1 00:00:01,250 --> 00:00:03,393 By October 2018, 2 00:00:03,417 --> 00:00:06,809 Juan Carlos Rivera could no longer afford 3 00:00:06,833 --> 00:00:09,500 to live in his home in Copan, Honduras. 4 00:00:10,333 --> 00:00:12,226 As the "Dallas Morning News" reported, 5 00:00:12,250 --> 00:00:16,250 a gang was taking 10 percent of his earnings from his barber shop. 6 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:21,309 His wife was assaulted going to her pre-K teaching job. 7 00:00:21,333 --> 00:00:24,726 And they were concerned about the safety of their young daughter. 8 00:00:24,750 --> 00:00:26,559 What could they do? 9 00:00:26,583 --> 00:00:27,851 Run away? 10 00:00:27,875 --> 00:00:30,309 Seek asylum in another country? 11 00:00:30,333 --> 00:00:31,976 They didn't want to do that. 12 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,125 They just wanted to live in their country safely. 13 00:00:35,875 --> 00:00:37,809 But their options were limited. 14 00:00:37,833 --> 00:00:39,101 So that month, 15 00:00:39,125 --> 00:00:42,851 Juan Carlos moved his family to a safer location 16 00:00:42,875 --> 00:00:47,559 while he joined a group of migrants on the long and perilous journey 17 00:00:47,583 --> 00:00:49,434 from Central America 18 00:00:49,458 --> 00:00:55,809 to a job a family member said was open for him in the United States. 19 00:00:55,833 --> 00:00:58,393 By now we're all familiar with what awaited them 20 00:00:58,417 --> 00:01:00,726 at the US-Mexico border. 21 00:01:00,750 --> 00:01:04,768 The harsher and harsher penalties doled out to those crossing there. 22 00:01:04,792 --> 00:01:08,184 The criminal prosecutions for crossing illegally. 23 00:01:08,208 --> 00:01:10,184 The inhumane detention. 24 00:01:10,208 --> 00:01:13,375 And most terribly, the separation of families. 25 00:01:14,375 --> 00:01:17,684 I'm here to tell you that not only is this treatment wrong, 26 00:01:17,708 --> 00:01:19,643 it's unnecessary. 27 00:01:19,667 --> 00:01:24,101 This belief that the only way to maintain order 28 00:01:24,125 --> 00:01:26,684 is with inhumane means 29 00:01:26,708 --> 00:01:28,143 is inaccurate. 30 00:01:28,167 --> 00:01:30,792 And in fact, the opposite is true. 31 00:01:31,833 --> 00:01:37,333 Only a humane system will create order at the border. 32 00:01:39,167 --> 00:01:44,684 When safe, orderly, legal travel to the United States is available, 33 00:01:44,708 --> 00:01:48,059 very few people choose travel that is unsafe, 34 00:01:48,083 --> 00:01:50,375 disorderly or illegal. 35 00:01:51,292 --> 00:01:52,768 Now, I appreciate the idea 36 00:01:52,792 --> 00:01:57,309 that legal immigration could just resolve the border crisis 37 00:01:57,333 --> 00:01:59,768 might sound a bit fanciful. 38 00:01:59,792 --> 00:02:01,726 But here is the good news: 39 00:02:01,750 --> 00:02:04,333 We have done this before. 40 00:02:05,042 --> 00:02:07,226 I've been working on immigration for years 41 00:02:07,250 --> 00:02:08,934 at the Cato Institute, 42 00:02:08,958 --> 00:02:11,434 and other think tanks in Washington DC, 43 00:02:11,458 --> 00:02:15,143 and as the senior policy adviser for a republican member of Congress, 44 00:02:15,167 --> 00:02:19,768 negotiating bipartisan immigration reform. 45 00:02:19,792 --> 00:02:21,643 And I've seen firsthand 46 00:02:21,667 --> 00:02:27,226 how America has implemented a system of humane order at the border 47 00:02:27,250 --> 00:02:29,101 for Mexico. 48 00:02:29,125 --> 00:02:31,458 It's called a guest worker program. 49 00:02:32,333 --> 00:02:34,309 And here's the even better news. 50 00:02:34,333 --> 00:02:38,542 We can replicate this success for Central America. 51 00:02:39,542 --> 00:02:41,434 Of course, some people 52 00:02:41,458 --> 00:02:44,809 will still need to seek asylum at the border. 53 00:02:44,833 --> 00:02:49,101 But to understand how successful 54 00:02:49,125 --> 00:02:52,768 this could be for immigrants like Juan Carlos, 55 00:02:52,792 --> 00:02:55,184 understand that until recently, 56 00:02:55,208 --> 00:03:00,292 nearly every immigrant arrested by Border Patrol was Mexican. 57 00:03:01,583 --> 00:03:04,059 In 1986, 58 00:03:04,083 --> 00:03:10,018 each Border Patrol agent arrested 510 Mexicans. 59 00:03:10,042 --> 00:03:12,643 Well over one per day. 60 00:03:12,667 --> 00:03:15,601 By 2019, this number was just eight. 61 00:03:15,625 --> 00:03:18,268 That's one every 43 days. 62 00:03:18,292 --> 00:03:21,083 It is a 98 percent reduction. 63 00:03:22,750 --> 00:03:26,226 So where have all the Mexicans gone? 64 00:03:26,250 --> 00:03:28,559 The most significant change 65 00:03:28,583 --> 00:03:30,851 is that the US began issuing 66 00:03:30,875 --> 00:03:35,101 hundreds of thousands of guest worker visas to Mexicans, 67 00:03:35,125 --> 00:03:37,851 so that they can come legally. 68 00:03:37,875 --> 00:03:42,809 José Vásquez Cabrera was among the first Mexican guest workers 69 00:03:42,833 --> 00:03:45,708 to take advantage of this visa expansion. 70 00:03:46,458 --> 00:03:49,893 He told "The New York Times" that before his visa 71 00:03:49,917 --> 00:03:53,851 he'd made terrifying illegal border crossings, 72 00:03:53,875 --> 00:03:57,667 braving near deadly heat and the treachery of the landscape. 73 00:03:58,458 --> 00:04:03,500 One time, a snake killed a member of his group. 74 00:04:04,958 --> 00:04:08,393 Thousands of other Mexicans also didn't make it, 75 00:04:08,417 --> 00:04:12,684 dying of dehydration in the deserts or drowning in the Rio Grande. 76 00:04:12,708 --> 00:04:16,250 Millions more were chased down and arrested. 77 00:04:16,917 --> 00:04:21,851 Guest worker visas have nearly ended this inhumane chaos. 78 00:04:21,875 --> 00:04:24,434 As Vásquez Cabrera put it, 79 00:04:24,458 --> 00:04:27,726 "I no longer have to risk my life 80 00:04:27,750 --> 00:04:29,726 to support my family. 81 00:04:29,750 --> 00:04:32,708 And when I'm here, I don't have to live in hiding." 82 00:04:33,500 --> 00:04:37,684 Guest worker visas actually reduced the number of illegal crossings 83 00:04:37,708 --> 00:04:40,167 more than the number of visas issued. 84 00:04:41,250 --> 00:04:45,059 Jose Bacilio, another Mexican guest worker, explained why 85 00:04:45,083 --> 00:04:47,643 to the "Washington Post" in April. 86 00:04:47,667 --> 00:04:52,851 He said, even though he hadn't received a visa this year, 87 00:04:52,875 --> 00:04:56,643 he wouldn't risk all of his future chances 88 00:04:56,667 --> 00:04:58,125 by crossing illegally. 89 00:04:59,417 --> 00:05:02,018 This likely helps explain why 90 00:05:02,042 --> 00:05:05,518 from 1996 to 2019 91 00:05:05,542 --> 00:05:10,476 for every guest worker admitted legally from Mexico, 92 00:05:10,500 --> 00:05:15,542 there was a decline in two arrests of Mexicans crossing illegally. 93 00:05:16,875 --> 00:05:18,351 Now, it's true, 94 00:05:18,375 --> 00:05:22,893 Mexican guest workers do some really tough jobs. 95 00:05:22,917 --> 00:05:25,643 Picking fruit, cleaning crabs, 96 00:05:25,667 --> 00:05:27,792 landscaping in a 100-degree heat. 97 00:05:28,792 --> 00:05:31,768 And some critics maintain that guest worker visas 98 00:05:31,792 --> 00:05:33,934 are not actually humane, 99 00:05:33,958 --> 00:05:36,750 and that the workers are just abused slaves. 100 00:05:37,333 --> 00:05:43,268 But Vásquez Cabrera thought a guest worker visa was liberating. 101 00:05:43,292 --> 00:05:45,018 Not enslavement. 102 00:05:45,042 --> 00:05:47,809 And he, like nearly all other guest workers, 103 00:05:47,833 --> 00:05:53,458 chose the legal path over the illegal one, repeatedly. 104 00:05:55,292 --> 00:05:59,601 The expansion of guest worker visas to Mexicans 105 00:05:59,625 --> 00:06:04,434 has been among the most significant humane changes 106 00:06:04,458 --> 00:06:07,333 in US immigration policy ever. 107 00:06:08,250 --> 00:06:10,601 And that humane change 108 00:06:10,625 --> 00:06:13,792 imposed order on chaos. 109 00:06:15,625 --> 00:06:19,434 So where does this leave Central Americans, 110 00:06:19,458 --> 00:06:20,833 like Juan Carlos? 111 00:06:22,333 --> 00:06:24,601 Well, Central Americans received 112 00:06:24,625 --> 00:06:30,851 just three percent of the guest worker visas issued in 2019, 113 00:06:30,875 --> 00:06:36,458 even as their share of border arrests has risen to 74 percent. 114 00:06:37,250 --> 00:06:42,309 The US issued just one guest worker visa to a Central American 115 00:06:42,333 --> 00:06:47,667 for every 78 who crossed the border illegally in 2019. 116 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,393 So if they can't get their papers at home, 117 00:06:52,417 --> 00:06:54,809 many take their chances, 118 00:06:54,833 --> 00:06:58,351 coming up through Mexico to claim asylum at the border 119 00:06:58,375 --> 00:07:00,018 or cross illegally, 120 00:07:00,042 --> 00:07:03,625 even if, like Juan Carlos, they prefer to come to work. 121 00:07:04,750 --> 00:07:06,792 The US can do better. 122 00:07:07,500 --> 00:07:11,184 It needs to create new guest worker visas 123 00:07:11,208 --> 00:07:13,750 specifically for Central Americans. 124 00:07:14,667 --> 00:07:17,476 This would create an incentive for US businesses 125 00:07:17,500 --> 00:07:20,726 to seek out and hire Central Americans, 126 00:07:20,750 --> 00:07:23,768 paying for their flights to the United States, 127 00:07:23,792 --> 00:07:28,042 and diverting them from the illegal, dangerous trek north. 128 00:07:28,708 --> 00:07:32,559 Central Americans could build flourishing lives at home, 129 00:07:32,583 --> 00:07:35,143 without the need to seek asylum at the border 130 00:07:35,167 --> 00:07:36,434 or cross illegally, 131 00:07:36,458 --> 00:07:39,375 freeing up an overwhelmed system. 132 00:07:40,417 --> 00:07:42,268 Some people might say 133 00:07:42,292 --> 00:07:45,351 that letting the workers go back and forth 134 00:07:45,375 --> 00:07:48,101 will never work in Central America 135 00:07:48,125 --> 00:07:49,875 where violence is so high. 136 00:07:50,917 --> 00:07:54,226 But again, it worked in Mexico, 137 00:07:54,250 --> 00:07:59,268 even as Mexico's murder rate more than tripled over the last decade, 138 00:07:59,292 --> 00:08:03,000 to a level higher than much of Central America. 139 00:08:03,833 --> 00:08:06,393 And it would work for Juan Carlos, 140 00:08:06,417 --> 00:08:08,601 who said, despite the threats 141 00:08:08,625 --> 00:08:12,476 he only wants to live in the United States temporarily, 142 00:08:12,500 --> 00:08:13,768 to make enough money 143 00:08:13,792 --> 00:08:16,583 to sustain his family in their new home. 144 00:08:17,250 --> 00:08:21,351 He even suggested that a guest worker program 145 00:08:21,375 --> 00:08:25,333 would be one of the best things to help Hondurans like him. 146 00:08:26,500 --> 00:08:33,143 Santia, a 29-year-old single mother of three from Honduras, 147 00:08:33,167 --> 00:08:34,809 seems to agree. 148 00:08:34,833 --> 00:08:39,059 She told the "Wall Street Journal" that she came for a job 149 00:08:39,083 --> 00:08:41,708 to support her kids and her mom. 150 00:08:42,708 --> 00:08:46,601 Surveys of Central Americans traveling through Mexico, 151 00:08:46,625 --> 00:08:49,518 by the College of the Northern Border in Mexico, 152 00:08:49,542 --> 00:08:53,958 confirm that Juan and Santia are the norm. 153 00:08:54,792 --> 00:08:58,809 Most, not all, but most do come for jobs, 154 00:08:58,833 --> 00:09:00,934 even if, like the Riveras, 155 00:09:00,958 --> 00:09:04,167 they may also face some real threats at home. 156 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:10,309 How much would a low-wage job help 157 00:09:10,333 --> 00:09:12,958 a Honduran, like Juan or Santia? 158 00:09:13,833 --> 00:09:17,559 Hondurans like them make as much 159 00:09:17,583 --> 00:09:20,893 in one month in the United States 160 00:09:20,917 --> 00:09:26,875 as they do in an entire year working in Honduras. 161 00:09:27,417 --> 00:09:29,809 A few years' work in the United States 162 00:09:29,833 --> 00:09:34,226 can propel a Central American into its upper middle class 163 00:09:34,250 --> 00:09:36,333 where safety is easier to come by. 164 00:09:37,375 --> 00:09:41,143 What Central Americans lack is not the desire to work. 165 00:09:41,167 --> 00:09:45,059 Not the desire to contribute to the US economy, 166 00:09:45,083 --> 00:09:48,684 to contribute to the lives of Americans. 167 00:09:48,708 --> 00:09:53,101 What Central Americans lack is a legal alternative to asylum. 168 00:09:53,125 --> 00:09:55,000 To be able to do so legally. 169 00:09:56,458 --> 00:09:59,309 Of course, a new guest worker program 170 00:09:59,333 --> 00:10:05,208 will not resolve 100 percent of this complex phenomenon. 171 00:10:06,375 --> 00:10:10,726 Many asylum seekers will still need to seek safety 172 00:10:10,750 --> 00:10:12,042 at the US border. 173 00:10:12,917 --> 00:10:14,726 But with the flows reduced, 174 00:10:14,750 --> 00:10:18,417 we can more easily work out ways to deal with them humanely. 175 00:10:19,667 --> 00:10:21,268 But ultimately, 176 00:10:21,292 --> 00:10:26,309 no single policy has proven to do more 177 00:10:26,333 --> 00:10:30,934 to create an immigration system that is both humane 178 00:10:30,958 --> 00:10:32,851 and orderly 179 00:10:32,875 --> 00:10:36,250 than to let the workers come legally. 180 00:10:37,167 --> 00:10:38,434 Thank you. 181 00:10:38,458 --> 00:10:43,208 (Applause)