WEBVTT 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 JANINE ANTONI: A rope is an umbilical cord, you know. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 It's something that connects two things. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Which sort of is what Moor is about. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 It's about all these people being, you know, my life sort of connecting 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 all these people. The idea was to take all these very different materials, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but also lives, and sort of bring them 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 together through the rope making process. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 My mother's fall I put in there. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And then my friend Pat made this piece with hammocks, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 so that's what this is. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Another friends' piece, Doug, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 this is his Hi8 tape that we took apart. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And this is sort of my favorite section; 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 this is the section of the grandmothers. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 This red dress is my father's mother's Christmas dress... 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I wonder whether the viewer can in some way 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 uncover these stories through their experience of the object, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 whether these stories are somehow held in the material. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Melissa: With a lot of the material what was done is they were cut up into strips 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 or say if it was an electrical cord it was taken apart 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and all the wires inside were taken apart, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and then twisted together with other materials to create a rope. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Since I was a little girl, my mother and I would make things together, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 actually the whole family would make things together. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And I love the handmade in any form it takes. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 There's so many objects that we come into contact with 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that we've lost a connection to what they're made of, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 who made them. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So that's really important for me to sort of, in the object, on the 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 surface of the object, somehow give you a history 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 of how that object's made its way into the world. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 To make this piece what I did is I dipped myself in a tub of lard. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 The piece is called Eureka and it was inspired by the story of Archimedes. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And Archimedes was asked by the kind how much gold was in his crown and he 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 was killing himself how can he measure capacity? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Well he's in the bathtub one night 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and he realizes that his body is displacing the water in the tub. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 He gets very excited, jumps out and screams "Eureka." 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 It seems to me that Archimedes's body was the tool for the experiment, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 just as my body is the tool for making. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 But most importantly is this idea that he came to this knowledge through 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 the experience of his body. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And that's why I do these kind of extreme acts with my body. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I feel that the viewer has a body too and can empathize with what I've put 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 myself through to make the artwork. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 To me so much meaning is in how we choose to make something, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 both in art but in all objects that we deal with in our lives. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I kind of think of the work as like the viewer is coming in on the scene of a 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 crime. And I've left all these clues for them to uncover. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I did this show and the exhibition space was connected to a dairy farm. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So right away I said can you give me a tour of the barns. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And I noticed that troughs are made out of tubs. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I thought what if I take a bath, will the cow continue to drink, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 thinking that you know I've drunk from the cow my whole life 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and I could sort of create this relationship. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Well cows are very curious, they all came, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 started drinking, and it almost reversed the whole relationship. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 She looks like she's nursing from me. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And the title of the piece is 2038 which is the tag in the ear, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and the reason I chose that is I felt that that epitomized our relationship to the 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 cow, that it was almost like a hardly an animal anymore, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but a biological machine and I wanted that to contrast the kind of tenderness of 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 the image. I was really thinking about um the Virgin Mary and these images 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 we know of her. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Like the Virgin Mary is not allowed to do anything physical. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 No sex, she doesn't get to die. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 The only thing she's allowed to do is nurse. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And I was thinking about how does that image affect my ideas of motherhood 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and that sort of idyllic moment that we know from those paintings 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but also from Pampers ads of mother and child.