[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:13.86,0:00:19.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Julie Mehretu: Paesaggi Politicizzati] Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.04,0:00:22.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Al mondo non c'è niente come il "paesaggio" Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.74,0:00:29.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Il paesaggio reale è reso politico Dialogue: 0,0:00:29.52,0:00:31.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dagli eventi che vi hanno luogo. Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.66,0:00:35.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,E non penso sia possibile per me, in generale, Dialogue: 0,0:00:35.90,0:00:38.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,arrivare a penasre al paesaggio americano Dialogue: 0,0:00:38.62,0:00:41.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,senza pensare alla storia coloniale, Dialogue: 0,0:00:41.37,0:00:44.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,e quindi alla violenza coloniale. Dialogue: 0,0:00:50.00,0:00:51.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Il movimento abolizionista Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.86,0:00:52.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,La Guerra Civile Dialogue: 0,0:00:53.44,0:00:55.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Il passi verso l'emancipazione Dialogue: 0,0:00:56.90,0:01:00.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sono tutte dinamiche sociali della storia, Dialogue: 0,0:01:00.32,0:01:04.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,di cui non parliamo riferendoci ai dipinti paesaggistici americani. Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.44,0:01:08.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Cosa significa dipingere un paesaggio Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.24,0:01:11.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,e provare ad essere un artista in questo momento storico? Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.84,0:01:19.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I colori di questi dipinti arrivano da Dialogue: 0,0:01:20.91,0:01:21.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,opache fotografie incastrate sotto i dipinti. Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.58,0:01:24.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Le sirene e le fiamme delle rivolte raziali Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.58,0:01:28.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,erano un modo per unire i dipinti con il DNA, Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.02,0:01:31.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,così da rispondere da uno spazio più profondo Dialogue: 0,0:01:31.42,0:01:34.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Salgo a dare un'occhiata Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.64,0:01:39.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sì, sono emozionata! Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.66,0:01:46.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[risate] Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.16,0:01:47.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mi ha contattata Marian Goodman Dialogue: 0,0:01:57.34,0:01:59.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,per dirmi che SFMOMA voleva parlare di una commissione Dialogue: 0,0:01:59.47,0:02:02.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,prima che venisse aperto il museo. Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.81,0:02:04.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ho visitato varie volte il museo a San Francisco Dialogue: 0,0:02:06.80,0:02:11.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Osservavo questo spazio cavernoso ed aperto.. Dialogue: 0,0:02:11.64,0:02:15.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,questi due muri. Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.48,0:02:16.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,E ho pensato ai parchi naturali Dialogue: 0,0:02:16.86,0:02:19.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,e a come viene rappresentato il paesaggio americano. Dialogue: 0,0:02:19.96,0:02:22.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,E soprattutto quando sono tornata Dialogue: 0,0:02:22.57,0:02:24.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ho continuato a pensare ai pittori della Hudson River Valley School Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.92,0:02:27.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,come Edwin Church Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.81,0:02:29.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thomas Cole, bierstadt Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.55,0:02:31.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,perchè riescono a racchiudere l'idea di andare verso ovest. Dialogue: 0,0:02:31.84,0:02:36.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ho cominciato a deporre strati di immagini dai colori offuscati in questi dipinti di paesaggi storici. Dialogue: 0,0:02:37.28,0:02:43.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Appena precedenti all'emancipazione, Dialogue: 0,0:02:47.40,0:02:49.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I Nativi Americani delle Sierras e le frontiere occidentali Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.72,0:02:53.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,erano completamente annichilite da questo progetto espansionista. Dialogue: 0,0:02:53.44,0:02:56.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,La cosa interessante era questo aspetto Dialogue: 0,0:02:58.38,0:03:00.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,di annichilimento e subito dopo preservazione Dialogue: 0,0:03:00.91,0:03:03.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,che possono coesistere in uno stesso paesaggio. Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.99,0:03:06.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,San Francisco, come luogo, Dialogue: 0,0:03:09.78,0:03:12.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,è diventato importante per questo destino di andare verso ovest. Dialogue: 0,0:03:12.33,0:03:17.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Jason Moran, compositore e pianista] Dialogue: 0,0:03:25.02,0:03:28.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- [MEHRETU] Come stai? Dialogue: 0,0:03:28.70,0:03:29.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jason Moran mi ha scritto dopo aver visto alcuni dipinti Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.44,0:03:32.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,e ne ha parlato come un traguardo. Dialogue: 0,0:03:32.82,0:03:35.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ed io ne ero molto interessata. Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.52,0:03:38.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Così abbiamo cominciato a collaborare Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.76,0:03:45.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in totale scioltezza e apertura. Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.32,0:03:48.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,è qualcosa di molto bello da dipingere in una chiesa. Dialogue: 0,0:03:52.24,0:03:55.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,è come se tutto avesse un riverbero qui, Dialogue: 0,0:03:56.72,0:03:59.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,una saggia energia e una saggia consapevolezza Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.65,0:04:02.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,e tutto ciò che è successo quest'anno nella mia vita privata Dialogue: 0,0:04:02.68,0:04:06.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,con mio figlio, con la politica. Dialogue: 0,0:04:06.13,0:04:09.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tutto questo è immerso nei dipinti. Dialogue: 0,0:04:10.08,0:04:13.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Piano elettrico] Dialogue: 0,0:04:13.62,0:04:16.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tutti i brutali omicidi di persone di colore, Dialogue: 0,0:04:28.20,0:04:31.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,e il Corpo nero. Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.04,0:04:32.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,La dimanica Trump-Hillary, Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.82,0:04:36.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,è stato orribile assistere. Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.02,0:04:39.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,C'era qualcosa di viscerale in quel linguaggio Dialogue: 0,0:04:41.14,0:04:44.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Quando una persona parla così male Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.14,0:04:49.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,è davvero da disgraziati. Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.46,0:04:52.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lo sconforto di vivere e lavorare negli USA Dialogue: 0,0:04:55.40,0:04:59.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dal luogo che ha creato questi dipinti. Dialogue: 0,0:04:59.64,0:05:03.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Piano elettrico] Dialogue: 0,0:05:03.82,0:05:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.48,0:05:28.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:05:28.96,0:05:30.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:05:32.56,0:05:34.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:05:36.26,0:05:39.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:05:45.12,0:05:47.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:05:47.20,0:05:49.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:05:49.06,0:05:51.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:05:53.50,0:05:56.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:05:56.46,0:05:59.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:05:59.22,0:06:02.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.54,0:06:10.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:06:10.49,0:06:11.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:06:11.49,0:06:16.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:06:17.60,0:06:18.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:06:18.50,0:06:22.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:06:22.43,0:06:24.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:06:24.23,0:06:25.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:06:25.23,0:06:26.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:06:26.82,0:06:30.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:06:30.59,0:06:34.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:06:34.59,0:06:37.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:06:39.10,0:06:40.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:06:40.72,0:06:42.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:06:46.00,0:06:47.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:06:47.57,0:06:49.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:06:49.19,0:06:51.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:06:56.40,0:06:59.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:06:59.58,0:07:01.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:07:02.36,0:07:05.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:07:06.28,0:07:09.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:07:11.62,0:07:14.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:07:19.10,0:07:20.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:07:20.52,0:07:23.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:07:37.72,0:07:41.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:07:41.58,0:07:45.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:07:50.68,0:07:54.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:07:56.20,0:08:00.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:08:00.06,0:08:02.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:08:03.92,0:08:06.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:08:06.12,0:08:09.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:08:12.98,0:08:16.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:08:23.36,0:08:25.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:08:27.12,0:08:32.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:08:32.28,0:08:35.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:08:36.92,0:08:40.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:08:53.86,0:08:56.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:08:56.32,0:08:59.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:09:04.50,0:09:08.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:09:08.46,0:09:12.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:09:21.02,0:09:24.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:09:28.46,0:09:31.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:09:31.18,0:09:32.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,