[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:04.40,0:00:07.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, we can start talking about your Dialogue: 0,0:00:07.40,0:00:10.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,family's story during the genocide. Dialogue: 0,0:00:10.80,0:00:14.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My ancestors, my grandpa and grandma Dialogue: 0,0:00:14.80,0:00:21.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in 1915, my mom's side was from Marash Dialogue: 0,0:00:21.66,0:00:25.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and my dad's side was from Boursa. Dialogue: 0,0:00:25.74,0:00:29.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My mother and father were born and raised Dialogue: 0,0:00:29.44,0:00:31.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Aleppo. Dialogue: 0,0:00:31.48,0:00:33.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like them, I was born in the Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.79,0:00:35.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,same city. Dialogue: 0,0:00:35.91,0:00:39.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I went to school in that city. My entire Dialogue: 0,0:00:39.29,0:00:42.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,childhood was spent there. Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.50,0:00:45.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I went to school in Aleppo and had a good Dialogue: 0,0:00:45.50,0:00:48.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,environment. I have also been Dialogue: 0,0:00:48.36,0:00:50.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an Armenian language teacher. Dialogue: 0,0:00:50.98,0:00:54.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have left all my friends in Aleppo Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.78,0:00:56.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and came to Yerevan. Dialogue: 0,0:00:56.98,0:01:00.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you know how your grandparents came Dialogue: 0,0:01:00.80,0:01:03.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to Turkey and to Syria? Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.63,0:01:06.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is not really clear how my family Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.68,0:01:08.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from Marash came... Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.05,0:01:10.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In 1915, they must have joined the other Dialogue: 0,0:01:10.79,0:01:13.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Armenians that fled the country and went Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.46,0:01:15.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to an orphanage in Aleppo. Dialogue: 0,0:01:15.63,0:01:19.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In that orphanage, they introduced them Dialogue: 0,0:01:19.61,0:01:25.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to my grandmother and grandfather. Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.40,0:01:27.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then, they got married. Dialogue: 0,0:01:27.78,0:01:29.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On my dad's side, the same Dialogue: 0,0:01:29.95,0:01:32.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thing happened. They were also raised Dialogue: 0,0:01:32.60,0:01:34.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in an orphanage. Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.25,0:01:38.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My grandparents met one another there Dialogue: 0,0:01:38.64,0:01:41.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and got married. Dialogue: 0,0:01:41.30,0:01:47.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you know what they did for work? Dialogue: 0,0:01:47.42,0:01:51.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I do not know where they used to work Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.42,0:01:53.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,during that time. Dialogue: 0,0:01:53.82,0:01:58.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On my dad's side, they owned some land Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.95,0:02:02.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and agricultural properties. Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.12,0:02:04.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On my mom's side, it is a bit harder Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.98,0:02:07.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to know. My family goes back many Dialogue: 0,0:02:07.34,0:02:09.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,generations and it's hard to know Dialogue: 0,0:02:09.53,0:02:11.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where they worked. Dialogue: 0,0:02:11.13,0:02:16.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My grandpa was a mechanic. Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.35,0:02:20.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What else should I say? Dialogue: 0,0:02:22.49,0:02:25.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you know how hard it was to start Dialogue: 0,0:02:25.11,0:02:29.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their life again in Aleppo after the war? Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.83,0:02:32.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What difficulties did they face? Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.38,0:02:35.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, they did go through tough times Dialogue: 0,0:02:35.15,0:02:37.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,during the war. Dialogue: 0,0:02:37.09,0:02:39.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Firstly, they have lived in metal Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.95,0:02:43.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,shacks. They are called metal shacks Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.45,0:02:47.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for Armenians. In Arabic, they say Dialogue: 0,0:02:47.44,0:02:49.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,berakatl Armen. Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.57,0:02:52.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Secondly, the Armenians missed having Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.43,0:02:55.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a home and moved into their own houses. Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.07,0:02:58.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Life started to improve and as soon as we Dialogue: 0,0:02:58.08,0:03:03.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,came to Aleppo or Syria in general... Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.34,0:03:05.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we had some Armenian churches. Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.83,0:03:08.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Next to the churches, we had Armenian Dialogue: 0,0:03:08.29,0:03:10.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,schools. In the beginning, we have had Dialogue: 0,0:03:10.48,0:03:12.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,year-around schools. The population were Dialogue: 0,0:03:12.78,0:03:14.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all Turkish speakers. Dialogue: 0,0:03:14.66,0:03:17.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Since it was mandatory, they spoke Turkish Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.73,0:03:19.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for 500 years. Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.33,0:03:21.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When they came to Aleppo, due to the Dialogue: 0,0:03:21.65,0:03:24.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Armenian schools they attended, the Dialogue: 0,0:03:24.33,0:03:26.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people became more and more Armenian. Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.94,0:03:28.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They started teaching Armenian. Dialogue: 0,0:03:28.57,0:03:30.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,From generation to generation, Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.15,0:03:32.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we feel more Armenian since we speak Dialogue: 0,0:03:32.05,0:03:34.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Armenian and have Armenian schools. Dialogue: 0,0:03:34.20,0:03:36.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We also have Armenian Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.56,0:03:39.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the secondary level. Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.52,0:03:44.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In Aleppo, what do you do to remember Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.85,0:03:48.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the 1915 genocide and April 24th? Dialogue: 0,0:03:48.19,0:03:51.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On the morning of April 24th, we go to Dialogue: 0,0:03:51.38,0:03:54.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the cemetery and gather around the chapel Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.88,0:03:57.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to remember those that we lost by praying Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.81,0:03:59.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and by lighting candles. Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.78,0:04:02.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,During that time and on some days, Dialogue: 0,0:04:02.55,0:04:06.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lectures took place in the Armenian Dialogue: 0,0:04:06.25,0:04:09.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,community centers. Dialogue: 0,0:04:10.77,0:04:13.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,From generation to generation, Dialogue: 0,0:04:13.07,0:04:15.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we continue to remember and to not forget Dialogue: 0,0:04:15.70,0:04:17.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we have a problem with keeping Dialogue: 0,0:04:17.96,0:04:20.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our Armenianhood. It is not only about Dialogue: 0,0:04:20.11,0:04:22.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,April 24th. It is not about tears. Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.29,0:04:24.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Armenians do get sad and emotional Dialogue: 0,0:04:24.54,0:04:27.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about what happened to our people. Dialogue: 0,0:04:27.54,0:04:31.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have been reborn and are Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.31,0:04:35.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,still living. We are still here. They said Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.89,0:04:38.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they are going to kill every Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.81,0:04:42.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Armenian and leave one. They are going to Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.41,0:04:45.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,put that person in a museum. They did not Dialogue: 0,0:04:45.46,0:04:49.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,succeed in doing that. Because of that, Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.21,0:04:52.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,April 24th is a time of sorrow Dialogue: 0,0:04:52.40,0:04:56.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for us. At the same time, it is Dialogue: 0,0:04:56.09,0:04:58.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a victory for the Armenian people. Dialogue: 0,0:04:58.88,0:05:01.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are still present. We are still here. Dialogue: 0,0:05:01.84,0:05:04.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We still have demands and want restitution Dialogue: 0,0:05:04.75,0:05:06.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from them. We are not sleeping. Dialogue: 0,0:05:06.70,0:05:07.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are awake. Dialogue: 0,0:05:07.87,0:05:10.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,From generation to generation, we teach Dialogue: 0,0:05:10.38,0:05:13.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,them Armenian heritage and spirit with Dialogue: 0,0:05:13.07,0:05:15.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the help of our cultural organizations. Dialogue: 0,0:05:15.85,0:05:17.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,With that, we prepare the next Dialogue: 0,0:05:17.100,0:05:19.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,generation of Armenians. Dialogue: 0,0:05:19.68,0:05:20.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is great. Dialogue: 0,0:05:20.76,0:05:23.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tell me a bit about your childhood. Dialogue: 0,0:05:23.67,0:05:26.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My childhood... I was really happy. Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.35,0:05:29.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where were you raised? Aleppo! Aleppo! Dialogue: 0,0:05:29.48,0:05:31.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was born in Aleppo. In which neighborhood? Dialogue: 0,0:05:31.88,0:05:35.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sulaymaniyah! I was born in Aleppo Dialogue: 0,0:05:35.05,0:05:37.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and grew up there in the same house. Dialogue: 0,0:05:37.54,0:05:40.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My house is still luckily there. Dialogue: 0,0:05:41.95,0:05:44.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had a good childhood and was very happy. Dialogue: 0,0:05:44.93,0:05:48.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I always had a good life... always. Dialogue: 0,0:05:48.10,0:05:52.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which school did you attend? Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.10,0:05:56.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I went to Lazar Najarian. I attended that Dialogue: 0,0:05:56.57,0:06:01.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,school. I graduated in 1984. In terms of Dialogue: 0,0:06:01.38,0:06:04.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the different community centers, I do not Dialogue: 0,0:06:04.87,0:06:10.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,want to make a distinction between them. Dialogue: 0,0:06:10.39,0:06:14.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All of the community centers do their work Dialogue: 0,0:06:14.04,0:06:16.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in their own way and follow different Dialogue: 0,0:06:16.90,0:06:19.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,principles. The goal that they all share Dialogue: 0,0:06:19.72,0:06:21.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is Armenians keeping their Dialogue: 0,0:06:21.37,0:06:23.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Armenianhood in the Diaspora. Dialogue: 0,0:06:23.70,0:06:26.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We used to go to the theater with my Dialogue: 0,0:06:26.19,0:06:29.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,family. We did not have the choice to Dialogue: 0,0:06:29.52,0:06:33.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,go to one and not the other. Dialogue: 0,0:06:33.91,0:06:37.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,May it be a theater performance or Dialogue: 0,0:06:37.09,0:06:41.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a literary evening, we have attended most Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.67,0:06:45.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of them. I have been part of the scouting Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.57,0:06:49.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ranks for a few years (for a short time). Dialogue: 0,0:06:49.22,0:06:51.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was one of the most beautiful years Dialogue: 0,0:06:51.83,0:06:53.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of my life. Dialogue: 0,0:06:57.20,0:07:00.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Until when did you go to school? Dialogue: 0,0:07:00.88,0:07:03.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I graduated with the 1984 class. Dialogue: 0,0:07:03.29,0:07:04.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,High school Dialogue: 0,0:07:04.90,0:07:06.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After you said... Dialogue: 0,0:07:06.47,0:07:08.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After that, I studied Armenian Studies . Dialogue: 0,0:07:08.85,0:07:12.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In university?\N-Hamazkayin had opened Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.96,0:07:16.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their own Armenian Studies department. Dialogue: 0,0:07:16.83,0:07:19.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A very long time ago, I went to Dialogue: 0,0:07:19.59,0:07:22.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the British Council. Dialogue: 0,0:07:25.64,0:07:28.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What kind of work did you do? Dialogue: 0,0:07:28.19,0:07:31.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have been an Armenian language teacher. Dialogue: 0,0:07:31.13,0:07:34.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And... when you were an Armenian teacher, Dialogue: 0,0:07:34.47,0:07:37.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,did you think that it was Dialogue: 0,0:07:37.02,0:07:40.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your responsibility to teach them Dialogue: 0,0:07:40.20,0:07:43.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the language and about their culture? Dialogue: 0,0:07:43.79,0:07:46.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, it is important to know about Dialogue: 0,0:07:46.21,0:07:49.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their culture. To teach Armenians the Dialogue: 0,0:07:49.12,0:07:52.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Armenian language is a big responsibility Dialogue: 0,0:07:52.53,0:07:54.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the Diaspora. Dialogue: 0,0:07:54.40,0:07:56.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Our teaching is not limited to learning Dialogue: 0,0:07:56.98,0:07:59.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how to read and write and studying grammar Dialogue: 0,0:07:59.72,0:08:02.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and literature. It is also to teach them Dialogue: 0,0:08:02.46,0:08:04.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Armenian values by introducing Dialogue: 0,0:08:04.92,0:08:08.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the students to Armenian symbols in order to Dialogue: 0,0:08:08.12,0:08:11.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,make them feel a sense of belonging Dialogue: 0,0:08:11.03,0:08:13.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the Armenian culture. Dialogue: 0,0:08:13.34,0:08:15.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If someone asks them Dialogue: 0,0:08:15.34,0:08:16.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about who they are Dialogue: 0,0:08:16.87,0:08:18.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they would say Armenian. Dialogue: 0,0:08:18.45,0:08:20.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"What does it mean to be an Armenian?" Dialogue: 0,0:08:20.62,0:08:22.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They should be able to say that Dialogue: 0,0:08:22.73,0:08:24.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Armenians are the group of people that Dialogue: 0,0:08:24.81,0:08:27.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lived during the times of Dikran Medz Dialogue: 0,0:08:27.08,0:08:29.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a long time ago. We have been a prominent Dialogue: 0,0:08:29.80,0:08:33.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nation from sea to sea. We have had some Dialogue: 0,0:08:33.16,0:08:36.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well-known Armenians like Viktor Ambartsumian Dialogue: 0,0:08:36.25,0:08:38.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Aram Khachaturian. Dialogue: 0,0:08:38.25,0:08:40.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have had many famous personalities. Dialogue: 0,0:08:40.95,0:08:43.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It would be hard to count them all. Dialogue: 0,0:08:43.54,0:08:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We should remember the individuals that Dialogue: 0,0:08:46.00,0:08:48.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fought for our people and be proud of all Dialogue: 0,0:08:48.35,0:08:50.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the things they have done for us. Dialogue: 0,0:08:50.86,0:08:53.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have to tell the new generation Dialogue: 0,0:08:53.45,0:08:55.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about this. So, they hear and know Dialogue: 0,0:08:55.81,0:08:58.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what is being an Armenian and feel Dialogue: 0,0:08:58.79,0:09:01.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a sense of belongingness. Dialogue: 0,0:09:01.64,0:09:05.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Only speaking Armenian is not enough. Dialogue: 0,0:09:05.70,0:09:08.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And which school? Dialogue: 0,0:09:08.96,0:09:11.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was at Zvartnots Primary School. Dialogue: 0,0:09:11.36,0:09:16.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And... do you think that the students Dialogue: 0,0:09:16.14,0:09:20.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are interested in this subject matter? Dialogue: 0,0:09:20.20,0:09:22.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The teacher is the person that should Dialogue: 0,0:09:22.23,0:09:24.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,make them interested in it. Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.07,0:09:26.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They say that learning about literature Dialogue: 0,0:09:26.32,0:09:28.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can be boring, but it is not like that. Dialogue: 0,0:09:28.69,0:09:32.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The teacher can get them interested in our Dialogue: 0,0:09:32.17,0:09:36.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,culture, because our culture is very Dialogue: 0,0:09:36.11,0:09:39.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,beautiful. You can make it more Dialogue: 0,0:09:39.43,0:09:42.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interesting for the students by making Dialogue: 0,0:09:42.06,0:09:44.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,them relate to the subject. Dialogue: 0,0:09:44.95,0:09:48.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I did all the work. I do not know how much Dialogue: 0,0:09:48.03,0:09:50.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I succeeded in that since I have only Dialogue: 0,0:09:50.73,0:09:53.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,worked for 10 years. Before that, I worked Dialogue: 0,0:09:53.69,0:09:56.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the English language... Dialogue: 0,0:09:56.32,0:09:59.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not with Armenians. Dialogue: 0,0:09:59.54,0:10:04.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you were an Armenian teacher, did you Dialogue: 0,0:10:04.18,0:10:07.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,feel free in Syria to say anything in Dialogue: 0,0:10:07.85,0:10:12.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,school or about what the government allows Dialogue: 0,0:10:12.89,0:10:15.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what it does not? Dialogue: 0,0:10:15.83,0:10:20.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We had permission for 4 hours per week Dialogue: 0,0:10:20.09,0:10:24.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to teach the Armenian language Dialogue: 0,0:10:24.41,0:10:28.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Armenian schools and 2 hours Dialogue: 0,0:10:28.05,0:10:30.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to teach religion. Dialogue: 0,0:10:30.13,0:10:34.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We were free. We had Armenian language Dialogue: 0,0:10:34.48,0:10:37.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and religion books. Dialogue: 0,0:10:37.48,0:10:40.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We had no restrictions. Dialogue: 0,0:10:40.24,0:10:41.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have been very free. Dialogue: 0,0:10:41.95,0:10:44.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have also had our own printing press Dialogue: 0,0:10:44.43,0:10:47.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and our newspapers and printed books Dialogue: 0,0:10:47.34,0:10:50.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Armenian. We would easily receive Dialogue: 0,0:10:50.07,0:10:52.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,permission to print from the Syrian Dialogue: 0,0:10:52.57,0:10:55.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,government. Until the time that we did not Dialogue: 0,0:10:55.10,0:10:57.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,make a mistake and say and/or write Dialogue: 0,0:10:57.76,0:11:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something wrong about the government Dialogue: 0,0:11:00.00,0:11:02.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or against religion, we could print Dialogue: 0,0:11:02.72,0:11:05.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anything. It was a positive thing to be Dialogue: 0,0:11:05.78,0:11:08.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an Armenian in Syria. As a minority, Dialogue: 0,0:11:08.14,0:11:09.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we had many rights. Dialogue: 0,0:11:09.82,0:11:13.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everyone was equal. Everyone was equal. Dialogue: 0,0:11:13.63,0:11:16.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Arabs, the Armenians, the Assyrians, Dialogue: 0,0:11:16.75,0:11:19.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the Kurds, all had equal rights. Dialogue: 0,0:11:19.53,0:11:24.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Unlike some other minorities, we had Dialogue: 0,0:11:24.28,0:11:27.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,schools, the printing press, theaters, Dialogue: 0,0:11:27.29,0:11:31.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and scouting ranks. We had all the rights. Dialogue: 0,0:11:31.86,0:11:34.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We were never treated differently Dialogue: 0,0:11:34.51,0:11:38.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by the government... not by our last prime Dialogue: 0,0:11:38.22,0:11:41.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,minister and not by the current one. Dialogue: 0,0:11:41.91,0:11:45.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Did you experience any difficulty? Dialogue: 0,0:11:45.73,0:11:48.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know you said that the government did Dialogue: 0,0:11:48.86,0:11:51.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not cause any difficulty. Did the people? Dialogue: 0,0:11:51.94,0:11:55.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The people? No, they were very respectful Dialogue: 0,0:11:55.59,0:11:58.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in regards to us. The Arabs were very Dialogue: 0,0:11:58.90,0:12:02.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,respectful towards us. All of us have had Dialogue: 0,0:12:02.20,0:12:04.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,friendships. We all have had good Dialogue: 0,0:12:04.94,0:12:07.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and honest friends. We have never been Dialogue: 0,0:12:07.71,0:12:09.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,told you are Armenian... Dialogue: 0,0:12:09.51,0:12:11.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why do you live here? Dialogue: 0,0:12:11.36,0:12:13.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You should go back to Armenia. They have Dialogue: 0,0:12:13.97,0:12:16.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,never said that. On the contrary, Dialogue: 0,0:12:16.13,0:12:21.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they were happy with us. The Arab culture Dialogue: 0,0:12:21.18,0:12:24.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has always shown respect to the Armenian people. Dialogue: 0,0:12:24.71,0:12:28.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you see a difference between Dialogue: 0,0:12:28.33,0:12:32.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Armenians and non-Armenians in terms Dialogue: 0,0:12:32.21,0:12:34.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of how they were treated? A difference? Dialogue: 0,0:12:34.66,0:12:39.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All Syrians are one. There could not be Dialogue: 0,0:12:39.11,0:12:42.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,any difference between them. As Syrians, Dialogue: 0,0:12:42.02,0:12:45.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we were equal. We had not noticed any Dialogue: 0,0:12:45.60,0:12:49.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,difference. When there were religious Dialogue: 0,0:12:49.42,0:12:54.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,events, like Easter or other holidays, Dialogue: 0,0:12:54.14,0:12:57.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we would celebrate them differently Dialogue: 0,0:12:57.50,0:12:59.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than others since we were Christian. Dialogue: 0,0:12:59.92,0:13:05.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In general! In general, we were one. Dialogue: 0,0:13:05.06,0:13:06.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was no difference Dialogue: 0,0:13:06.81,0:13:08.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between us. On the contrary, Dialogue: 0,0:13:08.42,0:13:11.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we would visit each other. They would Dialogue: 0,0:13:11.02,0:13:13.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,visit us during the holidays. We would Dialogue: 0,0:13:13.30,0:13:16.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,visit them and wish them happy holidays. Dialogue: 0,0:13:16.05,0:13:19.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have never felt any difference. Dialogue: 0,0:13:19.57,0:13:22.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you got older (apart from work), Dialogue: 0,0:13:22.71,0:13:25.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what would you do in your life? Dialogue: 0,0:13:25.98,0:13:31.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had a strong social life. Strong social life! Dialogue: 0,0:13:31.70,0:13:36.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I like having friends. I have gone to Dialogue: 0,0:13:36.00,0:13:38.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a lot of places with my brother like Dialogue: 0,0:13:38.78,0:13:41.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,historical castles and other antiquities. Dialogue: 0,0:13:41.96,0:13:44.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Syria is a rich country with its Dialogue: 0,0:13:44.16,0:13:46.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,historical sites. If you have heard of Dialogue: 0,0:13:46.68,0:13:50.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the city of Palmyra, it is very known. Dialogue: 0,0:13:50.50,0:13:53.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I visited a lot of ancient places in Syria with my brother. Dialogue: 0,0:13:53.64,0:13:55.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you want Dialogue: 0,0:13:55.66,0:13:58.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to explain anything from your life Dialogue: 0,0:13:58.28,0:13:59.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,before the war? Dialogue: 0,0:13:59.92,0:14:02.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Before the war, I do not have anything Dialogue: 0,0:14:02.14,0:14:04.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,specific to talk about. I already said Dialogue: 0,0:14:04.14,0:14:06.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everything. I talked about the type Dialogue: 0,0:14:06.14,0:14:08.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of life we had... a good and happy life. Dialogue: 0,0:14:08.58,0:14:11.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Difficulties! We cannot call it Dialogue: 0,0:14:11.12,0:14:14.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,difficulties. These are normal Dialogue: 0,0:14:14.20,0:14:16.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,difficulties that we have overcome Dialogue: 0,0:14:16.82,0:14:21.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in life. Before the war, it was very good. Dialogue: 0,0:14:21.18,0:14:23.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After the war, however, everything changed. Dialogue: 0,0:14:23.72,0:14:28.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Before 2011, were there Dialogue: 0,0:14:28.74,0:14:32.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,any signs that a war was going to Dialogue: 0,0:14:32.30,0:14:34.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,start soon? Dialogue: 0,0:14:34.12,0:14:38.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For the most part, there were signs. Dialogue: 0,0:14:38.56,0:14:42.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Things happened. Some governments Dialogue: 0,0:14:42.36,0:14:44.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,threatened others. Dialogue: 0,0:14:44.82,0:14:47.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Middle Eastern countries have Dialogue: 0,0:14:47.42,0:14:50.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,always been in danger. The worry about Dialogue: 0,0:14:50.72,0:14:53.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a war starting has always been there. Dialogue: 0,0:14:53.44,0:14:56.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But until the last minute, you cannot know Dialogue: 0,0:14:56.20,0:14:58.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that for sure a war will take place. Dialogue: 0,0:14:58.40,0:15:00.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe, they will come to an agreement. Dialogue: 0,0:15:00.82,0:15:03.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You will get convinced of that and will Dialogue: 0,0:15:03.32,0:15:06.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,always have hope that it will not happen. Dialogue: 0,0:15:06.70,0:15:11.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When did you know the war in Syria Dialogue: 0,0:15:11.04,0:15:15.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had started? What were the first signs? Dialogue: 0,0:15:15.90,0:15:17.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the beginning, it started at Dialogue: 0,0:15:17.98,0:15:20.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the outskirts. We heard the sounds. Dialogue: 0,0:15:20.50,0:15:24.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I visited Armenia for 2 months. I was Dialogue: 0,0:15:24.62,0:15:28.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going to return to Aleppo. They came Dialogue: 0,0:15:28.14,0:15:30.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and took over the city. Dialogue: 0,0:15:30.18,0:15:32.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I stayed here for a while. A lot Dialogue: 0,0:15:32.76,0:15:35.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of people came from Aleppo. They came Dialogue: 0,0:15:35.68,0:15:41.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in 2012 in August and September. It was Dialogue: 0,0:15:41.16,0:15:45.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,during that time. I stayed here too. Then, Dialogue: 0,0:15:45.32,0:15:48.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there were people that returned to Aleppo. Dialogue: 0,0:15:48.32,0:15:50.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,During New Year's Day, I returned too. Dialogue: 0,0:15:50.48,0:15:53.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I stayed there for 6 months. Then, I went Dialogue: 0,0:15:53.74,0:15:58.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,back. In June 2013, I came back to Dialogue: 0,0:15:58.70,0:16:01.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Armenia. I came back here. Dialogue: 0,0:16:01.68,0:16:06.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you traveled from Syria Dialogue: 0,0:16:06.18,0:16:08.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to Armenia and from Armenia to Syria... how was it? Dialogue: 0,0:16:08.62,0:16:11.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The first time, I came here on Dialogue: 0,0:16:11.08,0:16:13.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an airplane and returned the same way. Dialogue: 0,0:16:13.78,0:16:18.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The second time, I came with a car. Dialogue: 0,0:16:18.54,0:16:21.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We came on our own. We passed Dialogue: 0,0:16:21.06,0:16:23.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Turkish border and went to Georgia Dialogue: 0,0:16:23.94,0:16:25.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and after Armenia. Dialogue: 0,0:16:25.42,0:16:26.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Any difficulties? Dialogue: 0,0:16:26.42,0:16:28.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Of course, there were going to be some Dialogue: 0,0:16:28.78,0:16:31.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,difficulties. It was evident that we were Dialogue: 0,0:16:31.06,0:16:32.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going to have some difficulties. Dialogue: 0,0:16:32.76,0:16:35.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We left illegally. So, we were going Dialogue: 0,0:16:35.06,0:16:37.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to face some difficulties. Dialogue: 0,0:16:37.14,0:16:40.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The 6 months that you were in Syria... Dialogue: 0,0:16:40.38,0:16:43.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes. What state was Aleppo in? Dialogue: 0,0:16:43.14,0:16:45.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was really bad. It was really bad. Dialogue: 0,0:16:45.08,0:16:46.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was no electricity. Dialogue: 0,0:16:46.90,0:16:48.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was no water. Dialogue: 0,0:16:48.65,0:16:49.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Excuse me. Dialogue: 0,0:16:49.50,0:16:51.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, there was in the beginning. Dialogue: 0,0:16:51.82,0:16:52.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After... Dialogue: 0,0:16:52.98,0:16:56.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Always, there was the fear of death. Dialogue: 0,0:16:56.98,0:17:00.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was not the fear of death per se, but Dialogue: 0,0:17:00.16,0:17:02.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the way that someone was going to die. Dialogue: 0,0:17:02.68,0:17:04.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was the violent depictions displayed Dialogue: 0,0:17:04.64,0:17:08.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in videos and photos on YouTube. Dialogue: 0,0:17:08.12,0:17:10.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,More than death, you would worry about Dialogue: 0,0:17:10.52,0:17:12.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the way you were going to die. Dialogue: 0,0:17:12.56,0:17:14.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You always heard the people Dialogue: 0,0:17:14.62,0:17:16.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the sound of bombs. Dialogue: 0,0:17:16.26,0:17:18.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At night, it would get worse. Dialogue: 0,0:17:18.18,0:17:20.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the morning, it would be less. Dialogue: 0,0:17:20.86,0:17:23.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And why? I turned back, Dialogue: 0,0:17:23.92,0:17:26.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it was safer. Dialogue: 0,0:17:26.32,0:17:28.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I came back to Armenia, because it was safer. Dialogue: 0,0:17:28.90,0:17:32.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why did you go back Dialogue: 0,0:17:32.42,0:17:35.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to Armenia and then Syria? Dialogue: 0,0:17:35.12,0:17:40.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I went to Syria. My brother was in Syria. Dialogue: 0,0:17:40.52,0:17:45.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We were going to celebrate New Year's. Dialogue: 0,0:17:45.32,0:17:48.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We had no one there. We did not want Dialogue: 0,0:17:48.62,0:17:50.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my brother to be alone. Dialogue: 0,0:17:50.34,0:17:52.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am here. He is there. Dialogue: 0,0:17:52.62,0:17:55.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I took the risk. I did not want to... Dialogue: 0,0:17:55.40,0:17:57.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In this world, he only has me Dialogue: 0,0:17:57.30,0:17:59.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I only have him. Dialogue: 0,0:17:59.48,0:18:01.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is how I went there. Dialogue: 0,0:18:01.62,0:18:04.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then, we came here together. Dialogue: 0,0:18:04.44,0:18:09.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And... are the other families still in Aleppo? Dialogue: 0,0:18:09.12,0:18:12.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I do not have a mom and a dad. Dialogue: 0,0:18:12.84,0:18:16.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Other family members? My mom and my dad Dialogue: 0,0:18:16.02,0:18:19.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have already passed away. My brother... Dialogue: 0,0:18:19.44,0:18:22.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Before the war? Dialogue: 0,0:18:22.66,0:18:26.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My mom died before the war due to an illness. Dialogue: 0,0:18:26.56,0:18:30.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My dad died long before that. Dialogue: 0,0:18:32.08,0:18:38.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And... the first time you went to Armenia? Dialogue: 0,0:18:38.34,0:18:41.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Was that the first time that you went to Armenia? Dialogue: 0,0:18:41.60,0:18:45.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I came here in 2004 with other Dialogue: 0,0:18:45.14,0:18:47.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,teachers for training purposes Dialogue: 0,0:18:47.74,0:18:50.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for 1 month. I was in love with Armenia. Dialogue: 0,0:18:50.68,0:18:54.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had left my soul here. I wanted to Dialogue: 0,0:18:54.18,0:18:58.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,live in Armenia. We had decided with Dialogue: 0,0:18:58.18,0:19:02.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the family to live here. My brother would Dialogue: 0,0:19:02.18,0:19:06.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,come when he had breaks. Dialogue: 0,0:19:06.18,0:19:09.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He would say that we should live here Dialogue: 0,0:19:09.84,0:19:12.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and go back later. We said that it is Dialogue: 0,0:19:12.14,0:19:14.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hard. We already have good jobs Dialogue: 0,0:19:14.54,0:19:16.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,back home. Dialogue: 0,0:19:16.08,0:19:18.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And yes, we came. Dialogue: 0,0:19:18.32,0:19:23.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Did you come in 2012? Dialogue: 0,0:19:23.02,0:19:25.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The last time was in 2013. Dialogue: 0,0:19:25.52,0:19:28.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the first time in 2012? Yes, 2012. Dialogue: 0,0:19:28.44,0:19:30.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The first first time was in 2004. 2004! Dialogue: 0,0:19:30.74,0:19:32.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The second one was in 2012. Dialogue: 0,0:19:32.96,0:19:36.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How was your new life? How did you feel Dialogue: 0,0:19:36.90,0:19:39.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Armenia? How was life there? Dialogue: 0,0:19:39.20,0:19:41.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What were the difficulties? Dialogue: 0,0:19:41.06,0:19:44.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,2012? Yes! You mean the differences Dialogue: 0,0:19:44.14,0:19:45.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in 2004, right? Dialogue: 0,0:19:45.58,0:19:48.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, no, Not the differences. Dialogue: 0,0:19:48.50,0:19:52.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You said that you went in 2012 just Dialogue: 0,0:19:52.00,0:19:54.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to visit and you ended up staying Dialogue: 0,0:19:54.62,0:19:57.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,here after. How was it during that time? Dialogue: 0,0:19:57.26,0:20:00.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Living here is different. Visiting is Dialogue: 0,0:20:00.76,0:20:02.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,different too. Dialogue: 0,0:20:02.98,0:20:05.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Living here is very difficult. You really Dialogue: 0,0:20:05.76,0:20:08.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have to have a good job to live here. Dialogue: 0,0:20:08.60,0:20:13.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And... when you decided that I visited Dialogue: 0,0:20:13.58,0:20:16.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and now I want to live here, did anyone Dialogue: 0,0:20:16.58,0:20:18.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,help you with where to live? Dialogue: 0,0:20:18.96,0:20:20.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or how to find a job? Dialogue: 0,0:20:20.92,0:20:27.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No! How to help? I stayed in Echmiadzin. Dialogue: 0,0:20:27.02,0:20:30.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The people were really great. I have had Dialogue: 0,0:20:30.68,0:20:34.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,neighbours... as soon as I moved to Dialogue: 0,0:20:34.54,0:20:37.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a house, they always came to ask Dialogue: 0,0:20:37.18,0:20:38.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if I needed anything. Dialogue: 0,0:20:38.72,0:20:42.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If I said, yes, I need something. Dialogue: 0,0:20:42.22,0:20:44.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They have offered pots, pans, blankets, Dialogue: 0,0:20:44.88,0:20:46.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pillows, and clothing. Dialogue: 0,0:20:46.36,0:20:48.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If I said, yes, I need something. Dialogue: 0,0:20:48.36,0:20:50.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would most probably have rooms Dialogue: 0,0:20:50.72,0:20:52.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,full of pots and pans and blankets. Dialogue: 0,0:20:52.48,0:20:55.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The community always offered to help. Dialogue: 0,0:20:55.70,0:20:58.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We were always treated well. Dialogue: 0,0:20:58.96,0:21:01.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Children yelling in background] \NChildren? Yes! Dialogue: 0,0:21:01.48,0:21:05.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have received help from Mission Dialogue: 0,0:21:05.38,0:21:08.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Armenia, and they helped pay my rent. Dialogue: 0,0:21:08.56,0:21:11.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have also received books Dialogue: 0,0:21:11.44,0:21:14.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the Red Cross (and that is Dialogue: 0,0:21:14.80,0:21:17.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,worth mentioning as well). Dialogue: 0,0:21:17.80,0:21:21.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is another organization Dialogue: 0,0:21:21.36,0:21:25.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,called UN in English. Dialogue: 0,0:21:25.38,0:21:29.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are always willing and continue to Dialogue: 0,0:21:29.06,0:21:32.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,help us. We also have Syrian centers Dialogue: 0,0:21:32.52,0:21:35.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,called ACMA. They distribute Dialogue: 0,0:21:35.73,0:21:38.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nutrients/food every 3-4 months. Dialogue: 0,0:21:38.92,0:21:41.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of the charities helps us find Dialogue: 0,0:21:41.99,0:21:45.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doctors. We get help from Syrian doctors, Dialogue: 0,0:21:45.66,0:21:49.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they take care of us without pay. Dialogue: 0,0:21:49.71,0:21:52.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The government has made education free. Dialogue: 0,0:21:52.90,0:21:55.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Going to the polyclinic is also free. Dialogue: 0,0:21:55.97,0:21:58.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The government tries to help us Dialogue: 0,0:21:58.15,0:22:00.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as much as possible. Dialogue: 0,0:22:00.23,0:22:04.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And... the first time in Armenia... Dialogue: 0,0:22:04.23,0:22:06.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not the first time but the second time... Dialogue: 0,0:22:06.95,0:22:09.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,did you work during that time? Where? Dialogue: 0,0:22:09.93,0:22:13.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here! Here, I taught people at home. Dialogue: 0,0:22:13.89,0:22:17.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Taught! That is how they say it in Eastern Dialogue: 0,0:22:17.21,0:22:20.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Armenian. So, I did one-on-one Dialogue: 0,0:22:20.22,0:22:22.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sessions with kids. Dialogue: 0,0:22:22.37,0:22:25.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In that way, I was able to make a living. Dialogue: 0,0:22:25.53,0:22:27.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Second? The third time? Dialogue: 0,0:22:27.92,0:22:30.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No! When I came here the last time, Dialogue: 0,0:22:30.98,0:22:33.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I did one-on-one sessions. When I Dialogue: 0,0:22:33.33,0:22:35.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,came here to visit, no, Dialogue: 0,0:22:35.45,0:22:38.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just came to visit. Dialogue: 0,0:22:38.28,0:22:45.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In 2014, the third time that you came, Dialogue: 0,0:22:45.49,0:22:51.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where did you live? Or now, where do you live? Dialogue: 0,0:22:51.77,0:22:54.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I lived mostly in Etchmiadzin Dialogue: 0,0:22:54.27,0:22:56.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then came to Yerevan. They paid Dialogue: 0,0:22:56.48,0:22:59.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the rent. When they stopped, I could Dialogue: 0,0:22:59.59,0:23:02.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,no longer continue to pay the rent. Dialogue: 0,0:23:02.37,0:23:06.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is hard to survive in Yerevan. I went Dialogue: 0,0:23:06.48,0:23:09.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,back to Etchmiadzin. And there, Dialogue: 0,0:23:09.83,0:23:12.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mission Armenia helped me Dialogue: 0,0:23:12.41,0:23:14.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,again. UN paid my rent. Dialogue: 0,0:23:14.93,0:23:19.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After that, my dream was to live Dialogue: 0,0:23:19.06,0:23:21.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Yerevan. There are more job Dialogue: 0,0:23:21.73,0:23:23.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,opportunities in Yerevan. Dialogue: 0,0:23:23.96,0:23:28.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I applied to UN and Mission Armenia, Dialogue: 0,0:23:28.51,0:23:31.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they helped me find a boarding room. Dialogue: 0,0:23:31.42,0:23:33.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have been living there for a year and a half now. Dialogue: 0,0:23:33.85,0:23:39.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And... do you live here Dialogue: 0,0:23:39.24,0:23:43.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and work with Mission Armenia? Dialogue: 0,0:23:43.53,0:23:50.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I take part in trainings. I teach kids. Dialogue: 0,0:23:53.01,0:23:55.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I give English classes Dialogue: 0,0:23:55.87,0:23:58.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and sometimes Armenian. Dialogue: 0,0:23:58.70,0:24:01.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because... learning from Western to Dialogue: 0,0:24:01.99,0:24:05.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Eastern Armenian is very easy. It is Dialogue: 0,0:24:05.43,0:24:09.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,much easier. The grammar and spelling Dialogue: 0,0:24:09.11,0:24:12.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and etcetera are much easier. Dialogue: 0,0:24:12.20,0:24:15.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And... how is life at the new house? Dialogue: 0,0:24:15.80,0:24:20.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How is life there? I live in a unit Dialogue: 0,0:24:20.75,0:24:24.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that has 5 boarding rooms. Dialogue: 0,0:24:24.38,0:24:29.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We all live in the same unit. Dialogue: 0,0:24:29.01,0:24:31.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The only problem is during winter Dialogue: 0,0:24:31.56,0:24:34.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we had heating problems. Dialogue: 0,0:24:34.11,0:24:38.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Last year! Last year, we did not have Dialogue: 0,0:24:38.93,0:24:41.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a bathroom to take a shower in Dialogue: 0,0:24:41.97,0:24:44.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or could not even do laundry. We were Dialogue: 0,0:24:44.43,0:24:47.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not living in good conditions. As soon as Dialogue: 0,0:24:47.14,0:24:50.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a drop of water would drip on the floor... Dialogue: 0,0:24:50.05,0:24:53.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was scary even the elderly could Dialogue: 0,0:24:53.91,0:24:58.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have slipped. UN paid for the rent Dialogue: 0,0:24:58.41,0:25:02.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and renovations of this housing unit. Dialogue: 0,0:25:02.24,0:25:05.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some renovations were done, but some have Dialogue: 0,0:25:05.59,0:25:11.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not been completed and I do not know why. Dialogue: 0,0:25:11.52,0:25:14.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Heating is an important issue Dialogue: 0,0:25:14.32,0:25:15.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the winter. Dialogue: 0,0:25:15.32,0:25:19.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We really need it, but who is going to Dialogue: 0,0:25:19.03,0:25:22.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,help us and how I do not know. Dialogue: 0,0:25:22.08,0:25:24.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How do you think the government Dialogue: 0,0:25:24.26,0:25:26.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the other organizations are going Dialogue: 0,0:25:26.70,0:25:28.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to help Syrian-Armenians to have Dialogue: 0,0:25:28.93,0:25:31.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a better and easier life here? Dialogue: 0,0:25:31.40,0:25:36.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The government does all that it can. Dialogue: 0,0:25:36.81,0:25:43.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They can only help within their limits. Dialogue: 0,0:25:43.56,0:25:46.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The organizations and benefactors of other Dialogue: 0,0:25:46.90,0:25:50.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,foreign countries can help us more Dialogue: 0,0:25:50.42,0:25:53.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,effectively if it is well-coordinated Dialogue: 0,0:25:53.15,0:25:54.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with local authorities. Dialogue: 0,0:25:54.66,0:25:58.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which organization and in what way... Dialogue: 0,0:25:58.16,0:26:00.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that only they know. Dialogue: 0,0:26:00.78,0:26:04.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that the organizations can help us Dialogue: 0,0:26:04.78,0:26:08.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more, but they have already helped us Dialogue: 0,0:26:08.51,0:26:10.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(like UN and the Red Cross). Dialogue: 0,0:26:10.54,0:26:13.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They have already done that. Dialogue: 0,0:26:15.36,0:26:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And... did you feel welcomed by Dialogue: 0,0:26:20.00,0:26:23.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Armenians living in Armenia? Dialogue: 0,0:26:23.43,0:26:26.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Did you feel welcome and see any Dialogue: 0,0:26:26.21,0:26:29.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,differences in the culture? Dialogue: 0,0:26:29.29,0:26:33.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On the contrary, I was emotionally ready Dialogue: 0,0:26:33.93,0:26:37.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to live here from way before. Dialogue: 0,0:26:37.60,0:26:40.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Armenia population is not that Dialogue: 0,0:26:40.38,0:26:42.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,different compared to Syrian-Armenians. Dialogue: 0,0:26:42.93,0:26:46.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They have been to and visited Aleppo Dialogue: 0,0:26:46.41,0:26:49.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,already. We are not foreigners. For us, Dialogue: 0,0:26:49.46,0:26:53.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Armenian culture is not different. Dialogue: 0,0:26:53.64,0:26:56.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There can be some small differences. Dialogue: 0,0:26:56.19,0:26:58.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The country the Diasporan Dialogue: 0,0:26:58.82,0:27:01.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is from can have an effect on him/her. Dialogue: 0,0:27:01.79,0:27:05.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here, it is a purely Armenian culture. Dialogue: 0,0:27:05.17,0:27:09.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everything is very beautiful and nice. Dialogue: 0,0:27:09.29,0:27:12.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is not that much difference. I got Dialogue: 0,0:27:12.38,0:27:16.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,used to it quickly. I accepted them in Dialogue: 0,0:27:16.60,0:27:21.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,every way from their cuisine to their way Dialogue: 0,0:27:21.11,0:27:25.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of thinking. It was not that difficult. Dialogue: 0,0:27:25.22,0:27:28.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,With those little cultural and language Dialogue: 0,0:27:28.12,0:27:30.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,differences, how do you keep your Dialogue: 0,0:27:30.44,0:27:33.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Syrian-Armenian culture here in Armenia? Dialogue: 0,0:27:33.98,0:27:36.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For the Syrian culture, first is Dialogue: 0,0:27:36.98,0:27:39.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Western Armenian. I do not want to forget Dialogue: 0,0:27:39.98,0:27:43.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Western Armenian. I want to pronounce Dialogue: 0,0:27:43.05,0:27:45.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Eastern Armenian well, but I cannot. Dialogue: 0,0:27:45.66,0:27:47.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can talk (said in Western). Dialogue: 0,0:27:47.62,0:27:49.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can talk (said in Eastern). Dialogue: 0,0:27:49.83,0:27:51.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Pronouncing it is difficult. Dialogue: 0,0:27:51.91,0:27:53.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Unfortunately, we have lost Dialogue: 0,0:27:53.77,0:27:55.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the traditional pronunciations. Dialogue: 0,0:27:55.89,0:28:03.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As a Syrian culture, an Armenian Dialogue: 0,0:28:03.84,0:28:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,culture, a Syrian-Armenian culture, Dialogue: 0,0:28:08.00,0:28:11.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we still have the same traditions and Dialogue: 0,0:28:11.14,0:28:14.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,continue to do things in the same way. Dialogue: 0,0:28:14.94,0:28:18.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you still think that you live Dialogue: 0,0:28:18.72,0:28:23.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in your homeland? This is not the same Dialogue: 0,0:28:23.03,0:28:25.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,homeland that your grandfathers Dialogue: 0,0:28:25.93,0:28:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and grandmothers lived in? Do you still Dialogue: 0,0:28:29.00,0:28:31.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,feel that this is your homeland? Dialogue: 0,0:28:31.17,0:28:33.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Of course, it is not the same. 100 years Dialogue: 0,0:28:33.71,0:28:36.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ago, it was different. It is not about Dialogue: 0,0:28:36.44,0:28:38.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the 100 years. Already 5 years ago, Dialogue: 0,0:28:38.81,0:28:41.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Armenia was different. Life is more Dialogue: 0,0:28:41.49,0:28:45.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,difficult now. When I came as a tourist Dialogue: 0,0:28:45.81,0:28:49.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just to visit, my point of view Dialogue: 0,0:28:49.93,0:28:52.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was different. Now that I live here, Dialogue: 0,0:28:52.35,0:28:55.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is more difficult. I saw more Dialogue: 0,0:28:55.24,0:28:58.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the difficulties. It is mine Dialogue: 0,0:28:58.46,0:29:01.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I belong to it. The sense of Dialogue: 0,0:29:01.28,0:29:05.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,belongingness is very nice. All Armenians Dialogue: 0,0:29:05.04,0:29:08.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have to put their roots in Armenia. Dialogue: 0,0:29:08.53,0:29:11.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every person has to put their roots in Dialogue: 0,0:29:11.49,0:29:12.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their own land. Dialogue: 0,0:29:12.79,0:29:16.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When on someone else's land you plant Dialogue: 0,0:29:16.07,0:29:19.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a tree, you might not have the time to sit Dialogue: 0,0:29:19.17,0:29:22.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,under the tree's shadow. You have to plant Dialogue: 0,0:29:22.49,0:29:24.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the tree on your own land. Dialogue: 0,0:29:24.97,0:29:28.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you want to stay here? Or go back Dialogue: 0,0:29:28.40,0:29:31.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to Aleppo? Or go somewhere else? Dialogue: 0,0:29:31.81,0:29:35.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to go back to Aleppo, because Dialogue: 0,0:29:35.74,0:29:38.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I miss the land that I grew up in Dialogue: 0,0:29:38.71,0:29:41.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(my birthplace, my home, and my neighborhood). Dialogue: 0,0:29:41.98,0:29:45.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have lived there for 46 years before Dialogue: 0,0:29:45.89,0:29:49.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,coming here. Of course, I have a lot of Dialogue: 0,0:29:49.05,0:29:53.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,memories there and I miss everyone there, Dialogue: 0,0:29:53.63,0:29:57.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I want to continue to live in Armenia. Dialogue: 0,0:29:57.29,0:30:01.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And... what do you want to do for work? Dialogue: 0,0:30:01.71,0:30:06.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On my own? On my own! If I do not find Dialogue: 0,0:30:06.33,0:30:10.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a good job, there is no hope. Dialogue: 0,0:30:10.60,0:30:14.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There has to be a job out there. Dialogue: 0,0:30:14.60,0:30:18.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You should not lose all hope. Dialogue: 0,0:30:18.60,0:30:22.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To enjoy life, you have to create your own Dialogue: 0,0:30:22.46,0:30:27.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,aspirations. Without work, you cannot Dialogue: 0,0:30:27.14,0:30:29.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do anything. Dialogue: 0,0:30:29.43,0:30:31.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What kind of job do you want? Dialogue: 0,0:30:31.63,0:30:34.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whatever is available. This is Armenia. Dialogue: 0,0:30:34.42,0:30:36.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You have to work with whatever work Dialogue: 0,0:30:36.69,0:30:38.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is available. Dialogue: 0,0:30:38.23,0:30:40.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You said that you do not have family in Aleppo. Dialogue: 0,0:30:40.77,0:30:43.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, I do not have family there. Dialogue: 0,0:30:43.32,0:30:45.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you have any family there? Dialogue: 0,0:30:45.38,0:30:46.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, no family. Dialogue: 0,0:30:46.85,0:30:49.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, I have friends and neighbours there. Dialogue: 0,0:30:49.64,0:30:51.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Are they still there? Dialogue: 0,0:30:51.93,0:30:54.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For the most part, they went to Europe. Dialogue: 0,0:30:54.32,0:30:57.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For the most part, no one is there now. Dialogue: 0,0:30:57.42,0:31:00.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is your house still there? Yes, it is. Dialogue: 0,0:31:00.44,0:31:04.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is anyone checking up on it? Yes! Dialogue: 0,0:31:09.41,0:31:13.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In 1915, we had to... no... we were forced Dialogue: 0,0:31:13.56,0:31:16.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to leave. We did not decide to leave. Dialogue: 0,0:31:16.72,0:31:20.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Unfortunately, our forefathers were Dialogue: 0,0:31:20.29,0:31:23.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all displaced in 1915. Dialogue: 0,0:31:23.45,0:31:27.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,From the war, the ruins, and the death Dialogue: 0,0:31:27.09,0:31:29.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of many people, only a few of the families Dialogue: 0,0:31:29.93,0:31:32.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,made it to Syrian land. Dialogue: 0,0:31:32.59,0:31:36.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, it is very different. No one told us Dialogue: 0,0:31:36.59,0:31:41.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to leave Syria. Never. We left. There are Dialogue: 0,0:31:41.22,0:31:44.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,still a lot of Armenians that live in Dialogue: 0,0:31:44.59,0:31:48.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Aleppo, Syria. We left. We had the ability Dialogue: 0,0:31:48.59,0:31:51.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to leave. We had the convenience to Dialogue: 0,0:31:51.99,0:31:55.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,leave. We wanted to leave. From the people Dialogue: 0,0:31:55.01,0:31:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that came to Armenia with us, they came Dialogue: 0,0:31:58.00,0:32:00.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,here temporarily. We thought the war Dialogue: 0,0:32:00.99,0:32:03.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would end and we would go back. Dialogue: 0,0:32:03.45,0:32:05.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is the reason why we came here. Dialogue: 0,0:32:05.89,0:32:08.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, I do not want to talk for other Dialogue: 0,0:32:08.12,0:32:11.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people. For the most part, the people Dialogue: 0,0:32:11.14,0:32:14.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that have work here do not go back. Dialogue: 0,0:32:14.95,0:32:18.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When they have learned and gotten used to Dialogue: 0,0:32:18.84,0:32:21.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the life here and have a job here, Dialogue: 0,0:32:21.68,0:32:24.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I do not think that they will go back. Dialogue: 0,0:32:24.12,0:32:26.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I highly doubt that Aleppo will go back Dialogue: 0,0:32:26.66,0:32:29.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the way it was. It will take a long Dialogue: 0,0:32:29.07,0:32:31.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,time for it to be the same as before. Dialogue: 0,0:32:31.51,0:32:35.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It will take a long time. Dialogue: 0,0:32:35.45,0:32:42.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And... for you, personally, what draws you to Armenia? Dialogue: 0,0:32:42.05,0:32:45.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Personally! Since childhood, the love Dialogue: 0,0:32:45.66,0:32:49.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for Armenia was in our house, at school, Dialogue: 0,0:32:49.81,0:32:53.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in the community centers. There is Dialogue: 0,0:32:53.21,0:32:56.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a problem of keeping our Armenianhood. Dialogue: 0,0:32:56.07,0:32:58.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The community centers and the schools Dialogue: 0,0:32:58.28,0:33:02.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,work with this issue. In our house, Dialogue: 0,0:33:02.09,0:33:08.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,patriotism was important. They always Dialogue: 0,0:33:08.70,0:33:11.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mentioned Armenia. When I came Dialogue: 0,0:33:11.32,0:33:16.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to Armenia in 2004 for 1 month, Dialogue: 0,0:33:16.06,0:33:19.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I left my soul here. Dialogue: 0,0:33:19.30,0:33:23.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wanted to live here, but we could not Dialogue: 0,0:33:23.55,0:33:27.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dare to do that because of work. We could Dialogue: 0,0:33:27.55,0:33:32.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not destroy everything there and start Dialogue: 0,0:33:32.05,0:33:34.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a new life here. We did not know if Dialogue: 0,0:33:34.44,0:33:37.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we would succeed or not. I already Dialogue: 0,0:33:37.07,0:33:40.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wanted to live in Armenia. And now, Dialogue: 0,0:33:40.08,0:33:42.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am here. Dialogue: 0,0:33:42.78,0:33:44.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Very good! Dialogue: 0,0:33:44.21,0:33:50.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What advice would you give? To give advice Dialogue: 0,0:33:50.17,0:33:53.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to who? To Syrian-Armenians? Dialogue: 0,0:33:53.54,0:33:56.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, the ones that returned to Armenia. Dialogue: 0,0:33:56.56,0:33:59.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I do not give myself permission to give Dialogue: 0,0:33:59.04,0:34:02.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,advice to others, because every Dialogue: 0,0:34:02.78,0:34:08.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,difficulty and experience in life teaches Dialogue: 0,0:34:08.99,0:34:12.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you something new. You will see that Dialogue: 0,0:34:12.04,0:34:14.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there is still a lot that you do not know. Dialogue: 0,0:34:14.78,0:34:16.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For this reason, I cannot give advice Dialogue: 0,0:34:16.95,0:34:19.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to anybody. Everyone will know what is Dialogue: 0,0:34:19.59,0:34:22.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,convenient for them and will think before Dialogue: 0,0:34:22.48,0:34:26.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,taking the appropriate steps. Like I said Dialogue: 0,0:34:26.63,0:34:31.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,before, for everyone their motherland Dialogue: 0,0:34:31.59,0:34:37.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has to be their inspiring, final Dialogue: 0,0:34:37.84,0:34:42.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,destination that they will feel Dialogue: 0,0:34:42.34,0:34:45.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,comfortable in. Dialogue: 0,0:34:45.44,0:34:48.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We do not need to live in foreign lands. Dialogue: 0,0:34:48.89,0:34:52.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You always have to live on your own land. Dialogue: 0,0:34:52.33,0:34:55.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The next generation... you will teach Dialogue: 0,0:34:55.71,0:35:00.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the next generation about their own land. Dialogue: 0,0:35:00.73,0:35:03.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The tree that I talked about earlier, Dialogue: 0,0:35:03.90,0:35:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you are going to plant it on Dialogue: 0,0:35:06.00,0:35:08.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your motherland. That is a beautiful Dialogue: 0,0:35:08.40,0:35:10.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,statement. Dialogue: 0,0:35:10.19,0:35:15.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can you tell me about yourself Dialogue: 0,0:35:15.94,0:35:19.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in two words? About myself? Dialogue: 0,0:35:19.66,0:35:22.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What are those two words? Dialogue: 0,0:35:22.19,0:35:25.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am proud that I am Armenian. I am still Dialogue: 0,0:35:25.87,0:35:28.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,having some difficulties and do not know Dialogue: 0,0:35:28.77,0:35:31.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what the future will bring, but I am happy Dialogue: 0,0:35:31.28,0:35:33.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I live in Armenia. I always wanted to Dialogue: 0,0:35:33.48,0:35:34.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,live here. Dialogue: 0,0:35:34.99,0:35:39.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am thankful to the Armenian people Dialogue: 0,0:35:39.19,0:35:42.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,here that were always ready to help. Dialogue: 0,0:35:47.38,0:35:51.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How can Syrian-Armenians help Armenia? Dialogue: 0,0:35:51.32,0:35:56.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every person that has a talent or can Dialogue: 0,0:35:56.42,0:36:00.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bring something new to the table Dialogue: 0,0:36:00.79,0:36:04.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or has a skill, depending on Dialogue: 0,0:36:04.20,0:36:07.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the conditions, he/she can help Dialogue: 0,0:36:07.98,0:36:11.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Armenia. Why not? It depends if Dialogue: 0,0:36:11.53,0:36:14.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he/she has the right conditions. Dialogue: 0,0:36:14.02,0:36:16.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He/she has to be given the opportunity. Dialogue: 0,0:36:16.59,0:36:18.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The conditions have to be met Dialogue: 0,0:36:18.79,0:36:20.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,financially first. Dialogue: 0,0:36:20.11,0:36:23.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can work with things you know, so that Dialogue: 0,0:36:23.67,0:36:27.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can help others as well. If someone Dialogue: 0,0:36:27.52,0:36:32.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has a personal store, he/she is not going Dialogue: 0,0:36:32.87,0:36:36.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to work alone. That individual will have Dialogue: 0,0:36:36.01,0:36:38.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,other employees. Other families will be Dialogue: 0,0:36:38.90,0:36:40.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,able to benefit from them too. This is Dialogue: 0,0:36:40.90,0:36:43.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the smallest way that they can help. Dialogue: 0,0:36:43.09,0:36:45.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are other ways too. They can Dialogue: 0,0:36:45.47,0:36:48.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be artists or artisans for example. Dialogue: 0,0:36:48.50,0:36:54.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Syrian-Armenians have some advanced Dialogue: 0,0:36:54.22,0:36:57.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and knowledgeable workers now that work Dialogue: 0,0:36:57.60,0:37:02.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in different centers like the national Dialogue: 0,0:37:02.08,0:37:04.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,library and other places that Dialogue: 0,0:37:04.80,0:37:06.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I do not want to specify. Dialogue: 0,0:37:06.51,0:37:09.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are already Syrian-Armenians that Dialogue: 0,0:37:09.44,0:37:12.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are working and are helping Armenia. Dialogue: 0,0:37:12.87,0:37:20.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And... how did you make friends and make Dialogue: 0,0:37:20.25,0:37:25.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a community here? New social life? Dialogue: 0,0:37:25.23,0:37:27.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,With Syrian-Armenians or Armenians from Armenia? Dialogue: 0,0:37:27.29,0:37:30.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My surroundings are mostly Dialogue: 0,0:37:30.17,0:37:33.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Eastern Armenians. I like change. I was Dialogue: 0,0:37:33.03,0:37:35.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,emotionally ready to accept all Dialogue: 0,0:37:35.49,0:37:41.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the changes. Their life is interesting. Dialogue: 0,0:37:41.14,0:37:43.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was not difficult to get used to Dialogue: 0,0:37:43.89,0:37:47.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the change. For me, it was nice. Dialogue: 0,0:37:47.29,0:37:50.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have many vast, rich, Dialogue: 0,0:37:50.75,0:37:52.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and interesting surroundings. Dialogue: 0,0:37:52.98,0:37:55.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What are? You were so happy when you Dialogue: 0,0:37:55.78,0:37:58.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were saying Armenia has welcomed you Dialogue: 0,0:37:58.17,0:38:00.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and maybe you have said it already, but Dialogue: 0,0:38:00.03,0:38:01.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what are some examples of how Dialogue: 0,0:38:01.77,0:38:02.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they welcomed you? Dialogue: 0,0:38:02.71,0:38:04.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How Armenia has welcomed you? Dialogue: 0,0:38:04.20,0:38:06.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How the Armenians were accepting Dialogue: 0,0:38:06.54,0:38:09.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of us here? Example? Do you have Dialogue: 0,0:38:09.14,0:38:10.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,examples? How they welcomed us? Dialogue: 0,0:38:10.84,0:38:13.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like I said before... how the people? Dialogue: 0,0:38:13.58,0:38:16.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you have stories or examples? Dialogue: 0,0:38:16.62,0:38:18.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For example, it has happened that I have Dialogue: 0,0:38:18.73,0:38:20.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,been in some sort of transportation Dialogue: 0,0:38:20.58,0:38:22.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and had to go somewhere Dialogue: 0,0:38:22.42,0:38:23.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they knew from the way Dialogue: 0,0:38:23.99,0:38:26.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I talked that I spoke Western Armenian Dialogue: 0,0:38:26.26,0:38:29.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they have paid 100 AMD for me. Dialogue: 0,0:38:29.11,0:38:33.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They wanted to do something. It has Dialogue: 0,0:38:33.82,0:38:37.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,happened that they did not take 100 AMD Dialogue: 0,0:38:37.75,0:38:43.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from me or the taxi charged me less. Dialogue: 0,0:38:43.38,0:38:46.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All these people are people I do not know. Dialogue: 0,0:38:46.65,0:38:50.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Speaking about neighbours, as soon as Dialogue: 0,0:38:50.22,0:38:52.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would move... Dialogue: 0,0:38:52.94,0:38:55.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they would ask me what I need. Dialogue: 0,0:38:55.29,0:38:58.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,With that question, you know that you are Dialogue: 0,0:38:58.86,0:39:02.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not alone. There have always been people Dialogue: 0,0:39:02.27,0:39:05.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who were willing to help us. It was not Dialogue: 0,0:39:05.16,0:39:08.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,only me. There have always been people Dialogue: 0,0:39:08.31,0:39:11.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and institutions who wanted to help Dialogue: 0,0:39:11.40,0:39:13.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(like the Red Cross, UN, Dialogue: 0,0:39:13.93,0:39:17.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Mission Armenia). They are Dialogue: 0,0:39:17.33,0:39:21.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,non-Syrian organizations. They already Dialogue: 0,0:39:21.20,0:39:24.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,help us. There are a lot of people here Dialogue: 0,0:39:24.71,0:39:26.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that want to help us. Dialogue: 0,0:39:26.66,0:39:29.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is there anything you want to add that Dialogue: 0,0:39:29.05,0:39:30.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you did not say? Dialogue: 0,0:39:30.70,0:39:34.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is a lot. Dialogue: 0,0:39:34.90,0:39:37.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What kind of thing? Dialogue: 0,0:39:37.71,0:39:39.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All the Armenians should come back to Armenia. Dialogue: 0,0:39:39.99,0:39:43.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Please see, for example, my family has Dialogue: 0,0:39:43.81,0:39:47.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,always loved Armenia even before Dialogue: 0,0:39:47.16,0:39:49.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,seeing it. I already loved Armenia. When Dialogue: 0,0:39:49.91,0:39:52.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we saw Armenia, we fell in love with it... Dialogue: 0,0:39:52.87,0:39:55.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because you feel like you belong to it Dialogue: 0,0:39:55.26,0:39:57.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it belongs to you and is your mom. Dialogue: 0,0:39:57.45,0:40:00.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,With all its bad qualities, it is yours Dialogue: 0,0:40:00.81,0:40:03.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you belong to it. We really wanted Dialogue: 0,0:40:03.86,0:40:07.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to come and move here. Since we always Dialogue: 0,0:40:07.00,0:40:09.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thought about our work situation, we did Dialogue: 0,0:40:09.91,0:40:12.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not take the necessary steps to move here. Dialogue: 0,0:40:12.41,0:40:14.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can see that the day came and that we Dialogue: 0,0:40:14.96,0:40:17.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are here now. We should not have come in Dialogue: 0,0:40:17.33,0:40:19.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this way. We should have been more Dialogue: 0,0:40:19.60,0:40:22.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,organized when we came here. In the end, Dialogue: 0,0:40:22.96,0:40:25.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we heard that our place is our mother's Dialogue: 0,0:40:25.27,0:40:30.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lap and not foreign lands. Syria, Dialogue: 0,0:40:30.84,0:40:33.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my birthplace, is a very good place Dialogue: 0,0:40:33.99,0:40:38.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in terms of its people and its government. Dialogue: 0,0:40:38.23,0:40:40.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are like family to us. Dialogue: 0,0:40:40.77,0:40:44.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Your motherland should be your country. Dialogue: 0,0:40:44.58,0:40:48.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All the Armenians, especially those that Dialogue: 0,0:40:48.09,0:40:50.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had the convenience to work here, can Dialogue: 0,0:40:50.76,0:40:55.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,create jobs. They do not have to think. Dialogue: 0,0:40:55.30,0:40:57.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is not that much to think about. Dialogue: 0,0:40:57.94,0:41:01.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They have to come and start from here Dialogue: 0,0:41:01.34,0:41:04.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and after them the next generation. Dialogue: 0,0:41:04.42,0:41:08.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When the Diasporans start to come Dialogue: 0,0:41:08.16,0:41:11.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to Armenia, especially the youth, they Dialogue: 0,0:41:11.72,0:41:15.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,should not be easily discouraged and have Dialogue: 0,0:41:15.48,0:41:20.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,high hopes. You should create that hope. Dialogue: 0,0:41:20.05,0:41:22.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,From generation to generation, we get Dialogue: 0,0:41:22.42,0:41:26.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,better. We sit and watch the Diasporans Dialogue: 0,0:41:26.73,0:41:29.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from afar. The love of Armenia is Dialogue: 0,0:41:29.59,0:41:32.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not enough. We have to do something. Dialogue: 0,0:41:32.69,0:41:36.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everyone should do, whatever they can do. Dialogue: 0,0:41:36.86,0:41:39.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is a short story. Dialogue: 0,0:41:39.41,0:41:44.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the forest, a fire takes place. Dialogue: 0,0:41:44.09,0:41:47.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All the animals... what does that word Dialogue: 0,0:41:47.20,0:41:51.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mean? Fire! All the animals think about Dialogue: 0,0:41:51.20,0:41:54.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,saving their souls and run away. All Dialogue: 0,0:41:54.94,0:42:01.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of a sudden, they see a bird on its back Dialogue: 0,0:42:01.25,0:42:04.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and its feet up. They ask the bird, what Dialogue: 0,0:42:04.59,0:42:07.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are you doing? Run away and save your Dialogue: 0,0:42:07.41,0:42:10.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,soul. You can get burnt and die. The bird Dialogue: 0,0:42:10.15,0:42:13.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,says, no, I am holding up the sky. Dialogue: 0,0:42:13.88,0:42:17.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, that bird with its small and weak feet Dialogue: 0,0:42:17.62,0:42:20.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is trying to do its part. Dialogue: 0,0:42:20.26,0:42:25.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It holds up the sky to protect and save Dialogue: 0,0:42:25.86,0:42:28.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the forest. Sorry, it was not fire. Dialogue: 0,0:42:28.56,0:42:30.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You could say that it was the end Dialogue: 0,0:42:30.30,0:42:31.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the world. Dialogue: 0,0:42:31.55,0:42:34.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If everyone does what they Dialogue: 0,0:42:34.74,0:42:37.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can like the bird in the story and does Dialogue: 0,0:42:37.98,0:42:40.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not get discouraged, something will Dialogue: 0,0:42:40.34,0:42:44.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,happen. So, we can do something to help. Dialogue: 0,0:42:47.10,0:42:49.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anything else? Dialogue: 0,0:42:49.28,0:42:52.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, that is all. I am a teacher I can Dialogue: 0,0:42:52.52,0:42:55.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,talk all morning. Dialogue: 0,0:42:55.08,0:42:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We learned a lot from you.