1 00:00:01,887 --> 00:00:05,727 Welcome to our next participant. 2 00:00:05,727 --> 00:00:09,098 Her name is Giulia Enders. 3 00:00:09,098 --> 00:00:14,315 She studies at the Goethe University in Frankfurt. 4 00:00:14,319 --> 00:00:20,905 Applause to Giulia Enders. 5 00:00:20,905 --> 00:00:23,779 The next 10 minutes are yours! 6 00:00:23,779 --> 00:00:27,236 (Applause) 7 00:00:27,236 --> 00:00:30,527 Okay, I study medicine -- 8 00:00:30,527 --> 00:00:32,670 (Cheers) 9 00:00:32,670 --> 00:00:33,917 -- yes, exactly. 10 00:00:33,917 --> 00:00:37,771 And studying medicine really comes in handy 11 00:00:37,771 --> 00:00:40,887 when i'm having coffee and tea with my aunties. 12 00:00:40,887 --> 00:00:43,435 Because usually they ask you what you study. 13 00:00:43,435 --> 00:00:45,853 And whereas my sister needs half an hour to explain 14 00:00:45,853 --> 00:00:48,271 what Communication Design is, 15 00:00:48,271 --> 00:00:49,368 I can just say: 16 00:00:49,368 --> 00:00:51,265 medicine. 17 00:00:51,265 --> 00:00:52,350 (Laughter) 18 00:00:52,350 --> 00:00:56,426 And my aunties just look at me all happy and satisfied. 19 00:00:56,426 --> 00:00:59,554 (Laughter) (Applause) 20 00:00:59,554 --> 00:01:03,691 It is nice, but it lasts only 30 seconds, 21 00:01:03,691 --> 00:01:05,754 and then the usual question: 22 00:01:05,754 --> 00:01:08,418 What field of medicine are you going to specialize in? 23 00:01:08,418 --> 00:01:10,933 And then I must confess: 24 00:01:10,933 --> 00:01:14,957 I have been crazy about the digestive tract since my first semester. 25 00:01:14,957 --> 00:01:19,104 It began with the anus, and now I'm hooked to it! 26 00:01:19,104 --> 00:01:26,812 (Laughter) (Applause) 27 00:01:26,812 --> 00:01:29,549 Suddenly all the enthusiasm trickles away, 28 00:01:29,549 --> 00:01:32,979 usually there ensues an awkward silence. 29 00:01:32,979 --> 00:01:35,663 And the next question comes from the far corner of the room: 30 00:01:35,663 --> 00:01:39,563 And what is Communication Design good for? 31 00:01:39,563 --> 00:01:40,973 (Laughter) 32 00:01:40,973 --> 00:01:44,491 It is a pity, because the bowels are very charming. 33 00:01:44,491 --> 00:01:45,668 (Laughter) 34 00:01:45,668 --> 00:01:48,531 I'm not sure what my aunties think. 35 00:01:48,531 --> 00:01:52,521 But I suspect they think it's about tons of poop 36 00:01:52,521 --> 00:01:53,734 (Laughter) 37 00:01:53,734 --> 00:01:57,457 in all shapes and sizes 38 00:01:57,457 --> 00:02:02,951 or about other people's excrements 39 00:02:02,951 --> 00:02:08,770 (Laughter) 40 00:02:08,770 --> 00:02:14,002 or about obscure cleansing methods 41 00:02:14,002 --> 00:02:18,886 that make us walk like this out of doctor's room 42 00:02:18,886 --> 00:02:23,041 or internet videos that are so graphic 43 00:02:23,041 --> 00:02:29,410 that it's quite enough to watch other people's reaction to them. 44 00:02:29,410 --> 00:02:31,195 Even science can find reasons 45 00:02:31,195 --> 00:02:32,843 to hate the bowel. 46 00:02:32,843 --> 00:02:35,615 But these are also the very reasons why the bowel is so fascinating: 47 00:02:35,615 --> 00:02:37,451 It's 100 times larger then the area of the skin. 48 00:02:37,451 --> 00:02:39,347 Just think of hundred Giulias standing here on this stage. 49 00:02:39,347 --> 00:02:41,018 Such a thin tube, 50 00:02:41,018 --> 00:02:42,521 with so much immune system inside, 51 00:02:42,521 --> 00:02:44,395 so many hormones produced, 52 00:02:44,395 --> 00:02:48,408 100 trillion gut bacteria, 53 00:02:48,408 --> 00:02:50,409 that's the number of humans times the number of humans 54 00:02:50,409 --> 00:02:52,476 times two. 55 00:02:52,476 --> 00:02:55,910 The gut has such a completely independent nervous system 56 00:02:55,910 --> 00:02:58,186 that if I cut out a piece and tap on it 57 00:02:58,186 --> 00:03:00,831 it would just mumble a friendly reply. 58 00:03:00,831 --> 00:03:02,740 (Laughter) 59 00:03:02,740 --> 00:03:04,708 It's very complex and science is afraid of it, 60 00:03:04,708 --> 00:03:06,506 which is understandable, 61 00:03:06,506 --> 00:03:08,646 but my grandmother says that if you really like something, 62 00:03:08,646 --> 00:03:10,465 even if it is overwhelming in the beginning, 63 00:03:10,465 --> 00:03:12,130 you should approach it step by step, 64 00:03:12,130 --> 00:03:13,971 and then even if you step in a puddle, 65 00:03:13,971 --> 00:03:15,981 only one foot gets wet. 66 00:03:15,981 --> 00:03:23,656 (Laughter) (Applause) 67 00:03:23,656 --> 00:03:26,240 Let's begin. Here's the esophagus. 68 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,697 It makes powerful movements and pushes the food downward. 69 00:03:28,697 --> 00:03:30,053 It falls into the stomach, 70 00:03:30,053 --> 00:03:32,025 which cradles and rocks it a bit, 71 00:03:32,025 --> 00:03:34,523 and feeds it into the small intestine, 72 00:03:34,523 --> 00:03:36,662 where it's sort of magically kneaded, 73 00:03:36,662 --> 00:03:38,254 diminishing in bulk during the process, 74 00:03:38,254 --> 00:03:39,863 then it passes through the colon 75 00:03:39,863 --> 00:03:42,364 and comes out from the anus, it all sounds so simple. 76 00:03:42,364 --> 00:03:44,490 But if we focus on a single process -- 77 00:03:44,490 --> 00:03:46,683 -- I go for the anus -- 78 00:03:46,683 --> 00:03:51,645 then we realize it's a bit more complex than expected. 79 00:03:51,645 --> 00:03:53,521 I actually didn't pick this subject on my own 80 00:03:53,521 --> 00:03:55,115 rather my roommate asked me: 81 00:03:55,115 --> 00:03:57,310 Giulia, you study medicine: 82 00:03:57,310 --> 00:03:59,197 How does pooping work? 83 00:03:59,197 --> 00:04:02,498 (Laughter) 84 00:04:02,498 --> 00:04:06,963 I have noticed that the anus is actually very communicative. 85 00:04:06,963 --> 00:04:11,123 It's an intermediate between two worlds of consciousness. 86 00:04:11,123 --> 00:04:14,837 Here's an internal sphincter 87 00:04:14,837 --> 00:04:17,803 and here's an external anal sphincter. 88 00:04:17,803 --> 00:04:20,095 We know the external one very well. 89 00:04:20,095 --> 00:04:24,400 Let's say: A - O - A - O 90 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,164 Audience: A - O - A - O 91 00:04:26,164 --> 00:04:28,010 I meant with your anus. 92 00:04:28,010 --> 00:04:29,282 (Laughter) 93 00:04:29,282 --> 00:04:32,755 Probably many are doing it right now, we just don't see it. 94 00:04:32,755 --> 00:04:35,003 So, you see we can do it. 95 00:04:35,003 --> 00:04:37,516 If I say, now do the same -- 96 00:04:37,516 --> 00:04:44,314 (Laughter) 97 00:04:44,314 --> 00:04:48,522 If I say, now do the same with your internal sphincter -- 98 00:04:48,522 --> 00:04:50,779 -- it's more difficult. 99 00:04:50,779 --> 00:04:51,917 (Laughter) 100 00:04:51,917 --> 00:04:54,638 Perhaps somebody managed... 101 00:04:54,638 --> 00:04:57,660 But we can see there's a difference. 102 00:04:57,066 --> 00:04:59,494 It's not under our command. 103 00:04:59,494 --> 00:05:01,924 Let's take a look at the process: 104 00:05:01,924 --> 00:05:05,567 when digested food arrives at the internal sphincter, 105 00:05:05,567 --> 00:05:09,312 it opens up and lets a little morsel pass through for testing. 106 00:05:09,312 --> 00:05:11,348 (Laughter) 107 00:05:11,348 --> 00:05:16,803 And there are sensor cells in between the two sphincters. 108 00:05:16,803 --> 00:05:20,558 These cells analyze whether it is solid or gaseous 109 00:05:20,558 --> 00:05:22,267 and notify the brain. 110 00:05:22,267 --> 00:05:23,731 (Laughter) 111 00:05:23,731 --> 00:05:25,595 And then the brain realizes: 112 00:05:25,595 --> 00:05:27,674 ah, I must poop. 113 00:05:27,674 --> 00:05:29,324 (Laughter) 114 00:05:29,324 --> 00:05:33,097 And the brain does what it's good at: 115 00:05:33,097 --> 00:05:35,545 It informs us of our surroundings. 116 00:05:35,545 --> 00:05:36,889 It might say, for example: 117 00:05:36,889 --> 00:05:38,819 well, I have looked, 118 00:05:38,819 --> 00:05:43,458 (Laughter) 119 00:05:43,458 --> 00:05:46,897 we are at the Science Slam right now, 120 00:05:46,897 --> 00:05:48,841 perhaps some gas is all right, 121 00:05:48,841 --> 00:05:53,065 if you let it pass very silently, 122 00:05:53,065 --> 00:05:55,718 but something solid would not be so good. 123 00:05:55,718 --> 00:05:57,811 (Laughter) 124 00:05:57,811 --> 00:06:00,749 So they unite their efforts and push it back in 125 00:06:00,749 --> 00:06:02,923 (Laughter) 126 00:06:02,923 --> 00:06:05,403 it goes back in the queue, 127 00:06:05,403 --> 00:06:08,021 but it has to come out, eventually. 128 00:06:08,021 --> 00:06:10,999 But when we are at home, with nothing better to do, 129 00:06:10,999 --> 00:06:13,378 then -- free to go! 130 00:06:13,378 --> 00:06:26,251 (Laughter) (Applause) 131 00:06:27,021 --> 00:06:31,594 The anus is just the tip of the iceberg. 132 00:06:31,594 --> 00:06:35,772 Auntie 1: What did she say? 133 00:06:35,772 --> 00:06:41,518 Auntie 2: I think she said that the anus is just the tip of the iceberg. 134 00:06:41,518 --> 00:06:44,930 The anus is really just the tip of the iceberg. 135 00:06:44,930 --> 00:06:51,112 There are 2 cm that we perceive and that we can control 136 00:06:51,112 --> 00:06:54,122 and the whole rest -- 137 00:06:54,122 --> 00:06:57,178 -- if we want to know what happens there 138 00:06:57,178 --> 00:07:00,430 we need to look at the border area. 139 00:07:00,430 --> 00:07:06,488 So we chose something which is both unconscious and conscious. 140 00:07:06,488 --> 00:07:11,595 There are 7 basic emotions that show on the face, 141 00:07:11,595 --> 00:07:14,751 they are same for all the people worldwide, in all cultures, 142 00:07:14,751 --> 00:07:16,467 here are 3 of them, 143 00:07:16,467 --> 00:07:17,420 fear, 144 00:07:17,420 --> 00:07:18,274 joy, 145 00:07:18,274 --> 00:07:19,556 sadness. 146 00:07:19,556 --> 00:07:24,734 These basic emotions show in our faces when we feel them 147 00:07:24,734 --> 00:07:28,265 and in the first split second we cannot suppress them. 148 00:07:28,265 --> 00:07:31,123 That reminds us a bit of our internal sphincter, 149 00:07:31,123 --> 00:07:32,744 which we cannot control consciously either, 150 00:07:32,744 --> 00:07:34,303 and that's not a far fetched comparison. 151 00:07:34,303 --> 00:07:37,433 For when we were little embryological heaps of cells in the womb 152 00:07:37,433 --> 00:07:39,303 there wasn't much of a face -- 153 00:07:39,303 --> 00:07:41,727 - there was just the front opening of the intestinal tube. 154 00:07:41,727 --> 00:07:45,395 And finally it was decided: O.K., let's create a face around it, 155 00:07:45,395 --> 00:07:48,072 seems like people like it, 156 00:07:48,072 --> 00:07:51,697 so it was a part of this unconscious tube of muscle 157 00:07:51,697 --> 00:07:56,080 which is why we don't have perfect control over our facial expression. 158 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:59,739 We can control our arm any time, but not our mimics. 159 00:07:59,739 --> 00:08:05,014 That brings up the question what the bowel does with all these emotions, 160 00:08:05,014 --> 00:08:07,408 if it feels fear, 161 00:08:07,408 --> 00:08:09,521 if it can laugh 162 00:08:09,521 --> 00:08:12,050 or be sad. 163 00:08:12,050 --> 00:08:16,474 And there we are touching on the deeper layers of the iceberg 164 00:08:16,474 --> 00:08:18,921 on the subconsciousness, 165 00:08:18,921 --> 00:08:20,769 and people start arguing, 166 00:08:20,769 --> 00:08:24,442 because many people believe that the bowels have no influence on our emotions, 167 00:08:24,442 --> 00:08:26,198 that they're just a bunch of cells, 168 00:08:26,198 --> 00:08:30,150 and the brain, the DNA and the genes are the cause of our feelings. 169 00:08:30,150 --> 00:08:32,132 So, there are two basic viewpoints: 170 00:08:32,132 --> 00:08:34,560 One being that the brain decides on an emotion 171 00:08:34,560 --> 00:08:37,131 and tells all other organs what to do, 172 00:08:37,131 --> 00:08:40,610 and the other being that the gut is also involved in our emotions, 173 00:08:40,610 --> 00:08:45,785 thoughts, and perhaps even our behavior. 174 00:08:45,785 --> 00:08:48,302 So let's just take something 175 00:08:48,302 --> 00:08:51,211 which has no connection with our genes and our DNA: 176 00:08:51,211 --> 00:08:53,920 this huge gut flora. 177 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,246 So we have this whole population of bacteria inside of us, 178 00:08:56,246 --> 00:09:00,480 which can weigh up to 2 kg, which would be quite normal, 179 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:04,530 and it's a collection of things, decisions, what we have eaten 180 00:09:04,530 --> 00:09:07,597 and the environment that surrounds us, 181 00:09:07,601 --> 00:09:12,864 our very own Pokemon collection of intestinal bacteria. 182 00:09:12,864 --> 00:09:15,396 I'd like to introduce you to all of them, 183 00:09:15,396 --> 00:09:17,652 but 60% of them we don't even know at all 184 00:09:17,652 --> 00:09:20,132 since we cannot cultivate them, 185 00:09:20,132 --> 00:09:21,876 they just like it so much in our gut, 186 00:09:21,876 --> 00:09:25,641 that we can't simply observe them in a Petri dish. 187 00:09:25,641 --> 00:09:28,227 But since they do have an influence, 188 00:09:28,227 --> 00:09:32,120 scientists began to research them intensively in the last years. 189 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:33,979 Some basic things were already known before: 190 00:09:33,979 --> 00:09:36,208 they train our immune system, 191 00:09:36,208 --> 00:09:41,578 our blood type is determined by this training and influence, 192 00:09:41,578 --> 00:09:44,903 if we have really bad ones then we get bad diarrhea. 193 00:09:44,903 --> 00:09:46,576 But what about the discreet ones 194 00:09:46,576 --> 00:09:48,465 quietly doing their job all day long? 195 00:09:48,465 --> 00:09:51,402 So many different types operating in a huge variety of ways. 196 00:09:51,402 --> 00:09:53,496 What is their influence? 197 00:09:53,496 --> 00:09:56,584 And so we have another Babel, 198 00:09:56,584 --> 00:09:59,103 which is my passion, 199 00:09:59,103 --> 00:10:04,884 and about which we start asking ourselves many questions: 200 00:10:04,884 --> 00:10:07,686 If I have certain gut bacteria, 201 00:10:07,686 --> 00:10:10,704 will I get fatter than others even though I eat the same food as them? 202 00:10:10,704 --> 00:10:14,077 Can I become depressed because of some kinds of gut bacteria? 203 00:10:14,077 --> 00:10:16,219 Do some gut bugs protect me from cancer 204 00:10:16,219 --> 00:10:19,162 while others promote it? 205 00:10:19,162 --> 00:10:25,676 And most of these questions are getting answered positively. 206 00:10:25,676 --> 00:10:28,851 And this field is so interesting, 207 00:10:28,851 --> 00:10:31,595 it's constantly on my mind. 208 00:10:31,595 --> 00:10:35,201 I have been in neuroscience in Frankfurt for the last half a year, 209 00:10:35,201 --> 00:10:37,834 and we are doing experiments with endogenous proteins 210 00:10:37,834 --> 00:10:41,572 trying to find out whether they protect or harm nerve cells 211 00:10:41,572 --> 00:10:46,635 but I keep thinking, I want to do this with proteins from gut bacteria! 212 00:10:46,635 --> 00:10:49,292 They did a study with a truly amazing outcome: 213 00:10:49,292 --> 00:10:53,848 The bowels [of mice] were colonized with certain bacteria 214 00:10:53,848 --> 00:10:55,400 and then under conditions of stress, 215 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,446 when the gut gets leaky, 216 00:10:57,446 --> 00:11:00,077 they developed memory lapses of 10 to 30 days. 217 00:11:00,077 --> 00:11:02,663 With simultaneous doses of probiotics -- [no memory loss]. 218 00:11:02,663 --> 00:11:05,813 And so I wanted to know: O.K., how's that? 219 00:11:05,813 --> 00:11:08,450 And other questions which I keep carrying around. 220 00:11:08,450 --> 00:11:11,292 There is almost no research being done on this subject in Germany, 221 00:11:11,292 --> 00:11:14,134 and I really want to promote this. 222 00:11:14,134 --> 00:11:15,770 That's why I hope you got something out of this, 223 00:11:15,770 --> 00:11:17,346 for example that the anus is communicative, 224 00:11:17,346 --> 00:11:20,644 if you see a beautiful lady smiling it's all right to think of her digestive tract, 225 00:11:20,644 --> 00:11:22,066 (Laughter) 226 00:11:22,066 --> 00:11:24,610 the gut is very close to the people, with a lot of private property, 227 00:11:24,610 --> 00:11:27,383 you all have your own gut population, take good care of it, 228 00:11:27,383 --> 00:11:29,113 I hope you are more fond of it now, 229 00:11:29,113 --> 00:11:33,446 some politicians might even start fearing its competition, 230 00:11:33,446 --> 00:11:36,430 I hope the ladies are happier now, 231 00:11:36,430 --> 00:11:39,088 Thank you all for listening and thanks to my sister, 232 00:11:39,088 --> 00:11:42,384 because she made this possible with communication design! 233 00:11:42,384 --> 00:11:47,234 (Applause) 234 00:11:47,234 --> 00:11:49,850 Giulia Enders! 235 00:11:49,850 --> 00:11:53,950 (Applause) 236 00:11:53,950 --> 00:11:55,647 -- easy, isn't it? 237 00:11:55,647 --> 00:11:59,072 So let's give today's winner 238 00:11:59,072 --> 00:12:01,983 some more of our time and attention: 239 00:12:01,983 --> 00:12:04,510 a short scientific encore! 240 00:12:04,510 --> 00:12:09,083 So you have the last word! 241 00:12:09,083 --> 00:12:10,772 How nice, how unusual... 242 00:12:10,772 --> 00:12:15,555 I have something to share which I always forget, 243 00:12:15,555 --> 00:12:17,571 and actually it's quite cool, 244 00:12:17,571 --> 00:12:19,848 I have told you about those sensor cells, 245 00:12:19,848 --> 00:12:22,530 that distinguish between gaseous and solid, 246 00:12:22,530 --> 00:12:26,848 but there is a state of matter which is missing -- liquid, 247 00:12:26,848 --> 00:12:30,771 it is always a bit of an awkward topic for the audience, 248 00:12:30,771 --> 00:12:33,233 but perhaps some of you are familiar with this: 249 00:12:33,233 --> 00:12:37,527 you have diarrhea, you feel you have to fart, do you end up with your pants full? 250 00:12:37,527 --> 00:12:40,848 Your gut can't distinguish liquid from gas, so it just takes its chances! 251 00:12:40,848 --> 00:12:42,876 That was it! 252 00:12:42,876 --> 00:12:50,004 (Laughter) (Applause) 253 00:12:50,004 --> 00:12:53,957 I have forgotten it in Freiburg already, I always forget it...