1 00:00:00,730 --> 00:00:04,208 David Biello: So Victor, what have you been up to? 2 00:00:05,042 --> 00:00:07,684 Victor Vescovo: That's the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean, 3 00:00:07,708 --> 00:00:10,684 and I guess I read too much Jules Verne as a young boy, 4 00:00:10,708 --> 00:00:14,559 and so for the last four years I've led a team to design and build 5 00:00:14,583 --> 00:00:18,143 what is now the most advanced and deepest diving submersible on the planet, 6 00:00:18,167 --> 00:00:20,809 and I have the ability to personally pilot it too. 7 00:00:20,833 --> 00:00:23,101 So this was us in December of last year, 8 00:00:23,125 --> 00:00:25,768 for the first time -- the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean. 9 00:00:25,792 --> 00:00:27,726 DB: And nobody's seen that before right? 10 00:00:27,750 --> 00:00:29,476 That's just you. VV: No. 11 00:00:29,500 --> 00:00:30,893 Well, now everybody else. 12 00:00:30,917 --> 00:00:33,434 DB: Who does that? 13 00:00:33,458 --> 00:00:34,726 Like -- 14 00:00:34,750 --> 00:00:38,476 VV: Well, I think everyone has seen the developments in the last 10, 15 years. 15 00:00:38,500 --> 00:00:41,893 You have a bunch of people that have the means to explore outer space, 16 00:00:41,917 --> 00:00:44,268 like SpaceX or Blue Origin -- 17 00:00:44,292 --> 00:00:45,559 those guys -- 18 00:00:45,583 --> 00:00:47,351 and we're going the other direction. 19 00:00:47,375 --> 00:00:48,643 So it's a wonderful era 20 00:00:48,667 --> 00:00:50,893 of private individuals spending their resources 21 00:00:50,917 --> 00:00:53,268 to develop technologies that can take us to places 22 00:00:53,292 --> 00:00:55,101 that have never been explored before, 23 00:00:55,125 --> 00:00:56,976 and the oceans of the world is -- 24 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,684 it's almost a cliché to say it's 70 percent of our entire planet, 25 00:01:00,708 --> 00:01:03,143 and of that, 95 percent is unexplored. 26 00:01:03,167 --> 00:01:05,476 So what we're trying to do with our expedition 27 00:01:05,500 --> 00:01:07,393 is to build and prove out a submersible 28 00:01:07,417 --> 00:01:10,101 that can go to any point on the bottom of the planet 29 00:01:10,125 --> 00:01:14,708 to explore the 60 percent of this planet that is still unexplored. 30 00:01:15,208 --> 00:01:17,559 DB: You need a pretty cool tool to do that, right? 31 00:01:17,583 --> 00:01:18,851 VV: Right. 32 00:01:18,875 --> 00:01:21,476 Now the tool is the submarine, the Limiting Factor. 33 00:01:21,500 --> 00:01:22,976 It's a state-of-the-art vessel 34 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,454 supported by the support ship, the Pressure Drop. 35 00:01:25,478 --> 00:01:28,268 It has a two-person titanium sphere, 90 millimeters-thick, 36 00:01:28,292 --> 00:01:29,893 that keeps it at one atmosphere, 37 00:01:29,917 --> 00:01:32,601 and it has the ability to dive repeatedly 38 00:01:32,625 --> 00:01:35,143 down to the very deepest point of the ocean. 39 00:01:35,167 --> 00:01:39,351 DB: So like the SpaceX of ocean exploration? 40 00:01:39,375 --> 00:01:41,976 VV: Yeah, it's kind of the SpaceX of ocean exploration, 41 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:43,684 but I pilot my own vehicles. 42 00:01:43,708 --> 00:01:45,559 (Laughter) 43 00:01:45,583 --> 00:01:48,726 DB: Are you going to take Elon or...? 44 00:01:48,750 --> 00:01:50,809 VV: Yeah, I could take someone down there. 45 00:01:50,833 --> 00:01:52,309 So, Elon, if you're listening, 46 00:01:52,333 --> 00:01:55,184 I'll give you a ride in mine if you give me a ride in yours. 47 00:01:55,208 --> 00:01:57,000 (Laughter) 48 00:01:58,125 --> 00:02:00,851 DB: So tell us what it's like down there. 49 00:02:00,875 --> 00:02:04,268 I mean, we're talking about a place where the pressure is so intense 50 00:02:04,292 --> 00:02:06,726 that it's like putting an Eiffel Tower on your toe. 51 00:02:06,750 --> 00:02:08,059 VV: It's more than that. 52 00:02:08,083 --> 00:02:09,518 It's about 16,000 psi. 53 00:02:09,542 --> 00:02:11,934 So the issue is that we have this titanium sphere 54 00:02:11,958 --> 00:02:14,393 that allows us to go down to these extreme depths 55 00:02:14,417 --> 00:02:16,059 and come up repeatedly. 56 00:02:16,083 --> 00:02:17,559 That's never been done before. 57 00:02:17,583 --> 00:02:19,643 The Challenger Deep has been dived twice, 58 00:02:19,667 --> 00:02:22,934 once in 1960 and once in 2012 by James Cameron, 59 00:02:22,958 --> 00:02:26,268 and they went down and came back up and those were experimental craft. 60 00:02:26,292 --> 00:02:28,768 This is the first commercially certified submersible 61 00:02:28,792 --> 00:02:32,018 that can go up and down thousands of times with two people, 62 00:02:32,042 --> 00:02:33,309 including a scientist. 63 00:02:33,333 --> 00:02:35,184 We're very proud that we took down 64 00:02:35,208 --> 00:02:37,393 the deepest-diving British citizen in history 65 00:02:37,417 --> 00:02:40,393 just three weeks ago, Dr. Alan Jamieson of Newcastle University 66 00:02:40,417 --> 00:02:43,018 who was down with us on the Java Trench. 67 00:02:43,042 --> 00:02:47,934 DB: So, not too much freaks you out, is what I'm guessing. 68 00:02:47,958 --> 00:02:50,059 VV: Well, it's a lot different to go diving. 69 00:02:50,083 --> 00:02:53,184 If you're claustrophobic, you do not want to be in the submarine. 70 00:02:53,208 --> 00:02:54,559 We go down quite a distance 71 00:02:54,583 --> 00:02:58,018 and the missions typically last eight to nine hours in a confined space. 72 00:02:58,042 --> 00:03:00,518 It's very different from the career I had previously 73 00:03:00,542 --> 00:03:03,184 which was mountain climbing where you're in open spaces, 74 00:03:03,208 --> 00:03:05,018 the wind is whipping, it's very cold. 75 00:03:05,042 --> 00:03:07,268 This is the opposite. It's much more technical. 76 00:03:07,292 --> 00:03:09,893 It's much more about precision in using the instruments 77 00:03:09,917 --> 00:03:12,143 and troubleshooting anything that can go wrong. 78 00:03:12,167 --> 00:03:14,726 But if something really goes wrong in the submersible, 79 00:03:14,750 --> 00:03:16,143 you're not going to know it. 80 00:03:16,167 --> 00:03:17,476 (Laughter) 81 00:03:17,500 --> 00:03:19,976 DB: So you're afraid of leaks is what you're saying. 82 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,851 VV: Leaks are not good, but if it's a leak that's happening, 83 00:03:22,875 --> 00:03:25,059 it's not that bad because if it was really bad 84 00:03:25,083 --> 00:03:26,809 you wouldn't know it, again, but -- 85 00:03:26,833 --> 00:03:29,684 you know, fire in the capsule, that wouldn't be good either, 86 00:03:29,708 --> 00:03:31,768 but it's actually a very safe submersible. 87 00:03:31,792 --> 00:03:34,268 I like to say I don't trust a lot of things in life, 88 00:03:34,292 --> 00:03:36,101 but I do trust titanium, I trust math 89 00:03:36,125 --> 00:03:38,184 and I trust finite element analysis, 90 00:03:38,208 --> 00:03:39,518 which is how you figure out 91 00:03:39,542 --> 00:03:41,601 whether or not things like this can survive 92 00:03:41,625 --> 00:03:43,768 these extraordinary pressures and conditions. 93 00:03:43,792 --> 00:03:46,934 DB: And that sphere is so perfectly machined, right? 94 00:03:46,958 --> 00:03:48,934 This is a truly unique craft. 95 00:03:48,958 --> 00:03:50,434 VV: That was the real trick -- 96 00:03:50,458 --> 00:03:52,309 is actually building a titanium sphere 97 00:03:52,333 --> 00:03:55,476 that was accurate to within .1 percent of machine. 98 00:03:55,500 --> 00:03:57,059 Titanium is a hard metal to work 99 00:03:57,083 --> 00:03:59,143 and a lot of people haven't figured it out, 100 00:03:59,167 --> 00:04:00,518 but we were very fortunate. 101 00:04:00,542 --> 00:04:03,643 Our extraordinary team was able to make an almost perfect sphere, 102 00:04:03,667 --> 00:04:06,101 which when you're subjecting something to pressure, 103 00:04:06,125 --> 00:04:08,184 that's the strongest geometry you can have. 104 00:04:08,208 --> 00:04:10,601 When I'm in the submersible and that hatch closes, 105 00:04:10,625 --> 00:04:13,351 I'm confident that I'm going to go down and come back up. 106 00:04:13,375 --> 00:04:15,476 DB: And that's the thing you double-check -- 107 00:04:15,500 --> 00:04:16,809 that the hatch is closed? 108 00:04:16,833 --> 00:04:19,267 VV: There are only two rules in diving a submarine. 109 00:04:19,291 --> 00:04:21,184 Number one is close the hatch securely. 110 00:04:21,208 --> 00:04:23,184 Number two is go back to rule number one. 111 00:04:23,208 --> 00:04:26,601 DB: Alright so, Atlantic Ocean: check. 112 00:04:26,625 --> 00:04:28,393 Southern Ocean: check. 113 00:04:28,417 --> 00:04:30,893 VV: No one has ever dived the Southern Ocean before. 114 00:04:30,917 --> 00:04:32,226 I know why. 115 00:04:32,250 --> 00:04:33,643 It's really, really hostile. 116 00:04:33,667 --> 00:04:34,976 The weather is awful. 117 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,226 The word collision comes to mind. 118 00:04:37,250 --> 00:04:39,101 But we did that one, yes. 119 00:04:39,125 --> 00:04:40,643 Glad that's over -- DB: Yeah -- 120 00:04:40,667 --> 00:04:42,018 VV: Thank you. 121 00:04:42,042 --> 00:04:43,184 (Applause) 122 00:04:43,208 --> 00:04:45,101 DB: It's like you're racing through it. 123 00:04:45,125 --> 00:04:47,559 And now the Indian Ocean, as Kelly mentioned. 124 00:04:47,583 --> 00:04:49,309 VV: Yeah, that was three weeks ago. 125 00:04:49,333 --> 00:04:51,934 We were fortunate enough to actually solve the mystery. 126 00:04:51,958 --> 00:04:53,893 If someone had asked me three weeks ago, 127 00:04:53,917 --> 00:04:56,351 "What is the deepest point in the Indian Ocean?" -- 128 00:04:56,375 --> 00:04:57,643 no one really knew. 129 00:04:57,667 --> 00:04:58,976 There were two candidates, 130 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,643 one off of Western Australia and one in the Java Trench. 131 00:05:01,667 --> 00:05:04,101 We have this wonderful ship with a brilliant sonar. 132 00:05:04,125 --> 00:05:05,393 We mapped both of them. 133 00:05:05,417 --> 00:05:07,684 We sent landers down to the bottom and verified. 134 00:05:07,708 --> 00:05:10,309 It's actually in the center portion of the Java Trench, 135 00:05:10,333 --> 00:05:12,143 which is where no one thought it was. 136 00:05:12,167 --> 00:05:14,976 In fact, every time we've completed one of our major dives, 137 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,143 we have to run off to Wikipedia and change it 138 00:05:17,167 --> 00:05:18,643 because it's completely wrong. 139 00:05:18,667 --> 00:05:20,309 (Laughter) 140 00:05:20,333 --> 00:05:23,393 DB: So it probably takes longer to get down there 141 00:05:23,417 --> 00:05:25,684 than the time you're able to spend down there? 142 00:05:25,708 --> 00:05:28,601 VV: No, we actually spend quite a bit of time. 143 00:05:28,625 --> 00:05:31,476 I have four days of oxygen supply in the vessel. 144 00:05:31,500 --> 00:05:33,059 If I'm down there for four days, 145 00:05:33,083 --> 00:05:35,893 something's gone so wrong I'm probably not going to use it, 146 00:05:35,917 --> 00:05:38,976 but it's about three hours down to the deepest part of the ocean 147 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,309 and then we can spend usually three or four hours 148 00:05:41,333 --> 00:05:42,893 and then another three hours up. 149 00:05:42,917 --> 00:05:45,976 So you don't want to stay in there for more than 10 or 11 hours. 150 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:47,309 It can get a little tight. 151 00:05:47,333 --> 00:05:49,559 DB: Alright, so the bottom of the Indian Ocean. 152 00:05:49,583 --> 00:05:53,851 And this is something that no one besides you has ever seen before -- 153 00:05:53,875 --> 00:05:57,893 VV: This is actually imagery from one of our robotic landers. 154 00:05:57,917 --> 00:06:00,851 On the bottom right you can actually see a robust assfish -- 155 00:06:00,875 --> 00:06:02,476 that's what it's actually called. 156 00:06:02,500 --> 00:06:03,518 (Laughter) 157 00:06:03,542 --> 00:06:06,934 But you can see from the left a creature that's never been seen before. 158 00:06:06,958 --> 00:06:10,184 It's actually a bottom-dwelling jellyfish called a stalked ascidian, 159 00:06:10,208 --> 00:06:12,643 and none of them have ever looked like this before. 160 00:06:12,667 --> 00:06:15,393 It actually has a small child at the bottom of its stalk, 161 00:06:15,417 --> 00:06:17,559 and it just drifted across beautifully. 162 00:06:17,583 --> 00:06:20,059 So every single dive we have gone on, 163 00:06:20,083 --> 00:06:22,726 even though we're only down there for a couple of hours, 164 00:06:22,750 --> 00:06:24,643 we have found three or four new species 165 00:06:24,667 --> 00:06:27,976 because these are places that have been isolated for billions of years 166 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,351 and no human being has ever been down there to film them 167 00:06:31,375 --> 00:06:32,643 or take samples. 168 00:06:32,667 --> 00:06:34,518 And so this is extraordinary for us -- 169 00:06:34,542 --> 00:06:36,893 (Applause) 170 00:06:36,917 --> 00:06:38,226 So what we are hoping -- 171 00:06:38,250 --> 00:06:41,601 the main objective of our mission is to build this tool. 172 00:06:41,625 --> 00:06:43,268 This tool is a door, 173 00:06:43,292 --> 00:06:44,601 because with this tool, 174 00:06:44,625 --> 00:06:46,809 we'll be able to make more of them potentially 175 00:06:46,833 --> 00:06:49,184 and take scientists down to do thousands of dives, 176 00:06:49,208 --> 00:06:51,434 to open that door to exploration 177 00:06:51,458 --> 00:06:54,518 and find things that we had no idea even existed. 178 00:06:54,542 --> 00:06:59,434 DB: And so more people have been to space than the bottom of the ocean. 179 00:06:59,458 --> 00:07:01,101 You're one of three. 180 00:07:01,125 --> 00:07:04,018 You're going to up that number, you're going to give it away. 181 00:07:04,042 --> 00:07:07,309 VV: Yeah, three people have dived to the bottom of the Pacific Ocean. 182 00:07:07,333 --> 00:07:09,476 The USS Trieste in 1960 with two individuals. 183 00:07:09,500 --> 00:07:12,018 James Cameron in 2012 with his Deep Sea Challenger -- 184 00:07:12,042 --> 00:07:13,601 thank you, Jim, great sub. 185 00:07:13,625 --> 00:07:15,476 This is a third-generation technology. 186 00:07:15,500 --> 00:07:18,476 We're not only going to try and go down, actually in two weeks, 187 00:07:18,500 --> 00:07:20,768 but we're going to try and do it multiple times, 188 00:07:20,792 --> 00:07:22,393 which has never been done before. 189 00:07:22,417 --> 00:07:24,851 If we can do that, we'll have proven the technology 190 00:07:24,875 --> 00:07:27,476 and that door will not just go open, it will stay open. 191 00:07:27,500 --> 00:07:30,768 (Applause) 192 00:07:30,792 --> 00:07:32,101 DB: Fantastic. Good luck. 193 00:07:32,125 --> 00:07:33,976 VV: Thank you very much. DB: Thank you. 194 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:35,268 VV: Thank you all. 195 00:07:35,292 --> 00:07:37,833 (Applause)