[Man] Quinze Minutes: the editors' reporting magazine [Woman] After the Lampedusa shipwreck, we carry on our inquiry into the causes of recent migrants' boats shipwrecks. Quinze Minutes magazine crossed the Mediterranean to meet NGOs, academics and families who inquire into the dramatic circumstances of Europe-bound migration. "Shipwrecks in the Mediterranean: who is guilty?" a reportage in Tunis by Alexandre Habay, edited by Sylvain Michel. [coast guard] Pronto? A che distanza siete da Lampedusa? (Listen, how far are you from Lampedusa) [shipwrecked man] [unclear - in Arabic?] [coast gard] Dove siete? (Where are you?) [shipwrecked man] [unclear - in Arabic?] [coast gard] Dove siete? (Where are you?) [shipwrecked man] [unclear - in Arabic?] [coast gard] Pronto? (Listen) [Alexandre Habay (?)] What we heard is a Mayday call made via cell phone by someone on the boat that got shipwrecked in front of Lampedusa on September 6, 2012. It's a Mayday call. It's really, really tragic to hear that. The caller's hopelessness perfectly comes through and unfortunately, this call is also rather unclear, actually. This is certainly one of the reasons why it was difficult for the Italian coast guards to immediately identify the position of the boat after this call, and this may have been a cause of the very shipwreck and of over 70 people's disappearance. This incident actually remains a mystery: over 50 people were rescued, about ten bodies were found but the other people were never found and thus it is not known whether they in fact survived or if the boat sank, as neither the wreck nor the other bodies were found. GSM coverage usually starts a few kilometers from coasts. So we know that this boat was very, very near Lampione when this Mayday call was made - and there were several such calls and several calls to passengers' families too. [music] [Charles Heller] So, my name is Charles Heller. I'm a reseracher at London University and I am presently here to support families and associations in reconstructing various sea incidents in order to understand what actually happened to all these missing or dead people: in fact, these families whom we shall meet are searching for the truth. [Imed Soltani] Well, I'm Imed Soltani. I've just founded this association called "La terre pour tous" (Earth for all). I'm Tunisian, an Arab and I have to work more than you because if your European children want to go to Tunisia or Algeria they can come without hassle. But as to us, if someone wants to go to the other side, they must die at sea. And there's this name, I can tell you this name There's the name of Mohamed El Himi, this one There's Husein ben Ahmed el Himi, there's Nebil el Gazueli, there's Ali ben Attar ben Bouli, There's Sadr ben Bouli, all these names, this Kerim ben Ourdi Mbarki, this one you see a third (check) -- this one is the land of Lampedusa. [Habay] So actually, you've enlarged pictures from Italian TV news and you try to identify these young boat people? [Soltani] Yes. Families have recognized these children. [Habay] Thus these young people, visibly, survived` Where are they now? Do you know where they are? Are they in touch with their families? Did it end w-- [Soltani] No, nobody, no contact with families. People who get into Lampedusa don't give their real name. They tell other names. Some people don't even want to give their fingerprints. [children's voices] [Habay] What are we looking at? [Man] This one is my brother, this one. [Habay] What's his name [Man] M'hamed Haboubi - Mohamed Haboub. [Habay] Yet there are -- well, the pictures is not very clear - yet there are many -- are you sure it's him? [Man] Yes, my brother: he's been living with me for 22 years. [Habay] And where do you think your brother is, now? [Man] I don't know, it's the province (?) -- we are trying to find where he is. [Habay] Because of course, if he'd safely reached Europe, he would have called you; are you expecting a call from him? [Man] Of course, but the Italian government made no declaration about these people. [Heller] Clearly, any time a relative is missing, the family can't help but imagining what their fate might be. And people in Switzerland whose relatives are missing go through the same experience our mindset can't help but imagining the worse as well as the best scripts thus I think that the first thing these families request is to know what happened to their relatives. [Habay] Thus you, Charles Heller, in this research you are doing, funded for instance by the Swiss national research fund, thus by what means do you try to reconstruct what happened at sea? Do you have technical means, for instance, do you conduct an inquiry? [Heller] Nowadays, incidents leave multiple traces: when there are survivors, their accounts, many migrants phone their families. Then there are all kinds of other elements that can be used, like satellite images, which can enable us to understand which boats, which ships were near a given boat. [Habay] So why are you trying to reconstruct this context, actualy? In order to identify responsibilities? [Heller] In the last 20 years, there have been over 14'000 deaths at the sea boarders, only of the Mediterranean. And these are only documented instances, so obviously, there have been many more and no one answers for these deaths. In 2011 there was a turning point with NATO's military intervention in Libya, and with the shared feeling of many associations, who said: "But there has been a record number of deaths this year in central Mediterranea whereas over 40 NATO ships are deployed in front of Libyan coasts, precisely in the area where these deaths happened." And in this context, we made an inquiry about a ship that left Tripoli on March 27, 2011 and after barely 24 hours, was in distress with no more fuel. It drifted for 14 days in the area monitored by NATO which, again, was probably, at that time, the most monitored sea area in the world. Italian and Maltese authorities, NATO, all new about their distress. In spite of the fact that there had been two visits by an helicopter marked "army", and when half the people on board were already dead, passengers drifted near a big army ship whose crew just photographed them before abandoning them to their fate. In the end, only 9 out of the 72 passengers survived. The report we wrote about this tragedy, this shipwreck was the basis for a claim filed against the various states involved in the Libya operation. This is the first attempt to identify who is directly answerable for these deaths beyond, again the deep political responsibility of the European Union and of the Southern Mediterranean sates. And we also try to make inquiries about other shipwrecks that happened. We are closely following incidents that happened in Lampedusa in recent days. [Voices in Arabic] [Habay or Heller?] So we are in Gebel Achmad, a very lower class neighborhood of Tunis from which about twenty boys left on the boat whose Mayday call we heard. We're going to meet families who are still wondering what happened on that day. [Voices in Arabic] [Bensmida] My name is Mohamed Bensmida. I am the father of Ahmed Bensmida who was shipwrecked on September 6, 2012 [words in arabic] 17 year old. [Interpreter] His son is 17 year old and he wanted to do as his friends from this neighborhood, so, in order to better and change his life, he suddenly left. [Bensmida ?] The agent... [Habay?] 136 people on board? [Bensmida ?] Yes. That's when they arrived, 80 amesh, missing. [Habay] What happened? Does one know? [Bensmida] They say that they are, maneh, that the boat got broken, but [continues in Arabic] [Interpreter] The script becomes unclear after that. [Interpreter + Bensmida in Arabic] They are not convinced of what really happened. His son's friends say that they saw his son swimming, in front of them. And as night fell, they didn't see him afterwards. It's ironic that a pregnant woman can reach the coast swimming and that others haven't - well, that they died. [Bensmida ?] It isn't true. I'd like to have more explanations. [Habay] If he'd managed to reach Italy, you would have heard from him, or was he registered by authorities? [Interpreter + Bensmida in Arabic] He says they live in a delusion because they've heard that some people reached the shore, then some are in prison. What's sickening is the delusion and vagueness.