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Dialogue: 0,0:00:01.64,0:00:03.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Art21 "Extended Play"]
Dialogue: 0,0:00:04.98,0:00:09.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,["Tala Madani: Sketchbooks"]
Dialogue: 0,0:00:16.14,0:00:17.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I'm working,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:17.14,0:00:20.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I draw in the mornings,\Nwhen I come to the studio
Dialogue: 0,0:00:21.66,0:00:23.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--Obama!\N[LAUGHS]
Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.18,0:00:30.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is this great story in Iran--
Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.52,0:00:32.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it was written in the '60s.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.50,0:00:36.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is something that\Nevery Iranian knows about.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:37.06,0:00:39.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's called "'Shahr-e Gheseh"
Dialogue: 0,0:00:39.08,0:00:41.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which means\N"the city of stories".
Dialogue: 0,0:00:41.62,0:00:43.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All the characters are animals.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:44.14,0:00:46.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the prettiest character is this cockroach.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.04,0:00:49.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of the parts of the story is that
Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.30,0:00:52.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this elephant who's new to town--
Dialogue: 0,0:00:52.11,0:00:53.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nobody knows her
Dialogue: 0,0:00:53.31,0:00:57.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they are really bewildered by\Nits appearance.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.56,0:01:00.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they start reshaping it.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:00.12,0:01:03.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They cut off the trunk in bits,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.33,0:01:06.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then the elephant can't recognize itself,\Nof course--
Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.50,0:01:08.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's sort of this loss of identity.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.70,0:01:17.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A lot of works from this show
Dialogue: 0,0:01:17.16,0:01:20.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were worked out more thoroughly in sketches.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:23.00,0:01:26.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's the most immediate record\Nof a thinking process, isn't it?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.82,0:01:29.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This didn't make it.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:29.94,0:01:31.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This was too violent.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:32.52,0:01:35.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In a year, I'll come to something like this
Dialogue: 0,0:01:35.68,0:01:38.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I didn't really work with in this show.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:38.40,0:01:43.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some things in the sketchbooks\Nlead to the future works.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:45.14,0:01:50.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think they're a great way of\Nkeeping track of your ideas,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:50.56,0:01:55.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because you don't necessarily have time\Nor the space to investigate each idea
Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.26,0:01:56.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as fully as you'd want.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:56.96,0:01:58.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's good to catch them
Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.68,0:02:01.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you're in the space where ideas are flowing.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:03.34,0:02:06.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a sketch for "Dirty Protest".
Dialogue: 0,0:02:08.10,0:02:10.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, in a way, I kind of knew this painting--
Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.68,0:02:13.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the image of it--\Na long time in my head, I think.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:13.33,0:02:16.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, the sketch of it was just, sort of,\Na notation for me,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:16.51,0:02:19.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I knew what I wanted to do.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:20.94,0:02:23.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The thing that's different with painting
Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.04,0:02:25.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is its materiality.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.26,0:02:29.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not to suggest at all that it's ever\Nabout paint.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.80,0:02:32.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's more about how do you use the material
Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.76,0:02:35.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to help you communicate the idea clearer.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:37.84,0:02:39.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If there's drips happening,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.94,0:02:43.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I really engage those drips\Ninto bringing the audience
Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.91,0:02:45.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,quite close to where I am.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.70,0:02:48.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That it's really about this idea again.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.19,0:02:51.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let's not get too preoccupied with\Na kind of
Dialogue: 0,0:02:51.55,0:02:54.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,perspectival concern or depth concern.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.01,0:02:56.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That this is really paint speaking to you.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.74,0:03:00.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That messes with your read of space.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:04.68,0:03:08.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I really love this idea that\Nthe painting itself has a life.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.20,0:03:14.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In a way, it's about transference of energy,\NI really think.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:16.80,0:03:22.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is this seventeenth-century idea\Nthat paintings actually had souls,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.16,0:03:26.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they were given souls by demons or angels--
Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.69,0:03:30.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and demons were not necessarily\Na bad collaborator to have.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.90,0:03:34.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If anyone is interested in\Nlooking at a painter at work,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:34.12,0:03:36.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you just have to follow the brushstrokes.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:37.44,0:03:40.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, you're seeing the action of the hand,\Nbut also the action of the thought,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:40.71,0:03:41.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ideally,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.71,0:03:43.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in following the brushstroke.