0:00:02.175,0:00:05.575 Tamer bey first of all I would like to thank you for giving us your precious time. 0:00:05.575,0:00:08.015 -Happy Eid Mubarak! (Turkish holiday)[br]-Happy Eid Mubarak! 0:00:08.640,0:00:15.240 On behalf of myself and Kivanc Tatlitug North America group, we are grateful. 0:00:15.540,0:00:19.180 First, I would like to give you are brief explanation about the administrators and the group overall. 0:00:19.180,0:00:22.480 We are a fan based group with approximately sixty-five thousand members, 0:00:22.800,0:00:29.720 and we have ten administrators overseeing different responsibilities to run the group. I am one of them, and I am responsible for translations. 0:00:29.900,0:00:36.035 We are a not-for-profit group, we do not seek any income. 0:00:36.040,0:00:39.630 Our goal is to support actors like you who pursue acting with passion. 0:00:39.630,0:00:43.220 We want to accurately deliver your message to our fans in North America. 0:00:43.220,0:00:44.720 Our work consists around that basically. 0:00:45.315,0:00:46.905 Now.... 0:00:47.220,0:00:51.040 the North American audience knows you from your role in Cesur ve Güzel-- 0:00:51.820,0:00:55.770 as the infamous Tahsin Korludag character. 0:00:55.910,0:00:59.800 We loved watching you, and we were honored to witness your outstanding acting skills. 0:01:00.000,0:01:03.760 Now, I have some questions about the show: 0:01:04.220,0:01:07.140 First of all, the American audience is wondering, 0:01:08.710,0:01:12.220 --I also tried answer to this question as Turkish person-- 0:01:12.220,0:01:15.700 They are wondering why the episodes are approximately two and a half hours long, 0:01:16.060,0:01:19.860 and they wonder how you feel about these working conditions? 0:01:19.860,0:01:25.790 How is it affecting you as an actor? 0:01:26.200,0:01:28.460 The answer is very simple actually. 0:01:29.100,0:01:32.060 Filling up the time slots. 0:01:32.160,0:01:34.570 I mean, right after the main 8 o'clock news, 0:01:34.570,0:01:37.610 all night, until midnight. 0:01:37.610,0:01:40.220 People are watching these TV shows until they go to bed. 0:01:40.940,0:01:44.080 They get four long commercial breaks, and 0:01:45.220,0:01:47.760 for that reason, they don't watch any other show. 0:01:48.120,0:01:50.260 And the commercials are big profit makers. 0:01:50.360,0:01:52.675 That's why the channels prefer it this way. 0:01:52.675,0:01:56.045 But this creates hard working conditions for the cast and the crew. 0:01:56.200,0:01:57.500 Even difficult for the audience. 0:01:59.100,0:02:00.520 Filming one episode-- 0:02:00.900,0:02:03.920 as an audience, we see the shows as two and a half hours long. 0:02:05.280,0:02:08.100 How long does it take to film it? Like one week? 0:02:08.240,0:02:11.400 Takes about five days, maximum six days. 0:02:11.560,0:02:14.575 How many hours do you work each day? 0:02:14.575,0:02:17.855 We work around sixteen to seventeen hours a day. 0:02:18.320,0:02:22.140 These are very heavy and hard working conditions by American standards. 0:02:22.520,0:02:23.580 I know. 0:02:23.620,0:02:27.820 I was a committee member in World Federation of Actors. 0:02:28.120,0:02:29.680 For that reason, I know. 0:02:30.060,0:02:32.680 In the United States, there is an American Actors Union. 0:02:32.780,0:02:38.100 They also pay a lot of attention to those rules and regulations that you mentioned. 0:02:38.240,0:02:40.660 That union works really well. 0:02:40.660,0:02:44.140 But unfortunately, those rules are not imposed in Turkey. 0:02:45.620,0:02:47.920 Ok. Another question: 0:02:47.920,0:02:52.590 do you receive your script daily, or weekly? 0:02:52.590,0:02:57.240 Or do you receive the entire script for the show all at once? 0:02:57.240,0:03:02.230 Do screenwriters write the episodes weekly and then give them to you for each episode? 0:03:02.250,0:03:03.870 It is written weekly. 0:03:04.540,0:03:07.420 Then you don't know about the next episode. 0:03:07.420,0:03:10.460 -Do they give you the script on the beginning of each week?[br]-Yes. 0:03:10.460,0:03:11.010 Yes. 0:03:11.010,0:03:16.240 We are wondering how much time you get to memorize the script. 0:03:16.300,0:03:18.390 We memorize the script really fast. 0:03:18.420,0:03:21.450 Now, an actor in the United States 0:03:21.480,0:03:26.520 receives the script for the whole year, or for the entire show. 0:03:26.680,0:03:30.120 Therefore, he reads the entire story, 0:03:30.340,0:03:33.220 and they stock up at least two or three episodes before the show goes live, 0:03:33.400,0:03:36.250 or maybe even complete the entire show. 0:03:36.260,0:03:40.220 Therefore, by the time the show is on TV, the same actor may be already working on another project. 0:03:40.220,0:03:41.160 And, 0:03:41.380,0:03:46.120 because the show is not showing, that is a long and relaxed working period for the actor. 0:03:46.520,0:03:48.960 I mean, they film one episode in one month... 0:03:49.535,0:03:51.675 Like a movie. 0:03:51.675,0:03:55.435 But for us, that's not the case... 0:03:56.505,0:03:59.895 We film the two and a half hour long episode, which is longer than a movie, in six days. 0:04:00.020,0:04:03.460 So if you think, an average movie is recorded in one month, how can this be filmed in six days? Is it possible? 0:04:03.520,0:04:05.120 Yes, that's exactly what we are wondering. 0:04:05.200,0:04:07.860 Especially myself, as an American audience. 0:04:08.260,0:04:09.740 About the working conditions. 0:04:10.395,0:04:13.495 Do you have a union to protect your rights? 0:04:13.535,0:04:16.394 Yes, there is, but due to copyrights, 0:04:16.399,0:04:19.920 we are not able to claim our rights. 0:04:20.160,0:04:22.760 We can not force those rights that we should automatically have. 0:04:22.885,0:04:23.885 Because, 0:04:24.840,0:04:26.880 acting as a job 0:04:26.880,0:04:30.040 is not defined clearly enough in the Labor Laws. 0:04:30.180,0:04:34.210 Its definition is vague-- not clear. 0:04:34.460,0:04:37.680 And it's not clear for those who work in this industry as well. 0:04:37.720,0:04:40.640 What are the given rights, those are not clear. 0:04:41.580,0:04:42.640 For example, 0:04:44.380,0:04:48.220 an actor in the United States could be performing in a very few projects, 0:04:48.220,0:04:49.040 but in return, 0:04:49.340,0:04:54.620 due to well established copyright laws, can continue to receive income from those projects. 0:04:55.100,0:04:57.840 But that's not the case here in Turkey. 0:04:57.840,0:05:00.840 An actor could be playing in many movies, because there is no copyright law, 0:05:00.840,0:05:04.080 they sell the movie with the rights and the actor does not receive any benefits from the future showings. 0:05:04.080,0:05:06.855 From all those additional showings 0:05:06.855,0:05:09.825 since there is no copyrights, 0:05:09.825,0:05:13.205 we call that "tying rights" or "neighbor rights" 0:05:13.885,0:05:15.335 since they don't purchase this rights. 0:05:16.560,0:05:22.690 During the early Yesilcam era (early years of movies in Turkey), hundreds of actors lived in poverty and died miserably. 0:05:23.860,0:05:25.580 Very true, sadly enough. 0:05:26.120,0:05:30.170 Now, I would like to get into this specific topic-- 0:05:30.640,0:05:37.560 Specifically in Turkish shows, the main theme is love and... 0:05:40.160,0:05:43.100 betrayal ... How do you say betrayal in Turkish ?? 0:05:44.380,0:05:46.230 "Ihanet" 0:05:46.860,0:05:47.480 Yeah!! 0:05:48.160,0:05:52.980 Almost all characters, whether the lead or co-stars 0:05:55.620,0:06:04.350 seems like all actors really try to live their character, and to portray him as if they are real emotions. 0:06:04.350,0:06:10.460 For North American audiences, this particular quality is the chief characteristic of a "Turkish Drama." 0:06:10.800,0:06:14.060 Maybe you don't know this exists. 0:06:14.065,0:06:17.115 In English, there is a term "Drama Queen." 0:06:17.120,0:06:22.640 And there is also a new term among the audience now saying, "Don't give me Turkish drama." 0:06:22.920,0:06:25.100 Ohhhh really??? 0:06:25.100,0:06:28.180 Because nowadays people are well familiar with Turkish TV shows, 0:06:28.260,0:06:31.920 and now this is part of the lexicon. 0:06:32.000,0:06:33.440 Very interesting!! 0:06:34.160,0:06:37.650 Really, it's actually pretty important. It's an honor. 0:06:38.200,0:06:42.000 This is a reason I wanted to meet you to explain this in person. 0:06:42.020,0:06:45.740 I mean, there is a serious attachment to Turkish series by the American audience. 0:06:45.980,0:06:48.420 In another question, they asked, 0:06:51.655,0:06:54.695 outside of Turkey 0:06:54.695,0:06:57.725 among the other world cultures, 0:06:57.730,0:07:04.100 why do you think Turkish TV shows resonate with other cultures? 0:07:04.380,0:07:08.210 Do you think love is the universal language, or our cultural resemblances-- 0:07:08.260,0:07:12.020 our traditions, cultural values for example-- 0:07:12.020,0:07:14.760 I find the Mexican culture and traditions very similar to Turkish ones. 0:07:15.720,0:07:18.670 They always have strong family ties. 0:07:18.690,0:07:30.160 Why do you think the Turkish shows make such a deep impact and have become so popular? What do you think are the main reasons? 0:07:30.820,0:07:33.920 I believe this is due to resemblances among the people around the world. 0:07:34.215,0:07:35.115 I mean, 0:07:35.120,0:07:37.400 when we did not have 0:07:37.640,0:07:39.740 any shows on Turkish TV, 0:07:40.280,0:07:43.340 my wife, who is also a producer with the Turkish TV and Radio Association, 0:07:43.480,0:07:45.240 started the first shows on TV. 0:07:45.340,0:07:48.600 Those first shows were written based on historical novels, 0:07:48.720,0:07:52.080 Turkish novels, and true events. 0:07:52.340,0:07:55.570 And then "Ferhunde Hanim ve Her Daughters" 0:07:55.900,0:07:58.130 yes.. your wife wrote that script? 0:07:58.540,0:07:59.480 Yes, she did. 0:07:59.500,0:08:00.820 Like in that show, 0:08:00.820,0:08:04.320 it shows the every day events in a family. 0:08:05.300,0:08:07.330 But, when screenwriting became more commercialized 0:08:07.340,0:08:12.780 to make money, the formats changed in the TV show business. 0:08:13.880,0:08:16.880 A young actor, a star... 0:08:17.420,0:08:19.940 a young actress, a star... 0:08:19.940,0:08:20.920 and their love.... 0:08:21.220,0:08:23.340 These type of scenarios were appealing to young people. 0:08:23.760,0:08:25.620 In addition, there has to be a mother and father in the story. 0:08:25.920,0:08:30.420 They either have to be divorced or not getting along, 0:08:30.860,0:08:33.740 or there has to be a side living an extravagant lifestyle, 0:08:34.100,0:08:37.179 where the girl's parents are very rich, on the other hand, the boy's family is very poor. 0:08:37.179,0:08:38.260 Or vice-versa. 0:08:39.320,0:08:42.400 So when things like this come along... 0:08:42.600,0:08:45.300 At one point, the Brazilian shows were very famous in Turkey too, if you remember. 0:08:45.820,0:08:47.840 Those shows had almost the same themes. 0:08:47.980,0:08:48.980 Yes. 0:08:49.080,0:08:50.720 I mean, they either cheat on each other, 0:08:52.240,0:08:58.000 or, the intellectual level of the people are at certain level during certain eras. 0:08:58.220,0:09:01.340 Now for example, people do not like those plots anymore. Why? 0:09:01.840,0:09:05.140 I attribute this to the Internet, social media. 0:09:06.160,0:09:08.980 When those came into our lives, it changed many things. 0:09:09.020,0:09:11.620 And people's TV watching habits have also changed. 0:09:11.640,0:09:14.540 The fact that young people become more intellectual due to the internet, 0:09:14.570,0:09:17.420 then they started seeing these shows as nonsense. 0:09:17.940,0:09:19.400 For example, 0:09:19.400,0:09:26.150 now, instead of having only one star as the lead actor, now all the cast consists of top actors and actresses. 0:09:26.150,0:09:26.890 Yes, true. 0:09:26.900,0:09:31.260 Because, a lead actor or actress alone is not able to carry an entire show. 0:09:31.400,0:09:32.780 Yes, you are right on that. 0:09:34.040,0:09:37.540 Now I would like to move on to Cesur ve Guzel. 0:09:38.420,0:09:42.440 North American audiences know you from your Tahsin Korludag character. 0:09:43.720,0:09:45.980 They admired your performance. 0:09:46.120,0:09:48.520 We all loved watching you. 0:09:49.360,0:09:54.420 Can you describe Tahsin Korludag from your point of view? 0:09:56.060,0:09:59.200 Tahsin Korludag, was an interesting character. 0:10:00.100,0:10:05.940 He knew how to take advantage of the weaknesses of the community around him. 0:10:06.400,0:10:09.430 By having his own people around him, 0:10:10.940,0:10:12.480 who could pressure others, 0:10:14.000,0:10:15.560 who constantly made money, 0:10:15.720,0:10:17.720 and who made him look important, 0:10:17.980,0:10:19.960 who could even be elected, 0:10:19.990,0:10:22.920 who also had his hands in the police department. 0:10:23.580,0:10:29.500 Actually, what we witness in political corruptions around the world is going on in his town. 0:10:31.360,0:10:42.060 Tahsin Korludag is a prime example of today's politicians who make themselves look innocent, but who are not that innocent in reality. 0:10:42.060,0:10:43.180 Yes, very true. 0:10:43.400,0:10:44.040 Isn't he? 0:10:44.620,0:10:50.420 In my opinion, Tahsin Korludag may be even more innocent than the others we see today. 0:10:50.840,0:10:56.400 Besides that, even if he may use his power on people, 0:10:57.080,0:10:59.680 if he may cause some people to disappear, 0:10:59.680,0:11:01.880 he doesn't do this himself. 0:11:01.880,0:11:04.120 Instead, he uses his people to do it. 0:11:04.200,0:11:05.560 Therefore, he is never found guilty. 0:11:06.200,0:11:08.880 No matter how much Cesur was trying to prove that he was... 0:11:09.280,0:11:12.500 Yes, he is not guilty. As hard as Cesur tried. 0:11:12.500,0:11:15.680 But on the other hand, he is a loving person. 0:11:16.180,0:11:17.470 He is very fond of his daughter. 0:11:17.480,0:11:20.240 He took his daughter to school and back when she was young-- 0:11:21.260,0:11:24.020 we know that because it was mentioned throughout the story. 0:11:24.200,0:11:27.600 He finds his son talentless, and for that reason he is always angry with him. 0:11:28.440,0:11:30.860 He finds his daughter talented. 0:11:32.740,0:11:34.040 After losing his wife, 0:11:34.665,0:11:37.355 he became involved with Nihan (Adalet). 0:11:38.340,0:11:39.340 Because... 0:11:40.620,0:11:44.720 when she was staying in an orphanage, the principal was trying to rape her. 0:11:45.660,0:11:47.380 He rescues her, but... 0:11:47.580,0:11:51.180 the other kid, Riza, has a a major role as well. 0:11:52.820,0:11:55.180 For instance, the show ended early. 0:11:55.620,0:11:59.660 If it hadn't, we may have seen what Riza would end up doing. 0:12:00.320,0:12:02.660 We were also wondering about that. 0:12:02.820,0:12:07.540 We also noticed that there was a major flow change in the second half of the series. 0:12:07.760,0:12:10.180 According to our research, we found out the writers changed. 0:12:10.980,0:12:15.760 We, as an American audience, sensed the changes. 0:12:16.100,0:12:23.420 In other words, the flow of the show changed from being captivating to monotonous. 0:12:25.200,0:12:27.700 This is a two-part question: 0:12:27.820,0:12:29.540 As an actor, 0:12:29.960,0:12:34.660 can you express your opinion about the script? 0:12:35.180,0:12:41.340 Are you at liberty to say, "This is not logical. If it was written this way or that way, it would have been better," or things like that? 0:12:41.640,0:12:44.200 Do you have any control over the flow of the script? 0:12:44.320,0:12:46.280 Not much. 0:12:46.420,0:12:50.900 Because, for example, on this show, the first writer was Ece Yörenç, and she did it alone. 0:12:51.480,0:12:53.660 And she wrote really interesting storylines for this show. 0:12:53.880,0:12:56.040 First we started the show with that story in mind, 0:12:56.140,0:13:01.040 but I think after the 16th episode, the writers changed, and another group of writers took over. 0:13:02.900,0:13:09.100 Of course, Ece had plotted out the story in her head in a certain way. 0:13:09.460,0:13:13.100 The new group was not able to know what was in her mind. 0:13:13.940,0:13:16.500 Therefore, they created their own story. 0:13:16.920,0:13:20.280 They tried to follow the same rhythm, but it caused a change in the flow of the story. 0:13:20.500,0:13:23.640 For example, in my opinion, my role-- 0:13:23.645,0:13:24.820 But we can not intervene, 0:13:24.900,0:13:27.340 because writing a scenario is a very difficult task. 0:13:27.360,0:13:34.480 Think about it. The show will be watched for months and years by the people, 0:13:34.700,0:13:38.320 but they only have a few days to write the script. 0:13:38.320,0:13:39.120 True. 0:13:39.940,0:13:44.960 For example, Tahsin's right-hand man shouldn't have been killed. 0:13:45.580,0:13:46.560 Salih. 0:13:47.020,0:13:50.360 Because, Salih was like a black box, he retained a lot of information regarding the past. 0:13:50.420,0:13:54.460 Tahsin's wife Nihan should not have been killed as well, because she had unfinished business with Riza. 0:13:54.580,0:13:56.000 What happened between her and Riza? 0:13:56.005,0:13:58.245 We never found that out. 0:13:58.620,0:14:03.600 If they had worked on those storylines, the plot would have evolved in a much different way. 0:14:04.060,0:14:07.100 Yes, maybe the show would have been continued and had new seasons. 0:14:09.660,0:14:15.000 We as an audience always wonder about those things. 0:14:15.940,0:14:21.140 During the writing stage, we do not have much interference with writing. 0:14:21.300,0:14:26.960 While filming on set, we may sometimes make suggestions. 0:14:27.640,0:14:34.340 But it is impossible to make changes over 5 to 15 pages, or the entire script. 0:14:34.980,0:14:37.860 One other question is, 0:14:37.860,0:14:40.760 --not only during Cesur ve Güzel, but for other shows as well-- 0:14:40.920,0:14:43.840 when filming the show, 0:14:43.960,0:14:47.940 based on your experiences, are the scenes filmed in chronological order, 0:14:48.220,0:14:51.720 or are they sometimes filmed out of order? 0:14:53.220,0:14:58.480 For example, if you don't have a role in one episode, do you not come to the set at all? 0:14:59.260,0:15:04.440 Do you film all your parts at once and then take a few days off? 0:15:04.600,0:15:07.540 Or whomever is on that specific episode, are those the only people showing up for filming? 0:15:07.540,0:15:09.120 Now... 0:15:10.060,0:15:13.680 what we call the main cast, who are the leading actors and actresses, 0:15:14.400,0:15:17.300 there is no episode without those lead roles. 0:15:17.520,0:15:20.440 If we didn't have a role that week, that means we have no income that week. 0:15:22.105,0:15:23.105 Because 0:15:23.320,0:15:27.130 all of the rights are being sold to the producers in Turkey according to contracts. 0:15:28.240,0:15:31.750 In my opinion, actors should have the rights over the production as well. 0:15:32.620,0:15:33.620 Actors 0:15:34.335,0:15:35.805 could itemize this in their contract. 0:15:36.740,0:15:39.720 They can require that there will not be an episode without their role. 0:15:40.020,0:15:41.020 That's the first thing. 0:15:42.165,0:15:43.665 The second one is, 0:15:45.600,0:15:49.040 for having a part in every episode, 0:15:50.620,0:15:52.900 it does not work like that, it goes like this... For example, 0:15:52.900,0:15:56.840 in the beginning, when you turn the first page on the script, 0:15:56.960,0:15:59.580 just because you see Tahsin on the first page 0:15:59.580,0:16:01.900 doesn't mean you'll start filming with Tahsin. 0:16:02.875,0:16:06.255 You could start right in the middle. We start according to location. 0:16:06.720,0:16:09.500 Because we start filming on Mondays, 0:16:09.660,0:16:14.100 if the scene needs to be filmed in the office, the space needs to be rented on Monday. 0:16:14.280,0:16:17.175 That office may not be available on Monday, 0:16:17.180,0:16:21.800 but if it can be rented Sunday, then we may have to film on a Sunday. 0:16:22.460,0:16:24.940 The Mansion may be rented for Monday. 0:16:25.760,0:16:28.480 On Tuesday, we may have rented the farmhouse. 0:16:29.400,0:16:33.680 On Wednesday, we need to vacate the city center, and the show's props are removed. 0:16:34.040,0:16:36.320 Then what happens is, 0:16:36.320,0:16:41.640 the last scene could be filmed in the beginning, the first scene may be filmed in the end. 0:16:42.080,0:16:47.260 The scenes are not filmed in chronological order, but will later be edited and put in order. 0:16:47.680,0:16:50.320 All right then, you memorize the script... 0:16:50.720,0:16:55.220 OK, I pretty much know the answer to this question, but it has been asked by the members. 0:16:55.480,0:16:59.720 But during the filming, do you improvise the lines at all? 0:17:00.720,0:17:06.260 Do you add any additional lines, or change any lines based on your mood that day? 0:17:06.420,0:17:11.200 Now, as you know, a knowledge that come from memorization is worthless in life. 0:17:11.380,0:17:12.359 Isn't it? 0:17:13.119,0:17:14.760 For example in old American movies, 0:17:15.599,0:17:20.260 let's say a new lieutenant who recently graduated from military school is stationed on a submarine, 0:17:21.760,0:17:24.920 and he gives orders as he memorized in school. 0:17:25.420,0:17:28.800 But, the soldiers who are already know how things work on the submarine 0:17:28.840,0:17:30.500 don't take him seriously. 0:17:30.580,0:17:35.220 There's a saying, "chirping lieutenant" in Turkish. 0:17:36.640,0:17:39.880 And the lieutenant gets really angry with the soldiers, and there's a disagreement among them. 0:17:40.820,0:17:44.560 But, during a battle when the soldiers prove to be right, 0:17:46.090,0:17:51.560 the lieutenant tells the soldiers that they were right, and they come to an agreement. 0:17:52.300,0:17:54.860 We experience this in real life as well. 0:17:58.280,0:17:59.600 People 0:17:59.720,0:18:05.960 during their career, they have to prove their effectiveness. 0:18:08.180,0:18:12.320 They don't react to events with memorized responses. 0:18:12.320,0:18:15.580 When you memorize something, you can't understand the role you are playing. 0:18:15.680,0:18:17.880 You can memorize your role without understanding. 0:18:17.960,0:18:23.660 However, if you understand the role properly, if you know why this person is behaving certain way, 0:18:23.720,0:18:27.060 how this character would act, how he would behave, 0:18:27.280,0:18:28.340 how he would yell, 0:18:28.480,0:18:29.900 how he would laugh-- 0:18:30.160,0:18:34.060 when you consider all of those, it is no longer memorization of the role, 0:18:34.960,0:18:38.940 and the script could be written in the form of a novel. 0:18:39.260,0:18:42.560 And when you, as an actor, can adapt yourself to talking in the style of your character, 0:18:42.560,0:18:44.720 you are able to make your character unforgettable. 0:18:45.460,0:18:48.515 Another question-- 0:18:48.520,0:18:50.480 as you play your character 0:18:50.980,0:18:54.200 throughout the filming of the show, 0:18:56.670,0:19:02.760 do you feel influenced by your character in your daily life? 0:19:02.760,0:19:04.160 No! 0:19:04.460,0:19:07.300 You snap out of your character as soon as the filming is over? 0:19:07.900,0:19:11.960 Some of those actors who claim to 'live their characters' say it for attention. 0:19:12.280,0:19:12.940 Hmm... 0:19:13.100,0:19:15.540 There are some of those actors acting like experts claiming this... 0:19:15.580,0:19:18.680 even in the United States, well-known actors claim this. 0:19:19.560,0:19:26.820 For example one of them says, I act my part even on the street, so that I can see the reactions of the people-- 0:19:26.880,0:19:28.860 he says, I try my role outside.... 0:19:28.920,0:19:32.720 And the person who interviews asks, "Is this how you act at home as well?" 0:19:33.240,0:19:35.280 He replies back, "Well, we won't talk about that." 0:19:35.900,0:19:39.600 As if he must act like that all the time. 0:19:40.120,0:19:42.080 But a good actor 0:19:43.220,0:19:46.060 is like a good human scientist. 0:19:48.380,0:19:50.980 Like a psychologist... 0:19:51.600,0:19:54.920 Like a sociologist ... 0:19:55.740,0:20:01.160 On top of that, if he is able to evolve himself, 0:20:01.440,0:20:06.740 he can generate his role in his mind easily. 0:20:07.140,0:20:10.880 He does not need to enact it outside and get sick of it. 0:20:10.920,0:20:14.060 Otherwise, every actor would get sick of it after each project. 0:20:14.320,0:20:16.640 Or it would change his personality. 0:20:17.920,0:20:20.920 I don't find this to be a good practice or even creative. 0:20:21.460,0:20:25.580 OK, I would like to come back to Cesur ve Güzel again. 0:20:25.820,0:20:28.160 During the filming of Cesur ve Güzel, 0:20:29.080,0:20:34.300 can you tell us about a funny memory or experience? 0:20:34.780,0:20:37.880 It could be with Kivanc, or with Tuba. 0:20:39.040,0:20:42.980 Any funny scene with those actors that you have experienced-- 0:20:42.980,0:20:45.600 an accident or a joke? 0:20:46.080,0:20:48.100 We experienced that all the time. 0:20:48.100,0:20:53.590 For example, Tahsin Korludag has a tough personality, but also has a very soft side. 0:20:55.610,0:21:01.840 For example, the other day I was talking to a Turkish couple who had watched the show. 0:21:03.480,0:21:06.000 He said, "I really liked Tahsin Korludag." 0:21:06.360,0:21:09.280 I asked, "Why? Do you have a tough personality as well?" 0:21:09.840,0:21:11.760 He said, "No, I don't. 0:21:12.220,0:21:15.000 And in my opinion, Tahsin Korludag did not either." 0:21:15.080,0:21:17.080 I asked, "Is that how you perceived Tahsin?" 0:21:17.080,0:21:20.960 He said "Yes. He may have some attitude problems, but he was an OK guy." 0:21:21.880,0:21:24.915 I said, "How was he an OK guy?" 0:21:24.920,0:21:27.500 So, this is how people perceive characters. 0:21:28.280,0:21:30.220 In my opinion, Tahsin Korludag 0:21:30.760,0:21:33.460 acts tough sometimes, and sometimes like a fatherly individual. 0:21:33.740,0:21:37.020 So one day, when I was acting Tahsin 0:21:37.360,0:21:38.720 --I am coming back to your question-- 0:21:40.180,0:21:42.980 Erkan Avci, who was acting as my son, 0:21:47.080,0:21:48.440 in one scene... 0:21:49.440,0:21:52.360 Tahsin says, "Hand me the bread, bottomless cowboy." (as in no underwear) 0:21:52.500,0:21:55.500 I remember that part! "Bottomless cowboy!" 0:21:57.420,0:22:00.920 Because he got tricked by the other woman. 0:22:00.920,0:22:03.120 She got him drunk, drugged him, 0:22:03.320,0:22:04.660 and then got him naked. 0:22:04.800,0:22:07.640 And when he woke up, he thought they really did get intimate, but nothing happened in reality. 0:22:07.640,0:22:13.540 And the father, both laughing at him and making fun of him... 0:22:13.540,0:22:17.060 So I said that phrase very naturally and spontaneously, 0:22:18.480,0:22:20.880 and we all laughed about that scene. 0:22:21.160,0:22:24.060 We had many scenes like that with Kivanc as well. 0:22:25.200,0:22:28.000 In the real script there was no such phrase as "bottomless Cowboy" then? 0:22:28.040,0:22:32.940 No. Ece wrote that actually, but she was expecting it to be expressed differently. 0:22:33.300,0:22:40.480 For example, if I had said it with more of a straight tone, no one would have laughed... 0:22:41.280,0:22:42.360 But, what did I do? 0:22:43.140,0:22:47.740 I looked at him and said it with a condescending tone, just like how Tahsin would say..."give me the bread bottomless cowboy!!" 0:22:47.840,0:22:50.920 See? Even now I laugh when I hear it, because I remember that scene! 0:22:51.240,0:22:53.240 Because, Sometimes 0:22:53.240,0:22:54.880 actors, 0:22:54.885,0:22:57.865 even if it is written in a certain way, 0:22:57.865,0:23:00.860 they can exaggerate, and could underline it by emphasizing it. 0:23:00.970,0:23:03.080 Then they lose the humor behind it. 0:23:03.080,0:23:08.000 But when a father says, "Hand me the bread, bottomless cowboy!" 0:23:08.020,0:23:10.720 it becomes funnier...then the son gets mad. 0:23:11.320,0:23:15.180 If he says it with straight face and tone, then it would not work. 0:23:15.440,0:23:18.140 Would not give the same taste. 0:23:18.420,0:23:23.880 We call moments like that "unexpected acting" or "spontaneous acting." 0:23:23.880,0:23:28.400 Erkan actually has his name for it, "opposite corner acting" 0:23:28.540,0:23:31.100 or "a-tonal acting." 0:23:31.410,0:23:35.540 And then I said, one day a-tonal acting will become a tonal acting. 0:23:35.540,0:23:36.040 I see. 0:23:36.280,0:23:37.080 Because, 0:23:37.380,0:23:39.640 an actor should be able to do surprises like that, 0:23:40.240,0:23:42.450 but he should be able to do it, without underlining. 0:23:43.380,0:23:44.800 It should be natural. 0:23:44.800,0:23:46.410 That's how we are in real life. 0:23:46.420,0:23:48.720 We had that in the Korludag family too. 0:23:48.800,0:23:51.320 Ece wrote that, but we did not use it much. 0:23:51.320,0:23:54.030 Some, especially the older people go like this... 0:23:55.220,0:23:56.940 Meaning like, 'give me the glass' 0:23:57.120,0:23:58.820 without saying "give me the glass." 0:23:59.500,0:24:02.430 And you look at him wondering what he is asking. 0:24:03.740,0:24:05.480 And you go, "Oh, you want the glass?" 0:24:06.960,0:24:08.780 He is too lazy to talk. 0:24:10.840,0:24:12.240 We have those kinds of people too. 0:24:12.700,0:24:15.440 We could act that way, because we see that daily. 0:24:17.380,0:24:22.840 Unfortunately, when actors act, viewers often believe that is the actor's true personality in real life. 0:24:24.680,0:24:27.200 But when you think about it, we do a lot of unusual behaviors in our daily life. 0:24:27.460,0:24:32.780 When those unusual behaviors are adapted to the characters that we play, then it becomes very enjoyable. 0:24:33.080,0:24:35.730 But to carry this out, you need to know the people really well. 0:24:36.035,0:24:38.295 But many of us who are actors, 0:24:38.755,0:24:40.535 when we play in a movie or series, 0:24:40.980,0:24:42.300 in order not to make a mistake, 0:24:42.380,0:24:45.240 we act like we're molded in a cliche frame. 0:24:45.240,0:24:46.380 We act with memorization. 0:24:46.460,0:24:49.390 That becomes, just like I mentioned earlier, 0:24:49.420,0:24:53.480 the lieutenant in submarine story who said things from memorization, not expressing by living. 0:24:55.020,0:24:58.320 Do you have any memories with Kivanc 0:24:58.480,0:25:00.220 during the filming of Cesur and Güzel? 0:25:00.460,0:25:03.320 Of course, we have lots of memories... 0:25:03.600,0:25:06.040 I can't think of one right now but, 0:25:07.075,0:25:11.295 when he first met me, 0:25:11.300,0:25:13.520 in our first scene together, 0:25:14.020,0:25:16.340 he said to me, "Tamer Abi, my eyes are on you, 0:25:16.420,0:25:20.740 because, you can wear many hats at the same time." 0:25:21.320,0:25:25.620 Kivanc is also one of those guys whom I really like-- 0:25:27.750,0:25:30.310 who has a strong personality. 0:25:30.360,0:25:32.040 And one time he approached me and said, 0:25:32.300,0:25:35.900 "Tamer Abi, if you see that I am doing something wrong, please let me know." 0:25:36.100,0:25:37.520 I do that too! 0:25:37.800,0:25:40.900 Since I have years of experience, they all work with a level of respect. 0:25:41.840,0:25:44.380 On the other hand, I can go to young actor and ask, 0:25:44.600,0:25:45.940 --especially when I do a pretentious role, -- 0:25:45.940,0:25:48.160 I ask how it was perceived. 0:25:48.360,0:25:51.040 What do you think? Does it work or not? 0:25:51.640,0:25:54.860 Because they have the outside observant eyes. 0:25:54.935,0:25:57.885 They look objectively. 0:25:58.620,0:25:59.980 Without criticizing you. 0:25:59.980,0:26:02.340 Hah! Without criticizing, they express what they think. 0:26:02.640,0:26:06.420 Yes, we called that "constructive criticism" in English. 0:26:06.420,0:26:08.460 Yes, you express what you think in a constructive way. 0:26:08.840,0:26:09.840 Yes... Yes... 0:26:11.520,0:26:13.700 Let me look at the questions again, so that I don't miss anything. 0:26:15.060,0:26:16.540 I would like to conclude with "Sanata Evet". 0:26:16.540,0:26:18.540 But before that.... 0:26:24.160,0:26:28.420 Regarding the Cesur and Guzel series... 0:26:33.920,0:26:42.000 Is there anything you wish or think that the audience should know about Cesur ve Guzel? 0:26:42.240,0:26:45.060 Anything that the audience does not know about the show, 0:26:45.060,0:26:47.880 but is a very interesting fact about the show? 0:26:51.600,0:26:54.320 The Cesur and Güzel series, 0:27:02.220,0:27:06.520 there was a Hollywood movie called 'Long Hot Summer' (1958) ...the story was inspired from that movie. 0:27:06.980,0:27:09.760 Let me look it up for a minute-- 0:27:17.715,0:27:19.365 the plots were taken from that movie. 0:27:20.900,0:27:21.900 who was it.... 0:27:24.420,0:27:27.800 Orson Welles was in the cast, Paul Newman was the lead actor. 0:27:28.980,0:27:31.960 Tahsin's role was played by Orson Welles, 0:27:32.245,0:27:34.405 and Cesur's role was performed by 0:27:35.340,0:27:37.860 Paul Newman. 0:27:38.500,0:27:41.340 Although it was similar, the story is not exactly the same. 0:27:42.080,0:27:47.260 Indeed, after a certain point, the plot took a completely different direction as we said. 0:27:47.580,0:27:51.140 And this adaptation gives a global appeal to the production. 0:27:51.180,0:27:55.040 We see here that, people behave in similar ways. 0:27:55.040,0:27:55.760 I mean, 0:27:55.860,0:27:59.320 even if it's a Brazilian show, it's being watched in Turkey. 0:27:59.660,0:28:03.460 People love watching those exaggerated love stories. 0:28:03.460,0:28:05.995 In Turkey, women can't get up from the TV screen. 0:28:05.995,0:28:09.205 It was the same in Europe. 0:28:09.320,0:28:14.700 In the United States, when daytime TV series started, there was a major implementation of copyright rules . 0:28:14.980,0:28:18.960 So now we see the same implementation on Turkish movies and TV shows. 0:28:20.265,0:28:21.435 Therefore, 0:28:21.865,0:28:24.735 for example, Cesur ve Güzel aired in Georgia, 0:28:24.900,0:28:28.740 in Colombia, there is also a fan club, and now showing where you guys are. 0:28:30.360,0:28:32.000 For this reason, 0:28:32.760,0:28:33.760 I mean, 0:28:34.365,0:28:37.095 the story, 0:28:37.095,0:28:39.885 while it is similar to an American movie, 0:28:40.600,0:28:45.020 it takes place in Turkey... 0:28:45.840,0:28:50.320 Therefore, a person from America, Colombia, or Georgia can find similarities in them... 0:28:50.560,0:28:51.180 Yes. 0:28:52.640,0:28:53.780 So, lastly..... 0:28:53.780,0:28:58.380 You have a well-known message called "Sanata Evet," which means "Yes To Art." 0:28:58.580,0:29:01.880 Those who follow you in social media are well aware of this. 0:29:03.900,0:29:10.160 You told us, "Art is not a product, it's a process." Can to elaborate on that a little? 0:29:10.840,0:29:15.490 Can you expand on that little more? 0:29:16.160,0:29:17.100 Sure, gladly... 0:29:18.040,0:29:22.760 Now, the century that we are living in, the 21st century, 0:29:22.760,0:29:27.180 we are hoping that all things will change for better. 0:29:29.920,0:29:33.020 For example, it was speculated that if the computers stopped (YK2), then life would stop too. 0:29:33.300,0:29:34.360 But it didn't. 0:29:34.560,0:29:35.520 Life continued. 0:29:35.520,0:29:40.160 But, if it stopped, it was said, a new century would start anyway. 0:29:40.480,0:29:45.140 But although it did not, a new century started regardless. 0:29:46.600,0:29:51.120 In my opinion, this is a threat in a way, that people are becoming like robots. 0:29:52.060,0:29:58.280 For example, Jack Baugh claims that this can be prevented by involving people in art. 0:30:00.000,0:30:03.760 But when we say art, it includes drawing, sculpture, drawing, photography, theater, cinema, architecture, 0:30:03.760,0:30:05.900 and now sports is included. 0:30:05.900,0:30:08.260 Maybe later on cooking will be included too, who knows. 0:30:08.520,0:30:12.580 Is art going to be creating a product from these vessels, 0:30:12.800,0:30:18.490 or will it be by evolving ourselves as human beings...and creating the process of art? 0:30:19.760,0:30:24.880 If the concept of art comes only from drawing, music, sculpture, theater, etc. 0:30:25.440,0:30:29.280 if it has a code name, then we don't need to call it by name. 0:30:29.860,0:30:32.220 Drawing is a talent, an expression of a craft. 0:30:33.260,0:30:40.100 But art is the process of THINKING how the person is going to create that craft. 0:30:41.740,0:30:45.160 That is why I say, when people realize that process, 0:30:45.210,0:30:50.560 they will also realize that THEY are the masterpiece themselves. 0:30:51.520,0:30:55.940 Therefore, I can master anything... 0:30:55.940,0:30:59.220 As soon as they realize that, they will be ready to expand their knowledge and evolve. 0:30:59.270,0:31:03.240 Then, everyone will live with their right brain for art, and their left brain for analytical thinking. 0:31:03.260,0:31:08.620 The cerebellum is the place that combines the two parts. 0:31:09.020,0:31:10.420 And all humans 0:31:10.420,0:31:13.440 --from the most primitive to the most developed human-- 0:31:13.440,0:31:14.630 have this capability. 0:31:14.630,0:31:19.020 The most important thing is for humans to understand this ability and use it. 0:31:19.280,0:31:22.145 Again, in this century, 0:31:22.145,0:31:25.435 we need to make our lives a form of art. 0:31:25.435,0:31:28.545 I call it directing our thoughts in a positive way. 0:31:28.545,0:31:31.840 I named it "Sanata Evet" (Yes to art), 0:31:32.220,0:31:35.235 and we are seeing this expanding around the world. 0:31:35.240,0:31:44.420 I sometimes wish we could have sort of an non-governmental entity, Global Government, where people are ruled by the Sanata Evet (Yes To Art) vision. 0:31:44.420,0:31:51.520 Where people use their creativity for art, instead of war, death, hunger, and 0:31:51.820,0:31:54.300 concepts like injustice. 0:31:54.300,0:31:58.960 Where people could produce more positive answers. 0:32:01.285,0:32:07.855 I expressed this message as my dream, but there is a big movement on this message. 0:32:08.975,0:32:11.865 Yes, of course you sharing your message from social media has made big impact. 0:32:11.865,0:32:14.635 It comes out of me, and that's OK. 0:32:14.635,0:32:17.875 But it doesn't have to be identified with my name. 0:32:18.155,0:32:20.665 I wish the whole world would adapt to this message. 0:32:20.905,0:32:23.735 Humanity could benefit from this direction, 0:32:23.735,0:32:26.295 just like those people who were able to deliver their messages in history, 0:32:26.295,0:32:29.095 we could do the same. 0:32:29.100,0:32:34.140 Now, another reason I wanted to talk to you was to get your permission first. 0:32:34.420,0:32:38.940 We wanted to work on your "Sanata Evet" campaign. In English, it would go by Say Yes To Art. 0:32:39.360,0:32:41.340 Let's call it "Yes To Art." 0:32:41.580,0:32:42.320 "Yes To Art," OK. 0:32:43.520,0:32:50.330 From now on, we would like to create your Sanata Evet and YesToArt message as hashtags on our social media platforms. 0:32:50.960,0:32:52.960 Of course we can only do this with your permission. 0:32:52.960,0:32:57.210 Very important!! Very!! Please also do comment about it, not just a hashtag. 0:32:57.240,0:33:02.230 When you see something being done nicely, explain how that concept can be connected with #SanataEvet #YesToArt. 0:33:02.230,0:33:06.905 And we will share this message with all of our members..