WEBVTT 00:00:08.624 --> 00:00:13.246 [strumming music] 00:00:32.536 --> 00:00:35.583 [Speaking Spanish] 00:00:35.583 --> 00:00:36.634 [Plays "A" note] 00:00:39.237 --> 00:00:42.400 [Pedro Reyes] I believe that anything can  become material for art. 00:00:46.920 --> 00:00:52.020 It's one of the freest environments because you're requested to reinvent the rules. 00:00:52.779 --> 00:00:56.282 [Chimes] 00:00:57.935 --> 00:01:01.109 — Let's try with revolvers, but it would be better with pistols. 00:01:01.759 --> 00:01:03.049 — Si. Si. 00:01:04.680 --> 00:01:11.640 This is one of the many workshops that I've been  doing where we turn weapons into instruments. 00:01:12.680 --> 00:01:14.680 [Speaking Spanish] 00:01:19.134 --> 00:01:21.201 [welding] 00:01:21.328 --> 00:01:24.588 The notion of sculpture is  having the understanding 00:01:24.588 --> 00:01:29.283 that you can take that material and give it shape. 00:01:31.920 --> 00:01:37.980 Something that was designed to kill,  how will it produce sounds for music? 00:01:37.980 --> 00:01:40.680 [Chiming] 00:01:40.680 --> 00:01:45.720 I often find myself knocking at the  doors of different government agencies 00:01:45.720 --> 00:01:52.320 trying to persuade them to embrace this initiative  as something that could happen on a national scale 00:01:52.320 --> 00:01:57.842 because we need to get rid of all the weapons that  are entering our territory from the United States. 00:02:00.720 --> 00:02:06.180 Doing these workshops is an attempt to  transform not only the material metal 00:02:06.960 --> 00:02:11.320 but also to try to create a  psychological transformation and, 00:02:11.320 --> 00:02:13.080 hopefully, a social transformation. 00:02:13.080 --> 00:02:17.997 [Percussion music] 00:02:17.997 --> 00:02:21.726 [Electric guitar] 00:02:22.550 --> 00:02:31.404 [Music continues] 00:02:41.280 --> 00:02:44.280 I grew up in Mexico City,  and I have always lived here, 00:02:45.250 --> 00:02:47.468 and I don't have any plans to move. 00:02:47.468 --> 00:02:48.597 I love it. 00:02:57.240 --> 00:03:02.040 I studied architecture, although I  had always wanted to be an artist. 00:03:07.620 --> 00:03:13.800 After architecture school, I wanted to have  a kind of a space for doing experiments, 00:03:13.800 --> 00:03:20.000 and I opened an artist-run space  called Torre de los Vientos. 00:03:20.585 --> 00:03:23.862 It was a hollow tower made in 1968, 00:03:24.240 --> 00:03:27.420 and I knew this space was abandoned. 00:03:29.280 --> 00:03:31.680 I squatted in, and I started to use it as 00:03:31.680 --> 00:03:36.600 a studio and then invite other  artists to do projects there, 00:03:37.740 --> 00:03:40.680 so when I started that, I was 23 years old, 00:03:40.680 --> 00:03:43.260 and I didn't have a kind of artistic dedication, 00:03:44.880 --> 00:03:50.880 but I learned through curating what  was the trade of being an artist. 00:03:51.997 --> 00:03:55.476 [Rain falling] 00:04:04.800 --> 00:04:06.840 I consider myself a sculptor. 00:04:09.632 --> 00:04:16.440 As an artist, I'm very interested with how things  are built and how you can walk around them. 00:04:17.160 --> 00:04:23.640 I also am very concerned with form and materials. 00:04:26.288 --> 00:04:28.380 It's interesting because in architecture, 00:04:28.380 --> 00:04:30.420 you learn to solve problems, 00:04:31.260 --> 00:04:34.200 so I think that that stick with me, you know, 00:04:34.200 --> 00:04:36.676 the issue of having to solve problems 00:04:36.676 --> 00:04:41.700 to a degree that often, it's hard for me to think just art for art's sake. 00:04:44.041 --> 00:04:48.385 — And then here we could have other sheet metal pieces 00:04:49.015 --> 00:04:52.202 so when it moves back and forth, you hear 00:04:52.397 --> 00:04:55.597 ♪ Ping ping ping ping ♪ 00:04:57.480 --> 00:05:00.960 Artists change the perception of things. 00:05:02.760 --> 00:05:06.540 So something that is considered disgusting, 00:05:06.540 --> 00:05:14.700 such as an insect, you could turn that into a  source for protein and make food out of insects. 00:05:16.800 --> 00:05:18.180 These are the crickets. 00:05:19.047 --> 00:05:20.036 so, you see 00:05:20.383 --> 00:05:22.182 mm mm, mm 00:05:23.012 --> 00:05:27.205 They have their little legs  and stuff. 00:05:27.790 --> 00:05:30.540 Mm mm. They're very yummy. 00:05:32.760 --> 00:05:36.180 Making a hamburger which, instead of meat, 00:05:36.180 --> 00:05:42.180 you use crickets could have a tremendous effect in the environment. 00:05:43.734 --> 00:05:50.000 Our reliance of meat as a source for  protein is driving the planet to extinction. 00:05:51.360 --> 00:05:54.420 This was an idea that my son gave to me. 00:05:55.460 --> 00:05:57.654 [laughs] 00:06:02.398 --> 00:06:04.780 — They're cricket hamburgers. 00:06:04.780 --> 00:06:05.501 — Whoa! 00:06:05.501 --> 00:06:07.401 — This is an experiment. 00:06:07.401 --> 00:06:08.599 — Really? 00:06:08.599 --> 00:06:10.941 — Let's see if it's successful. 00:06:13.994 --> 00:06:17.133 — They're so big, the issue is to grab them because... 00:06:17.133 --> 00:06:19.735 — No, but the size is good, it's actually very good. 00:06:21.900 --> 00:06:27.420 [Pedro Reyes] Other people may copy the idea, so you  hope that, in a way, you spark a trend. 00:06:28.547 --> 00:06:31.242 [violin music] 00:06:32.088 --> 00:06:36.026 — Camarada, I have a new idea for a manifesto. 00:06:37.673 --> 00:06:41.780 — Good, good, friend. What idea? 00:06:42.972 --> 00:06:46.582 — All that is solid melts into air. 00:06:46.582 --> 00:06:48.357 Hwahhh... 00:06:49.007 --> 00:06:51.189 — I don't know if that could happen. 00:06:51.660 --> 00:06:57.720 [Pedro Reyes] When I became a parent, I started to  see how my kids were feeding their mind, 00:06:58.320 --> 00:07:08.880 so I decided to do this puppet show where I could  present the political debate between, you know, 00:07:08.880 --> 00:07:10.860 capitalism and socialism, 00:07:10.860 --> 00:07:13.920 like Marx on one side or Adam Smith on the other. 00:07:14.440 --> 00:07:17.591 [Smith Puppet] And I have no cookie, and, therefore, 00:07:17.591 --> 00:07:19.738 you should give me your cookie. 00:07:19.738 --> 00:07:22.774 [Pedro Reyes] OK. Well, you're gonna fight over who eats the cookie 00:07:22.774 --> 00:07:27.787 but using these kind of, uh, ideological ideas. 00:07:27.787 --> 00:07:31.820 [Marx Puppet] Well, according to you, the capitalist, 00:07:31.820 --> 00:07:34.600 you should have bought a cookie 00:07:34.600 --> 00:07:37.506 so you would have ownership of the cookie, 00:07:37.506 --> 00:07:41.175 and then you would have the right to eat all of the cookie. 00:07:41.175 --> 00:07:43.366 [Smith Puppet] OK. Just give me the cookie. 00:07:43.366 --> 00:07:45.000 [Marx Puppet] You can't have my cookie. 00:07:45.000 --> 00:07:46.194 [Smith Puppet] Give me the cookie. 00:07:46.562 --> 00:07:48.812 [laughs] 00:07:51.000 --> 00:08:01.000 [Pedro Reyes] Mythology, mathematics, neurology,  pacifism, poetry, psychology. 00:08:01.740 --> 00:08:07.834 That's social sciences, feminism,  social justice, Latin America. 00:08:08.170 --> 00:08:11.093 I mean, like, I think that my library is like my brain. 00:08:14.820 --> 00:08:20.640 In any moment, one section of the library  becomes the raw material for a new series. 00:08:28.777 --> 00:08:34.080 For me, every year, I need to  move to a different planet... 00:08:36.660 --> 00:08:43.080 One big, new field of research that I start. 00:08:44.400 --> 00:08:52.920 It becomes an entire system of reading materials  and sculptures that will be made and a show. 00:08:56.193 --> 00:09:02.078 [strumming music] 00:09:07.128 --> 00:09:08.135 — All right. 00:09:09.720 --> 00:09:15.240 [Pedro Reyes]The People's United Nations, or pUN, is an idea that I had since I was a kid. 00:09:18.250 --> 00:09:19.509 — I did it. 00:09:20.376 --> 00:09:24.180 [Pedro Reyes] There's a comic strip made in  the Sixties called "Mafalda." 00:09:25.917 --> 00:09:29.400 She's saying, "Yes. When I grow up,  I'm gonna be an interpreter at the UN 00:09:30.120 --> 00:09:31.980 so when one delegate tells another, 00:09:31.980 --> 00:09:37.680 "Your country stinks," uh, I'm gonna translate, ''Oh, your country's charming,' 00:09:37.680 --> 00:09:41.228 and then, you know, 'I'm gonna avoid global war,' 00:09:41.820 --> 00:09:44.100 and then she looks at the planet and says, like, 00:09:44.100 --> 00:09:47.460 "Well, you have to promise you  will last until I grow up." 00:09:47.915 --> 00:09:50.000 [laughs] 00:09:50.000 --> 00:09:52.851 — On the count of 3. 1, 2, 3. 00:09:53.940 --> 00:09:57.720 [Pedro Reyes] Role-play is something that  is very much present in pUN. 00:09:58.634 --> 00:10:00.660 [indistinct conversation] 00:10:00.660 --> 00:10:05.520 The fact of being in character and the character  being that you're the delegate of your country 00:10:05.520 --> 00:10:09.180 makes this game very serious, 00:10:09.180 --> 00:10:13.860 and I love serious games.  I mean, I love serious fun. 00:10:14.501 --> 00:10:17.884 — So I'm from Mexico City. I've been living in California for 4 years. 00:10:17.884 --> 00:10:18.734 — Yeah. 00:10:19.211 --> 00:10:21.842 — I love my city. I love my country... 00:10:21.842 --> 00:10:22.347 — Yeah. 00:10:22.347 --> 00:10:25.561 — but it isn't like, people are scared. 00:10:25.561 --> 00:10:30.222 — "If you were the president or head of state of China, 00:10:30.601 --> 00:10:32.601 what change would you implement?" 00:10:32.834 --> 00:10:34.266 — In the past two years, 00:10:34.634 --> 00:10:36.890 two members of my family have been killed. 00:10:37.995 --> 00:10:45.000 — Remove the nationalistic component of a school curriculum. 00:10:45.672 --> 00:10:47.965 — We need to rise as citizens. 00:10:47.965 --> 00:10:49.878 We need to not just complain. 00:10:50.181 --> 00:10:51.158 — Super fun talking to you. 00:10:51.158 --> 00:10:53.158 — So fun talking to you, too. [laughs] 00:10:53.534 --> 00:10:56.077 [Pedro Reyes] That is why art is useful, 00:10:56.077 --> 00:10:59.801 because you can have this rehearsal space 00:11:00.126 --> 00:11:02.588 where you can play. 00:11:02.588 --> 00:11:04.454 [laughter and conversation] 00:11:04.454 --> 00:11:07.134 [Pedro Reyes] This workshop is called "pUN Times." 00:11:07.546 --> 00:11:12.457 Each of you say to the group something about your country, 00:11:12.457 --> 00:11:14.149 but it's, like, actually something 00:11:14.149 --> 00:11:16.665 that you don't like about your country, 00:11:16.968 --> 00:11:19.461 so we're gonna turn that negative thing 00:11:19.461 --> 00:11:25.817 into a positive headline of extremely optimist scenarios. 00:11:26.619 --> 00:11:28.054 [People murmur] 00:11:28.986 --> 00:11:31.499 — Hi. I'm the delegate from Venezuela, 00:11:31.499 --> 00:11:35.813 and when I shared my concerns about violence and crime 00:11:36.225 --> 00:11:40.999 in my country, the delegates of Germany, Australia, Yemen, 00:11:40.999 --> 00:11:45.400 and Paraguay, um, helped me think of a solution, 00:11:45.703 --> 00:11:49.757 so soon, the headline in the papers in Venezuela will be, 00:11:50.000 --> 00:11:55.251 "Mandatory Use of U-Turn Bullets in All Guns in the Country." 00:11:55.251 --> 00:11:57.251 [Laughter and applause] 00:11:57.511 --> 00:11:59.249 [Pedro Reyes] I love my life. 00:11:59.749 --> 00:12:00.522 [laughs] 00:12:00.522 --> 00:12:01.500 It's super fun. 00:12:02.085 --> 00:12:06.120 You're like a kid, and everybody  gets to do what you wish. 00:12:06.861 --> 00:12:09.261 I mean, in terms of "Oh, I have this one idea. Let's make it." "Yes," and it happens. 00:12:10.410 --> 00:12:11.550 It's amazing. 00:12:13.717 --> 00:12:15.431 [Cheering] 00:12:18.719 --> 00:12:22.007 [soft electronic music]