0:00:23.820,0:00:25.200 TREVOR PAGLAN: The title of this piece is 0:00:25.200,0:00:27.480 A Prototype for a Nonfunctional Satellite, 0:00:28.140,0:00:30.540 and the idea here is to take technology, 0:00:30.540,0:00:33.420 take engineering, and use them[br]for the exact opposite 0:00:33.420,0:00:34.700 of what they normally do. 0:00:34.980,0:00:39.240 It's basically a giant balloon[br]that collapses into a very small cube. 0:00:39.780,0:00:41.940 The whole thing[br]weighs less than a pound. 0:00:42.733,0:00:44.400 You could put this on a rocket. 0:00:44.843,0:00:46.680 It would go up into a low-earth orbit, 0:00:46.680,0:00:50.760 and when you sent a signal[br]to it, it would inflate itself. 0:00:52.380,0:00:54.660 You'd be able to see it[br]from the ground. 0:00:55.336,0:00:58.440 It would look like a star[br]slowly moving across the sky. 0:00:58.440,0:01:01.680 It would last a few weeks,[br]and then it would accumulate 0:01:01.680,0:01:03.360 a lot of atmosphere drag[br]and burn up. 0:01:05.460,0:01:07.140 It's a very temporary thing. 0:01:08.040,0:01:10.620 Some objects are designed[br]to make patterns that shimmer, 0:01:10.620,0:01:12.180 other ones that flicker. 0:01:12.180,0:01:15.540 Other designs get bright[br]and then get dark again. 0:01:21.420,0:01:24.600 What we're doing here today[br]is inflation tests. 0:01:24.600,0:01:27.360 [ machine whirring ] 0:01:27.360,0:01:30.660 Trying to understand what[br]these objects are physically 0:01:30.660,0:01:31.980 as well as aesthetically. 0:01:32.960,0:01:34.770 - Found a hairline here. 0:01:34.770,0:01:37.200 - Yeah, there's one there. 0:01:37.200,0:01:38.520 There's another one[br]over here too. 0:01:40.080,0:01:43.800 I really do think of them[br]as post-minimalist sculptures 0:01:43.800,0:01:45.600 inspired in large part 0:01:45.600,0:01:49.560 by some very early spacecraft[br]that NASA built. 0:01:49.560,0:01:50.880 -All right, cool. 0:01:51.540,0:01:55.920 It was a very strange time[br]in the late 1950s, early 1960s 0:01:55.920,0:01:57.420 where people were putting things[br]into space, 0:01:57.420,0:02:01.330 but that language of spacecraft[br]hadn't really congealed yet. 0:02:01.680,0:02:02.580 What was Sputnik? 0:02:02.580,0:02:03.480 It was a metal ball 0:02:03.480,0:02:04.560 that went, "Beep, beep, beep,[br]beep, beep, beep." 0:02:05.260,0:02:08.220 There was really no point to it[br]other than to make it. 0:02:08.880,0:02:11.760 NASA did a project[br]called Pageos, 0:02:11.760,0:02:14.280 making big self-inflating balloons. 0:02:14.940,0:02:16.980 These were communication satellites. 0:02:17.446,0:02:20.700 You would be able to make a[br]transcontinental telephone call 0:02:20.700,0:02:22.260 by relaying a radio wave 0:02:22.260,0:02:24.300 to one of these reflective[br]satellites in the sky, 0:02:24.300,0:02:26.040 and then the wave[br]would bounce back 0:02:26.040,0:02:27.240 to somewhere else in the world. 0:02:30.660,0:02:32.400 There was something else[br]that they wanted to do 0:02:32.400,0:02:33.600 with these spacecrafts,[br]of course, 0:02:33.600,0:02:36.540 which was make better maps[br]for nuclear weapons. 0:02:39.480,0:02:41.220 A lot of artists at that time 0:02:41.220,0:02:43.380 were looking at them[br]as aesthetic objects. 0:02:45.180,0:02:47.040 Maybe they saw a world 0:02:47.040,0:02:49.500 where we didn't have to[br]kill ourselves with nuclear war, 0:02:49.500,0:02:53.160 we didn't have to use technology[br]to build a surveillance state. 0:02:53.160,0:02:55.503 Maybe there was[br]a different direction. 0:02:56.040,0:02:58.200 And that moment is something 0:02:58.200,0:03:00.793 that I'm very much trying[br]to understand. 0:03:09.960,0:03:12.180 We're standing here[br]on the southern border 0:03:12.180,0:03:14.940 of a giant military range[br]about the size of Switzerland 0:03:14.940,0:03:16.080 called the Nellis Range. 0:03:17.700,0:03:20.220 Just to the west of here[br]is the Nevada test site, 0:03:20.220,0:03:22.620 where nuclear testing[br]has been done 0:03:22.620,0:03:24.120 over many, many decades. 0:03:27.900,0:03:30.180 This is the center[br]for a lot of the drones 0:03:30.180,0:03:32.400 that are flown by the air force,[br]as well as various parts 0:03:32.400,0:03:34.440 of the military[br]and intelligence community. 0:03:36.000,0:03:38.040 The base is right by the side[br]of a highway. 0:03:39.180,0:03:41.940 I first found these drones[br]literally driving by, 0:03:41.940,0:03:43.800 looking up in the sky and going[br]"Hey, what's that?" 0:03:48.900,0:03:51.060 It's perfectly legal[br]what we're doing. 0:03:51.660,0:03:55.020 You can photograph anything[br]that you can see with your eyes. 0:03:55.020,0:03:56.340 We're standing on public land. 0:03:56.853,0:04:00.480 On one hand, the United States[br]has massive secrecy apparatuses, 0:04:00.480,0:04:01.800 but at the same time, it's also 0:04:01.800,0:04:04.380 one of the most open countries[br]in the world. 0:04:08.940,0:04:10.740 I grew up in the air force. 0:04:11.700,0:04:14.760 It made me very comfortable[br]around military culture, 0:04:15.040,0:04:18.660 that the military is a part[br]of what the United States is. 0:04:20.400,0:04:26.527 I lived in Texas; Washington, D.C.;[br]several different places overseas. 0:04:26.900,0:04:29.040 You're always being uprooted, 0:04:29.040,0:04:31.900 but on the plus side,[br]you're always seeing new things, 0:04:31.900,0:04:34.740 having a chance to see things[br]in a different way. 0:04:38.580,0:04:42.000 I've been working as an artist[br]for my whole life. 0:04:42.000,0:04:44.220 Ever since I was a little kid[br]and through high school, 0:04:44.220,0:04:47.580 I've always worked[br]on creative projects. 0:04:48.480,0:04:54.120 When I went to art school,[br]the way that art is taught 0:04:54.120,0:04:56.400 at the graduate level[br]is very theoretical 0:04:56.400,0:05:00.420 and comes pretty loosely[br]from literary theory. 0:05:00.420,0:05:02.460 What is the rhetoric of an image? 0:05:02.973,0:05:05.460 That never completely worked for me. 0:05:06.480,0:05:07.860 I wanted to go further. 0:05:09.840,0:05:13.500 Art is more than a series[br]of images that are disembodied. 0:05:13.500,0:05:15.600 Art is objects that live 0:05:15.600,0:05:20.400 in real places, economies,[br]spaces, architecture. 0:05:20.400,0:05:23.280 I was looking[br]for a lot of different ways 0:05:23.280,0:05:25.140 to try to find a language 0:05:25.140,0:05:27.780 That would allow me to think[br]about what I was doing, 0:05:27.780,0:05:29.820 and I ended up coming to geography. 0:05:33.660,0:05:35.940 Geography is about everything. 0:05:35.940,0:05:38.580 It allowed me to take ideas 0:05:38.580,0:05:41.160 from visual theory[br]and cultural studies 0:05:41.160,0:05:43.680 and incorporate them[br]into a larger landscape 0:05:43.680,0:05:46.260 that could deal[br]with political economy, 0:05:46.260,0:05:47.880 that could deal[br]with architecture, 0:05:47.880,0:05:48.960 that could deal with space. 0:05:48.960,0:05:50.520 In fact, that's what[br]the whole thing is about, 0:05:50.520,0:05:52.440 was the production of space. 0:06:05.760,0:06:08.100 A lot of works[br]that we now look at 0:06:08.100,0:06:11.160 as being classic kind of[br]art landscape photography, 0:06:11.160,0:06:14.040 people like Timothy O'Sullivan[br]Or Muybridge, 0:06:14.506,0:06:15.840 Western photographers, 0:06:16.560,0:06:18.240 you go to the National Archives 0:06:18.240,0:06:19.980 and look up[br]those original photographs, 0:06:19.980,0:06:22.380 they come in these giant reports[br]that say, you know, 0:06:22.380,0:06:24.840 "Reconnaissance survey[br]of the American West, 0:06:24.840,0:06:26.220 Department of War." 0:06:26.820,0:06:31.020 These were not really meant[br]to be landscape photographs 0:06:31.020,0:06:33.600 in the way that contemporary[br]landscape photographers work. 0:06:34.230,0:06:36.780 These photographers were hired[br]by the Department of War 0:06:36.780,0:06:38.940 to go out and document the West 0:06:38.940,0:06:42.660 for reasons of surveying[br]and cartography and mapmaking 0:06:42.660,0:06:47.160 but also for ideological reasons as well,[br]as a kind of claiming of the West. 0:06:49.140,0:06:51.660 That's interesting to me[br]in that tradition, 0:06:52.010,0:06:56.213 that relationship[br]between aesthetics and power 0:06:56.213,0:06:59.160 and technology and ideology. 0:07:03.480,0:07:05.880 Settlers, people from the Gold Rush 0:07:05.880,0:07:08.880 described this landscape[br]using vocabulary 0:07:08.880,0:07:10.260 that they would use[br]to describe Hell. 0:07:10.657,0:07:13.680 They talked about salt pillars, infernos, 0:07:13.680,0:07:19.020 this very twisted and dangerous[br]and terrifying place. 0:07:21.480,0:07:25.620 In terms of that tradition of[br]Western landscape photography, 0:07:25.620,0:07:28.680 it's something that I think[br]about being in dialogue with. 0:07:31.440,0:07:34.080 Perhaps it goes back[br]to that question of the West, 0:07:34.980,0:07:37.080 this promise[br]of a certain kind of freedom, 0:07:37.080,0:07:39.120 a horizon of possibility 0:07:39.656,0:07:44.734 but one that has never been[br]without an extreme amount of violence. 0:07:46.800,0:07:48.960 That was true[br]of the 19th century 0:07:48.960,0:07:51.600 with the colonization of[br]the West and the Indian Wars, 0:07:51.600,0:07:54.180 and it's true now, perhaps,[br]with the drone wars. 0:07:58.920,0:08:02.580 Pretty much no matter where[br]a drone in the world is flying, 0:08:02.580,0:08:05.340 there's a good chance that[br]that pilot is based in Nevada. 0:08:06.420,0:08:11.640 They're flying combat missions[br]in Pakistan, Yemen, Afghanistan, 0:08:11.640,0:08:13.800 controlled from Nevada, 0:08:13.800,0:08:16.920 so those spaces[br]are folded into one another 0:08:16.920,0:08:18.060 in a very real way. 0:08:20.100,0:08:23.520 You spend some time out there,[br]and you realize 0:08:23.520,0:08:25.920 that there's little things[br]flying around 0:08:25.920,0:08:27.240 that look like insects. 0:08:27.240,0:08:30.300 Those are different drones[br]that are flown from Nevada. 0:08:32.880,0:08:37.500 What's interesting to me about[br]photographing drones at all 0:08:37.500,0:08:41.160 is continuing this exploration[br]of the relationship 0:08:41.160,0:08:46.920 between seeing and technology[br]and aesthetics and politics. 0:08:48.000,0:08:53.640 These are remotely controlled cameras[br]that have missiles attached to them. 0:08:53.640,0:08:56.340 They're involved in assassinations[br]and that sort of thing. 0:08:56.880,0:09:00.420 Looking at the drone in the sky,[br]for me, 0:09:00.420,0:09:03.960 is perhaps a little bit[br]of an echo of Turner 0:09:03.960,0:09:04.920 looking at the train 0:09:06.900,0:09:09.060 in the famous painting[br]Rain, Steam, and Speed. 0:09:09.060,0:09:11.820 It's a very blurry,[br]very abstract image of a train, 0:09:12.496,0:09:15.540 but what was happening[br]at that moment in time 0:09:15.540,0:09:18.180 was that trains were[br]some of the first examples 0:09:18.180,0:09:19.560 of things that humans had made 0:09:19.560,0:09:22.560 that moved faster[br]than your eye could see. 0:09:22.560,0:09:24.180 And there's crazy stories, 0:09:24.180,0:09:25.560 people being hit by trains 0:09:25.560,0:09:27.420 that were traveling[br]at 30 miles an hour 0:09:27.420,0:09:30.810 because they literally[br]could not understand 0:09:30.810,0:09:32.880 what that speed meant. 0:09:34.560,0:09:38.640 I'm trying to see[br]some of the objects 0:09:38.640,0:09:41.640 that are radically transforming[br]the way 0:09:41.640,0:09:43.980 that we understand and perceive[br]the world. 0:09:46.260,0:09:49.320 In Muybridge, you find[br]this pulling apart of time, 0:09:49.320,0:09:52.073 which gets picked up[br]by someone like Edgerton, 0:09:52.073,0:09:55.440 who has famous photographs of a[br]bullet flying through an apple, 0:09:55.440,0:09:56.700 really speeding up time. 0:09:58.020,0:10:00.900 Edgerton then gets a contract 0:10:00.900,0:10:05.280 to photograph the early[br]atmospheric nuclear tests, 0:10:05.280,0:10:08.520 what a nuclear explosion[br]looks like. 0:10:09.420,0:10:13.440 To do that kind of photography,[br]the triggers for his shutters 0:10:13.440,0:10:16.680 are better than the triggers in[br]the nuclear weapons themselves, 0:10:16.680,0:10:19.440 so the trigger for the camera[br]becomes incorporated 0:10:19.440,0:10:20.760 into the nuclear weapon. 0:10:20.760,0:10:22.860 A company starts called EG&G, 0:10:22.860,0:10:25.320 which is now[br]a major defense company. 0:10:25.320,0:10:29.040 There's a very interesting[br]and very messy history 0:10:29.040,0:10:33.900 of seeing, of technology,[br]of militarism and weapons 0:10:33.900,0:10:35.030 that are conflated 0:10:35.030,0:10:37.620 in 19th-century[br]landscape photography. 0:10:38.700,0:10:42.360 This question of representation[br]and technology 0:10:42.360,0:10:43.800 and politics and ideology 0:10:43.800,0:10:47.220 has always been a part[br]of the history of art– 0:10:47.617,0:10:51.540 Leonardo da Vinci,[br]Roman mithraic mysteries. 0:10:53.040,0:10:57.180 In terms of the limits of the way[br]that we often talk about art, 0:10:57.180,0:11:02.580 we fail to recognize[br]the production of images or art objects 0:11:03.360,0:11:06.780 has everything to do with[br]what is going on in a society. 0:11:09.720,0:11:15.240 What I'm doing here is[br]collecting badges and patches 0:11:15.240,0:11:19.140 for secret military projects. 0:11:20.700,0:11:25.380 This question of how to represent that[br]which must not be represented 0:11:25.380,0:11:27.840 is one of the oldest questions in art. 0:11:28.800,0:11:32.640 Most religious art in many, many[br]different traditions 0:11:32.640,0:11:34.320 has to do[br]with exactly this question. 0:11:35.580,0:11:38.520 The image of the fish, the lamb,[br]these are images 0:11:38.520,0:11:42.120 that would be understood[br]by other Christians 0:11:42.120,0:11:43.140 during the Roman Empire 0:11:43.140,0:11:46.380 but would not mean anything to[br]somebody who was an outsider. 0:11:47.520,0:11:51.360 United States Air Force[br]aerospace medicine, AFFTC, 0:11:51.523,0:11:53.683 That means[br]Air Force Flight Test Center, 0:11:54.126,0:11:59.580 worn by the doctors[br]who service pilots at Area 51, 0:11:59.580,0:12:03.540 which is kind of the famous base[br]that doesn't exist in Nevada. 0:12:04.240,0:12:07.740 The little slogan that they have[br]is "Better care nowhere," 0:12:08.183,0:12:10.560 so there's all kinds of jokes[br]going on. 0:12:11.940,0:12:16.800 The figure of the dragon[br]usually means 0:12:16.800,0:12:19.620 a so-called signals intelligence satellite, 0:12:19.620,0:12:20.880 or an eavesdropping satellite. 0:12:20.880,0:12:24.000 It just collects cell phone calls,[br]any kind of radio transmission 0:12:24.000,0:12:25.980 emanating from the surface[br]of the earth. 0:12:25.980,0:12:27.960 It's a giant antenna. 0:12:27.960,0:12:29.340 It's the size[br]of a football field. 0:12:29.340,0:12:30.600 They look like umbrellas. 0:12:31.136,0:12:36.240 That stretched-out[br]circular antenna in these icons 0:12:36.240,0:12:38.160 translates into the image[br]of the dragon 0:12:38.160,0:12:40.260 with its wings outstretched, 0:12:40.260,0:12:44.100 and it looks like it's a star[br]joining a collection of other stars, 0:12:44.100,0:12:46.260 So it's satellite[br]that is joining a collection 0:12:46.260,0:12:47.160 of other satellites 0:12:47.160,0:12:50.520 that have some kind of[br]secret reconnaissance mission. 0:12:54.600,0:12:57.180 What are all the things[br]that are going on around us 0:12:57.180,0:13:00.720 that influence our lives,[br]our political culture, 0:13:00.720,0:13:02.040 you know, our culture at large 0:13:02.040,0:13:04.500 and yet which are invisible? 0:13:05.280,0:13:07.200 What are the things in orbit 0:13:07.200,0:13:10.080 that influence what goes on[br]on the surface of the Earth 0:13:10.080,0:13:13.920 but are also, in a very literal[br]sense, unearthly? 0:13:19.500,0:13:22.860 There's a small group of amateur astronomers[br]around the world 0:13:22.860,0:13:25.920 that every night go out[br]and look for things 0:13:25.920,0:13:28.680 that "aren't there" in the sky. 0:13:28.680,0:13:31.200 And over dozens of years,[br]they've put together 0:13:31.200,0:13:34.800 a kind of alternative catalog[br]to the night sky. 0:13:34.800,0:13:38.700 By taking observations[br]from these amateur astronomers, 0:13:38.700,0:13:41.460 you can model the orbits[br]of spacecraft 0:13:41.460,0:13:44.280 and predict exactly where[br]it will be in the night sky. 0:13:45.840,0:13:48.180 Satellites have to follow[br]Kepler's Laws 0:13:48.180,0:13:49.380 of Planetary Motion, 0:13:49.380,0:13:53.460 and so there's a real contradiction[br]in the sense that the military can make 0:13:53.460,0:13:54.720 all the secret stuff[br]that they like, 0:13:54.720,0:13:57.780 but they can't invent[br]secret laws of physics. 0:14:01.080,0:14:04.200 I want to– let's figure out[br]what time sunset is gonna be. 0:14:09.780,0:14:14.400 Sunset is gonna be at 7:50, 0:14:15.420,0:14:22.380 so I want to look at satellites[br]that are gonna begin, let's say, 0:14:23.134,0:14:25.980 between 8:45 and 11:45 tonight. 0:14:27.420,0:14:28.980 And here I got my list. 0:14:29.880,0:14:34.020 These are all the classified spacecraft[br]that will be in the sky this evening, 0:14:34.020,0:14:35.880 many of which won't be visible. 0:14:36.480,0:14:42.540 I'm just going to take a screenshot[br]of this trajectory and save it. 0:14:42.540,0:14:44.100 This basically[br]is going to give me a map 0:14:44.100,0:14:46.380 of what this spacecraft[br]is going to do. 0:14:46.380,0:14:48.420 And then I'm gonna put it[br]in a shot list, 0:14:48.420,0:14:51.000 and I'm going to say,[br]"Okay, at 9:10, 0:14:51.000,0:14:53.100 "We want to be looking[br]at this part of the sky 0:14:53.100,0:14:55.260 and for this satellite." 0:14:56.820,0:14:58.920 This is actually[br]what is gonna take the pictures. 0:14:58.920,0:15:03.540 This is a very simple, standard,[br]boring camera 0:15:03.540,0:15:05.400 with an off-the-shelf lens. 0:15:06.840,0:15:09.360 Sometimes I'll shoot[br]under cloudy skies 0:15:09.360,0:15:11.640 or hazy skies or clear skies. 0:15:11.640,0:15:15.840 I really try to incorporate[br]a wide spectrum 0:15:15.840,0:15:19.380 of atmospheric conditions into[br]the photographs that I take. 0:15:28.080,0:15:31.020 There's a very long tradition[br]of looking at the night sky. 0:15:32.400,0:15:34.440 The night sky[br]is a cultural mirror. 0:15:34.440,0:15:38.160 Going back to the Babylonians[br]or Greeks or you name it, 0:15:38.160,0:15:41.940 people have looked to the sky[br]for answers to the big questions. 0:15:42.500,0:15:44.280 Who are we?[br]Where have we come from? 0:15:44.280,0:15:45.060 Where are we going? 0:15:45.060,0:15:48.060 And that was true[br]of Babylonian astrologists 0:15:48.060,0:15:50.880 trying to figure out the future[br]based on the movement of the planets, 0:15:50.880,0:15:53.040 And that's true[br]of contemporary scientists 0:15:53.040,0:15:55.080 using things[br]like the hubble space telescope 0:15:55.080,0:15:58.740 to try to see the beginning of time[br]and the limits of the universe. 0:15:59.580,0:16:03.780 It's taking that trope[br]and twisting it around a little bit 0:16:03.780,0:16:04.920 and looking at the sky. 0:16:04.920,0:16:08.040 But instead of seeing[br]some kind of divine future, 0:16:09.300,0:16:11.160 we see military things. 0:16:11.160,0:16:13.020 we see surveillance machines. 0:16:15.480,0:16:18.240 The revolution that is happening[br]in perception right now 0:16:18.240,0:16:22.560 has to do with machines[br]seeing for other machines. 0:16:22.560,0:16:27.060 Humans are designing machines[br]and software to see for us, 0:16:27.900,0:16:28.740 and that's new. 0:16:29.650,0:16:35.520 It's something I'm just trying to[br]understand how to see, I guess.