1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:04,215 David Biello: So Victor, what have you been up to? 2 00:00:05,164 --> 00:00:07,790 Victor Vescovo: That's the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean, 3 00:00:07,790 --> 00:00:10,692 and I guess I read too much Jules Verne as a young boy, 4 00:00:10,692 --> 00:00:14,700 and so for the last four years I've led a team to design and build 5 00:00:14,700 --> 00:00:16,088 what is now the most advanced 6 00:00:16,088 --> 00:00:18,207 and deepest diving submersible on the planet, 7 00:00:18,207 --> 00:00:20,854 and I have the ability to personally pilot it too. 8 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,243 So this was us in December of last year 9 00:00:23,243 --> 00:00:24,355 for the first time -- 10 00:00:24,355 --> 00:00:25,943 the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean. 11 00:00:25,943 --> 00:00:27,936 DB: And nobody's seen that before right? 12 00:00:27,936 --> 00:00:28,938 That's just you. 13 00:00:28,938 --> 00:00:29,836 VV: No -- 14 00:00:29,836 --> 00:00:31,243 well, now everybody else. 15 00:00:31,243 --> 00:00:33,105 DB: Who does that? 16 00:00:33,450 --> 00:00:34,795 Like -- 17 00:00:34,795 --> 00:00:38,660 VV: Well, I think everyone has seen the developments in the last 10,15 years. 18 00:00:38,660 --> 00:00:41,982 You have a bunch of people that have the means to explore outer space, 19 00:00:41,982 --> 00:00:44,303 like SpaceX or Blue Origin -- 20 00:00:44,303 --> 00:00:45,296 those guys -- 21 00:00:45,296 --> 00:00:47,024 and we're going the other direction. 22 00:00:47,024 --> 00:00:48,156 So it's a wonderful era 23 00:00:48,156 --> 00:00:50,383 of private individuals spending their resources 24 00:00:50,383 --> 00:00:53,019 to develop technologies that can take us to places 25 00:00:53,019 --> 00:00:54,799 that have never been explored before, 26 00:00:54,799 --> 00:00:57,095 and the oceans of the world is -- 27 00:00:57,095 --> 00:01:00,857 it's almost a cliché to say it's 70 percent of our entire planet, 28 00:01:00,857 --> 00:01:02,946 and of that, 95 percent is unexplored. 29 00:01:03,164 --> 00:01:05,586 So what we're trying to do with our expedition 30 00:01:05,586 --> 00:01:07,736 is to build and prove out a submersible 31 00:01:07,736 --> 00:01:10,360 that can go to any point on the bottom of the planet 32 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:14,413 to explore the 60 percent of this planet that is still unexplored. 33 00:01:15,452 --> 00:01:17,809 DB: You need a pretty cool tool to do that, right? 34 00:01:17,809 --> 00:01:18,810 VV: Right. 35 00:01:18,810 --> 00:01:21,502 Now the tool is the submarine the Limiting Factor. 36 00:01:21,502 --> 00:01:23,152 It's a state-of-the-art vessel 37 00:01:23,152 --> 00:01:25,490 supported by the support ship, the Pressure Drop. 38 00:01:25,753 --> 00:01:27,564 It has a two-person titanium sphere, 39 00:01:27,564 --> 00:01:28,613 90 milimeters-thick, 40 00:01:28,613 --> 00:01:30,138 that keeps it at one atmosphere, 41 00:01:30,138 --> 00:01:32,732 and it has the ability to dive repeatedly 42 00:01:32,732 --> 00:01:35,130 down to the very deepest point of the ocean. 43 00:01:35,331 --> 00:01:39,455 DB: So like the SpaceX of ocean exploration? 44 00:01:39,455 --> 00:01:42,049 VV: Yeah, it's kind of the SpaceX of ocean exploration, 45 00:01:42,049 --> 00:01:43,400 but I pilot my own vehicles. 46 00:01:44,073 --> 00:01:45,653 (Laughter) 47 00:01:45,653 --> 00:01:48,129 DB: Are you going to take Elon or...? 48 00:01:48,768 --> 00:01:50,778 VV: Yeah, I could take someone down there. 49 00:01:50,778 --> 00:01:52,619 So, Elon, I don't if you're listening, 50 00:01:52,619 --> 00:01:55,486 I'll give you a ride in mine if you give me a ride in yours. 51 00:01:55,486 --> 00:01:57,316 (Laughter) 52 00:01:58,176 --> 00:02:00,939 DB: So tell us what it's like down there. 53 00:02:00,939 --> 00:02:04,281 I mean, we're talking about a place where the pressure is so intense 54 00:02:04,281 --> 00:02:06,901 that it's like putting an Eiffel Tower on your toe. 55 00:02:06,901 --> 00:02:08,100 VV: It's more than that. 56 00:02:08,100 --> 00:02:09,335 It's about 16,000 psi. 57 00:02:09,673 --> 00:02:12,098 So the issue is we have this titanium sphere 58 00:02:12,098 --> 00:02:14,512 that allows us to go down to these extreme depths 59 00:02:14,512 --> 00:02:15,820 and come up repeatedly. 60 00:02:16,197 --> 00:02:17,638 That's never been done before. 61 00:02:17,638 --> 00:02:19,853 The Challenger Deep has been dived twice, 62 00:02:19,853 --> 00:02:23,157 once in 1960 and once in 2012 by James Cameron, 63 00:02:23,157 --> 00:02:24,837 and they went down and came back up 64 00:02:24,837 --> 00:02:26,465 and those were experimental craft. 65 00:02:26,465 --> 00:02:28,998 This is the first commercially certified submersible 66 00:02:28,998 --> 00:02:32,265 that can go up and down thousands of times with two people, 67 00:02:32,265 --> 00:02:33,324 including a scientist. 68 00:02:33,324 --> 00:02:34,324 We're very proud 69 00:02:34,324 --> 00:02:37,510 that we just took down the deepest-diving British citizen in history 70 00:02:37,510 --> 00:02:38,543 just three weeks ago, 71 00:02:38,543 --> 00:02:40,499 Dr. Alan Jamieson of Newcastle University 72 00:02:40,499 --> 00:02:42,776 who was down with us on the Java Trench. 73 00:02:43,358 --> 00:02:47,415 DB: So not too much freaks you out is what I'm guessing. 74 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,170 VV: Well, it's a lot different to go diving. 75 00:02:50,372 --> 00:02:53,367 If you're claustrophobic you do not want to be in the submarine. 76 00:02:53,367 --> 00:02:54,685 We go down quite a distance 77 00:02:54,685 --> 00:02:58,091 and the missions typically last eight to nine hours in a confined space. 78 00:02:58,091 --> 00:03:00,556 It's very different from the career I had previously 79 00:03:00,556 --> 00:03:03,509 which was mountain climbing where you're in large, open spaces, 80 00:03:03,509 --> 00:03:04,515 the wind is whipping, 81 00:03:04,515 --> 00:03:05,515 it's very, very cold. 82 00:03:05,515 --> 00:03:06,515 This is the opposite. 83 00:03:06,515 --> 00:03:07,732 It's much more technical. 84 00:03:07,732 --> 00:03:10,365 It's much more about precision and using the instruments 85 00:03:10,365 --> 00:03:12,565 and troubleshooting anything that can go wrong. 86 00:03:12,565 --> 00:03:15,518 But actually if something really goes wrong in the submersible, 87 00:03:15,518 --> 00:03:16,850 you're not going to know it. 88 00:03:16,850 --> 00:03:17,849 (Laughter) 89 00:03:17,849 --> 00:03:20,327 DB: So you're afraid of leaks is what you're saying. 90 00:03:20,327 --> 00:03:21,434 VV: Leaks are not good, 91 00:03:21,434 --> 00:03:23,150 but if it's a leak that's happening, 92 00:03:23,150 --> 00:03:24,625 well at least it's not that bad 93 00:03:24,625 --> 00:03:27,625 because if it was really bad you wouldn't know it, again but -- 94 00:03:27,625 --> 00:03:29,077 you know, fire in the capsule, 95 00:03:29,077 --> 00:03:30,522 that wouldn't be good either, 96 00:03:30,522 --> 00:03:32,961 but no, it's actually a very, very safe submersible. 97 00:03:32,961 --> 00:03:35,425 I like to say I don't trust a lot of things in life, 98 00:03:35,425 --> 00:03:36,577 but I do trust titanium, 99 00:03:36,577 --> 00:03:37,579 I trust math 100 00:03:37,579 --> 00:03:39,299 and I trust Finite Element Analysis, 101 00:03:39,299 --> 00:03:40,596 which is how you figure out 102 00:03:40,596 --> 00:03:42,620 whether or not things like this can survive 103 00:03:42,620 --> 00:03:44,851 these extraordinary pressures and conditions. 104 00:03:44,851 --> 00:03:47,359 DB: And that sphere is so perfectly machined, right? 105 00:03:47,359 --> 00:03:48,962 This is a truly unique craft. 106 00:03:49,137 --> 00:03:50,587 VV: That was the real trick -- 107 00:03:50,587 --> 00:03:52,464 is actually building a titanium sphere 108 00:03:52,464 --> 00:03:55,504 that was accurate to within .1 percent of machine. 109 00:03:55,504 --> 00:03:56,989 Titanium is a hard mill to work 110 00:03:56,989 --> 00:03:58,996 and a lot of people haven't figured it out, 111 00:03:58,996 --> 00:04:00,285 but we were very fortunate. 112 00:04:00,285 --> 00:04:02,335 I've been working with an extraordinary team 113 00:04:02,335 --> 00:04:04,527 that was able to make an almost perfect sphere, 114 00:04:04,527 --> 00:04:06,913 which when you're subjecting something to pressure, 115 00:04:06,913 --> 00:04:08,913 that's the strongest geometry you can have. 116 00:04:08,913 --> 00:04:11,243 When I'm in the submersible and that hatch closes, 117 00:04:11,243 --> 00:04:12,677 I actually feel very confident 118 00:04:12,677 --> 00:04:14,693 that I'm going to go down and come back up. 119 00:04:14,693 --> 00:04:16,800 DB: And that's the thing you double-check -- 120 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:17,991 that the hatch is closed? 121 00:04:17,991 --> 00:04:20,393 VV: There are only two rules in diving a submarine. 122 00:04:20,393 --> 00:04:22,259 Number one is close the hatch securely. 123 00:04:22,259 --> 00:04:24,254 Number two is go back to rule number one. 124 00:04:24,254 --> 00:04:25,758 DB: Alright so, Atlantic Ocean: 125 00:04:25,758 --> 00:04:26,758 check. 126 00:04:26,758 --> 00:04:28,017 Southern Ocean: 127 00:04:28,017 --> 00:04:29,019 check -- 128 00:04:29,019 --> 00:04:31,482 VV: No one has ever dived the Southern Ocean before. 129 00:04:31,482 --> 00:04:32,478 I know why. 130 00:04:32,478 --> 00:04:33,822 It's really, really hostile. 131 00:04:33,822 --> 00:04:35,085 The weather is awful. 132 00:04:35,085 --> 00:04:37,085 The word collision comes to mind. 133 00:04:37,302 --> 00:04:38,843 But we did that one, yes. 134 00:04:39,139 --> 00:04:40,211 Glad that's over -- 135 00:04:40,211 --> 00:04:41,209 DB: Yeah -- 136 00:04:41,209 --> 00:04:42,207 VV: Thank you 137 00:04:42,207 --> 00:04:43,213 (Applause) 138 00:04:43,213 --> 00:04:45,215 DB: It's like you're racing through it. 139 00:04:45,215 --> 00:04:46,472 And now the Indian Ocean, 140 00:04:46,472 --> 00:04:47,679 as Kelly mentioned. 141 00:04:47,679 --> 00:04:49,363 VV: Yeah, that was three weeks ago. 142 00:04:49,363 --> 00:04:51,938 We were fortunate enough to actually solve the mystery. 143 00:04:51,938 --> 00:04:53,913 If someone had asked me three weeks ago, 144 00:04:53,913 --> 00:04:56,386 "What is the deepest point in the Indian Ocean?" 145 00:04:56,386 --> 00:04:57,618 no one really knew. 146 00:04:57,618 --> 00:04:58,957 There were two candidates, 147 00:04:58,957 --> 00:05:01,633 one off of Western Australia and one in the Java Trench. 148 00:05:01,633 --> 00:05:04,017 We have this wonderful ship with a brilliant sonar. 149 00:05:04,017 --> 00:05:05,118 We mapped both of them. 150 00:05:05,118 --> 00:05:07,534 We sent landers down to the bottom and verified, 151 00:05:07,534 --> 00:05:10,137 it's actually in the center portion of the Java Trench, 152 00:05:10,137 --> 00:05:12,054 which is where no one thought it was. 153 00:05:12,054 --> 00:05:14,825 In fact, every time we've completed one of our major dives, 154 00:05:14,825 --> 00:05:17,120 we have to run off to Wikipedia and change it 155 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:18,621 because it's completely wrong. 156 00:05:18,621 --> 00:05:19,621 (Laughter) 157 00:05:20,424 --> 00:05:23,526 DB: So it probably takes longer to get down there 158 00:05:23,526 --> 00:05:25,677 than the time you're able to spend down there? 159 00:05:25,908 --> 00:05:28,664 VV: No, we actually spend quite a bit of time. 160 00:05:28,965 --> 00:05:31,440 I have four days of oxygen supply in the vessel. 161 00:05:31,653 --> 00:05:33,239 If I'm down there for four days, 162 00:05:33,239 --> 00:05:36,021 something's gone so wrong I'm probably not going to use it, 163 00:05:36,021 --> 00:05:39,005 but it about three-hours down to the deepest part of the ocean 164 00:05:39,005 --> 00:05:41,566 and then we can spend usually three or four hours 165 00:05:41,566 --> 00:05:43,121 and then another three hours up. 166 00:05:43,121 --> 00:05:46,124 So you don't want to stay in there for more than 10 or 11 hours. 167 00:05:46,124 --> 00:05:47,417 It can get a little tight. 168 00:05:47,417 --> 00:05:49,604 DB: Alright, so the bottom of the Indian Ocean, 169 00:05:49,604 --> 00:05:54,286 and this is something that no one besides you has ever seen before -- 170 00:05:54,286 --> 00:05:58,200 VV: This is actually imagery from one of our robotic landers. 171 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,010 On the bottom-right you can actually see a robust assfish -- 172 00:06:01,010 --> 00:06:02,728 that's what it's actually called -- 173 00:06:02,728 --> 00:06:03,731 (Laughter) 174 00:06:03,731 --> 00:06:07,081 but you can see from the left a creature that's never been seen before. 175 00:06:07,081 --> 00:06:10,293 It's actually a bottom-dwelling jellyfish called a stalked ascidian, 176 00:06:10,293 --> 00:06:12,677 and none of them have ever looked like this before. 177 00:06:12,677 --> 00:06:15,368 It actually has a small child at the bottom of its stalk, 178 00:06:15,368 --> 00:06:17,522 and it just drifted across beautifully. 179 00:06:17,713 --> 00:06:20,310 So every single dive we have gone on, 180 00:06:20,310 --> 00:06:22,934 even though we're only down there for a couple of hours, 181 00:06:22,934 --> 00:06:24,845 we have found three or four new species 182 00:06:24,845 --> 00:06:28,141 because these are places that have been isolated for billions of years 183 00:06:28,141 --> 00:06:31,609 and no human being has ever been down there to film them 184 00:06:31,609 --> 00:06:32,736 or take samples. 185 00:06:32,736 --> 00:06:34,576 And so this is extraordinary for us -- 186 00:06:34,576 --> 00:06:37,074 (Applause) 187 00:06:37,074 --> 00:06:38,382 So what we are hoping -- 188 00:06:38,382 --> 00:06:41,512 the main objective of our mission is to build this tool. 189 00:06:41,737 --> 00:06:43,340 This tool is a door, 190 00:06:43,340 --> 00:06:44,646 because with this tool, 191 00:06:44,646 --> 00:06:46,824 we'll be able to make more of them potentially 192 00:06:46,824 --> 00:06:49,270 and take scientists down to do thousands of dives 193 00:06:49,270 --> 00:06:51,466 to open that door to exploration 194 00:06:51,466 --> 00:06:54,153 and find things that we had no idea even existed. 195 00:06:54,759 --> 00:06:59,511 DB: And so more people have been to space than the bottom of the ocean. 196 00:06:59,646 --> 00:07:01,064 You're one of three. 197 00:07:01,246 --> 00:07:02,845 You're going to up that number, 198 00:07:02,845 --> 00:07:04,254 you're going to give it away. 199 00:07:04,254 --> 00:07:07,527 VV: Yeah, three people have dived to the bottom of the Pacific Ocean. 200 00:07:07,527 --> 00:07:09,531 [The Trieste] in 1960 with two individuals, 201 00:07:09,531 --> 00:07:12,088 James Cameron in 2012 with his Deep Sea Challenger -- 202 00:07:12,088 --> 00:07:13,085 thank you, Jim, 203 00:07:13,085 --> 00:07:14,087 great sub. 204 00:07:14,087 --> 00:07:15,904 This is a third-generation technology. 205 00:07:15,904 --> 00:07:17,813 We're not only going to try and go down, 206 00:07:17,813 --> 00:07:18,873 actually in two weeks, 207 00:07:18,873 --> 00:07:21,119 but we're going to try and do it multiple times, 208 00:07:21,119 --> 00:07:22,687 which has never been done before. 209 00:07:22,687 --> 00:07:23,687 If we can do that, 210 00:07:23,687 --> 00:07:25,236 we'll have proven the technology 211 00:07:25,236 --> 00:07:26,978 and that door will not just go open, 212 00:07:26,978 --> 00:07:27,979 it will stay open. 213 00:07:27,979 --> 00:07:30,816 (Applause) 214 00:07:30,816 --> 00:07:31,821 DB: Fantastic. 215 00:07:31,821 --> 00:07:32,820 Good luck. 216 00:07:32,820 --> 00:07:34,015 VV: Thank you very much. 217 00:07:34,015 --> 00:07:35,019 DB: Thank you. 218 00:07:35,019 --> 00:07:36,024 VV: Thank you all. 219 00:07:36,024 --> 00:07:37,473 (Applause)