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Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.88,0:00:03.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Helen Walters: Huang,\Nit's so good to see you.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:03.05,0:00:05.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you for joining us.\NHow's your 2020 been?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:05.39,0:00:08.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Huang Hung: My 2020\Nstarted totally normal.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:08.81,0:00:12.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In January, I went to Paris,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:12.54,0:00:15.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,did my interview\Nfor the fashion week there,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:15.87,0:00:19.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,came back to Beijing on January 22nd,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:19.55,0:00:22.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and finding things a little bit tense
Dialogue: 0,0:00:22.79,0:00:25.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because there were a lot of rumors.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:25.75,0:00:29.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Having lived through SARS,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:29.18,0:00:31.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wasn't that concerned.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:31.40,0:00:36.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And on the 23rd, I had a friend of mine\Nfrom New York come to my house
Dialogue: 0,0:00:36.64,0:00:38.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who had a flu,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:38.19,0:00:40.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we had dinner together,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.20,0:00:42.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and another friend who came,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.59,0:00:47.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who left the next day for Australia\Nfor vacation on an airplane.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.34,0:00:51.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we were not taking this\Nterribly seriously
Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.93,0:00:54.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,until there was a lockdown.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.39,0:00:56.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,HW: And we've seen that echo\Naround the world.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:56.57,0:00:59.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think still some people find it hard\Nto understand the magnitude
Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.99,0:01:02.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of some of the measures that China took.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:02.20,0:01:06.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean -- what else are we missing\Nabout China's response in all of this?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.18,0:01:07.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,HH: You know, historically,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:07.94,0:01:12.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're just two very different countries
Dialogue: 0,0:01:12.98,0:01:15.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in terms of culture and history.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:15.38,0:01:21.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, these are two completely different\Nhuman experiences for its people.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.53,0:01:23.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, for China,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.49,0:01:26.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when the lockdown happens,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:27.63,0:01:31.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people are OK.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:31.37,0:01:32.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People are OK with it,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:32.86,0:01:36.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they think that's what\Na good parent should do.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.86,0:01:39.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, if a kid gets sick,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.29,0:01:40.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you put him in the other room,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.98,0:01:45.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you lock him up and make sure\Nthat the other kids don't get sick.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:45.50,0:01:48.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they expect that\Nout of the government.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:48.41,0:01:54.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But when it is outside of China,\Nfrom America, it becomes a huge issue
Dialogue: 0,0:01:54.05,0:01:56.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the right political thing to do
Dialogue: 0,0:01:56.30,0:02:00.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and whether it's infringing\Non personal freedom.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.32,0:02:04.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the issues that you have to deal with\Nin a democratic society
Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.57,0:02:09.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are issues that one does not\Nhave to deal with in China.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:09.05,0:02:11.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have to say that\Nthere's a word in Chinese
Dialogue: 0,0:02:11.100,0:02:15.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that doesn't exist in any other language,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.23,0:02:17.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the word is called "guāi."
Dialogue: 0,0:02:17.74,0:02:20.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is what you call a kid
Dialogue: 0,0:02:20.50,0:02:24.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who listens to his or her parents.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.17,0:02:28.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I think, as a people,\Nwe are very "guāi."
Dialogue: 0,0:02:28.37,0:02:31.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have this sort of authoritarian figure
Dialogue: 0,0:02:31.50,0:02:34.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that Chinese always look up to,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.92,0:02:39.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they do expect the government\Nto actually take the actions,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.53,0:02:41.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they will deal with it.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.73,0:02:44.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,However much suffering there is,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:44.59,0:02:50.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they feel that, OK, if big brother says\Nthat this has to be done,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.56,0:02:52.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then it must be done.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.53,0:02:57.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that really defines China\Nas a separate mentality,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.70,0:03:00.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Chinese has a separate mentality,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:00.32,0:03:04.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as, say, people in Europe and America.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:04.27,0:03:06.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,HW: That sense\Nof collective responsibility
Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.32,0:03:10.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sometimes feels a little absent\Nfrom this culture.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:10.65,0:03:14.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At the same time, there are,\NI think, valid concerns
Dialogue: 0,0:03:14.22,0:03:18.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,around surveillance\Nand data privacy, things like that.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:18.83,0:03:20.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is the balance here,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.06,0:03:24.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what is the right trade-off\Nbetween surveillance and freedom?
Dialogue: 0,0:03:25.47,0:03:28.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,HH: I think in the internet age,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:28.65,0:03:33.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is somewhere between China and the US.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:33.66,0:03:40.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think when you take\Nindividual freedom
Dialogue: 0,0:03:40.06,0:03:42.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,versus collective safety,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.66,0:03:45.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there has to be a balance somewhere there.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.48,0:03:51.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,With surveillance, the head of Baidu,\NRobin Li, once said
Dialogue: 0,0:03:51.32,0:03:57.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Chinese people are quite willing\Nto give up certain individual rights
Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.25,0:03:59.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in exchange for convenience.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.42,0:04:04.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Actually, he was completely criticized\Non Chinese social media,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:04.22,0:04:05.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I think he is right.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:05.85,0:04:09.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Chinese people are willing\Nto give up certain rights.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:09.34,0:04:11.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For example, we have ...
Dialogue: 0,0:04:12.83,0:04:16.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Chinese mostly are very proud\Nof the payment system we have,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:16.35,0:04:19.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is you can go anywhere\Njust with your iPhone
Dialogue: 0,0:04:19.70,0:04:21.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and pay for everything,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:21.16,0:04:22.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and all they do is face-scan.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.92,0:04:26.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that probably\Nfreaks Americans out.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:26.55,0:04:31.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, China right now,\Nwe're still under semi-lockdown,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.21,0:04:35.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so if you go anywhere,\Nthere's an app where you scan
Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.91,0:04:39.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you input your mobile phone number,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:39.18,0:04:45.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the app will tell the guard\Nat the entrance of the mall, for example,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:45.76,0:04:48.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where you have been for the past 14 days.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:48.41,0:04:51.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, when I told that to an American,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:51.25,0:04:52.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she was horrified,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:52.78,0:04:56.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and she thought it was\Nsuch an invasion of privacy.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:56.85,0:04:59.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On the other hand,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:59.28,0:05:01.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as someone who is Chinese
Dialogue: 0,0:05:01.39,0:05:06.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and has lived in China\Nfor the past 20 years,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:06.56,0:05:09.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,although I understand\Nthat American mentality,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:09.90,0:05:15.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I still find I'm Chinese enough\Nto think, "I don't mind this,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:15.11,0:05:19.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I am better, I feel safer\Nentering the mall
Dialogue: 0,0:05:19.92,0:05:22.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because everybody has been scanned,"
Dialogue: 0,0:05:22.99,0:05:29.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whereas, I think individual freedom\Nas an abstract concept
Dialogue: 0,0:05:30.01,0:05:32.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a pandemic like this
Dialogue: 0,0:05:32.44,0:05:34.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is actually really meaningless.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:34.60,0:05:40.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I think the West really needs\Nto move a step towards the East
Dialogue: 0,0:05:40.23,0:05:43.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to think about\Nthe collective as a whole
Dialogue: 0,0:05:43.68,0:05:46.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rather than only think\Nabout oneself as an individual.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:46.82,0:05:49.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,HW: The rise of antagonistic rhetoric\Nbetween the US and China
Dialogue: 0,0:05:49.87,0:05:51.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is obviously troubling,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:51.53,0:05:54.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the thing is,\Nthe countries are interlinked
Dialogue: 0,0:05:54.10,0:05:57.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whether people understand\Nglobal supply chains or not.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.47,0:05:59.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where do you think we head next?
Dialogue: 0,0:05:59.68,0:06:04.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,HH: You know, this is the most\Nhorrifying thing that came out of this,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:04.58,0:06:10.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the kind of nationalistic sentiments\Non both sides in this pandemic.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:10.66,0:06:12.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because I'm an optimist,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:12.61,0:06:16.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think what will come out of this
Dialogue: 0,0:06:16.50,0:06:22.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that both sides will realize\Nthat this is a fight
Dialogue: 0,0:06:22.25,0:06:26.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the entire human race\Nhas to do together and not apart.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:26.29,0:06:28.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Despite the rhetoric,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:28.48,0:06:33.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the global economy has grown\Nto such an integration
Dialogue: 0,0:06:33.96,0:06:40.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that decoupling will be\Nextremely costly and painful
Dialogue: 0,0:06:40.05,0:06:42.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for both the United States and China.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:42.80,0:06:44.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,HW: It's also been interesting to me
Dialogue: 0,0:06:44.60,0:06:48.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to see the criticism that China\Nhas received quite vocally.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:48.84,0:06:53.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For instance, they've been criticized\Nfor downplaying the death toll,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:53.61,0:06:54.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,arguably,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:54.100,0:06:57.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,also for trying to demonize Dr. Li,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:57.10,0:07:03.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Wuhan doctor who first\Nraised the alarm about the coronavirus.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:03.42,0:07:05.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just saw a report\Nin "The New York Times"
Dialogue: 0,0:07:05.50,0:07:11.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that Weibo users have been posting\Nrepeatedly on the last post of Dr. Li
Dialogue: 0,0:07:11.22,0:07:14.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and using this as kind of\Na living memorial to him,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:14.47,0:07:15.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,chatting to him.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:15.65,0:07:19.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's something like\N870,000 comments and growing
Dialogue: 0,0:07:19.41,0:07:20.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on that last post.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:21.01,0:07:24.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you see a change in the media?
Dialogue: 0,0:07:24.12,0:07:27.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you see a change in the approach\Nto Chinese leadership
Dialogue: 0,0:07:27.08,0:07:31.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that actually could lead to China\Nswinging perhaps more to the center,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:31.44,0:07:35.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just as perhaps America needs\Nto swing more towards a Chinese model?
Dialogue: 0,0:07:35.77,0:07:38.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,HH: Unfortunately, not really,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:38.35,0:07:43.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I think there is a way
Dialogue: 0,0:07:43.04,0:07:47.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between authoritarian governments\Nand its people to communicate.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:47.41,0:07:50.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The night that Dr. Li died,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:50.50,0:07:54.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when it was announced that he died,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:54.84,0:07:57.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Chinese social media just blew up.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:57.20,0:08:00.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even though he was\Nunjustly treated as a whistleblower,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:00.06,0:08:02.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he still went to work in the hospital
Dialogue: 0,0:08:02.50,0:08:04.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and tried to save lives as a doctor,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:05.02,0:08:06.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then he died
Dialogue: 0,0:08:06.84,0:08:08.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because he contracted the disease.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:08.53,0:08:11.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So there was anger, frustration,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:11.14,0:08:13.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and all of that came out
Dialogue: 0,0:08:13.61,0:08:16.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in kind of commemorating a figure
Dialogue: 0,0:08:16.62,0:08:20.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they feel that\Nthe government had wronged.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:20.04,0:08:21.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The verdict
Dialogue: 0,0:08:22.12,0:08:26.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and sort of the official voice on:
Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.60,0:08:29.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Who is Dr. Li?\NIs he a good guy or a bad guy?"
Dialogue: 0,0:08:29.91,0:08:33.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,completely changed 180 degrees.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:33.34,0:08:37.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He went from a doctor who misbehaved
Dialogue: 0,0:08:37.83,0:08:40.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the hero who warned the people.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:40.37,0:08:43.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So under authoritarian government,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:43.84,0:08:48.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they still are very aware\Nof public opinion,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:48.68,0:08:50.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but, on the other hand,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:50.77,0:08:55.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when people complain\Nand when they commemorate Dr. Li,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:55.59,0:08:58.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do they really want to change the system?
Dialogue: 0,0:08:58.59,0:09:01.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And my answer is no,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:01.64,0:09:05.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they don't like\Nthat particular decision,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:05.69,0:09:08.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but they don't want to change the system.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:08.20,0:09:10.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And one of the reasons is because
Dialogue: 0,0:09:10.05,0:09:13.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they have never, ever\Nknown another system.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:13.58,0:09:16.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the system they know how to work.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:17.52,0:09:19.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,HW: What is wok-throwing, Huang?
Dialogue: 0,0:09:19.48,0:09:24.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,HH: Oh, wok-throwing is when\Nyou blame somebody else.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.55,0:09:30.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Basically, someone who is responsible\Nin a slang Chinese
Dialogue: 0,0:09:30.41,0:09:33.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is someone who carries a black wok.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:33.56,0:09:39.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You are made to be the scapegoat\Nfor something that is bad.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:39.35,0:09:43.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So basically, Trump started\Ncalling it the "Chinese virus,"
Dialogue: 0,0:09:44.01,0:09:45.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the "Wuhan virus,"
Dialogue: 0,0:09:45.29,0:09:51.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and trying to blame the entire\Ncoronavirus pandemic
Dialogue: 0,0:09:51.65,0:09:52.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the Chinese.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:52.87,0:09:57.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then the Chinese, I think,\Nthrew the wok back at the Americans.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:57.17,0:10:02.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it was a very funny joke\Non Chinese social media,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:02.36,0:10:03.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that wok-throwing.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:03.64,0:10:09.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's a wok-throwing gymnastics\Naerobics exercise video that went viral.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:09.80,0:10:10.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,HW: But tell us, Huang:
Dialogue: 0,0:10:10.99,0:10:13.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're also doing dances on TikTok, right?
Dialogue: 0,0:10:13.52,0:10:15.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,HH: Oh, of course.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:15.15,0:10:19.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm doing a lot of wok-throwing\Naerobics on TikTok.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:19.33,0:10:23.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,HW: I mean, a potential silver lining\Nof all of this is that it has laid bare
Dialogue: 0,0:10:23.14,0:10:26.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some of the inequities,\Ninequalities in the system,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:26.84,0:10:29.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some of the broken\Nstructures that we have,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:29.38,0:10:32.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and if we're smart, we can rebuild better.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:32.53,0:10:36.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,HH: Yes. I think one of\Nthe silver linings of this pandemic
Dialogue: 0,0:10:36.12,0:10:39.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that we do realize
Dialogue: 0,0:10:40.70,0:10:47.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the human race\Nhas to do something together
Dialogue: 0,0:10:47.10,0:10:53.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rather than to be distinguished\Nby our race, by the color of our skin
Dialogue: 0,0:10:53.04,0:10:55.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or by our nationality;
Dialogue: 0,0:10:55.04,0:11:00.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that this virus obviously\Nis not discriminating against anyone,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:00.78,0:11:02.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whether you are rich or poor,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:02.93,0:11:05.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,important or not important
Dialogue: 0,0:11:05.12,0:11:08.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or whatever skin color\Nor nationality you are.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:08.94,0:11:12.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it is a time to be together,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:12.46,0:11:16.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rather than to try to pull the world apart
Dialogue: 0,0:11:16.48,0:11:20.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and crawl back to our own\Nnationalistic shells.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:20.54,0:11:22.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,HW: It's a beautiful sentiment.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:22.07,0:11:24.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Huang Hung, thank you so much\Nfor joining us from Beijing.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:24.87,0:11:26.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Stay well, please.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:27.32,0:11:29.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,HH: Thank you, Helen,\Nand you stay well as well.