(Jingle) All ears, take it away.

Well, good morning and welcome.

This is Mike Harris on 
Veteran's Today Radio

Also simulcasting on 
Revolution Radio

Hopefully we've got
this hooked up right.

Hopefully things are 
working properly for us

and... we will see
here momentarily.

As you know yesterday we were plagued
with software issues and other problems.

But if we have done it right,

everybody should be 
hearing us on multiple

locations right now.

And as promised, our
guest today is Mr. Mehran Keshe.

Mr. Keshe, are you there?

(Mr Keshe) Yes, if I don't 
get disconnected, yes.

(Mike) Well hopefully you
won't be disconnected.

We had enough of that going on yesterday
to... last me that the rest of the year.

(laughs) Anyway, welcome
to the show, how have you been?

(Mr Keshe) Thank you very much. 
Still alive and kicking I would say.

We are still going ahead
and trying to do some useful work.

And we'll see where
we are going to go.

(Mike) Okay, now I understand that 
we have got a little special program

set up for the first half hour or 
so today, the first hour maybe.

You have got
a kids program going.

And... I wanted to have 
you participate with...

what are you
teaching the young folks?

(Mr Keshe) What we have
decided is that it is no good to wait

and try and to teach them the new science

when they already got their
degrees or they are in high school.

So, what we
decided a few months ago

is that we will start
teaching the basic language

of the new plasma
technology to children.

(Mike) - Ok Euh.!?..

(Mr K) By teaching the children the adults
are learning more than the children do.

So we are entering the backdoor
to teach the adults and the children

at the same time.

(Mike) Okay, so you have 
a program going today.

So we are going to be allowed to
listen in and eavesdrop on your class?

(Mr K) It is not a class,
it is an open session, is run

by a gentleman called
Keyvan Davani from Austria.

(Mike) Okay.

(Mr Keshe) So we expect him to be 
online if he is, he is usually around.

And he sets the scene on what he thinks 
children need to know or want to know.

So I don't know if he is available,

Rick Crammond can see
him in the background.

(Mike) Okay Rick, do you
have him in the background?

<i>Silence</i>

If possible yes, 
let's go ahead and try.

And if we can't, we will just
make stuff up and wing it.

(Mr Keshe laughs)

<i>Silence</i> (They are waiting)

Okay.

<i>Silence</i> (They are waiting again)

No I can't unless I've got a Skype ID 
for him, I have to send him a request

so it's a little late in the game for
that since we're already broadcasting.

(Mr Keshe) Maybe we can carry on with,
he is there, he is in the background.

(Mike) Oh, okay
guys, it is no big deal.

(Mr Keshe)
He is there. I can see...

(Keyvan) Yeah ! Can you hear me?

(Mike) Hi Keyvan, you
are on with Mike Harris here

you are on a live radio broadcast 
on theveterans.com radio station

as well as Revolution Radio Networks.

So you've got
two audiences out here

listening to you right now, 
and welcome to the show!

(Keyvan) Thank you
very much Mike. Thank you.

(Mike) So we are talking
to Mr. Keshe about this kids program

and that how much easier it is 
to teach kids the new physics.

Than to try to reeducate 
them and make them forget

conventional physics before 
they can learn the new physics.

So what is this process about?

It is an open question for anybody 
who wants to answer. How does this work?

(Keyvan) The way
I originally envisioned it is...

since the children are our future

I thought that it is a brilliant idea
to give this other half of the physics

or the things we have not 
been learning in school.

Namely the plasma
science that stands on its own.

... Teach that from
the roots to the children

and simultaneously to their parents.

Because these are totally new principles
which need to be really understood

and comprehended as
a totality, as Mr. Keshe used to say.

(Mike) Okay. 
So what are we teaching here?

How are you transferring 
the knowledge to these kids?

(Keyvan) The thing is...
it all starts with

the principles of this science
are the fields or the plasma.

And...this is ....Mr. Keshe...
has really well illustrated this

in the very first kids workshops with..
magnets with ring magnets for example.

And he shows how the fields...
How we are surrounded by fields.

how magnets, ring magnets, interact
with one another through their fields

through magnetical and 
gravitational fields.

And the fields form the plasma.
So before we speak about the fields,

Mr Keshe's intention 
was to teach to the kids

the correct principles and that
is plasma as a science for itself.

(Mike) Okay. How do the kids absorb this?
How are they taking to it?

Are we doing well?

(Keyvan) Well, kids I guess are 
following the kids workshops,

we haven't had so many chances because 
there are a lot of obstacles and barriers,

for example the language barrier.
There are a lot of parents that would be

interested but they don't have the time
or they don't speak the English language

and that is a barrier for itself, so
we will find a way I am sure,

to overcome this obstacles,

because it is not about 
English speaking children

but it's all about 
the children on this planet earth.

So we need to, you know, 
build up a structure, eventually I see it,

once the University
structure in Italy start off

that we simultaneously are building
structures to teach all children

not only English language but transcribe 
it, translate it into other languages.

Starting, you know,
with the very basic stuff

with the very basic
principles what is plasma.

(Mike) What is plasma, 
why don't you tell us?

(Keyvan) Plasma consists
of magnetical and gravitational fields

which is, for me
if I may explain that,

maybe Mr. Keshe 
can do that much better

but it's about 
attraction and repulsion.

So these are two basic 
principal actions which take place

and the plasma is nothing 
else than finding a balance

of magnetical and gravitational
fields and once you have a plasma,

with another plasma, with another plasma,
then you go into the matter of physics.

That is, whatever, that is, you know,
a molecules, physics, chemistry biology

which we have been taught in school 
or whatever in college, University.

This is about the essence and 
natural principles of creation.

This is how I perceive it,
how I understand it.

And it can truly be
a lot of fun. If I may say that.

(Mike) Okay, so...
I just lost my train of thought,

you have to forgive me we are 
juggling with some technical issues here.

<i>Silence</i>

That will be
outstanding, thank you.

(Mr Keshe) While Rick 
is trying to get that,

let us explain something
which is very fundamental.

Dr. Davani uses a term magnetical. 
This term is unknown to common people,

but within the Keshe Foundation
it is very well used and understood.

One of the problems
we have in the world of physics

is, everything is magnetic.We call it
"The Magnetic Field of the Earth"

So, what we have made it very clear, when 
you have a magnet, they attract each other

or they repel each other.

So, we call the attraction gravitational 
and the repulsion which is the interaction

the interaction of two magnetic fields
of two entities............ magnetical.

So it is a clear separation and calling 
the magnetic field of the Earth

is magnetical field of the earth, 
because it is the repulsion fields,

which every entity
of the universe has.

Earth has two things at the same time:
gravitational and magnetical

which is a repulsion what we call that
creates the atmosphere of this planet.

So we totally we call them 
Magnetical and Gravitational

which means the fields forces created
by interaction of two plasmatic fields

And then for short we call it 
magrav, Magnetic Gravitational.

So every plasma has both 
magnetical repulsion and attraction.

Is when you have two magnets
if you have 2 similar poles

they attract each other
the term in English 'gravitation'

they gravitate towards each other.
And if you put two similar poles

facing each other they
push against each other.

because it means they need 
a gap to allow all the fields

to go from one 
entity in to the other.

So, the separation point
fields we call it magnetical

and the interaction of the two 
magnetical and gravitational

makes the magnet 
that makes the plasma.

The term which we don't 
use is North and South

because we call it 
the entry pole and the exit pole.

Like Earth, it has got an entry pole 
where all the fields go through

the South Pole, the bottom.

And as they go through the planet
Earth they absorb some of the fields

which are within the planet released 
by the atomic structure nuclear decay

and the rest of 
the materials in the planet.

And when they come out of 
the North Pole or the exit point

they are much stronger 
than when they went in.

And we see this clearly by the 
temperature difference between

the North Pole and the South Pole.
There is a temperature difference

on Earth of about 5 degrees, because
the stronger field in interaction with the

the friction and because they are
stronger they release more energies,

so we see a warmer pole
compared to the South

and we see this on the Sun's 
30 degrees temperature difference

between the exit pole 
and the entry pole at the South.

So, this is how we explain 
the new physics that it is understood.

These are ambiguities 
in the world of physics

which we never understood.
We never knew... why.

For example we create
light on Earth on the surface.

Why we have light when ever 
there is interaction of the fields.

Now we can explain these things.

At the same time we show 
in a simple way to children

that plasma is not 
a two directional field

but is spherical and 
their interaction counts.

And understanding this, 
if you have two magnets,

a ring magnet or you can make
a spherical magnet as a plasma.

If you bring them together, 
not flat on the table, but standing up,

you find out
the field is much extended

and the direction of flow of one dictates 
the direction of flow of the other one.

And so if, for example, you put 
two magnets on the floor, on the table,

if you bring one magnet
which is slightly weaker

it can go closer or 
further from the other one.

So it's the gravitational magnetical field

which dictates the position of 
one magnet in respect to another

or one plasma in respect to another.

So the position of the Earth 
is dictated by the gravitational fields

and magnetical fields of 
the Earth in respect to the Sun.

And, so in a simple way, we try to get
the youngsters to understand the totality

and then they find 
their own way to explain

the whole structure 
of the physics and chemistry.

And this is how simple children 
understand and in a way now we understand

for example, as we say in our
teachings, why Venus rotates clockwise.

We know this because the hypocrisy that 
for example Venus was hit by the meteorite

that changed its 
direction is totally non acceptable

because we can show 
with the systems we have,

Venus is rotating clockwise
due to gravitational magnetic field

created by internally and 
its position in respect to the Sun.

And if we increase the power of
the Sun the planet will rotate clockwise

which we can show it 
which has been shown a number of times.

Or if we increase 
the gravitational magnetic field of Mars

we will start going 
clockwise... anti-clockwise.

So the hypocrisy that Venus is rotating
in the opposite direction is not correct.

It is the physical interaction of the 
plasmatic magnetical and gravitational

field of the planet 
in respect to the strength

of the gravitational magnetical field of
the sun and its position at this moment.

When Venus gets pulled 
further in a few million years

it will start going clockwise 
like every other planet.

And you can see this in experiments we
have shown before in different teachings.

So we are teaching the correct
way the true work of the Physics

not assumptions which 
have been made up to now.

<i>Silence</i>

(Mike) Tried to watch 
the livestream feed

but I can't see it here, so
I am at a disadvantage on that.

So, what else do we
want to share with the listeners

relative to the kids workshops?

(Mr Keshe) You have Mike on the line?

(Mike Nashif) Yes Mr. Keshe, Mike is here.

I just wanted to say thank you
Mike for having us on the show.

It's an honor.

(Mike Harris) Well 
the pleasure is mine and thank you.

(Mike Nashif) All right.
For the livestream, for the kids.

Rick, if you can pull up the picture
number one of magnetic polarity... for me.

And I'll start explaining. I am going to
try to be as visual as I can with my words

so that the radio listeners 
can understand as well.

(Mike Harris) Okay, go ahead.

(Mike Nashif) We have about a 30
seconds delay between the livestream and

the video, so I am waiting for
it to come up.

All right.

Magnetic polarity... is...
talking about the fundamental elements

whether in space 
as Mr. Keshe calls them.

What do you call them Mr. Keshe?

(Mr Keshe) I am listening.

(Mike Nashif) I am trying to remember. 
They are called anti-matter and matter.

(Mr Keshe) We call it principal 
matter and transition matter.

(Mike Nashif) That is correct. The
principal matter and the transition matter.

What you are seeing on the
screen are blue circles and red circles

that have pluses and minuses...ok?.

The plus is the positive polarity.
The minus is the negative polarity, ok?

And they have invisible 
rings or spheres around them.

that dictate whether or not 
they are attracted to the other.

Ok? Just like any magnets.

Ok? If you put two ends 
together that have the same polarities

they are going to repel...Right?

So....in nature, 
in space, all around us

ok? We have these positive 
and negative principal fields

that are constantly searching for
each other, and they are attracted, ok?

So, next slide Rick.

When they finally meet each other
right? They are attracted magnetically

just like you'd have at 
the opposite ends of the magnet

they are stuck together right?

So, what happens is 
that you have the positive charge

and you have the negative charge 
and when they join together...ok?

they create a spark of life....ok?

Not necessarily life, 
but the spark of life.

And...

Almost instantaneously 
if not instantaneously

there is a protective bubble a lot 
like if you had to picture a soap bubble

that comes around 
the two principal fields..ok?

And what happens is that the two 
DC currents from the principal fields

the red and the blue, 
when they join..Ok?

That electricity, that energy 
has to go somewhere..ok?

So it goes in a circle. But just 
because there are two circles there?

It is an infinity loop.

In other words it is constantly going 
to be moving in a clockwise direction.

So I want you to imagine taking a wire
or a tube or anything that is circular.

It is flexible. And twisting it in half.

So,in the middle they cross 
and you have two smaller circles.

That is what we are 
trying to picture here.

Now, what happens is that 
DC current from the negative side

will start in the center 
it will go up to the right on the red

and it will follow 
the rotation of the Earth to the right.

When it meets in the middle

it switches polarity and 
turns into a positive polarity.

And then it follows it 
to the left all the way around

and then it comes back to the centre where
it switches back to the negative polarity.

When that happens....
that is when .......

alternating current....
is formed in our nanoworld.

Right, next slide, Rick.

The principal fields...

in my descriptions I have them as: 
Matter, Anti-Matter and Dark Matter.

That is you know for verification by 
Mr. Keshe but here is my perception of it.

The...

positive side is the matter side...ok?

The negative side 
is the anti-matter side.

All right and when 
the two of them come together

they create that field around it and 
that holds the dark matter between.

The dark matter 
is the matter anti-matter

I am not going to say that, 
because I am not 100% sure.

When matter and anti-matter 
join together they share electricity.

They don't combine together but are held 
together like magnets on a metal surface.

Picture batteries 
in your devices at home.

You should be able to see it.
The two batteries on there.

The positive terminal on
your battery has a little nipple on it

and then your flat side 
is your negative terminal.

So if you are looking at 
the two batteries you can...

kind of visualize... how 
the current is going to flow

from those 
batteries into your device.

Remember there are 
two ends to the batteries.

So you are going 
to have two currents ...

started and then they are combined 
together to give power to your device.

Next slide

Slide number 4.

AC or alternating current is created 
when the electrons start in the center

and move like the hands of a clock or 
clockwise and cross over the center again.

Once it crosses, it changes
polarity and switches back and forth.

It alternates between 
positive and negative.

Hence, alternating current.

To kind of give you a perspective on the 
amount of energy we are working with here.

One cycle or one hertz 
as we call it in the electronics industry,

is one complete cycle through 
the circuit that an electron has to follow.

No matter how big the circuit is, if you
just had one electron that went in there

it would take it one second to 
complete an entire circuit for one hertz.

To kind of give you an idea, most 
homes have 110 v, 240 v at 60 hertz

which means that 
your home, your electricity runs

through your home 
60 times per second.

Now, when you are 
dealing with nano-hertz.

One hertz....
One nano-hertz...

Excuse me ONE HERTZ is equal to 
one trillion nano-hertz per second.

Trillion!

Next slide

That's a lot of 
power for a single atom.

All right, next slide

(Someone in the background) 
"It's next slide"

...silence...

(Mike Nashif) All right

Can you still hear me?

(M Harris) We hear you fine you sound good
(Mike Nashif) Ok, it's really quiet

Next slide, Rick

Making AC by nano-coating.

What we're dealing with 
all of this technology that Mr Keshe

has been so graciously 
willing to share with the world.

It's all dealing with 
nano-coating, dealing with atoms.

Taking the power of 
something that we see everyday

like a standard piece of 
copper wire or something

and turning that copper wire...
...into... a trillion times more power.

And that's what we're working 
with on the nano-coating process

we're taking everyday stuff.

In this picture 
you'll see my depiction

It's very hard to describe atoms 
being stripped off of the copper

and then being oxidized and being
attracted back to the copper wire.

So, in the picture you're 
going to see a bunch of red dots

and what I call.... 
the negatively charged nano-particles.

They should actually be copper 
particles coming off of the copper wire.

It strips it and like 
a slingshot it automatically pulls it back

because it's magnetized to that copper.

But you'll see what we call and with the 
Keshe Foundation the caustic procedure.

It may not be perfectly as 
the way Mr Keshe does it

but this is what's worked for me and this
is what I know that works... for sure.

So, you put aluminum foil 
pieces inside of a plastic container.

I cut mine up to about four inch
squares and I covered the entire bottom.

And then I put plastic coke bottle tops 
the one where you screw the lid on to it,

without the lid

but I cut the top off and I leave 
maybe an inch or so of plastic on it.

I add a couple of those 
next to your aluminum foil.

Then you add sodium hydroxide
or in this case I used Drano crystals

that I buy at Walmart.

You have to use the crystals, you can't
use the liquid that I know as right now.

And then you add boiling hot 
water to it with your copper in there

and you put the lid 
on it...right? It's going to steam....

and the steam in there is what's going
to rip the atoms off of that copper wire.

And it changes the atmosphere 
around the wire, so now it's no longer....

positively charged.

It's negatively 
charged when it came off.

As soon as 
it's stripped off of the copper wire

it becomes negatively charged and 
is attracted back to the copper, right?

If it's done right I believe that Mr Keshe
has told us you can't see a nano-layer,

a complete nano-layer but at 15,000 layers
thick, is when it starts to turn black.

That we can see with 
our visible eye. So if it's all black

then you can pretty much 
guarantee that your entire wire is covered.

Or the material that 
you are using, any copper piece.

Next slide

When you nano-coat 
ordinary objects like bare copper

you change its natural 
polarity on its surface.

In my picture you can see
that the polarity inside of the wire

is still positively charged.

But the outside of the wire has all of 
these negatively charged copper atoms

that are stuck to it like a magnet.

So, bare copper is 
naturally positively charged.

The negatively charged nano-materials 
stick to the copper like teeny tiny magnets.

Next slide

As....slide number 7....

....silence....

This is the last slide.

(Mike Harris) Ok, 
the last slide, we will give you five

more minutes and 
then we've got to move on.

(M Nashif) Yes sir 
this is the last slide.

(Mike Harris) No worries, 
we're all good, all good.

(Mike Nashif) All right.

When the first fundamental 
elements come together,

they make a duality or an infinity
loop as opposed to before, right?

Slide number 7 shows you how to make 
an infinity loop and create a duality

using copper wire 
and then nano-coating it.

First one you bend the wire in half right?
You are going to have a round edge.

N°2 twist the round end clockwise.

N°3 connect the two open ends
and twist them together clockwise.

And then you nano-coat your wire

and that is how you 
complete an infinity loop

And the next section 
when this happens we'll go into

what happens 
after you nano-coat it.

But that is my presentation for the kids. 
...I do have the kids here on the line

They're waiting if 
you'd like to speak with them.

(Mike Harris) Well thank you 
very much, I appreciate your time

but I think we're going 
to keep the show moving

we've got a lot 
of material to cover

But tell the kids we said hi!

And hopefully they'll stick with this and
learn a lot and be the next generation

to advance this 
new physics technology.

(M Nashif) Well thank you very much
for having us and I appreciate your time.

(Mike Harris) Thank you, 
the pleasure is mine.

Okay, Mr Keshe, welcome back.

(Mr Keshe) Yes, thank you very much.

Maybe I can just explain something 
very simple in what was just explained.

You have to understand the significance 
of what was just taught, to a child.

To produce nano-material 
on the material itself

has been unknown until 
we released this technology.

And to produce these pure 
nano-layers, or nano-materials

has been costing millions 
of dollars for different governments

to be able to produce 
a pure nano-material.

They can produce 
nano-material as less than 1 cent.

And then now we are teaching how 
this can be used for energy production

for farming and the rest of it in 
the Keshe Foundation teachings

and that is why we are 
opening the university next month.

Bringing science to absolute basic

that you do not need 
to be a genius anybody can do.

At the same time every man 
in every corner of the planet

can feed himself if they know how to use
this technology as we are teaching now.

And how to produce energy at no cost.

It's a very simple language but it has
a huge significance in nano-technology.

Up till now nano-technology 
has been the very big thing

like when nuclear 
was in the '70s and '80s.

Now you can see how simple 
nano-technology is and has become

through the new discoveries and 
the simplest we've ever produced it.

(somebody speaking in the background)

(M Harris) Somebody's got speaker open
I'm hearing a feedback loop of my own voice

we'll have to turn that 
speaker down or mute it, who ever.

Okay,

All right, anyway, Mr Keshe you've been
working on some other things as well.

Why don't you give us an 
update as most of the listeners know

I was there to visit you in December 
a week or so before Christmas.

And I got to see a lot of things 
going on in your location near Lake Garda.

But since then I understand 
you've relocated and you moved

and tell us what's new in the world.

(Mr Keshe) We are moving we haven't moved 
yet, we'll be moving in the next 48 hours.

The reason for move is that 
we have come to collaboration

with LUM University in the south of Italy

and in partnership we have established
a Keshe Foundation Space Institute.

Which means we start accepting students
in a masters and undergraduates

to teach the new 
principles of the technology.

So, in the past year - over a year -

we have been teaching
individuals here in Lake Garda.

Now, we go to the south 
of Italy in the beautiful facilities

if you go on the 
spaceshipinstitute.org

you can see the video, the presentation, 
and where we are going to.

Where we can mass 
teach the technology

and we have departed from the present
situation of everything has to be hidden.

Our lectures 
will be broadcast live

and the workshops like this 
twice a week will be done live.

Anything we discover or any
development done by the Keshe Foundations

around the world ...will be shared 
openly, so we don't believe in patents.

The knowledge like the way Mike just 
explained to making a nano-material

is not a secret 
it's open, you can do it.

And we teach in Chinese, 
translation in Spanish,

translation in Italian 
and for the children.

We have a medical section... 
teaching and we have general workshops.

So, if your dream has 
been to become an astronaut

or you wanted 
to become a space scientist

now you can do it in 
the environment of the Spaceship Institute.

So, we are moving down south,
800km from where we are now

and the official opening of 
the institute is on the 23rd of April.

And...

a number of dignitaries have been invited 
by the university and by the foundation.

And I think you might hear one of 
them was coming in as well if I'm correct.

(Mike) Well, we think we've got 
a dignitary scheduled to come in

we think we got one, I agree too 
but you know, I'm pretty sure we do.

(Mr Keshe) You've got somebody 
you know very well invited to as a speaker.

(Mike) Yes I do. Got that
taken care of but we're going to

keep his name off the air right now 
he's primarily a pretty shy individual

so we'll keep that 
in the back channel right now.

(Mr Keshe) So, if your dream has been to
go to space or learn about space technology

this is the opportunity which we're giving
to every man and woman on this planet.

And we start in September, 
hopefully this year or latest next year.

The same kind of education 
from basic foundation for children.

So, we teach children from primary 
school up to the graduation as masters.

And at the same time as you are fully
aware one of our knowledge seekers

in America is trying to set up the
Spaceship Institute of the United States

as a university course or organization

and we have already spoken 
with our Chinese colleagues

that to start the Chinese 
Keshe Foundation Spaceship Institute

that the Chinese can carry on
with the same thing in the space.

(Mike) So, Mr Keshe what you're 
doing is somewhat of a novel approach

in that this technology that you're
exploring, developing, propagating

you're not limiting it to any one
country but you're sharing it freely

with every country 
around the world.

What is your purpose 
and intention behind this?

I already know the answer 
but I want the listeners to know.

(Mr Keshe) 
Our intention is world peace

When everybody has the same 
thing and the same technology

when there is no hunger, 
when there is no shortage of energy

when there is no shortage of food when
there is no pollution, we will find peace.

Man always has progressed 
when has been a peace time

Much faster than the war time.

On the other hand, they say 
it's a dream but we don't have a dream

you can go on all the Keshe Foundation
teachings and the forum and the livestream

You see people around 
the world are doing everything the same.

They are growing, testing plants, 
they are creating energy, they are testing

the cleaning of the environment 
using a material that captures of CO2.

If you go on our website, 
keshefoundation.org

you see we're setting the only 
organisation in the world who is marketing

physically units which 
capture the CO2 from the air.

But because 
we've been up to now

an institution with an Iranian 
nuclear physicist at the head of it,

now that we're becoming an international
institute you will see it go public.

What this means, we've 
never seen gasses in a solid state.

So now when we develop the technology in a
simple you can buy it for about $29 or €35

or whatever it is on the site,

and you can capture 
the CO2 from there in a solid state

it's a whitish creamish colour

and then not only capture it, 
which will help the environment,

then you can use it to do 
all sorts of things with it.

You go on the Keshe Foundation website
and the livestream and you see what

the Chinese are doing, 
what the Mexicans are doing

what different scientists around 
the world are doing with this thing.

(Mike) Well, Mr Keshe, 
what are they doing with this?

(Mr Keshe) They are using 
it for the production of energy

they are using it as fertilizer 
they are using it to create

high, what do you call it, 
value.. magnetic fields.

As you know....what do you call it, 
the laboraties in the US....

have used megawatts of 
energy to produce about 100 tesla.

Late last year, we managed to 
produce 129 tesla with only 12 watts.

And so, [inaudible] using 
such a heavy power to use it

cannot accept it because they do not
understand the power of the plasma

they are using on 
the vibration of electron.

We are testing flight system, 
we have managed to reduce weight

to increase weight 
and at the same time, it's...

I am not spoonfeeding but I am teaching 
that everybody learns at the same time.

At the moment today

the Japanese government 
has spent millions of dollars up to now

on the situation with Fukushima 
using the Keshe foundation technology.

It's one of the only hopes 
last hopes left to find a solution.

We have received waters from
the Fukushima plant, tested it.

One of our knowledge seekers 
last year live showed it in Japan

how it can be 
absorbed the radiation.

The scientists in Japan with the 
instruction of the office of the Prime Minister

and Ministry of Finance

watched the presentation 
live from Fukushima

and they took all 
the data which was there

and they took all the material
which was left and they tested it.

They found there is 
a possibility of a solution.

So, they brought 
the waters for us, we tested it?

they took material back from us 
and the 4th stage of the final stage

has been going on for 
the past four weeks and hopefully

it will be completed by 
the end of this month or early April.

Where, by adding 
materials which we have suggested

and I explained to the scientists at 
Fukushima plant &amp; the Japanese government

a few drops of the material 
reduces the radiation to absolute zero.

And then 
the decontamination can start.

Because at the moment the biggest
problem is caesium and tritium.

We have shown that 
how we can literally bring

the radiation 
of tritium's gamma rays to zero.

We do not destroy
this is the beauty of it.

We do not destroy 
the caesium, we don't do anything.

But by introducing the new 
material into the environment,

we create a condition where 
the radiation loops back in on itself.

So, it does not leak 
into the environment.

When you do examinations of different 
high level scientific tests on it,

it shows that it's still as caesium but
without radiation, which has been unknown.

This is exactly what Mike 
explained, in a very simple way.

We create a loop in conjunction with 
a radioactive material so the radiation

instead going into the
environment gets into the infinity loop.

And we have seen this now, 
there are further developments with this..

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.....radiation. We have shown it.

If you go on the Internet, look at 
the Fukushima plant Keshe Foundation.

you see the tests done on the waters
of the fire station in Fukushima last May

by one of our knowledge seekers...
[inaudible]

A beautiful woman who joined us 
as a knowledge seeker now she's left us.

It showed that there was 
zero radiation and clean water.

It's a huge application,

hopefully we see some results 
from it from the Japanese government,

they'll be open and 
they will publish their report

and their situation 
has been so positive

that we have literally flown three 
different amounts of different materials

to Fukushima directly for testing.

They asked for [inaudible] results 
are there and at the same time,

this allows to literally muffle
the whole of the reactor n°1

in Fukushima directly in the plant 
without moving any material from the site.

This is a huge breakthrough, if we 
come with the data and everything agrees

then even Chernobyl can be muffled 
very safely and any other nuclear plant.

(Mike) So, there might be a method 
to take all of the 457 nuclear plants

around the world that obviously have
defective designs and safely retire them

so that we will no longer living with 
that ever present danger hanging over us?

(Mr Keshe) No we don't need to close 
them but we know if anything happens

we have a position 
to be able to safeguard ourselves.

There is a position now that we are 
looking at development of the extraction

of the radioactive material
from the environment on air.

We can do it from the water.

We have to wait 
another two to three weeks

till the Japanese government 
announces their test results.

Our material has already been 
tested, they know, but they are looking for

a continuity of the results 
because of the position we've taken.

Italian nuclear center has 
already confirmed the reduction

in the caesium... a radiation, 
a gamma ray but they don't understand

the work of the nano-materials
the way we produce it.

And...in a way we don't need 
to muffle the nuclear reactors.

We can run them and know them 
we don't need to decommission them.

We can add this material to the
system and let it run for years and years

It's a huge change in 
the nuclear industry.

It depends on how much 
the American government

allows the Japanese 
to leak out in the report.

We know what we've done,
we know what can be done.

So, in a way we don't need to go to 
huge costs of decommissioning,

we just add 
the material to the reactor

and the reactor stays 
safe for millions of years.

Because, the number of nuclear materials
in the fuel is constant, it doesn't change

even if it decays,
you can still add material

so you lock the fields of 
the neutron into the field of one material.

Let me explain to some things 
which people think are very funny.

The radiation from any nuclear 
material comes from the excess energy

which is gravitational 
magnetical fields of the neutron.

So, neutron is trying to decay to 
become an atom, electron and a proton,

a hydrogen atom.

So, if we can allow 
the excess energy of that neutron

to be locked up to the material 
then you have no nuclear radiation

So, nuclear materials become safe.
We need this technology for a space.

There is something which is fundamental, 
we call it Keshe Spaceship Institute.

We developed these technologies
for high field radiation in the space.

So, this is a good test for us 
that in the space we don't get radiation.

And we don't have the dangers of
the radiation in the deepest space

because it's full of gamma and above 
gamma rays which we are not aware of now.

One of the problems our astronauts 
have at the moment, all of them,

if you read their reports, 
they see flashing lights in their eyes.

Like a camera flash.

And this camera flash they see is 
the high radiation doses which crosses

their brain and it gets 
into the liquid of their eye

and becomes a light,
it becomes a photon.

If you are in deepest space and absorb so 
much energy in your brain on the long-term,

you will go mental, 
you become, God knows, demented.

So, we need to develop 
technologies to protect man in deep space

from high level radiation

and unfortunately for the human 
race but fortunately for the new science

we have a condition of
Fukushima where we can test it deeply.

So...this is part of the process now.

(Mike) Let me just 
give you my impression

of whenever I was there
to visit you, last December.

And that was, you had put together
what seemed like many of the pieces

to... take mankind in the space,

whether it's the growing of 
synthetic proteins for food

whether it was an anti-grav lift 
system, whether it was the nano-materials

for light and energy. 
It seems like you were trying to put

together all the discrete components 
needed to build a holistic environment

that would allow 
mankind to survive in space.

That was my impression, 
that's what I wrote in my report.

So, why don't you confirm 
for me how right or wrong I was.

(Mr Keshe) You are 100% right.
I am a nuclear physicist.

I have a line of thinking that going to 
space, living in what I call a fuel tank,

we call it, whatever, a space lab
floating like a leaf is not natural.

And secondly, if we lose the line 
of food or energy to the lab they die.

So, I looked at the structure of the 
universe, how planetery sytems work.

They produce their own energy, they produce
their own light, they produce their own heat,

they produce their own protection 
they produce everything is needed.

So, we have replicated 
the technology and it seems to be correct.

The only problem is.. that now we can
go to space without ever looking back

on the planet when
the next supply will come.

As you were in the lab you've seen it.
From the fresh air we produce protein

which is natural, I have explained it 
in my papers and now in the past few weeks

we have shown how we can 
produce hemoglobin from fresh air.

It has been 
documented in the teachings.

And now we have the facility to produce 
a full, sustainable life in deep space

where you have a zero gravity, as you have
now in the space lab, it's non-existence.

You have a one G condition.
You live the lifestyle as on Earth.

You produce...what you breathe out as CO2 
and the other materials from your body

becomes the food of 
the amino acid that becomes your food

and then the energy is the same.

We are according to the people
at the highest level in NASA,

we are 50-70 years ahead of 
NASA and any other space program.

The reason we are unknown has been,
as I told you, the color of my passport.

If I would have had an American passport, 
I would have been a modern Einstein.

But having an Iranian and not changing my
nationality for 40 years living in Europe

is the biggest curse for them.

But it's a beautiful thing because it's 
allowing us to develop the technology

in a very deep way, but across humanity.

There are over a hundred 
Keshe Foundations around the world

in small groups or national groups.

This is good for us because
the route is learning how to do it.

Man on the street has become a 
scientist and he can help himself to produce

energy and food and
we are teaching him how to do it.

(Mike) Mr Keshe, 
I hear our break music coming up

we're gonna have 
about a three minutes break.

So everyone can get 
some refreshments or whatever,

we'll be back in a few 
minutes right after this short break.

Stick with us, folks. 
More with Mr Keshe. Be right back.

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It's Tuesday, March 17th, St Patrick's
Day for those of you out there, 2015.

My guest today is Mr Keshe
So, Mr Keshe, welcome back.

(Mr Keshe) Thank you very much.

(Mike) Where do you want to go from here?
I think I have some questions for you.

and staff. 
And like I stated, it seems like you

put together all the essential 
components to get mankind in the space.

What are your next steps, what is your
timeline, what are the ultimate goals?

(Mr Keshe) The ultimate goal is taking 
mankind to space in a peaceful manner.

The ultimate goal is 
to establish peace on this planet

that we an work
collectively as one race

not on the different 
names and nationalities and flags.

And as I see, the way I see it 
happening around millions of supporters of

Keshe Foundation around the world.
We have managed to bring a group

of people who are of the same kind 
and they are growing very rapidly.

Where, as you've seen, Mike and the others
in the Keshe Foundations around the world.

They are sharing knowledge that they
all be equal and equality brings peace.

And that's our goal. When we go 
to space, we go out as a peaceful race

because in space we will be
annihilated if we think of war.

There are much more 
advanced races than us.

and they know how to wipe us out
if we go out with the wrong intentions.

So, if you are peaceful, you guarantee
the survival of man in the space.

Secondly, anyone who supports us or has
any connection with the Keshe Foundation,

we ask them to sign themselves into
what we call the world peace treaty.

That not only they don't think about
war or weapons or taking part in one.

They don't even
work or act in that field.

So, as more people are stop
doing it because they signed themselves

into peace treaty...then we will 
achieve world peace in a very rapid way.

But the world 
peace cannot be a talk.

We are the only organization not 
only talking about achieving world peace

but we are delivering 
the tools for it to be achieved.

(Mike) Well, let me ask a question 
because you just said something interesting

and that is that they 
can't participate in war at all

and I think this probably 
includes the business of war.

So, if you are 
a metalworker for instance

and you're working for a company 
that makes missiles that are used in war,

you would quit your job and go find
some other job in the metalworking space?

And not have anything to do with
continuing the business of war if you will?

(Mr Keshe) The problem with 
your line of talking is totally irrelevant

in respect to the Keshe Foundation.

When the computers came they said 
it's gonna put a lot of people out of work.

This is the same process,
it's going to create so much jobs

that we don't know 
what to do with it.

The technology in a touch you've
just seen explained to you,

how to make nano-materials.

There is so much to do,
now we are creating systems

to detect plasma in three 
dimensional, in magnetical and gravitational.

Now we produced a CO2 kit through 
the same thing we call the pain pads

that you can just put it 
around the pain in your body

and within a few times 
usage, the pain goes.

So, we start by not talking but
releasing technology into public.

You can go on the Keshe 
Foundation and buy these systems.

Other people 
have started doing it.

Then now it's the cleaning of the air 
then it's the cleaning of the water.

And then it's everything else 
producing food without fertilizer.

One of the biggest things at the moment
is Monsanto with their seed control.

If you dip your seed for a few seconds or
a few minutes into the CO2 you capture

from the air, which is in the bukett
you can buy from the Keshe Foundation,

you destroy any genetic 
modification done to the seed.

So it starts having applications.

(Mike) Okay wait, let me
make sure that this is clear

because I want the listeners to 
understand this because I don't.

So, if we take this CO2, this gas 
that has been turned into a solid,

-(Mr Keshe) It's a liquid state
-(Mike) into a liquid state,

and then you take, let's say
Monsanto's genetically modified corn

that's got other genetics in it.
It will reverse the genetic modification

and turn it back into a
pristine state as if it were natural?

(Mr Keshe) Yes, because 
we tested it, we know we are correct.

We ran trials for nearly four or five 
years, I've done different tests myself.

What happens, you have to
understand the science behind it.

Otherwise it is a fairy tale.

A gans, what we call CO2, is
a nest of nano-plasma of CO2.

Mike explained to you nano-layering, 
when they are attached to each other.

We've developed a technology in a very
simple way exactly as a leaf of a tree.

A leaf absorbs CO2, there is no 
mechanism there is no factory

inside the tree to absorb 
CO2 and give oxygen back.

We have discovered 
a method of doing it.

So, what you do, we have 
created an environment

where creates the plasmatic 
conditions magnetic fields of a CO2

which absorbs exactly like a leaf 
CO2 from the tree and it changes it

to the sap what it captured as 
CO2 in a solid, liquid state.

Now, this, your tool, 
is a plasma, a plasma is a sun,

the Sun is a plasma 
it releases energy.

So when you put your seeds 
inside the liquid for a few seconds

or a few minutes, because 
the tests have been done by scientists

in the next few weeks, I don't have
a time to finish checking the paper,

we release the pictures and 
everything of the growth of the seed.

So the energy of the seed interacts
with the seed itself and literally

it's like what you call it, 
deactivates what's been activated

according to the density 
of the field in the seed.

So, what there's been added 
to the genetics of the seed

automatically it goes back to itself

it's exactly how it works 
in Fukushima, we absorb the energy.

They added to it, 
so you take away from it

or it gets mixed into 
or added by the CO2 to the seed.

And when you cultivate it, 
you go back to the original

We've even seen the seeds which 
have been left for two or three hours

and sometimes two or three
days....when you grow them

the wheat becomes 
like grass, it grows like a grass,

you can cut it, like a grass.
It goes back to its origine, that far.

So, in time, now that 
we are opening the universities

section of the university, now the Spanish
have started the Spanish Keshe Foundation

as started a Spanish speaking
Keshe Foundation from Mexico.

They have started even putting 
CO2 in the ring around the tree to see

how it grows without 
actually touching the seed

So, you use the field of it.
The changes are played.

The universe works on plasma, 
the universe is created out of plasma

and the universe operates
totally on the plasma condition.

Atom is a plasma of two 
plasmas, electron and a proton.

Electron is a plasma, Sun is 
a plasma, Earth is plasma condition

because it has both 
gravity and magnetical.

So, in this condition you can 
interact the fields of the CO2

with the fields of 
the plasma of the seed,

entities of the seed 
which, again, is protein based.

Wheat is a softer protein than 
the meat but it's still a kind of protein.

As you were in our lab animation, you've 
seen how, while we are capturing CO2,

we produce protein 
on the top layer of the water

because nitrogen, oxygen, 
carbon and hydrogen are in the air.

When you extract or create
the magnetic field of the CO2 in the water

as it's coming in,
it brings with itself

proteins as well 
to be captured on the surface.

So, you can use the protein now 
when we do the test and confirm it

for.... food production, 
for eating as a protein, a substitute.

So, now the field of CO2 changes the
characteristic of the field of the seed,

so, you go back, it depends
how far you want to go back.

Monsanto gene 
modification is over, it's finished.

Monsanto's spent billions
of dollars to control the seed

now it's in the hands of the public, 
my life is not in danger anymore.

People are doing it all over the world 
and this was the whole purpose of my work.

To give the knowledge to 
the world that no one can control no one.

And we've seen the Chinese, 
if you go on the Keshe Foundation China,

in their first program they 
showed how they've used CO2 in China

and they grew a Chinese leaf, 
lettuce leaf and the ones which are not

fed on the ground with it, they're frozen 
and the ones which had the CO2 stayed

as fresh and good 
and the root structure has changed.

Today in the Mexican teaching,

our Spanish group have shown 
that they put a ring around the plant

with the CO2 in it, 
the plastic ring with the CO2 gans in it,

what we call gasses in 
nano-material, which you capture in your unit

and they've tested it in Germany 
and in all the frosts and everything of the winter

the plant still sits 
as if nothing happened,

it's like summer conditions 
for it is still green and growing.

So, people and governments are
spending money to develop this technology

and they are trying 
to understand it, it's a new science.

We have to 
understand it and how to control it

but in fact our bodies 
are made of the same material.

This is what we didn't know, 
we have discovered now for the first time

how our bodies 
are made and how it works.

And if you go on the
Keshe Foundation health section

we explain organ by organ, 
pieces by pieces, the bone, the heart,

the brain, how everything works and
how we apply this in the health section

how we apply this in making 
the effect of chemotherapy to be good

and you can live with chemotherapy
with the operation we developed

and now we have volunteers in Germany
monitored by the chemotherapy center

he's been with us for 14-18 months.
His son was with me this afternoon.

They gave him one year
and a half to live after the operation

with two courses over
five months of chemotherapy.

The blood test came in because the
chemotherapy center and two doctors

monitored the blood every month

we used to do that 
every week, now we do it every month.

There is no sign of cancer and
the blood is better than a 14 year old boy.

By understanding, we are 
changing and so we are teaching.

And it doesn't stay with me anymore, 
I am teaching it freely to the public,

the world public and they are using it.
And they are teaching each other.

Go on the forums of Keshe Foundation,
go on the livestreams, on the Skype

of Keshe Foundation, you see
they are freely teaching each other

whatever they've done and 
they are openly putting it on the table.

So there is no patent, there is no control
we have done with the patent business.

It's so many of us, 7 billion of us.

You can make enough money to live
a happy life if you want to produce

for your neighbour and your nation.
But, the structure of the control is out

and secondly when people see
that they can do it themselves

and we are showing more and more,
we start creating the point of peace.

Knowledge is shared 
freely, it's never been done.

In the Keshe Foundation Institute,
in our spin-offs, in our laboratories

there is going to be a camera, 
you can any day watch anything we do.

Any discoveries you 
know the second we discover.

And our students will teach
in their own national language.

We need a lot of good scientists
from America and around the world

to join us, to teach and
to bring this technology

very rapidly into a proper way 
that everybody benefits by it.

The position is, we have 
found solutions for a lot of diseases

but up to now it was me teaching it.
Now, it will be a number of scientists.

Hundreds of thousands of them in the 
coming years that they teach &amp; they develop.

We do live sessions,
we've talked to our Chinese colleagues

that the teaching in the institute 
in Italy will be live broadcasted

in the universities in China.

We are talking to the people in Sofia,
we are talking to African nations

because they can't afford 
paying for scientists to go to teach.

So, we do teach them 
directly from the teaching rooms.

Live as anybody in Italy or America learns.

You were in a meeting the past 
few days with one of our Keshe Foundation

directors of the America.

And you know what is
the plan for America now.

We start teaching it 
directly in American university,

directly in the way 
it's set up, we have done it here.

Our knowledge seeker Armen
is setting up the structure in the US.

So, you don't need to wait for
NASA to do something for you.

You can become 
astronaut or a space man I call it,

we call it "Mozhan's"(Man Orientated 
Gravitational System) in a space yourself.

You can teach us, 
we are learning every week.

People come online and 
teach us what they discover.

We have made 
knowledge free, unconditional

and in a way we have 
created a community of peace.

And it's growing by
hundreds of thousands every month.

We don't go and preach, 
we teach freely, we give knowledge freely.

The ones who see 
the benefit on it, they do it.

The ones who want to make money 
out of it, and they see us as a danger,

they want to stay rich, they see us as 
a danger because of their financial gain

and those people, very soon they
won't be on the table, as we've seen it.

(Mike) What is your....Everybody wants 
to know how soon do we can start building

spaceships and get off 
this rock, so to speak.

(Mr Keshe) The problem is not 
having it, the problem is controlling it.

There are two nations which 
fully have developed and are developing

this technology deeply,
one is Russia and one is Iran.

We know Syrians were about 
just before their internal war,

were about to be given 
the technology by Iran.

They were doing it and 
it was too close to [inaudible]

We have opened 
our patents so everybody can do it.

There are two or three 
problems, as we have seen now.

We have shown the structure of how to 
make the plasma, how to make free energy.

Don't forget, one of our systems, if you 
go on the livestream, is about 11kg 160g.

We have managed to reduce its
weight to 10.6kg and increase it to 14kg.

And the total material we use is less
than 10g and not even 10g, maybe 2-3g.

And we don't burn any fuel, we use
the gravity of the material of the plasma

of the..what you call.. 
capture in the CO2 box,

to create magnetic 
gravitational positioning

in respect to 
Earth and we move.

So there is no burning, 
when we open our reactors

we have the same material as we put it
in after testing it for weeks and weeks.

So, now we know how to get 
the fuel, we know how to move,

the problem is now we need
instrumentation of control

and that's what 
these series start doing.

Our Keshe Foundation group in China is
developing a system of control for plasma

in detecting it, 
that we can measure it.

Then we need a control system of the
three dimensional for the whole system.

I have a nice lady from 
a Bulgarian university joining us,

she is specializing in
three dimensional space movement.

And then we get 
scientists to come together.

I know there is a lot of
...what do you call it...

information and knowledge
in NASA in BOEING.

Interestingly enough, as you know Mike, 
I'm the only head of a space organization.

I'm the only nuclear physicist
in plasma technology space

who is banned by NASA
to be in their chatrooms.

Because they saw me as a threat.

(Mike) They also invited you to 
the US at one time, I saw your invitation.

(Mr Keshe) They hassled with 
Washington to get me in to give a lecture

they even cleared me for seeing 
the secret military sites of NASA

and Washington says no.
But the problem is theirs, it's not ours

because you know it's the last 
kick of a dying cat as I call it.

NASA, jet propulsion, 
it's over, it's finished.

Because how do you need it when you can 
literally fly out the roof of your house.

You can do what NASA does 
a thousand times, better just go and look.

You can buy
a star formation lift from China

The Chinese have produced it,
and they are sending it to us as gift.

So, now the knowledge is in the hands
of every man to have the freedom to do it.

And this is what is surprising, I was
talking to one of the Russian scientists

he said Americans 
never learn until it's too late.

How can you ban one of the top 
scientists in the space plasma technology

to be in your chatroom, it shows that
you are weak, then your hand is open.

DARPA is heavily behind 
it for me not to be known

but in America we are very strong,
a lot of people know and they will follow.

The beauty of it is now the Keshe
Foundation is spread across the world

so it's not one man anymore and 
our organization, even our forum,

our website is handled 
by all sorts of nationalities.

They don't even know each other

but they continuously work
to develop it further and increase it.

(Mike) So.... what kind 
of timeline do we have?

Are we looking at 
five years, 50 years, where we...

(Mr Keshe) End of this year. 
(Mike) End of this year..(inaudible)..

(Mr. Keshe) End of this year we should 
have the equipments to be able to measure.

We have managed to land, 
if you go on the livestream you've seen it

We have managed 
to land from 35-40cm.

We don't work on levitation, 
we work on the plasma technology.

So we have managed to land our system.
We have managed to reduce its weight....

so it literally hovers off 
the ground like a feather.

Because we don't have 
the right equipment to understand

where the switch 
transition point is,

which is getting developed in 
China, and hopefully in Italy very soon.

Then we can dictate the position of where 
we want to stay and what we've to change.

We are working 
at the moment blind.

If I opened the channel of 
the operation with the Iranian government

and the American government, 
sorry the Russian government,

we will have 
the technology in no time.

It's already used and tested 
by the Iranians and by the Russians.

So....the problem is
now, people are doing it

without depending 
on governments and nations.

So, if you go to the Iranians and 
go to the Russians you already can fly.

Because they are doing it, they are
using the system in different ways.

If you leave it to the human race, without
the governments, we have to do it ourselves

the way we re doing it.
It's a beautiful collaboration.

We have Canadians, we have Americans,
we have, what do you call it, Eastern Bloc.

We have Europeans, 
we have Chinese, we have Australians.

All the scientists are working 
together. With unconditional. Open

They discover, they put it on the net.

They explain to each other what they've 
done. This was unheard of 12 months ago.

This was unheard, people talk, show 
how to make nano-materials on the edge

of science, produce energy 
from them, you can go and see,

and... put it on the net freely.

This is a change.
Trust in each other.

And that's what has been 
lacking in the human race.

We did not trust 
each other, we lost the trust

and the trust was lost to 
the promotion of color, race and whatever.

And now this is over, we see the Chinese
working with christians, muslims, jews.

They're all in it, 
they're all feeding each other.

We see it in the national 
security of different nations

on the line, learning and teaching.

So, we brought 
the change in. Now, it's got to grow.

(Mike) Well, if you recall,
a couple months ago

that the US had sent an 
Aegis class Destroyer into the Black Sea

to sort of flex 
a little military muscle

let the Russians know that hey, we've
got resources that we can project

into the Black Sea as well.

And I remember that
a Russian bomber flew by

and somehow all the electrical 
systems on that Aegis Destroyer shut down

and it was so much so, that all of the
commissioned officers on that ship

resigned their commissions 
because they felt there was no way

that they could uphold their duty, 
that they would be found for neglect

because they couldn't defend their ship.

Any comments on that? I've got
a little insider knowledge on this

so I'm just asking for your comments.

(Mr Keshe) Let me put it this way.

When the strongest man on this planet, 
the president of the United States,

goes on the international 
television........ and ask....

for one of the most advanced
technologies in flight systems

and he calls it a toy 
to diminish the importance of what it is

when the most advanced aircraft, 
American spy plane was captured

by Iranians the day after I announced
we are going to show the power

on the 4th of December, 2011.

I announced it on 
the Saturday, the 3rd of December

it's going to happen, 
something very soon.

It shows that the knowledge
when I was in Iran was set up

and the Iranians 
had completed it.

Understanding that your 
spy plane, what now you call the toy

because you can't 
say if it was so advanced

which was controlled 
by a number of satellites

you had a self destruction unit inside.

It was going super-sonic, it was 
brought down and it landed safely

then you understand 
the power of the technology.

The most advanced military 
planes are not safe anymore

because they can be brought down.

At the same time, if you go on the 
Keshe Foundation Chinese section last week

the Chinese have 
started showing the program

testing these systems for underwater.

So you can bring any 
submarine to the bottom of the ocean

because you just 
increase weight, as I told you,

we have a system which 
has gone from 10.62kg to nearly 14kg

so you put a weight underneath of the 
system it costs less than $20 or maybe $50

so, the submarine never comes up.

The Russians used two planes.

They used one as a gravitational, 
and a second one as a magnetical

so they literally brought 
the whole system down,

there is no way 
you can restart it again.

It's a replication of the capture 
of the American spy plane in 2011.

And don't forget a lot of 
people said it accidentally fell

but for its anniversary,
the same day that I announced it,

the Iranians captured 
the second one to celebrate its birthday

So, it cannot be coincidental.

The problem is, sits with
the American administration.

The American administration sees
the Keshe Foundation as a threat.

Now, the Keshe 
Foundation Spaceship Institute

is the biggest friend 
you have ever had.

The friendship comes that,
what you claim to try to achieve peace,

we are acting and 
we are achieving peace.

As you know his excellency president Obama
sent me a private letter, personal letter

a couple of years ago, explaining why he 
has to be the head of such a strong nation.

And I sent him through our people in US
a peace, a world peace treaty...to sign.

And I said in one of my talks,
I send you the message of peace

and you tell me 
how to kill, it does not work.

(Mike) No, it doesn't. It's really 
talking out of both sides of their mouth

and that's something that the US...

the US represents itself as being 
a country with one set of values

in reality it's a country with
an entirely opposite set of values

and how it pursues 
its foreign policy,

an aggressive 
foreign policy, let me say that.

(Mr Keshe) Listen, we are all brothers and
we are all one and the fingers on one hand.

There is no difference,
if you are all children of one family.

It's who wants to be
the biggest and the strongest

is the one who is 
actually the weakest.

Because if you are strong you 
do not show your muscles, you leave it.

You leave the life by being 
generous and kind, not by attacking.

The ones who attack are the weakest.

How can the most 
bankrupt nation be the richest?

You cannot even service 
your debts, you're just printing money

to cover the service the debts 
that you created years ago.

(Mike) Oh I know, you're 
preaching to the choir on this,

I've had this 
discussion many many times.

(Mr Keshe) So, how can...most...
now we've shown on the seas

you are not safe anymore,
in the air, you are wiped out.

And it's not the technology, 
I'm not endangering, as you know

six months ago the Belgian government
put in a spy as a student in our midst

and they poisoned 
me and my wife, to kill.

And we were poisoned again in the 
past week by what they left behind

in trying to clean the house out.

So, these are all the last remnants of the
people who want to be leaders and kings

so they diminish their own power.

The problem is, if we work as 
one unit, the way the Keshe Foundations

around the world have 
become together and working.

You just go on the Internet,
they discover something today

within hours it's on the Internet.

We find something in the lab, within
hours the pictures of the whole reactors,

everything is on the Internet,
people can see it and replicate.

Once we start working as one unit,
as one family then we will find peace,

and with it we will find 
a way out of this planet

to be able to go out and live a peaceful 
life and have a peaceful life here.

I gave the technology 
freely to the Japanese.

This has shocked 
the Japanese government.

They say we've to pay something
for a patent, I said it's a gift.

You decide, when you use it, what you can 
give to us that we spend it back in Japan

for the Japanese nation.

And they said we have to find 
a way to make a donation like this,

so, if they agree and the report 
is correct now they have to find a way

to make a donation to a company, 
to a foundation, Keshe Foundation

that the foundation 
spends the money for humanity.

But the problem is the head of the 
foundation is an Iranian nuclear physicist

and there is an international 
boycott on the Iranian nuclear physicist.

It's a huge mess! 
It's a huge mess.

I invited the American government 
in my meeting with your high officials

and I put my table across the table 
to the American official as you know

who it is, as one 
of the highest ranking officials.

And I said this is a hand of peace from
Iran, let's shake it and start talking.

And you know where 
we are now because of it.

Before these present talks I announced
that we come with open full transparency.

And you've seen we've done.

And I now I announce something else.
Accept peace on the Iranian terms

or you'll be forced to accept
peace on the Iranian terms

which is just, equal, and allows 
the Iranian scientists to do their job.

Because... if we do not achieve
peace through equal and just...

between the five plus one,

then those who are trying to hide behind
it,.. they'll try to access the technology

which Iran has developed, and then
there will be one sided for the other

in the five plus one.

I make this very clear.

Washington has no choice but
to allow Iran in a controlled way

which is good for Iran and the Iranian
nation to develop its nuclear industry

in plasma and in heavy materials.

This is the right 
of Iran as much as the US.

But, at the same time, 
the Iranian nation gives a guarantee

that they will never use Iranian nuclear 
materials for any weapon technology.

And this guarantee is given today.

We speak very clearly

They stop boycotting a nation 
and its people and its sick children

for what does not exist.

That's what's happening, 
the Iranian children are dying because

of medicine and high quality 
materials cannot come to Iran.

What would happen if such 
a boycott was set on America?

that they cannot import anything?

And Iran showed it by the plane 
and Russia showed it by the boat.

No entry into the borders of the
water territory of the United States

between two nations.

Within hours you will start 
eating each other US and Europe.

So, let's talk peace but
with equal transparency.

Not coming in to get access to
the latest technologies of Iran

that you can use it 
against each other.

A lot of you are war 
veterans, you listen to this program.

You have to understand 
the truth behind the five plus one.

Iran has centrifuge which every six 
American and European centrifuge

is equal to 
one Iranian centrifuge.

So, Iran with 20,000 
centrifuges developed in 10 years

has equal to 120,000 
American centrifuges, which is huge.

And, at the same time 
they use a fraction of the energy.

That's why they want to 
come in and see how we do it

that they can use it and make a nuclear
bomb, and different bombs for the others

under cover 
of "Iran is making bombs".

In Iran we do not need
nuclear weapon technology.

We have shown how we brought 
one of the most advanced crafts down.

The Russians 
shown the Navy situation.

So, there are more advanced 
technologies in our hands to force.

We are men of wisdom, 
don't forget when you go to Christmas

you speak about 
the three wise men from Persia.

We are very wise, and very very 
astute as well, we know what we are doing.

Let's talk peace, in a correct way,

sharing knowledge and 
technology the way we have done.

But all the boycotts
have to come to an end very rapidly.

There is a block 
enforce it but at the same time,

what you don't like to do 
to the others don't let it be done to you.

It means boycotts 
can be effective

I told you, Mr Harris, when 
you were with us before Christmas.

Only needs change the advanced 
shape and the Black Sea to a very normal

super tanker headed from 
the middle east from Saudi Arabia to America.

You stop ten tankers, the panic sets and 
then the problem starts for the Americans.

You'll be so busy trying to salvage your 
problem internally, to feed your nation

that the rest of the world will come to 
peace then you will have your own problem.

We love you and we 
respect you and it has to be mutual.

We shared 
technology, you do the same.

(Mike) Let me insert something 
here, because what we're seeing

out of our government in the USA 
right now is not the will of the people

our government has been 
hijacked by what I call a criminal cabal

and the American voter,
the American electorate

has been shut out of 
the process for some time now.

(Mr Keshe) That is 
your problem, internally.

(Mike) Nope, 
I understand, it is our problem

and it's up to us
to deal with that problem.

But perhaps this external 
pressure that is going to be put on

the people who are in power, will
aid our efforts to clean our own house

and purge our government and 
our culture, our society, our nation

of those who would want
to cause harm to others.

Because the American people don't want
this, we don't want war, we never have.

(Mr Keshe) Listen,
let me explain to you, Mike.

I have my first cousins
who are half American.

I have my second 
cousins who are more or less

second or third 
generation Americans.

I don't want to see 
any harm to come to them.

I don't want to see 
harm to come to the...

latino Americans or black 
Americans or anybody else, or the jews.

The problem is we have to stop the 
process of making money out of hate.

Out of hating each other, out of 
resentment, out of making money

under different names 
of color, race and religion.

We've got to work as one

and by sharing technology and science, 
like we are doing, we are achieving it.

Because, we, just go on
the Keshe Foundation workshops.

You see the Chinese,
they show the latest thing.

The Mexicans, the Italians, 
the doctors from Bulgaria.

We have made 
Earth without borders,

but the question is, now 
that the Keshe Foundation

has set up the structure
of science without borders,

do we need leaders 
to have with borders?

This is the end of kingship and 
presidentialship and prime ministership

because they 
brought it to themselves.

When a king pays for a scientist
to be killed, do we need that king?

This is the situation 
with Keshe Foundation.

We invite the world leaders 
to come to end the term of their own term

and come to one council
as the world leader council.

So that we don't have borders,
then we don't need to hate each other.

We don't talk anymore,
I'm doing it so perfectly

that even frightens those
who are trying to cover it

because now people are making decisions,
sharing in knowledge, teaching each other

and using the technology.

So, when you do that, when you are correct
do you need somebody else to tell you

what to do?
No.

You have extra time,
you serve the others,

you have the extra facilities 
you provide for the others.

Why should a child of 8 years old 
be poisoned by instructions of a king

to be killed? 
This is what happened.

If you heard what explained 
now teaching, with the children,

the spy they put in the foundation, he
poisoned the toys which was from my child

I was teaching 
that my child got poisoned.

Do we need the kings that just work 
to keep their chairs and kill the others?

No. We bring peace.

I blessed the soul 
of this king and his entourage.

Maybe the soul will find peace so
that the body does not walk with the soul.

Time of kingship is over.

Now, people want to live in 
peace and we've given them the tools.

Let's sit and talk as one 
nation, not as a number of nations.

Then we don't have kings.

Why do we need to kill 
each other in the name different flags

different ways of worshipping 
the same thing, as we call the Creator.

Wanting to have a peaceful planet.

There are not too many planets,
there's one we live on Earth as one.

Why do we need to produce 
weapons to kill each other

when we can use 
the same factories

to produce food and 
make more money out of it?

There is no need for
this division to benefit.

This is the mentality which originally 
came even from Persia, in the old times.

And then now it's promoted 
by what they call superpowers.

How come the most bankrupt nations
cover themselves with world leaders?

They don't have the money to feed their 
nations and how can they be world leaders?

Maybe...maybe...
Look at it this way,

in Texas Dallas you 
are running out of water.

Because you use the water reserves which
were underground for millions of years.

You thought you have water
it was a reserve to a certain amount,

now you are losing your farms.

Let me give you a tip: all the farmers
in Texas come to Keshe Foundation,

I show you, you can grow food the same 
as before at less cost without any water.

We've done it, 
the technology is available.

Today I sent an email to our
Keshe Foundation in China

to start 
developing the technology.

The seed you've seen,
the material you see as CO2

you can create the same thing now 
we know how to make magnets for anything.

You create a condition you absorb moisture 
from the air and your plant gets watered.

I developed this for 
African nations, like Ethiopia.

Why do you wait for the moisture to go up
to become a cloud to rain down for you

to capture it to water
your plant if it rains there?

Now, you can have rain in
the driest part of the Arizona desert

or the driest parts of deserts in 
the U S that still have 15% moisture.

So if you can capture 
the moisture before it goes up

and if it rains it goes up from your land 
but ends up in China or ends up in Europe.

Whatever moisture is in your environment
you can capture it, you can bring it down

and don't use any fertilizer 
because you will be bringing in the rain

you're bringing 
the nitrogen, the right way

so you have your 
fertilizer and you're water free.

I don't dream, 
we have the system.

Go to Keshe Foundation 
website, order the CO2 kit

and try it like everybody else 
like the Mexicans here today.

The change is not talk,
they told me it's a lot of talk.

Now, we start putting units
as commercial units in the market.

Now we show the power of it you
don't need us to do it, all you need to do

Mike told you, go to your market, 
go to your shop, buy a plate of copper,

put it in a caustic for 
one day, take it out and let it dry

it goes black, 
this is your nano-material

get yourself a zinc plate,
connect the two plates together

put some salt water in it, to cover 
the plates and you start capturing CO2.

And this is exactly like the leaf of a tree.
Go to the Keshe Foundation Youtube

and it's called 
CO2 kit, see how we do it.

You don't need to pay us,
it costs you less than $1

you have your fertilizer, 
you have your energy source,

you have your food facilities.

So, we don't talk, we teach you
how to do it. I hope you enjoy it.

(Mike) Well, very good Mr Keshe, 
this has been quite informative here.

Talk to us about health advances 
because I know you've been doing

a lot of work on that, I got 
some samples of this pain pad

and I understand that's the first of many
products that are going to be coming out.

What direction 
are you going to take that in?

(Mr Keshe) We have 
been given access,

or we've been told we've been given
access to hospital facilities in Italy.

So we will have...
the beauty of this technology

is you don't need a hospital 
you can do everything at home.

You have a cancer, 
you can process your cancer at home.

You have a mentally handicapped child
which was born with a lack of oxygen

you can do it at home and bring your
child to normality within 2-3 years

by just simple system 
which we developed.

It's not a fairy tale, we've done 
enough, we have hundreds of records of it.

Everything has been kept.

So, what you do, 
you have Alzheimer's,

you can reverse Alzheimer's 
very easily by just drinking water.

I could not do-- I've been making 
these systems by hand one by one.

Now, I'm teaching it to be made 
in masses but people have to understand

because if they get it wrong
they cause themselves different problems.

So, we teach it in the Institute.

You don't need hospitals.

Even old people, if they process 
the right way, they can still live a life

till the time when the body
can not carry the physicality.

And, but live a 
good life, we've done this.

People who have been with 
their back broken, bent like 70 degrees

were looking on the ground, they walk 
after three months upright, as nothing.

Because, we have found 
the process. So, the health section

has to go internationally in hand in hand 
and now a lot of systems has leaked out,

a lot of people have started 
making cancer units and the rest.

Because you have to understand, one of 
the things which the Belgian government

is trying to chase me for, 
is practicing medicine without licence

and asking people for money 
for selling magnets, as a fraud.

Because, this technology is 
so simple but it took a lot of development.

And what they say, I don't need 
a licence, I make a system like Earth.

Who says it's a health system? 
It's a copy of the operation of the planet.

So, if I'm practicing 
medicine, which I don't do,

I built system which 
does the processing.

They have to sue the mint, 
the beetroot, the ginger, the garlic.

Which court are 
they going to take them to?

This is the stupidity of it.

If, if, I, what I do, 
developping a system like garlic

that when you take it 
you have no cholesterol

or you lose, what you call, diabetic, so 
you have to sue every plant on this earth,

every plant! Go to dates and go to banana 
from sugar cane to God knows, potatoe.

This is the ridiculous 
thing which they have come

to stop to silence 
the technology that people cannot have

that they can 
abuse people more.

And then because people 
donate to us, they say it's a fraud.

Now, we know the German
and the Dutch have joined them

because a third Reich 
in Germany has pushed through.

But the thing is now we open 
the books, let them come and sue the trees,

the plants, the fish 
and everything else.

Because if I can build 
a system which I've shown

two plates create the same condition as
a leaf to absorb CO2 from the environment

and you can tangibly touch it ,

so I know the secret of 
the créationand I'm teaching the man.

So, if I know how to make a garlic, so
every garlic has to go to prison now

because they are all, what do you call it
practicing medicine without a licence

and any ginger root is the same.

This is the stupidity 
of governments who are trying

to protect their meager 
existence for a few more days.

I don't build 
systems to change things,

I create the same conditions which
your body knew before it gets cancer.

So, it goes back to do exactly 
what it was doing before the cancer

so, the cancer changes.... back.

The cancer doesn't change,
the body changes to normality

so your cancer 
doesn't show as a cancer.

But it's still there,
but it doesn't show as a cancer.

So, now from tomorrow beetroots
have to go to the court in Belgium and gingers

we'lll send truckloads 
of ginger to the courts in Kortrijk

for the police to sue 
them for practicing medicine.

This is the stupidity 
of it... Ginger criminals!

(Mike) You just 
made a comment here

that is, let these 
governments enjoy their last few days.

What do you think the timing is 
on changing this over, to getting this

to a point where governments 
have outlived their usefulness

have outlived their function? You know, 
are we tired..(inaudible)..for a better world.

(Mr Keshe) Governments is us.... 
....people of this planet.

We've decided to give people, some people 
who are incompetent to have power over us.

And all we're doing, we are not getting
it back, we are not fighting it back.

We are carrying our own peaceful 
way so they will come and join us.

Fighting takes energy,
why do you need to fight?

I don't want to spend my time 
fighting the different governments.

I carry on releasing 
in technology, I carry on teaching,

I carry on opening 
now the university

So, in a time they will come to see 
this guy is not the enemy, he is a friend

we need to go at least partially his 
way and then in the future the full way.

Why should a number of Japanese die? 
They are our brothers, they are our family.

Why should they die because I cannot 
go to Japan to finish the technology

to stop the mayhem with Fukushima, which
the rest of us are getting affected with.

Plus, helping the Japanese 
to develop a normal life.

All these tanks they are 
building on the mountain, one a day

400,000 liters,
all becomes assets of the nation.

The Americans serve 
the Japanese to become richer than them

with what they have in these 
tanks and I explained to them.

Let me explain to you, every tank
on the mountains of Fukushima...

power plant ......will
create between 10-50kg of pure gold.

Now, multiply 1,500 by 50kg.

Now, you see how much 
you add to the pure assets of a nation.

I've developed 
a technology, but at the same time

we've destroyed 
the radiation there's no radiation.

So you can drink 
these pure waters.

The technology is very simple, 
Japanese have flown three times here

they have taken the material, 
their government doesn't want

to spend this kind 
of money for nothing

if there was nothing 
in it and they come and go.

I can show you the bottles, I showed
them to you when you were here I think

The bottles from the Fukushima--

(Mike) Yes, yes you did actually.

(Mr Keshe) So, I informed 
the Italian government immediately

there is such move that I've 
received nuclear water from Fukushima.

I didn't know how 
it comes, they brought it here

&amp; within hours they flew back, they came, 
they took more and the material is going.

We are very open, I'm waiting for
the Japanese to be open to announce

what they've done with 
the research from Keshe Foundation.

Because, they're afraid of the Americans
if they do something wrong to them.

This is the problem,
fear has caused problems for man.

As I said, if I was in America I would
have been ten times more than Einstein

but here still I serve as 
a human being to the human race

and I'm much happier 
than having a name.

But at least we are making the change.
We are making a change to world peace

and we are making 
change to end of the kingship.

Because, when people 
are correct, they don't need....

You've got to understand the structure 
of the kingship and presidentialship.

When you are a king, you have to force
people to pay you for you to be the boss.

And it only comes by injustice.

So, when you want to rob 
a certain number of people to be head of

you have to be unjust, because if you
are correct people don't need a head

they can follow 
each other in the correct way.

We need governments 
to have a structure.

But we need world governments, we
need one unified (loom?) for everybody.

How come?

How come, for example, Pakistan,
India can have a nuclear technology

Iran can't have.

How come? Israel can have access
to nuclear weapons, Iran can't have.

As I said to our Israeli 
friends, you know I'm half jewish.

I said, we are friends. Us 
and jews and Americans, we are friends.

We are very good friends because 10-20% of
the population of Israel are Iranian jews.

They are the people who 
established the original Israeli state.

They went from Iran 
half of my family went there.

But I'm still loyal to my nation,
to my government, I'm Iranian,

I'll never change my passport.

My nation, my ethos 
of peace stays with my nation.

We are friends, you send us a nuclear 
bomb, you send us aircraft to bomb

the nuclear sites of Iran, we showed you
how we captured the most advanced

technology aircraft you had, 
with all the satellites self destruction.

We do not need to make nuclear bombs
we do not need to go in that territory.

We need to know 
the knowledge and know-how

but not to use it because it's our 
right, because we need it in the space.

But, when a friend 
gives you a gift.... what do you do?

You don't need it, you give it back.
As I've always said to the Israelis,

to the higher 
ranked officers of Mossad.

(Mike) We're nearly out of time, 
we've got about a minute and half left

so I want you 
to wrap up your comments, okay?

(Mr Keshe) Yeah. So now, 
we don't need your gift.

Where would you like your 
gift back? In Tel Aviv or Washington?

Don't even think to attack Iran.
We are friends, we work as one

and my foundation is 
set up to start the world peace

and we talk peace 
through the institute.

Thank you very 
much for your time.

(Mike) Yes Mr Keshe, 
thank you very much for joining us.

We've got a minute left, any other 
comments from the other parties

who are 
on the call, there are several,

we've got, like I said about a minute 
or so left, closing comments from anyone?

Okay, well I guess not, 
so I'll go ahead and make a plug.

(Mr Keshe) Let me tell you 
one thing. We invite the human race

or anybody who likes to be at
the beginning of this change.

We start on the 23rd of July at 10h30.

If you want to join us in the movement of
peace we are teaching freely and openly.

Come and pay us a visit and celebrate 
the new generation of life with us.

23rd of April in Bari, Italy.

(Mike) Well, very good.
So that's an invitation to the public,

the 23rd of April in Bari, Italy, at
the university, the LUM university and ...

(Mr Keshe) LUM University, 
Keshe Foundation Spaceship Institute.

(Mike) Keshe Foundation 
Spaceship Institute.

All right Mr Keshe, we're about done, 
I've got a couple of announcements to make

tomorrow my guest is Gordon Duff.
Thursday I'll have Kerry Cassidy

and Friday I'll have Miles Johnston.

(Mr Keshe) Can I say something?
(Mike) Oh, certainly, you're the guest.

(Mr Keshe) I'm talking to 
Kerry Cassidy tomorrow night in her show.

(Mike) Okay, well she's a good girl,
a good friend and I hope you have

a good interview with her 
she's a good person, I like her.

(Mr Keshe) Thank you very much. 
(Mike) All the best.

(Mr Keshe) Thank you for your time 
(Mike) Well, thank you for your time

and hopefully we'll see 
you in Bari, Italy on the 23rd.

(Mr Keshe) Thank you very much 
indeed,we'll enjoy your company.

(Mike) Okay, well folks 
I think we're about done here

just waiting for the
background music to start up

and we're going to be 
signing off here momentarily.

So, that's what I've got. Like I said,
tomorrow the guest is Gordon Duff

Thursday Kerry Cassidy 
and Friday Miles Johnston.

And right on cue, there's our 
music. Everyone thank you much.

Talk to you the same 
time same place tomorrow.

Veteran's Today Radio.com
Simulcast on Revolution Radio.

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Thank you all very much, bye bye

(Rick) Thanks a lot, Mike. Great job. 
(Kevin?) Thank you, bye bye.

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(Rick) And, so ends the 13th 
Kids Knowledge Seekers Workshop.

Thank you everybody for attending!