[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:04.76,0:00:06.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ atmospheric electronic music ] Dialogue: 0,0:00:08.68,0:00:10.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ CATHERINE OPIE ] What are you gonna say, huh? Dialogue: 0,0:00:11.04,0:00:13.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What are you gonna say\Nto the camera? Dialogue: 0,0:00:13.06,0:00:14.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You got to look at the camera. Dialogue: 0,0:00:14.25,0:00:15.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The camera's over there. Dialogue: 0,0:00:16.17,0:00:16.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, not there. Dialogue: 0,0:00:16.78,0:00:17.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's over there. Dialogue: 0,0:00:17.65,0:00:18.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Look, Sunny. Dialogue: 0,0:00:19.42,0:00:20.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Camera's there. Dialogue: 0,0:00:24.36,0:00:26.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I understood\Nfrom a really young age Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.77,0:00:30.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that work had this potential\Nto convey time. Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.08,0:00:37.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was literally going\Nto the Toledo Art Museum Dialogue: 0,0:00:37.87,0:00:39.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or Cleveland Dialogue: 0,0:00:39.15,0:00:42.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and standing before\Na lot of the masters, Dialogue: 0,0:00:43.41,0:00:45.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,realizing what that depicted Dialogue: 0,0:00:45.50,0:00:48.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in relationship\Nto a narrative of the time. Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.84,0:00:52.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The early portraits\Nof my friends Dialogue: 0,0:00:52.28,0:00:54.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is because of Hans Holbein. Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.64,0:00:56.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was looking at Holbein Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.48,0:01:00.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in relationship\Nto making that work, Dialogue: 0,0:01:00.09,0:01:02.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,especially the importance\Nof a history of aesthetics Dialogue: 0,0:01:04.10,0:01:07.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when you might be photographing\Nsubjects that people Dialogue: 0,0:01:07.07,0:01:10.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't really want to talk about\Nor look at. Dialogue: 0,0:01:12.47,0:01:16.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It couldn't be\Nlike a Diane Arbus photograph. Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.50,0:01:20.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It had to completely focus\Non the body and also color. Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.65,0:01:25.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had to seduce the viewer\Nin a different way. Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.07,0:01:41.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Girlfriends, I think,\Nwill always be ongoing. Dialogue: 0,0:01:41.26,0:01:43.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that it's gonna be\Njust a collection of images Dialogue: 0,0:01:43.94,0:01:47.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I continue\Nthroughout my life hopefully. Dialogue: 0,0:01:54.39,0:01:56.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Diana Nyad is definitely\Ngoing to be Dialogue: 0,0:01:56.81,0:01:59.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,included in the body of work\Nwhen I exhibit it next. Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.11,0:02:05.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I like this blue. Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.22,0:02:07.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it's good to photograph\Nit on a different color Dialogue: 0,0:02:07.12,0:02:08.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than last year. Dialogue: 0,0:02:09.36,0:02:11.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The photograph of her back is,\Nto me, Dialogue: 0,0:02:11.66,0:02:12.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just, like, one of these Dialogue: 0,0:02:12.87,0:02:15.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,perfect, amazing\Nbeautiful photographs Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.94,0:02:19.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of this 61-year-old,\Npowerful woman. Dialogue: 0,0:02:21.21,0:02:23.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- All right, here we go, buddy.\NAll right. Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.81,0:02:26.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want you to try to go\Nin your head Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.19,0:02:27.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where you're going\Nwhen you're swimming, okay? Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.80,0:02:29.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just want you to be\Nin that place a bit. Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.66,0:02:36.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, blink,\Nand then open your eyes. Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.96,0:02:37.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[shutter clicks] Dialogue: 0,0:02:37.96,0:02:40.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And look right into the camera,\NDi. Dialogue: 0,0:02:40.23,0:02:41.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[shutter clicks] Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.62,0:02:43.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- [indistinct speech] Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.00,0:02:44.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:02:44.00,0:02:46.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How's the light look, Nicole? Dialogue: 0,0:02:46.09,0:02:47.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- It's good. Dialogue: 0,0:02:47.18,0:02:49.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Her– the shadow's a little dark. Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.47,0:02:51.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Can I see? Dialogue: 0,0:02:51.09,0:02:53.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I like that, with the cap on\Nand the goggles too. Dialogue: 0,0:02:53.44,0:02:54.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I like it too. Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.85,0:02:55.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I think it's good.\N- Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.98,0:02:56.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I love that. Dialogue: 0,0:02:56.73,0:02:58.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- That's cool.\N- That's beautiful. Dialogue: 0,0:02:58.30,0:03:00.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, I think maybe I need\Nthe 80 lens. Dialogue: 0,0:03:00.58,0:03:01.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:03:02.07,0:03:03.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[shutter clicks] Dialogue: 0,0:03:04.39,0:03:05.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[shutter clicks] Dialogue: 0,0:03:07.05,0:03:09.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't think\Nthat Surfers would have existed, Dialogue: 0,0:03:09.69,0:03:10.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in terms of me making them, Dialogue: 0,0:03:10.99,0:03:12.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if I hadn't made the Icehouses. Dialogue: 0,0:03:14.50,0:03:17.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The correlation\Nbetween Surfers and Icehouses Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.30,0:03:19.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is this notion\Nof a temporary community Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.15,0:03:20.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that exists on the water. Dialogue: 0,0:03:24.00,0:03:25.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One is a frozen\Ntemporary community. Dialogue: 0,0:03:25.90,0:03:29.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The other is a community that\Nis out in the pacific ocean. Dialogue: 0,0:03:32.02,0:03:36.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Both of them contain that kind\Nof metaphor of waiting. Dialogue: 0,0:03:40.48,0:03:42.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can slow down. Dialogue: 0,0:03:43.96,0:03:45.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can stop. Dialogue: 0,0:03:47.48,0:03:50.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you can maybe even have\Nan ethereal moment. Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.31,0:04:01.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[birds squawking] Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.03,0:04:03.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- The trick is\Nto not spill the coffee. Dialogue: 0,0:04:03.24,0:04:06.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's okay if the camera drops,\Nbut the coffee. Dialogue: 0,0:04:13.98,0:04:15.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I grew up in Sandusky, Ohio, Dialogue: 0,0:04:15.51,0:04:19.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we left when I was 13\Nto move to California. Dialogue: 0,0:04:19.72,0:04:22.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sandusky, Ohio\Nis the somewhat small town Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.69,0:04:25.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's located right\Non Lake Erie. Dialogue: 0,0:04:25.33,0:04:28.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's most known\Nfor Cedar Point Amusement Park, Dialogue: 0,0:04:28.02,0:04:29.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where everybody\Nfrom the Midwest comes. Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.44,0:04:35.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Cleveland is about 45 minutes\Nnorth of Sandusky. Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.03,0:04:38.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When the Cleveland Clinic\Napproached me Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.77,0:04:40.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to do a body of work, Dialogue: 0,0:04:40.47,0:04:44.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I immediately proposed\Nthat I would Dialogue: 0,0:04:44.18,0:04:46.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,go and photograph Lake Erie, Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.02,0:04:47.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and specifically\Nbecause I wanted Dialogue: 0,0:04:47.74,0:04:49.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to go back to Sandusky. Dialogue: 0,0:04:52.14,0:04:53.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- One thing I don't like is Dialogue: 0,0:04:53.22,0:04:55.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how the birds go in my horizon. Dialogue: 0,0:04:55.41,0:04:57.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would prefer\Nthat they would go away. Dialogue: 0,0:04:59.73,0:05:01.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's the first time ever\Nthat I've ever been able Dialogue: 0,0:05:01.61,0:05:04.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to do a piece\Nthat is actually going to Dialogue: 0,0:05:04.11,0:05:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stay there\Nfor the life of the building. Dialogue: 0,0:05:06.00,0:05:06.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[shutter clicks] Dialogue: 0,0:05:13.11,0:05:14.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The fact\Nthat I was commissioned Dialogue: 0,0:05:14.57,0:05:16.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,allowed me to spend a year Dialogue: 0,0:05:16.94,0:05:19.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going in and out\Non six different trips Dialogue: 0,0:05:19.38,0:05:21.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to my hometown Dialogue: 0,0:05:21.08,0:05:22.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and look at it again Dialogue: 0,0:05:22.63,0:05:25.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Through a 50-year-old\Nphotographer's eyes. Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.20,0:05:29.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I don't really like the waves\Nbreaking that much in it. Dialogue: 0,0:05:29.81,0:05:31.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Aw, it got me wet. Dialogue: 0,0:05:33.24,0:05:34.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[shutter clicks] Dialogue: 0,0:05:35.67,0:05:36.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[shutter clicks] Dialogue: 0,0:05:44.52,0:05:47.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every season that's represented\Nin the piece Dialogue: 0,0:05:47.04,0:05:50.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is four photographs\Nof that season. Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.43,0:05:52.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Except for winter has five. Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.58,0:05:55.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And winter has five,\Nspecifically, Dialogue: 0,0:05:55.23,0:05:58.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because we always think\Nthat the frozen landscape Dialogue: 0,0:05:58.06,0:06:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will never disappear. Dialogue: 0,0:06:00.00,0:06:01.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- This is sunrise. Dialogue: 0,0:06:01.11,0:06:02.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is sunset. Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.69,0:06:04.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is sunrise\Nin the same location. Dialogue: 0,0:06:04.51,0:06:06.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You'll see the foot tracks here. Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.45,0:06:13.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I love that a careful viewer\Nwill pick up that little moment Dialogue: 0,0:06:13.28,0:06:15.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that that is the same place\Nat different times, Dialogue: 0,0:06:15.93,0:06:17.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,different days. Dialogue: 0,0:06:19.82,0:06:22.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I love that the little\Nanimal footprints are here. Dialogue: 0,0:06:22.67,0:06:26.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then there's just a slight\Nband of pink in the sky. Dialogue: 0,0:06:26.63,0:06:29.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just does– ugh–\Nall these crazy things. Dialogue: 0,0:06:33.18,0:06:36.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sitting with it isn't\Nsitting with it for a long time. Dialogue: 0,0:06:36.61,0:06:39.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's kind of like how\NI photograph portraits as well. Dialogue: 0,0:06:39.16,0:06:41.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I make decisions fairly quickly. Dialogue: 0,0:06:42.27,0:06:44.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I want to make sure\Nthat I can walk into the studio Dialogue: 0,0:06:44.53,0:06:46.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,three days in a row\Nand have it hold me. Dialogue: 0,0:06:48.30,0:06:51.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And now the biggest question is:\N"Amusement park or sailboat?" Dialogue: 0,0:07:04.78,0:07:05.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, I could do away Dialogue: 0,0:07:05.78,0:07:08.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the Cedar Point one\Naltogether Dialogue: 0,0:07:08.53,0:07:12.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and go to\Nthat really ethereal fog one. Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.00,0:07:16.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,See how attached I am\Nto Cedar Point as a place. Dialogue: 0,0:07:22.10,0:07:23.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's pretty nice. Dialogue: 0,0:07:24.78,0:07:27.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[laughing] Dialogue: 0,0:07:29.16,0:07:30.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a little sad. Dialogue: 0,0:07:31.71,0:07:35.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that's where you have to let\Nyour nostalgia go away, Dialogue: 0,0:07:36.13,0:07:37.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you can. Dialogue: 0,0:07:39.37,0:07:40.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know. Dialogue: 0,0:07:40.41,0:07:41.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[laughs] Dialogue: 0,0:07:41.22,0:07:42.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know if I can let– Dialogue: 0,0:07:42.36,0:07:45.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think so, ultimately,\Nto make a better piece, yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:07:47.33,0:07:47.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So... Dialogue: 0,0:07:53.19,0:07:56.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The fact that this is going\Nto be in a hospital setting Dialogue: 0,0:07:56.40,0:07:58.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that can be life-changing\Nfor people Dialogue: 0,0:07:58.68,0:08:01.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for either good news,\Nbad news. Dialogue: 0,0:08:02.59,0:08:05.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To be able to have a place\Nthat's ethereal Dialogue: 0,0:08:05.55,0:08:07.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to almost escape to. Dialogue: 0,0:08:07.20,0:08:09.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think of change\Nin a certain way Dialogue: 0,0:08:09.21,0:08:11.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As escape in my mind. Dialogue: 0,0:08:11.03,0:08:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like, they weigh out to be\Na little bit of the same. Dialogue: 0,0:08:16.00,0:08:22.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I suppose that's, um–\Nthat might be more personal. Dialogue: 0,0:08:23.06,0:08:23.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know? Dialogue: 0,0:08:23.60,0:08:24.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It might have– Dialogue: 0,0:08:24.41,0:08:26.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it might have more\Nof a personal relationship Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.43,0:08:31.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To actually what this place\Ndid to me when I was a kid– Dialogue: 0,0:08:31.43,0:08:35.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was that I was allowed\Nto escape, sometimes, Dialogue: 0,0:08:35.32,0:08:36.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,situations that were\Nreally hard on me Dialogue: 0,0:08:36.95,0:08:39.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on an emotional level\Nwithin our family. Dialogue: 0,0:08:39.53,0:08:41.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And literally,\NI used the landscape Dialogue: 0,0:08:41.93,0:08:45.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to change my emotional state. Dialogue: 0,0:08:45.94,0:08:48.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think that\Nthat kind of comes up for me Dialogue: 0,0:08:48.91,0:08:52.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in relationship to, often,\Nhow I photograph a place. Dialogue: 0,0:08:52.21,0:08:56.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As I find this,\Nwhat I deem as a– Dialogue: 0,0:08:56.15,0:08:57.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as a safe place to go. Dialogue: 0,0:09:18.14,0:09:19.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[indistinct announcements\NOver p.A.] Dialogue: 0,0:09:29.42,0:09:32.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There were years that I\Nemptied out American cities. Dialogue: 0,0:09:32.70,0:09:34.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what I mean by emptying out, Dialogue: 0,0:09:34.21,0:09:35.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I just wanted to look Dialogue: 0,0:09:35.25,0:09:38.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the specificity of identity\Nthrough the architecture. Dialogue: 0,0:09:41.42,0:09:44.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so there weren't people\Nin those big panoramas. Dialogue: 0,0:09:49.83,0:09:51.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it started\Nwith the body of work Dialogue: 0,0:09:51.80,0:09:53.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in and around home. Dialogue: 0,0:09:54.36,0:09:57.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was back on the street\Nwith a camera in my hand Dialogue: 0,0:09:57.20,0:10:00.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like I was in the early '80s\Nin San Francisco. Dialogue: 0,0:10:00.20,0:10:02.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I was looking\Nat these groups of people Dialogue: 0,0:10:02.97,0:10:04.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that had come together, Dialogue: 0,0:10:04.63,0:10:07.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,either to celebrate\NU.S.C. Football Dialogue: 0,0:10:08.95,0:10:10.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or Martin Luther King Dialogue: 0,0:10:11.10,0:10:15.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or a rally against\N31 registered sex offenders. Dialogue: 0,0:10:15.67,0:10:20.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I realized that it was\Nreally important for me Dialogue: 0,0:10:20.05,0:10:22.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to no longer\Nempty out the landscape. Dialogue: 0,0:10:22.71,0:10:25.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But to fulfill\Nthis other kind of notion Dialogue: 0,0:10:25.83,0:10:28.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of creating documents\Nof our time. Dialogue: 0,0:10:29.38,0:10:33.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I really wanted to make\NAmerican landscapes, Dialogue: 0,0:10:33.20,0:10:35.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the notion\Nof American landscape Dialogue: 0,0:10:35.42,0:10:37.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in terms of an identity. Dialogue: 0,0:10:40.82,0:10:42.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[birds chirping] Dialogue: 0,0:10:46.56,0:10:47.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Oh, my gosh. Dialogue: 0,0:10:47.28,0:10:49.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The trees are amazing. Dialogue: 0,0:10:49.06,0:10:50.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Oh, yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:10:50.72,0:10:51.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wisteria? Dialogue: 0,0:10:51.72,0:10:52.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- No. Dialogue: 0,0:10:52.72,0:10:53.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- No? Dialogue: 0,0:10:53.72,0:10:54.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Jacarandas. Dialogue: 0,0:10:54.41,0:10:55.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Oh, right. Dialogue: 0,0:10:55.41,0:10:58.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yeah, wisteria's kind of\Na vine that grows over things. Dialogue: 0,0:10:58.97,0:10:59.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Oh, yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:10:59.61,0:11:00.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What– Dialogue: 0,0:11:00.24,0:11:02.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- But people from the Midwest\Nsay, "Jack-uh-ran-duh." Dialogue: 0,0:11:02.72,0:11:04.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[sniffs] Dialogue: 0,0:11:05.92,0:11:08.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, let's go see\Nour garage friends Dialogue: 0,0:11:08.07,0:11:09.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and see if they're nice Dialogue: 0,0:11:09.07,0:11:11.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and let me take a picture\Nof them. Dialogue: 0,0:11:11.09,0:11:12.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's kind of a perfect\Nportrait day. Dialogue: 0,0:11:12.76,0:11:13.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Mm-hmm. Dialogue: 0,0:11:18.04,0:11:19.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Hey, guys. Dialogue: 0,0:11:19.04,0:11:19.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How's it going? Dialogue: 0,0:11:20.33,0:11:21.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hey, how are you doing today? Dialogue: 0,0:11:22.20,0:11:23.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, I live up the street, Dialogue: 0,0:11:23.48,0:11:25.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I always come here\Nand get my tires fixed. Dialogue: 0,0:11:25.02,0:11:27.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm doing a photo series Dialogue: 0,0:11:27.77,0:11:30.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of shopkeepers\Nin the neighborhood. Dialogue: 0,0:11:30.44,0:11:32.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was wondering if I could\Ndo a portrait of you. Dialogue: 0,0:11:34.76,0:11:35.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay. Dialogue: 0,0:11:39.66,0:11:40.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, ready? Dialogue: 0,0:11:40.37,0:11:41.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Right here with me. Dialogue: 0,0:11:41.76,0:11:43.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just relax. Dialogue: 0,0:11:43.87,0:11:45.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[shutter clicks] Dialogue: 0,0:11:45.25,0:11:46.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Good. Let me look at that. Dialogue: 0,0:11:49.21,0:11:52.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ah...Very good. Dialogue: 0,0:11:52.53,0:11:53.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, right here. Dialogue: 0,0:11:54.82,0:11:55.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, muy bien. Dialogue: 0,0:11:55.98,0:11:56.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's it. Dialogue: 0,0:11:57.55,0:11:59.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you very much. Dialogue: 0,0:11:59.51,0:12:00.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Really appreciate it. Dialogue: 0,0:12:00.88,0:12:02.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Have a good time. Dialogue: 0,0:12:02.03,0:12:02.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you. Dialogue: 0,0:12:02.53,0:12:03.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yeah, absolutely. Dialogue: 0,0:12:05.78,0:12:08.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I really should learn\Nhow to speak spanish. Dialogue: 0,0:12:08.24,0:12:08.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I know. Dialogue: 0,0:12:08.77,0:12:09.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-It's really ridiculous. Dialogue: 0,0:12:09.41,0:12:12.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I live in Los Angeles,\Nand I can't speak Spanish. Dialogue: 0,0:12:14.33,0:12:16.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You studied French. What good\Nis that for you here, huh? Dialogue: 0,0:12:16.30,0:12:17.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I know. Dialogue: 0,0:12:17.32,0:12:18.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I studied German. Dialogue: 0,0:12:18.42,0:12:21.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not really working for us,\Nour languages. Dialogue: 0,0:12:21.35,0:12:22.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I know. Dialogue: 0,0:12:24.47,0:12:26.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- See why that–\NWhat happened with that? Dialogue: 0,0:12:29.11,0:12:30.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[shutter clicks] Dialogue: 0,0:12:30.20,0:12:31.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And again. Dialogue: 0,0:12:31.79,0:12:33.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[shutter clicks] Dialogue: 0,0:12:35.76,0:12:37.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Perfecto. Dialogue: 0,0:12:37.77,0:12:38.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And again. Dialogue: 0,0:12:38.78,0:12:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[shutter clicks] Dialogue: 0,0:12:45.52,0:12:46.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[shutter clicks] Dialogue: 0,0:12:50.14,0:12:51.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Let me look at my focus. Dialogue: 0,0:12:52.76,0:12:54.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, I like\Nhow the window framed her. Dialogue: 0,0:12:54.67,0:12:55.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:12:58.40,0:12:58.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- That's nice. Dialogue: 0,0:12:58.90,0:12:59.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:12:59.41,0:13:01.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- That's a really kind face. Dialogue: 0,0:13:01.43,0:13:02.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:13:02.61,0:13:04.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So... Dialogue: 0,0:13:06.66,0:13:08.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The curator Jens Hoffmann Dialogue: 0,0:13:08.36,0:13:11.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,approached\Na group of photographers. Dialogue: 0,0:13:11.07,0:13:13.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he wanted to extend\Nthe body of work Dialogue: 0,0:13:13.76,0:13:15.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the farm security\Nadministration, Dialogue: 0,0:13:15.76,0:13:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the F.S.A. did in the 1930s Dialogue: 0,0:13:18.00,0:13:19.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,under Roosevelt Dialogue: 0,0:13:19.07,0:13:21.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that was headed by Roy Stryker. Dialogue: 0,0:13:21.22,0:13:23.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Roy Stryker was the one\Nwho got Dorothea Lange Dialogue: 0,0:13:23.27,0:13:24.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Walker Evans to make Dialogue: 0,0:13:24.76,0:13:27.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these great documents\Nof the Depression. Dialogue: 0,0:13:28.33,0:13:29.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The curator Jens Hoffmann Dialogue: 0,0:13:29.63,0:13:32.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,asked a group of\Ncontemporary art photographers Dialogue: 0,0:13:32.37,0:13:36.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to basically believe\Nthat he is Roy Stryker. Dialogue: 0,0:13:36.12,0:13:39.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he's reexamining\Nand invoking Dialogue: 0,0:13:39.74,0:13:40.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The F.S.A. Dialogue: 0,0:13:40.74,0:13:42.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,period of photography. Dialogue: 0,0:13:42.18,0:13:44.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I chose to photograph Dialogue: 0,0:13:44.74,0:13:46.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the shopkeepers\Nin my neighborhood. Dialogue: 0,0:13:48.92,0:13:51.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know what I think\Nis more than the color in these Dialogue: 0,0:13:51.34,0:13:53.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that work the best for me is Dialogue: 0,0:13:53.07,0:13:57.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the quality of light,\Nthat I have the daylight in it. Dialogue: 0,0:13:57.04,0:14:01.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think that when\Nyou're balancing strobe Dialogue: 0,0:14:01.43,0:14:03.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with daylight–\Nand that's why I took down Dialogue: 0,0:14:03.71,0:14:06.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the one of him, like, smiling\Nin the grocery store, Dialogue: 0,0:14:06.96,0:14:09.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is because it was too strobe-y. Dialogue: 0,0:14:09.32,0:14:11.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the same with the manager, Dialogue: 0,0:14:11.55,0:14:15.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it read too much\Nss press photography, actually. Dialogue: 0,0:14:15.78,0:14:19.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's trying to get away\Nfrom kind of a journalist read. Dialogue: 0,0:14:19.78,0:14:21.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And for me, part of that is Dialogue: 0,0:14:21.74,0:14:24.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what happens with light\Nin an image, Dialogue: 0,0:14:24.28,0:14:27.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I need it to be balanced\Nbetween strobe and daylight, Dialogue: 0,0:14:27.15,0:14:29.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for it to be effective\Nand for it to work for me. Dialogue: 0,0:14:30.15,0:14:31.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe... Dialogue: 0,0:14:32.22,0:14:34.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think this is\Na lovely portrait. Dialogue: 0,0:14:34.80,0:14:36.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know if that one\Nwill make it. Dialogue: 0,0:14:36.78,0:14:39.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I like it, but I don't know if\Nit's a good enough photograph. Dialogue: 0,0:14:40.50,0:14:44.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But what I know right now\Nin looking at these is, Dialogue: 0,0:14:44.19,0:14:46.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these four do something Dialogue: 0,0:14:46.05,0:14:48.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I think that I can be\Nheld with, Dialogue: 0,0:14:48.64,0:14:52.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um, you know, the next day\Ncoming into the studio Dialogue: 0,0:14:52.09,0:14:53.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the next day. Dialogue: 0,0:14:53.75,0:14:56.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But as you make more,\Nthat's the thing with editing, Dialogue: 0,0:14:56.01,0:14:59.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then you go, like, "Oh, well,\Nthis isn't gonna work now." Dialogue: 0,0:14:59.86,0:15:02.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You just move it around\Nand you move it around Dialogue: 0,0:15:02.06,0:15:05.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,until it feels\Nlike this right balance to you. Dialogue: 0,0:15:10.88,0:15:11.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Oh, my gosh. Dialogue: 0,0:15:11.96,0:15:13.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's getting so cute. Dialogue: 0,0:15:13.100,0:15:15.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Randy heavy. Dialogue: 0,0:15:15.75,0:15:16.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- are you heavy? Dialogue: 0,0:15:16.88,0:15:17.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Look at it. Dialogue: 0,0:15:17.52,0:15:18.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you want to see the dog? Dialogue: 0,0:15:18.52,0:15:20.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ooh, I can't believe\Nit cleared up the way it did. Dialogue: 0,0:15:20.31,0:15:20.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I know. Dialogue: 0,0:15:20.97,0:15:22.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The sun started coming out. Dialogue: 0,0:15:22.33,0:15:22.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was like, "Wow." Dialogue: 0,0:15:22.100,0:15:23.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I know. Dialogue: 0,0:15:24.13,0:15:26.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, you want to–\NYou want to go pick stuff, bud? Dialogue: 0,0:15:26.94,0:15:27.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let's go to the garden. Dialogue: 0,0:15:27.79,0:15:28.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- We're gonna go to the garden. Dialogue: 0,0:15:28.60,0:15:29.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- No. Dialogue: 0,0:15:29.10,0:15:29.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Uh-oh. Dialogue: 0,0:15:29.60,0:15:31.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yeah, then you can come back\Nand play with your friends. Dialogue: 0,0:15:31.80,0:15:32.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Can I go too, daddy? Dialogue: 0,0:15:32.47,0:15:33.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Huh? Dialogue: 0,0:15:33.02,0:15:33.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Can I go too? Dialogue: 0,0:15:33.79,0:15:35.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yeah, you guys can go. Dialogue: 0,0:15:35.67,0:15:36.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can go. Dialogue: 0,0:15:36.21,0:15:36.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- No practice today– Dialogue: 0,0:15:36.84,0:15:37.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I know. Dialogue: 0,0:15:37.34,0:15:38.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- So you're free. Dialogue: 0,0:15:38.34,0:15:39.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yeah, you want to come down\Nto the garden? Dialogue: 0,0:15:40.70,0:15:42.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You guys haven't been\Nto the garden in awhile. Dialogue: 0,0:15:42.30,0:15:44.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hey, Oliver, do you want\Nto get your scooter? Dialogue: 0,0:15:45.36,0:15:46.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- No?\N- I'm fine. Dialogue: 0,0:15:47.32,0:15:47.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Okay. Dialogue: 0,0:15:53.08,0:15:54.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Agh! Dialogue: 0,0:15:54.32,0:15:54.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh! Dialogue: 0,0:15:54.82,0:15:55.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ashley! Dialogue: 0,0:15:55.62,0:15:56.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[laughs] Dialogue: 0,0:15:56.94,0:16:00.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,See, this is why I need to start\Nplaying catch with Oliver. Dialogue: 0,0:16:00.93,0:16:01.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Huh? Dialogue: 0,0:16:01.43,0:16:02.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Look. Dialogue: 0,0:16:02.87,0:16:06.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of the things\Nthat drives me as a photographer Dialogue: 0,0:16:06.10,0:16:08.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is just extreme curiosity. Dialogue: 0,0:16:08.21,0:16:09.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- All right. Dialogue: 0,0:16:09.21,0:16:10.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Are you taller than me now? Dialogue: 0,0:16:11.15,0:16:12.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I think that's it. Dialogue: 0,0:16:13.18,0:16:13.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Almost. Dialogue: 0,0:16:13.92,0:16:14.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Oh, my god. Dialogue: 0,0:16:14.51,0:16:15.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You are. Dialogue: 0,0:16:15.05,0:16:16.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- All right, that's it. Dialogue: 0,0:16:16.03,0:16:17.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Early on, I was always looking Dialogue: 0,0:16:17.61,0:16:19.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the formation\Nof community Dialogue: 0,0:16:19.69,0:16:24.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in relationship to finding\Nmyself within the populace. Dialogue: 0,0:16:24.56,0:16:28.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of the reasons that I have\Nbeen driven to the idea Dialogue: 0,0:16:28.56,0:16:33.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of creating moments\Nof representation of my time is, Dialogue: 0,0:16:33.57,0:16:36.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not only finding myself\Nwithin that, Dialogue: 0,0:16:36.27,0:16:39.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's also this unbelievable\Nhuman need. Dialogue: 0,0:16:39.90,0:16:40.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- No worries. Dialogue: 0,0:16:40.53,0:16:41.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There you go. Dialogue: 0,0:16:41.53,0:16:44.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You just put\Nthat in the compost. Dialogue: 0,0:16:44.01,0:16:45.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it seems, in a certain way, Dialogue: 0,0:16:45.82,0:16:48.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm allowing myself to go back Dialogue: 0,0:16:48.38,0:16:50.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to those\Nstreet photography roots. Dialogue: 0,0:16:50.13,0:16:52.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's, like, where I land\Nand what I observe Dialogue: 0,0:16:52.76,0:16:54.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is what I'm making images of. Dialogue: 0,0:16:55.26,0:16:56.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Limbo time! Dialogue: 0,0:16:56.62,0:16:57.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Whoa. Dialogue: 0,0:17:00.00,0:17:00.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Race you! Dialogue: 0,0:17:00.64,0:17:01.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I really wanted to play. Dialogue: 0,0:17:01.88,0:17:04.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- No, you get to play right\Nafter we walk in the house. Dialogue: 0,0:17:04.19,0:17:05.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Why walking into the house? Dialogue: 0,0:17:05.51,0:17:07.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- It's how they finish\Nthe piece. Dialogue: 0,0:17:07.26,0:17:08.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're filming us. Dialogue: 0,0:17:08.29,0:17:09.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- What? Dialogue: 0,0:17:15.36,0:17:16.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Oh, look. I got a box.