1 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 David Bello: So Victor, what have you been up to? 2 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Victor Vescovo: That's the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean, 3 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and I guess I read too much Jules Verne as a young boy, 4 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and so for the last four years I've led a team to design and build 5 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 what is now the most advanced 6 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and deepest diving submersible on the planet. 7 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And I have the ability to personally pilot it too. 8 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So this was us in December of last year 9 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 for the first time -- 10 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean. 11 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 DB: And nobody's seen that before right? 12 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 That's just you. 13 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 VV: No -- 14 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 well, now everybody else. 15 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 DB: Who does that? 16 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Like -- 17 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 VV: Well, I think everyone has seen all the developments the last 10-15 years, 18 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 you have a bunch of people that have the means to explore outer space, 19 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 like SpaceX or Blue Origin -- 20 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 those guys -- 21 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and we're going in the other direction. 22 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So it's a wonderful era 23 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 of private individuals spending their resources 24 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to develop technologies that can take us to places 25 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that have never been explored before, 26 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and the oceans of the world is -- 27 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 it's almost a cliché to say -- 28 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 70 percent of our entire planet, 29 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and of that, 95 percent is unexplored. 30 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So what we're trying to with our expedition 31 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 is to build and [prove] out a submersible 32 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that can go to any point on the bottom of the planet 33 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to explore the 60 percent of this planet that is still unexplored. 34 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 DB: You need a pretty cool tool to do that, right? 35 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 VV: Right. 36 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Now the tool is the submarine Limiting Factor. 37 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It's a state-of-the-art vessel support by the support ship, 38 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the Pressure Drop. 39 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It has a two-person titanium sphere, 40 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 90 milimeters-thick, 41 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that keeps it at one atmosphere 42 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and it has the ability to dive repeatedly 43 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 down to the very deepest point of the ocean. 44 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 DB: So like the SpaceX of ocean exploration? 45 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 VV: Yeah, it's kind of the SpaceX of ocean exploration, 46 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but I pilot my own vehicles. 47 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (Laughter) 48 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 VV: You're going to take Elon or ... ? 49 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 VV: Yeah, I could take someone down there. 50 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So, Elon, I don't if you're listening, 51 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I'll give you a ride in mine 52 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 if you give me a ride in yours. 53 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (Laughter) 54 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (Applause) 55 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 DB: So tell us what it's like down there. 56 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I mean, we're talking about a place where the pressure is so intense 57 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that it's like putting the Eiffel Tower on your toe. 58 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 VV: It's more than that. 59 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It's about 16,000 psi. 60 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So the issue is we have this titanium sphere 61 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that allows us to go down to these extreme depths 62 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and come up repeatedly. 63 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 That's never been done before. 64 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 The Challenger Deep has been dived twice, 65 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 once in 1960 and once in 2012 by James Cameron, 66 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and they went down and came back up 67 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and those were experimental craft. 68 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 This is the first commercially certified submersible. 69 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It can go up and down thousands of times with two people, 70 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 including a scientist. 71 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And we're very proud 72 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that we just took down the deepest-diving British citizen in history 73 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 just three weeks ago, 74 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Dr. Alan Jamieson of Newcastle University 75 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 who was down with us on the Java Trench. 76 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 DB: So not too much freaks you out is what I'm guessing. 77 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 VV: Well, it's a lot different to go diving. 78 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 If you're claustrophobic you do not want to be in the submarine. 79 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 We go down quite a distance 80 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and the missions typically last eight to nine hours in a confined space. 81 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So it's very different to the career I had previous to this, 82 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 which was mountain climbing, 83 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 where you're in large, open spaces, 84 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the wind is whipping, 85 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 it's very, very cold. 86 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 This is the opposite. 87 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It's much more technical. 88 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It's much more about precision and using the instruments 89 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and troubleshooting anything that can go wrong. 90 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 But actually if something really goes wrong in the submersible, 91 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 you're not going to know it. 92 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (Laughter) 93 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 DB: So you're afraid of leaks is what you're saying. 94 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 VV: Yeah, leaks are not good, 95 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but if it's a leak that's happening, 96 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 well at least it's not that bad 97 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 because if it was really bad you wouldn't know it -- 98 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 again, but -- 99 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (Laughter) 100 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 You know, fire in the capsule, 101 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that wouldn't be good either, 102 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but no, it's actually a very, very safe submersible. 103 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I like to say I don't trust a lot of things in life, 104 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but I do trust titanium, 105 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I trust math 106 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and I trust finite element analysis, 107 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 which is how you figure out 108 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 whether or not things like this can survive 109 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 these extraordinary pressures and conditions. 110 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 DB: And that sphere is so perfectly machined, right? 111 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 This is a truly unique craft. 112 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 VV: That was the real trick -- 113 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 is actually building a titanium sphere that was accurate .1 percent of machine. 114 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Titanium is a hard [mill] to work 115 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and a lot of people haven't been able to figure it out, 116 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but we were very fortunate. 117 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I've been working with and extraodinary team 118 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that was able to make an almost perfect sphere, 119 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 which when you're subjecting something to pressure, 120 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that's the strongest geometry you can possibly have. 121 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So when I'm actually in the submersible and that hatch closes, 122 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I actually feel very confident 123 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that I'm going to go down and come back up. 124 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 DB: And that's the thing you double-check, right? 125 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 That the hatch is closed? 126 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 VV: There are only two rules in diving a submaring. 127 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Number one is close the hatch securely. 128 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Number two is go back to rule number one. 129 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (Laughter) 130 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 DB: Alright so, Atlantic Ocean: 131 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 check. 132 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Southern Ocean: 133 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 check -- 134 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 VV: Yeah, no one has ever dived the Southern Ocean before. 135 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I know why -- 136 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 it's really, really hostile. 137 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 The weather is awful. 138 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 The word collision kind of comes to mind. 139 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 But we did that one, yes. 140 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Glad that's over -- 141 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (Applause) 142 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 DB: Yeah -- 143 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 VV: Thank you. 144 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 DB: Yeah 145 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (Applause) 146 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It's like you're racing through it. 147 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And now the Indian Ocean, 148 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 as Kelly mentioned. 149 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 VV: Yeah, that was three weeks ago. 150 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 We were fortunate enough to 151 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 for the first time actually solve the mystery. 152 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 if someone had asked me three weeks ago, 153 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 "What is the deepest point in the Indian Ocean?" 154 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 no one really knew. 155 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 There were two candidates, 156 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 one off of Western Australia and one in the Java Trench. 157 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 We had this wonderful ship with a brilliant sonar. 158 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 We mapped both of them. 159 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 We sent landers down to the bottom and actually verified -- 160 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 it's actually in the center portion of the Java Trench, 161 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 which is where no one thought it was. 162 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 In fact, every time we've completed one of our major dives, 163 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 we have to run off to Wikipedia and change it 164 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 because it's completely wrong. 165 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (Laughter) 166 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 DB: So it probably takes longer to get down there 167 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 than the time you're able to spend down there? 168 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 VV: No, we actually spend quite a bit of time. 169 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I have four days of oxygen supply in the vessel. 170 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 If I'm down there for four days, 171 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 something's gone so wrong I'm probably not going to use it, 172 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but it fell three-hours down to the deepest part of the ocean 173 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and then we can spend usually three or four hours 174 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and then another three hours up, 175 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 so you don't really want to stay in there for more than 10 or 11 hours. 176 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It can get a little tight. 177 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 DB: Alright, so the bottom of the Indian Ocean, 178 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and so this something that no one besides you has ever seen before -- 179 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 VV: This is actually imagery from one of our robotic landers. 180 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 On the bottom-right you can actually see a robust assfish -- 181 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that's what it's actually called -- 182 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (Laughter) 183 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 But you can see from the left a creature that's never been seen before. 184 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It's actually a bottom-dwelling jellyfish called a stalked ascidian, 185 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and none of them have ever looked like this before. 186 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It actually has a small child at the bottom of its stalk, 187 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and it just drifted across beautifully. 188 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So every single dive we have gone on, 189 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 even though we're only down there for a couple of hours, 190 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 we have found three or four new species 191 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 because these are places that have been isolated for billions of years 192 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and no human being has ever been down there to film them 193 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 or take samples. 194 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And so this is extroardinary -- 195 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (Applause) 196 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Thanks. 197 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (Applause) 198 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So what we are hoping -- 199 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the main objective of our mission is to build this tool. 200 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 This tool is a door. 201 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Because with this tool, 202 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 we'll be able to make more of them potentially 203 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and take scientists down to do thousands of dives 204 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to open that door to exploration 205 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and find things that we had no idea existed. 206 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 DB: And so more people have been to space than the bottom of the ocean. 207 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 You're one of three. 208 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 You're going to up that number, 209 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 you're going to give it away. 210 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 VV: Yeah, three people have dived to the bottom of the Pacific Ocean. 211 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 [Dios.....] in 1960 with two indivisuals, 212 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 James Cameron in 2012 with his Deep Sea Challenger -- 213 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 thank you, Jim, 214 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 great sub. 215 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And this is a third-generation technology. 216 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 We're not only going to try and go down, 217 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 actually in two weeks, 218 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but we're going to try and do it multiple times 219 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 which has never been done before. 220 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 If we can do that, 221 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 we'll have proved the technology 222 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and that door will not just go open, 223 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 it will stay open. 224 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (Applause) 225 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 DB: Fantastic. 226 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Good luck. 227 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 VV: Thank you very much. 228 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 DB: Thank you. 229 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 VV: Thank you all. 230 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (Applause)