.838 all without growing any contaminants. 0:10:01.838,0:10:03.885 It's just not possible. 0:10:03.885,0:10:07.020 But maybe in a way we already have[br]grown them in our petri dishes. 0:10:07.020,0:10:09.521 Maybe they looked at all that food[br]that we offered them and said, 0:10:09.521,0:10:11.272 thanks, I'm going to speed up so much 0:10:11.272,0:10:13.628 that I'm going to make[br]a new cell next century. 0:10:13.628,0:10:14.858 Ugh. 0:10:14.858,0:10:16.000 (Laughter) 0:10:16.000,0:10:21.361 So why is it that the rest[br]of biology moves so fast? 0:10:21.361,0:10:23.100 Why does a cell die after a day 0:10:23.100,0:10:25.817 and a human dies after[br]only a hundred years? 0:10:25.817,0:10:28.226 These seem like really[br]arbitrarily short limits 0:10:28.226,0:10:31.041 when you think about the total[br]amount of time in the universe. 0:10:31.041,0:10:34.140 But these are not arbitrary limits. 0:10:34.140,0:10:37.055 They're dictated by one simple thing, 0:10:37.055,0:10:39.985 and that thing is the Sun. 0:10:39.985,0:10:41.852 Once life figured out how to harness 0:10:41.852,0:10:43.927 the energy of the Sun[br]through photosynthesis, 0:10:43.927,0:10:46.920 we all had to speed up and get[br]on day and night cycles. 0:10:46.920,0:10:50.266 In that way, the Sun gave us[br]both a reason to be fast 0:10:50.266,0:10:51.989 and the fuel to do it. 0:10:51.989,0:10:54.689 You can view most of life on Earth[br]like a circulatory system, 0:10:54.689,0:10:56.803 and the Sun is our beating heart. 0:10:56.803,0:11:00.008 But the deep subsurface[br]is like a circulatory system 0:11:00.008,0:11:02.620 that's completely[br]disconnected from the Sun. 0:11:02.620,0:11:08.141 It's instead being driven[br]by long, slow geological rhythms. 0:11:08.141,0:11:10.996 There's currently no theoretical limit 0:11:10.996,0:11:14.865 on the lifespan of one single cell. 0:11:14.865,0:11:18.410 As long as there is at least[br]a tiny energy gradient to exploit, 0:11:18.410,0:11:22.582 theoretically, a single cell could live[br]for hundreds of thousands of years 0:11:22.582,0:11:26.287 or more, simply by replacing[br]broken parts over time. 0:11:26.287,0:11:30.483 To ask a microbe that lives like that[br]to grow in our petri dishes 0:11:30.483,0:11:35.343 is to ask them to adapt to our frenetic,[br]Sun-centric, fast way of living, 0:11:35.343,0:11:38.341 and maybe they've got[br]better things to do than that. 0:11:38.341,0:11:39.575 (Laughter) 0:11:39.575,0:11:43.875 Imagine if we could figure out[br]how they managed to do this. 0:11:43.875,0:11:46.898 What if it involves some cool,[br]ultra-stable compounds 0:11:46.898,0:11:49.247 that we could use[br]to increase the shelf life 0:11:49.247,0:11:52.003 in biomedical or industrial applications? 0:11:52.003,0:11:54.257 Or maybe if we figure out[br]the mechanism that they use 0:11:54.257,0:11:57.394 to grow so extraordinarily slowly, 0:11:57.394,0:12:01.348 we could mimic it in cancer cells[br]and slow runaway cell division. 0:12:01.348,0:12:03.198 I don't know. 0:12:03.198,0:12:05.926 I mean, honestly, that is all speculation, 0:12:05.926,0:12:08.870 but the only thing I know for certain 0:12:08.870,0:12:12.967 is that there are a hundred[br]billion billion billlion 0:12:12.967,0:12:17.286 living microbial cells underlying[br]all the world's oceans. 0:12:17.286,0:12:21.968 That's 200 times more than the total[br]biomass of humans on this planet. 0:12:21.968,0:12:25.470 And those microbes have[br]a fundamentally different relationship 0:12:25.470,0:12:28.056 with time and energy than we do. 0:12:28.056,0:12:30.279 What seems like a day to them 0:12:30.279,0:12:33.226 might be a thousand years to us. 0:12:33.226,0:12:35.315 They don't care about the Sun, 0:12:35.315,0:12:37.427 and they don't care about growing fast, 0:12:37.427,0:12:41.118 and they probably don't give[br]a damn about my petri dishes, 0:12:41.118,0:12:45.416 but if we can continue to find[br]creative ways to study them, 0:12:45.416,0:12:52.231 then maybe we'll finally figure out[br]what life, all of life, is like on Earth. 0:12:52.231,0:12:53.638 Thank you. 0:12:53.638,0:12:55.105 (Applause)