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[Thomas Hirschhorn : "Gramsci Monument"]

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[Forest Houses, Bronx, New-York]

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["Gramsci Monument" (2013)]

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[Ouverture du "Monument Gramsci"]

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[HARRY DRAKE] Ok, désolé de vous interrompre.

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C'est l'homme d'une heure.

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C'est l'homme, en dehors d'Erik, qui nous a tout ramené.

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[YASMIL RAYMOND] Thomas pense que "plus c'est plus."

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Vous savez, c'est un jeu de mots sur Miles van der Rohe, qui disait, "moins est plus."

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Et dans cette "plus est plus" philosophie de Thomas Hirschhorn,

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cela signifie qu'une énorme quantité d'activités, tout le temps,

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rend parfois confus ce qui se passe.

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[HARRY DRAKE] Ce que tu fais pour cette communauté et tout ceci...

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[HIRSCHHORN], Non je ne le fais pas...

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Je ne fais pas quelque chose pour la communauté.

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Je fais quelque chose, j'espère, pour l'art...

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[HARRY DRAKE] Ok.

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Et la compréhension de l'art. C'est mon...

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C'est mon but.

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[LEX BROWN] Quelque chose que Thomas dit toujours est que

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il n'est pas venu ici pour, aider les gens --

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il est venu ici à Forest House and a demandé aux gens qui habitaient ici

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de les aider à faire des ouvrages.

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Et c'est une très grosse différence.

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Il y a une différence importante entre ces deux choses,

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