Mark Meadows: Mr President everybody is on the line
and just so, this is Mark Meadows the chief of staff
just so we all are aware
on the line is secretary of state and two other individuals,
Jordan and Mr Germany with him.
You also have the attorneys that represent the President,
Kurt and Alex and Cleta Mitchell who is not the attorney of record
but has been involved, myself and then the President.
So Mr president, i'll turn it over to you
Donald Trump: okay thank you very much.
Hello, Brad and Ryan and everybody: we appreciate the time and the call.
So we've spent a lot of time on this and
if we could just go over some of the numbers
i think it's pretty clear that we won, we won very substantially Georgia,
you even see it by rally size, frankly.
Would be getting 25, 30 000 people a rally
and the competition would get less than 100 people.
and it never made sense, but we have a number of things,
we have at least two or three
anywhere from 250 to 300 000 ballots
were dropped mysteriously into the rolls.
Much of that had to do with Fulton County which hasn't been checked
we think that if you check the signatures a real check of the signatures
going back in Fulton County, you'll find at least
a couple of hundred thousand of forged signatures
of people with -- that who's who have been forged
and we are quite sure that's going to happen.
Another tremendous number --
we're going to have an accurate number over the next two days,
with certified accountants -- but an accurate number uh will be given,
but it's in the 50s of thousands, and that's people that went to vote
and they were told they can't vote
because they've already been voted for
and it's a very sad thing. ***
they walked out complaining but they the
the numbers large will have it
for you but it's very it's much more
than the uh number
of 11 779 that's
the the current margin is only 11
779 brad i think i think you agree with
that
right that's that's something i think
everyone at least that's the number that
everyone agrees on
but that's the difference uh in the
votes
but we've had uh hundreds of thousands
of ballots that we're
uh we're we're able to actually we'll
get you a pretty accurate number you
don't need much of a number because the
number that
in theory i lost by the margin would be
11
seventy nine uh but you also have uh
substantial uh numbers of people
thousands and thousands who went to the
voting place on november third
were told they couldn't vote we're told
they couldn't vote because a ballot had
been put in
on their name and uh you know that's
uh very very very very sad we had
um i believe it's about 4502 voters
who voted uh but who weren't on the
voter registration list so it's 5
4 502 who voted but they
were not on the voter registration role
which they had to be
uh you had 18 325 vacant address voters
they had no
the address was vacant uh and they're
not allowed to be
counted that's 18 325.
uh smaller number you had 904 who
uh only voted uh where they had just a
po a post office box number
and they had a post office box number
and that's
not allowed we had uh
at least 18 000 that's on tape we had
them counted
very painstakingly 18 000 voters
uh having to do with ruby freeman that's
she's a vote scammer
a professional vote scammer and hustler
ruby freeman uh that is uh that was the
tape that's been shown all over the
world that makes everybody look bad
uh you me and everybody else where they
got uh
number one they they said they said very
clearly and and
it's been reported that they said there
was a major water main break
everybody fled the area
and then they came back ruby friedman
her daughter and a few people
there were no republican poll watchers
actually there were no democrat poll
watchers i guess they were them
but there were no democrats either and
there was no law enforcement
late in the morning they went early in
the morning they went to uh
the table with the black robe the black
shield and they pulled out the votes
those votes were put there a number of
hours before the table was put there i
think it was
brad you would know it was probably uh
eight hours or seven hours before and
then it was
stuffed with uh votes they weren't in an
official
voter box they were in what looked to be
uh
suitcases or trunks suitcases but
they weren't in uh in voter boxes
uh the minimum number it could be
because we watched it and
they they watched it certified uh
in slow motion instant replay if you can
believe it but had slow motion and it
was magnified many times over
and the minimum it was was 18 000
ballots
all for biden um you had
out-of-state voters uh they voted in uh
georgia but they were from out of state
of 4925.
uh you had absentee ballot sent to
uh their vacant they were absentee
ballots sent to vacant addresses
uh they had nothing on them about
addresses that's 2326.
um and you had dropboxes
uh which is very bad your dropbox
boxes that were picked up we have uh
photographs and
we have uh affidavits for many people i
don't know if you saw the hearings but
but you have dropboxes where the box was
picked up and not delivered for three
days
so all sorts of things could have
happened to that box including
you know putting in the votes that you
wanted so there are many
infractions and the bottom line is
many many times the 11 779
margin that they said we lost by
uh we had vast i mean you have
the state is in turmoil uh over this
and i know you would like to get to the
bottom of it although i saw you on
television today and you said uh
that you found nothing wrong i mean you
know i and i didn't lose the state bread
uh people have have been saying
that it was the highest vote ever there
was no way a lot of the
the political people said that there's
no way they beat me and they beat me
they
they beat me in the poll as you know
every single state
we want every state we want every state
house in the country
we held the senate which is shocking to
people although we'll see what happens
tomorrow or
in a few days uh and we uh we won the
house
but we won every single state house and
we won
congress which was supposed to lose 15
seats and they gained
i think 16 or 17 or something i think
there's now a difference of five
there was supposed to be a difference
substantially more but politicians in
every state but politicians in georgia
have given affidavits and are going to
that
that there was no way they beat me in
the in the election
uh that the people came out in fact they
were expecting to lose
and then they ended up winning by a lot
because of the coattails
and they said there's no way that
they've done many polls prior to the
election there was no way that they won
uh ballots were dropped in massive
numbers
and we're trying to get to those numbers
and we will have them they'll take a
period of time
certified uh but but uh
but they're massive numbers and far
greater than the 11
779
the other thing dead people so dead
people voted
and i think uh the the number is in the
pro
close to 5 000 people and they went to
uh obituaries they went to
all sorts of methods to come up with an
accurate number and a minimum
is close to about 5 000 voters the
bottom line is when you end it all up
and then you start adding you know 300
000 of fake ballots
then the other thing they said is in
fulton county in other areas
and this may or may not seem because
this just came up this morning
that they are burning their ballots that
they are shredding
shredding ballots and removing equipment
they're changing the equipment on the uh
on the dominion machines and you know
that that's not legal and they
supposedly shred and i think they said
300 pounds of
3 000 pounds of balance and that just
came
to us as a report today and
uh you know it's uh it's a very sad
situation
but uh but brad uh if you took
the minimum numbers were where many
times above the 11 000 779
and many of those numbers are certified
or they will be certified but they are
certified
those are numbers that are there that
exist and that uh
that beat the margin uh the margin of
loss
it be they beat it i mean by a lot
and people should be happy to have an
accurate count
instead of an election where there's
turbo i mean there's turmoil in georgia
and other places you're not the only one
i mean we have uh
other states that i believe will be
flipping to us very shortly
and uh but this is this is something
that's uh you know as an example i think
in
in detroit and i think there's a section
a good section of your state actually
which
we're not sure so we're not going to
report it yet but uh
in detroit we had 100 i think it was 139
uh of the people voted
uh that's not too good in pennsylvania
they had uh well over 200 000 more votes
than they had people voting
and uh that was that doesn't play too
well
and the legislature there is which is
republican is
extremely activist and angry but i mean
there were other things also that were
almost as bad as that but but uh
they had as an example in michigan a
trem tremendous number of dead people
that voted i think it was
i think market was 18 000. oh some
some unbelievably high number much
higher than yours you were
you were in the 4 to 5 000 category and
that was checked out
uh laboriously by going through uh
uh versus by going through the obituary
columns in the newspapers
so i guess with all of it being said
brad
it's the bottom line and provisional
ballots uh again
you know you'll have to tell me about
the provisional ballots but we have
uh a lot of people that were complaining
that they weren't able to vote because
they were already voted for and
these are great people and you know they
were
shell-shocked i don't know if you call
that provisional ballots in some states
we had a lot of provisional ballot
uh situations where people were given a
provisional ballot because when they
walked into november 3rd they were
already voting for
voted for so that's it i mean we have uh
many many times the number of uh of
votes necessary to win the state
and we won the state and we want it very
substantially and
easily and we're we're getting we have
much of this is a very cert you know
they're certified
uh far more certified than we need but
we're getting additional numbers
certified too
and we're getting uh pictures of
dropboxes being delivered
and delivered late and delivered three
days later in some cases
plus we have many affidavits to that
effect
so mr president if i if i might be able
to jump in and i'll give brad a chance
uh uh mr secretary uh
one of obviously uh
there is uh there are allegations where
we believe
that not every vote or fair vote
and legal vote was was counted
and that's at odds with the
representation from the secretary of
state's office
what i'm hopeful for is is there some
way that we can
we can find uh some kind of agreement to
to uh to look at this a little bit more
fully
as you know the president mentioned
fulton county
but in some of these areas where there
seems to be
a difference of where
the facts seem to lead and so mr
secretary i was
hopeful that you know in a spirit of
cooperation and compromises or there's
something that
we can at least have a discussion to
look at some of these allegations
to to find a path forward that's less
litigious
well uh i've listened to
what the president has just said
president trump
uh we've had several lawsuits
and we've had to respond in court to the
lawsuits and the contentions
um we don't agree that you have one we
don't
i didn't agree about the 200 000 number
that you mentioned
and i go through that point by point
what we have done
is we gave our state senate about one
and a half hours of of our time going
through the election
issue by issue and then on the state
house
uh the government affairs committee we
gave them about two and a half hours of
our time
going back point by point on all the
issues of
contention and then uh just a few days
ago we met with
our u.s congressman republican
congressman
and we gave them about two hours of our
time uh talking about this past election
uh going back primarily what you're
what you've talked about here focused in
on primarily i believe is the absolute
about process
i don't believe that you're really
questioning the uh
the dominion machines because we did a
hand re-tally
a 100 re-tally of all the
ballots and compared that to what the
machine said and it came up with
virtually the same result
then we did the recount we got virtually
the same results so
i guess we could probably take that off
the table i don't think there's
an issue about that um i think
well not that there's not an issue
but because i we have a big issue with
dominion
and other states and perhaps in yours
but we have we haven't felt we needed to
go there
and just to you know maybe put a little
different spin on what mark is saying
mark meadows um yeah we'd
like to go further but we don't really
need to we have all the votes we need
you know we want to say
if you took these are the most minimal
numbers the numbers that i gave you
those are
numbers that are certified your absentee
ballots sent to vacant
addresses your your out-of-state voters
four thousand nine twenty-five you know
when you add them up
it's many more time it's many times the
eleven thousand
seven seventy-nine number so we could go
through we have not
gone through your dominion so we can't
give them blessing i mean
in other states we think we found
tremendous corruption with dominion
machines but we'll have to see
but but we we only lost
the safe by 11 by by that number 11 000
votes and uh 779 so
with that being said uh with just what
we have
and you know with just what we have
we're giving you minimum
minimum numbers we're doing the most
conservative numbers possible
we're many times many many times above
the
the margin and so we don't really have
to mark i don't think we have to go
through
right because because what's the
difference between
winning the election by two two votes
and winning it by
a half a million votes i think you
probably did win it by half of it
you know one of the things that happened
brad is we have other people coming in
now from alabama
and from south carolina and from other
states
and they're saying it's impossible for
you to have lost georgia
we want you know in alabama we set a
record got the highest vote ever
in uh georgia we set a record
with a massive amount of votes and they
say it's not possible
to have lost georgia and i could tell
you by our rallies i could tell you by
the rally i'm having on monday night the
place they already have lines of people
standing out front waiting
it's just not possible to have lost
georgia it's not possible
when i heard it was close i said there's
no way
but they dropped a lot of votes in there
late at night you know that brett
and that's what we are working on very
very stringently
but regardless of those votes with all
of it being said
we lost by uh 11 essentially 11 000
votes
and we have many more votes already
calculated
and certified too so i just don't know
you know
mark i don't know what's the purpose i i
won't give dominion a pass because we
found too many bad things but
we don't need dominion or anything else
we have we have all we have won this
election
in georgia based on all of this and
there's there's nothing wrong with
with saying that brad you know i mean
having the having a correct
if the people of georgia are angry and
these numbers are going to be repeated
on monday night
along with others that we're going to
have by that time which are much more
substantial even
and the people of georgia are angry the
people of the country are angry
and there's nothing wrong with saying
that you know uh
that you've recalculated because uh
the two thousand two thirty six and
absentee ballots i mean
they're all exact numbers that were were
done by accounting firms law firms etc
and even if you cut them in half cut
them in half and cut them in half again
it's more votes than we need
well mr president the challenge that you
have is the data you have is wrong
uh we we talked to the congressmen
and they were surprised but they uh i
guess there was a person named mr raynor
that came to these meetings and
presented data
and he said that there was dead people i
believe it was upward of five thousand
the actual number
were two two two people that were dead
that voted
and so that's wrong that was two well
plato how do you respond to that i mean
you tell me what
well i i would say mr secretary one of
the things that we have requested
and we did what we said was and if you
look at
this if you read our petition it says
that we took the name and birth years
and you know we had certain information
available to us
we have asked from your office for
records that only you
have and so we said there's a universe
of people who have the same name and
same birth year and died
but we don't have the records that you
have
and one of the things that we have been
suggesting
formally and informally for
weeks now is to try is for you to make
available
to us the records that would be
necessary
even before you do that even before you
do that
and not even including that that's why i
hardly even included that number
although in one state we have a
tremendous amount of dead people so i
don't know i'm sure we do in georgia too
i'm sure we do in georgia too but um
is that we're so far ahead
we're so far ahead of these numbers even
the phony ballots of
uh of ruby freeman known scammer
you know the internet you know what was
trending on the internet
where's ruby because they thought you'd
be in jail
where's ruby um it's uh
it's crazy it's crazy that was the
minimum number is 18 000
for ruby but they think it's probably
about 56 000. but the minimum number is
18 000. on the ruby
freeman night where she ran back in
there when everybody was gone and stuff
she stuffed the ballot boxes let's face
it brad i mean
they did it in slow motion replay
magnified right
she stuffed the ballot boxes they were
stuffed
like nobody's ever seen them stuffed
before so there's a term for it when
it's a machine instead of a ballot box
but
uh she stuffed the machine she stuffed
the ballot each
each ballot went three times they were
showing
here's ballot number one here it is the
second the third time
next ballot i mean look brad this is
we we have a new tape that we're going
to release it's devastating
and by the way that one event that one
event
is much more than the 11 000 votes that
we're talking about
it's uh you know that one event was a
a disaster uh it's it's just you know
but it was
it it was something that uh it can't be
disputed
yet again we have a version that you
haven't seen but it's
uh it's it's uh magnified
it's magnified and you can see every
everything
and she put for some reason they put it
in three times
each ballot and i don't know why but you
know why i don't know why three times
why not five times right
but uh yeah go ahead you're you're
talking about
the state farm video and i think it's
extremely unfortunate
that rudy giuliani or his people they
sliced and diced that video and took it
out of context
so the next day we brought in wsb tv and
we let them
show to see the full run of tape and
what you'll see
the events that transpired are nowhere
near what was pre
was uh projected by where were the poll
watchers brad there were no poll
watchers there there were no democrats
or republicans there was no security
there
it was late in the evening late in the
early in the morning
and there was nobody else in the room
where were the pole watches and
why did they say a water main broke
which they did and which is reported in
in the newspapers they said they left
they ran out because of a water main
break and there was no water main
there was nothing there was no break
there was no water main break
um but where if you if you take out
everything where were the republican
poll watchers even where were the
democrat paul watchers because there
were none
and then you say well they left their
station
you know if you look at the tape and
this was it this was reviewed by
professional
police and and detectives and and other
people
uh when they left in a rush everybody
left in a rush
because of the water main but everybody
left in a rush
these people left their station when
they came back
they didn't go to their station they
went
to the apron wrapped around the table
under which were thousands and thousands
of ballots
in a box that was not as an official or
a sealed box
and then they took those and they went
back to a different station
so if they would have come back they
would have walked
to their station and they would have
continued to work
but they couldn't do the even that
because that's illegal because they had
no
republican poll watchers and remember
her reputation is
is is she's known all over the internet
brett she's known all over it i'm
telling you where's
where's ruby was one of the hot items on
the
ruby they knew her where's ruby uh
so brad you know this there can be no
justification for that
and i i you know i give everybody the
benefit of the doubt
but that was and and brad why did they
put the uh votes in three times you know
they put them in three times mr
president they did not put that
we we can we did an audit of that and
we've proved conclusively that they were
not scanned three times
where was everybody else at that late
time in the morning
where was everybody where were the
republicans where were the security
guards
where were the people that were there
just a little while before
when everyone ran out of the room how
come how come we had no security in the
room
why did they run to the bottom of the
table
why did they run there and just open the
skirt and
rip out the uh and rip out the votes i
mean
brad and they were sitting there i think
for five hours or something like that
the most but they just all happened to
run back and go
you know brad yeah mr president we'll
send you the link from wsb that doesn't
i don't care about a link i don't need
it i have a lot of much better brand i
have a much
better list i will tell you i've seen
the tape
the full tape so has alex we've watched
it
and what we saw and what we've confirmed
in the timing is that they made
everybody leave
we have sworn after david saying that
and then they continue then they begin
to
process ballots and our estimate is
that there are roughly 18 000 ballots we
don't know that
if you know that it was 18 000 ballots
but they used each one
three times well i don't
but nobody can make a case for that
brett nobody i mean look that's
you'd have to be a child to think
anything other than that
just a child i mean you have you never
trump
attorneys how many ballots which is
right
then we had gti certainly investigate
that
we had our this is ryan germany we had
our law enforcement officers
talk to everyone uh who was who was
there after that event came to light
the gbi was with them as well as fbi
agents
well there's there's no way they could
buy then they're incompetent
they're they're either dishonest okay
there's only two answers dishonesty or
incompetence
there's just no way look there's no way
and on the other side
i said too there's no way i mean there's
no way that these things could have been
you know you have all these different
people that that voted but they don't
live in georgia anymore
uh what was that number clay that was a
pretty good number too
yeah the number who had registered out
of state
after they moved from georgia um
and so they they had a date when they
moved from georgia
they registered to vote out of state and
then it's like
4 500 i don't have that right in front
of me and then they came back in and
they voted
and voted no that was a large number
though it was in the 20s
and uh you know the point is going
through
each of those as well and and those
numbers that we got um
that miss mitchell was just saying
they're not accurate everyone we've been
through
are people that lived in georgia moved
to a different state
but then moved back to georgia
legitimately and in many cases
how many people do that i mean they
moved out and then they said how to help
with it i'll move back and you know
it doesn't sound like a very normal like
you mean they moved out
and what they missed it so much that
they wanted to move back in you know
it's like
it's great well and then this is they
moved back in years ago this was not
like something just before the election
so there's something about that data
that it's just not accurate well i don't
know we i mean
all i know is that it is it is certified
and
they moved out of georgia and they voted
it didn't say they moved back in plato
did it
no but i mean we look we're looking at
the voter register
again if you have additional records
we've been asking for that
but you haven't shared any of that with
us you just
keep saying you've been a lot of it you
don't need to be shared i mean to be
honest they should share it
they should share it because you want to
get to an honest election i won this
election by hundreds of thousands of
votes
there's no way i lost georgia there's no
way we won by hundreds of thousands of
votes
i'm just going by small numbers when you
add them up there many times the eleven
thousand but
but i won that state by hundreds of
thousands of us
now do you think it's possible that they
uh shredded
ballots in uh fulton county because
that's what the rumor is
and also that dominion took out machines
uh that dominion is really moving fast
to get rid of their
uh machinery do you know anything about
that
because that's illegal ryan germany no
dominion has not
um moved any machinery out of fulton
county we're having well but no but
but if they move have they have they
moved
the inner parts of the machines and
replaced them with other parts
no is yours ryan
i'm sure i'm sure mr president what
about what about the uh
what about the ballots the shredding of
the ballast
have they been shredding ballots no the
only investigation that we have into
that they have not been shredding any
ballots
there was an issue in cobb county where
they were doing normal
uh you know office shredding getting rid
of old stuff
and we investigated death but this is
stuff from you know past elections
it doesn't pass the smell test though
because we hear they're shredding
thousands and thousands of ballots
uh and now what they're saying oh we're
just cleaning up the office
you know i don't think that plays
mr president the problem you have with
social media they can
people can say you know no this isn't
social media this is trump media
it's not social media it's it's it's
really not it's not social media
i don't care about social but i couldn't
care less social media
is big tech big tech is on your side you
know i don't even know why you have a
side because
you should want to have an accurate
election
and you're a republican we believe but
we do have an accurate election
no i know you don't no no you know you
don't have
you don't have not even close you got
you're off by hundreds of thousands of
votes
and just on the small numbers you're off
on these numbers
and these numbers can't be just well why
won't
okay so you send us into cobb county for
uh signature verification right you send
this into cop county which we didn't
want to go into
uh and you said it would be open to the
public and we could have our
so we had our experts there they weren't
allowed into the room but we didn't want
cobb county we wanted fulton county
and you wouldn't give it to us now why
aren't we doing
signature and why can't it be open to
the public and why can't we have
professionals do it
instead of rank amateurs that will never
find anything and and don't want to find
anything they don't want to find you
know they don't want to find anything
someday you'll tell me the reason why
because i don't understand your
reasoning but someday you'll tell me the
reason why
but why don't you we chose
what sorry go ahead yeah why did
why okay so why did you do cop counting
we didn't even request we requested
fulton county not cobb county
we chose cobb county because that was
the only county where there's been any
evidence submitted
that the signature verification was not
properly done no but but
i told you but we're not we're not
saying that we are
we're the agreed party fulton county
look
stacy in my opinion stacy is as
dishonest as they come
she has outplayed you at every heart at
everything
she got you to sign a totally
unconstitutional
uh agreement which which is a disastrous
agreement
you can't check signatures you can't do
it i can't imagine
you're allowed to do harvesting i guess
in that agree that agreement is a
disaster for
for this country and but she got you
somehow to sign that thing
and she is a she's outsmarted you at
every step and i i hate to imagine
what's gonna happen
on monday or tuesday but it's very scary
to people
you know where the ballots flow in out
of nowhere it's very scary to people
that consent decree is a disaster it's a
disaster
a a very good lawyer who examined it
said they've never seen anything like it
and uh service thing is still illegal in
the state of georgia
and that settlement agreement did not
change that one
it's not a settlement agreement it's a
consent decree it even says consent
decree on it doesn't it
it uses the term consent decree it
doesn't say settlement agreement it's a
consent to create a disaster
it's a settlement agreement what's
what's written on top of it
ryan i don't i don't have it in front of
me but it was not entered by the court
it's not a court order
no it's it's called but ryan it's called
the consent decree is that right on the
paper is that right
i don't i i i don't i don't believe so
but i don't have it in front of me
okay whatever it's a disaster it's a
disaster
uh look here's the problem we can go
through
signature verification and we'll find
hundreds of thousands of signatures if
you let us do it
and the only way you can do it as you
know is to go to the past
but you didn't do that in cobb county
you just looked at one page compared to
another
the only way you can do a signature
verification is go from
the one that signed it into in
november whatever recently and compare
compared to two years ago
four years ago six years ago you know or
or even
one and you'll find that you have many
different signatures
but in in uh fulton
where they dump to ballots you will find
that you have many that aren't even
signed
and you have many that are forgeries
okay
you know that you know that you have no
doubt about that
and you will find you will be at 11
000 779 within minutes
because fulton county is totally corrupt
and so is she totally corrupt
and they're going around
playing you and laughing at you behind
your back brad
whether you know it or not they're
laughing at you
and you've taken a state that's a
republican state
and you've made it almost impossible for
a republican to win
because of cheating because they cheated
like nobody's ever cheated before
and i don't care how long it takes me
you know we're going to have other
states coming forward pretty good
but i won't this is never given this is
we have some incredible talent
said they've never seen anything now the
problem is they need more time for the
big numbers but they are very
substantial numbers
but and i think you're going to find
that they uh by the way
a little information i think you're
going gonna find that they are shredding
ballots
because they have to get rid of the
ballots because the ballots are unsigned
the ballots are
are corrupt
and they're brand new and they don't
have seals and there's a whole thing
with the ballots but
the ballots are corrupt and you're going
to find that they are
which is totally illegal it's it's it's
more illegal for you than it is for them
because you know what they did and
you're not reporting it that's a
you know that's a criminal that's a
criminal offense
and and you know you can't let that
happen that's that's a big risk
to you and to ryan your lawyers that's a
big risk
but they are shredding ballots in my
opinion
based on what i've heard and they are
removing machinery
uh and they're moving it as fast as they
can
both of which are criminal fines and you
can't let it happen and you are letting
it happen or you know i mean
i'm notifying you that you're letting it
happen
so look all i want to do is this i just
want to find
uh 11 780
votes which is one more that we have
because we won the state and flipping
the state
is a great testament to our country
because
you know and there's this there's just
it's a testament that they can admit to
a mistake or whatever you want to call
it if it was a mistake i don't know
a lot of people think it wasn't a
mistake it was much more
uh criminal than that but it's a big
problem in georgia and it's it's not a
problem that's going away
i mean you know it's not a problem
that's going away
and and we got it this is ryan we're
looking into every one of those things
that that you mentioned
um but if you find them you've got to
say it right
there right and then i'm going
to tell you what we are seeing go ahead
good we
what we're saying is not at all
what you're describing right these are
investigators from our office these are
investigators from
uh gbi um and they're looking and
they're good
and that's not what they're seeing and
we'll keep we'll we'll keep looking
we'll keep looking at all these things
well you better check on the ballots
because they are shredding ballots bro
i'm just telling you ryan they're
shredding ballots
and uh you should look at that very
carefully because that's so illegal
you know you may not even believe it
because it's so bad but but
they're shredding ballots because they
think we're going to eventually get
there because we'll eventually get into
fulton
you know it's in my opinion it's my
opinion it's never too late
so oh so oh little double uh
so um so that's the story
fellas i look we need only 11 000 votes
we have far
more than that as it stands now we'll
have
more and more uh and
do you have provisional ballots at all
uh brad
provisional ballots provisional ballots
are
allowed you know by state law sure but
you have them i mean are they counted or
did you just hold them back because they
you know in other words how many
provisional ballots do you have in the
state
we'll get you that number because uh
most of them are made out to the name
trump
because these are people that were
scammed when they came in
and we have thousands of people that
have testified or that want to testify
when they came in they were proudly
going to vote on november 3rd
and they were told i'm sorry you've
already been voted for
you've already voted the women men
started screaming no i proudly voted
till november third they said i'm sorry
but you already been voted for and you
have a ballot
and these people are beside themselves
so they went out and they filled in a
provisional ballot
putting the name trump on it and what
about that batch of military ballots
that came in and even though i won the
military by a lot
it was a hundred percent trump do you
know i mean 100
biden do you know about that a large
group of ballots came in i think it was
the fulton county
and they just happened to be a hundred
percent for trump even though
even though trump won the military by a
lot
you know a tremendous amount but these
ballots were 100
forbidden and you know about that a very
substantial number came in
all for bud
does anybody know about it i know about
it but we were never
well okay clean away i'm not asking you
tolena honestly
i'm asking i'm asking brad you know
about the military ballots that we have
confirmed now do you know about the
military ballots that came in that were
uh a hundred percent i mean a hundred
percent for biden do you know about that
and i don't know about that i do know
that um we have
when when military ballots come in it's
not just military it's also military and
overseas citizens the military
part of that does generally go
republican the overseas citizen part of
it
generally goes very democrat no but this
was
you're next yeah that's okay but i get i
got like 78
in the military these ballots were all
for this this they were
they didn't tell me overseas could be
overseas too but i get votes overseas
too ryan you know in all fairness
no they came in a large batch came in
and it was
quote uh 100 for biden
and that is criminal you know that's
criminal
okay that's another criminal that's
another of the many criminal events
many criminal events here um
i don't know look brad i gotta get i
have to find
twelve thousand votes and i have them
times
a lot and therefore i won the state
that's before we go to the next step
which is in the process of right now
you know and i watched you this morning
and you said
uh well there was no criminality but i i
mean all of this stuff is
is very dangerous stuff when you talk
about no criminality i think it's very
dangerous
for you to say that i just i just don't
know why
you don't want to have the votes counted
as they are like even you when you went
and did that check and i was surprised
because you know i didn't consider
the check and we found a few thousand
votes that were
against me i was actually surprised
because the way that check was done
all you you're doing is we you know
recertifying
existing votes and you know
you were given votes and you just
counted them up and you still found
three thousand that were bad
that was sort of surprising that came
down three or five
i don't know a lot it was still a lot of
votes but but
you have to go back to check from past
years
with respect to uh signatures
and if you check with fulton county
you'll have hundreds of thousands
because they dumped
ballots into fulton county and the other
county next to it
so what so what are we going to do here
folks i only need 11 000 votes
fellas i need 11 000 votes give me a
break
uh you know we have that in spades
already
or we can keep it going but that's not
fair to the voters of georgia because
they're going to see what happened
and they're going to see what happened i
mean i'll
i'll take on anybody you want with
regard to ruby freeman and her lovely
daughter
a very lovely young lady i'm sure but
ruby friedman i i will take freeman
i will take on anybody you want and the
the minimum
there were 18 000 ballots but they used
them three times so that's
you know a lot of votes uh
and that one event and they were all
dividing by the way that's the other
thing we didn't say
you know the uh ruby friedman one thing
i forgot to say which was the most
important
you know that every single ballot she
did went to biden you know that right
do you know that by the way brett
every single ballot that she did through
the machine
at uh early early in the morning
went to biden did you know that ryan
that's not accurate mr president huh
what is accurate
the numbers that we are showing are
accurate
um no about ruby freeman about about
early in the morning ryan when the woman
took the you know when the whole gang
took the stuff out of the
from under the table right do you know
that though do you know who those
ballots you know who they were made out
to do you know who they were voting for
no not specifically did you ever check
we we we did what i described the orange
no no no did you ever check the ballots
that were scammed by ruby freeman known
a known uh political operative uh
balloter did you ever check who those
votes were for
we've looked into that situation that
you described no they were 100
forbidden
100 percent there wasn't a trump vote in
the whole group
why don't you want to find this right
what's wrong with you i heard that i
heard
your lawyer is very difficult actually
but i'm sure you're a good lawyer
you have a nice last name but but i'm
just curious
why wouldn't why why do you keep
fighting this thing
it just doesn't make sense we're way
over the
17779 right
we're way over that number and
just if you took just ruby freeman
we're over that number by five five or
six times when you multiply it out times
three
uh and every single ballot went to
biden and
and you didn't know that but now you
know it
so so tell me brad what are we going to
do
we won the election and it's not fair to
take it away from us like this
and it's going to be very costly in many
ways
and i think you have to say that you're
going to re-examine it and
you can re-examine it but but re-examine
it with people that
want to find answers not people that
don't want to find answers
for instance i'm hearing ryan and he's
probably
i'm sure a great lawyer and everything
but he's making statements about
those ballots that he doesn't know but
he's making him with such
he he did make him with surety but now i
think he's less sure because the answer
is they all went to biden
and that alone wins us the election
by a lot you know
mr president you have people that submit
information
and we have our people that submit
information
and then it comes before the court and
the court then has to make a
determination
we have to stand by our numbers we
believe our numbers are right
why do you say that though i don't know
i mean sure we can play this game with
the courts
but why do you say that first of all
they don't even assign us a judge
they don't even assign us a judge uh
but why wouldn't you if hey brad
why wouldn't you want to check out ruby
freeman
and why wouldn't you want to say hey if
if in fact
president trump is right about that then
he wins the state of georgia just that
one incident alone without going through
hundreds of thousands of drop ballots
you just say you stick by you i mean
i've been watching you for
you know you don't care about anything
your numbers are right
but your numbers aren't right they're
really wrong and they're really wrong
brad
and i know this phone call's going
nowhere other than
other than ultimately you know
look ultimately i win okay because mr
secretary
you guys are so wrong and you've treated
this you've treated the population of
georgia so badly
you between you and your governor who
wouldn't who was down at 21
he was down 21 points and like a schmuck
i
endorsed him and got he got elected but
uh
i will tell you he's a disaster and
he'll never
i can't imagine the people are so angry
in georgia i can't imagine
he's ever getting elected again i'll
tell you that much right now
but but why wouldn't you want to find
the right answer brad instead of
keep saying that the numbers are right
because those numbers are so wrong
mr secretary mr president i mean one of
the things that
we have been alex can talk about this
we've talked about it
and i don't know whether the information
has been conveyed to
your office but i think what the
president's saying
what we've been trying to do is to say
look the court is not
acting on our petition they haven't even
assigned a judge
but the people of georgia and the people
of america have a right to know
the answers and you have data and
records that we don't have access to
and you keep telling us and making
public statements
that you've investigated this and you
know nothing to see here
but we don't know about that all we know
is what you tell us
what i don't understand is why it
wouldn't be in everyone's best interest
to um to try to
get to the bottom compare the numbers
you know if you say
because if to try to be able to get to
the truth and that we because
we don't have any way of confirming
what you're telling us you tell us that
you've had an investigation of the state
farm arena
i i don't have any report i've never
seen a reported investigation i don't
know what that is
i've been pretty involved in this i
don't know and that's just
one of like 25 categories
and it doesn't even and and as i as the
president said we haven't even
gotten into the dominion issue that's
not part of our case it's not part of
we we just didn't feel as though we had
any way
to be able to develop no we do have a
way but i don't want to get into it
have we found a way in other states
later excuse me but we don't need it
because we're only down 11 000 votes so
we don't even need it
i personally think they're corrupt as
hell but we don't need that
because all we have to do later is find
11 000 plus votes
so we don't need that i'm not looking to
to shake up the whole world we want
georgia easily
we want to buy hundreds of thousands of
votes but if you go by
basic simple numbers we want it easily
easily
so we're not giving uh dominion a pass
on the record
right exactly but we just don't you know
we don't need dominion because we have
so many other votes
that we don't need to prove it any more
than we already have
mr president this is kurt hillberg if i
might
come back here for a moment um ryan uh i
would like to suggest
that just four categories that have
already been mentioned by the president
uh that have actually hard numbers of 24
149 votes that were counted illegally
that in and of itself is sufficient to
change the results or place the outcome
in doubt
um we would like to just sit down with
your office and we can do it through
purposes of compromise compromising
settlement just like this phone call
just to deal with that limited category
of votes
and if you were able to establish that
our numbers are not accurate
then fine however we believe that they
are accurate we've had
now three to four separate experts look
at these numbers
these numbers are based upon the usb and
certified certified accountants looked
at them
correct and this is just based on usps
data and your own secretary of state
data
so that's what we would entreat and ask
you to do to sit down with us
in a compromise and settlements you know
proceeding and actually go through the
registered voter ids and the
registrations
and if you can convince us that that 24
149 is inaccurate then fine
but we we tend to believe that that is
you know obviously more than 11
779 that's sufficient to change the
results entirely in and of itself so
what would you say to that mr germany
kurt um i'm happy to
i'll give with our lawyers and we'll set
that up um
that number is not accurate and i think
we can show you for all the ones we've
looked at
uh why it's not uh and so if that
that would be helpful i'm happy to keep
with our lawyers and set that up with
you guys
well let me kurt you think that is an
accurate number
that was based on the information given
to you by the secretary of state's
department right
that that is correct that that
information is the minimum most
conservative data
based upon the usps data and the
secretary of state's office data
that has been made publicly available we
do not have the internal numbers from
the secretary of state
yet we have asked for it six times i've
sent a letter over to mr anolewitz
several times uh requesting this
information and it's been rebuffed every
single time so
it stands to reason that if the
information is not worth company
forthcoming there's something to hide
that's the problem that we have
well that's not the case there are
things that that you guys are
are entitled to get and there's things
that under law we are not allowed
to give out well you have to well under
law you're not allowed to give
faulty election results okay you're not
allowed to do that and that's what
you've done
this is a faulty election result and
honestly
this should go very fast you should meet
tomorrow because you have a big election
election coming up and because of what
you've done to the president you know
the people of uh
georgia know that this was a scam and
because of what you've done to the
president a lot of people aren't going
out to vote
and a lot of republicans are going to
vote negative because they hate what you
did to the president
okay they hate him and they're going to
vote and if you would be
respected if really respected if this
thing could be straightened out
before the election you have a big
election coming up on tuesday
and therefore i think that it really is
important that you meet tomorrow and
work out on these numbers
because i know brad that if if you think
we're right i think you're going to say
and and i'm not looking to blame anybody
i'm not blaming i'm just saying that
you know you know under new counts and
under new uh
views of of the election results we won
the election
it's all you know it's very simple we
won the election
as the governor of major states and the
surrounding states said
there is no way you lost georgia as the
georgia politicians
say there is no way you lost georgia
nobody everyone knows i want to buy
hundreds of thousands of votes
but i'll tell you it's going to have a
big impact on tuesday if you guys don't
get this thing straightened out fast
well mr president this is mark let me uh
let me just it sounds like we've got
uh two different sides agreeing that
we can look at those those areas and
and i assume that we can do that within
the next 24
to 48 hours to go ahead and get that
reconciled so that we can look at the
two claims
and making sure that we get the access
to the secretary of state's data
to either validate or invalidate the
claims that have been made is that
correct
so that's that's not what i said um i'm
happy to you know sit down with or have
our lawyers sit down with curtin
and and the lawyers on on that side and
explain to him hey here's
based on what we've looked at so far
here's how we know
this is wrong this is wrong this is
wrong this is wrong this is wrong
what you're saying ryan hold on let me
let me make sure so what you're saying
is you really don't want to give access
to the data
you just want to make another case on
why
the lawsuit is wrong i don't think we
i don't think we can give access to data
that's protected by law
but we can sit down with them and say
you're allowed to have a phony election
right no sir
what are you what are you going to do
the signature counts on when are you
going to do signature verification on
fulton county which you said you were
going to do and now all of a sudden
you're not doing it when are you doing
that
mr president we've announced to get to
this issue of the
personal information and privacy issue
um
is it possible that the secretary of
state could deputize the lawyers
for the president so that we could
access that information that private
information without you having any kind
of violation
well i don't want to know who it is you
guys can do it very confidentially you
can sign a confidentiality agreement
that's okay i don't need to know names
all right but we got the information on
this stuff that we're talking about
we got all that information from the
secretary of state
yeah so let me let me recommend uh ryan
if you and kurt will get together and
you know when we get off of this phone
call if you could get together
and work out uh a plan to
to address uh some of what we've we've
got with your attorneys
where we can we can actually look at the
data
uh uh for example uh mr secretary i i
can tell you you said there was only two
dead people that would vote uh i i can
promise you there are more than that uh
and that may be what your investigation
shows but i can promise you there are
more than that
but at the same time i think it's
important that we go ahead and move
expeditiously to try to do this and
resolve it as quickly as we possibly can
and uh and if that's the good next step
hopefully we can we can uh
finish this phone call and go ahead and
agree that the two of you will get
together immediately
but why don't my lawyer show you where
you got the information it'll show the
secretary of state
and you don't even have to look at any
names we don't want names we don't care
but we got that information from you
and stacy abrams is laughing about you
know she's going around saying these
guys are dumber than a rock
what she's done to this party is
unbelievable i tell you
and i only ran against her once and that
was with a guy named brian
kemp and i beat her and if i didn't run
brian wouldn't have had even a shot
either in the general or in the primary
he was dead dead at a door nail he never
thought he had a shot at either one of
them
what a schmuck i was but that's the way
it is
that's the way it is uh i would like you
to
uh uh for the attorneys or i'd like you
to
perhaps meet with ryan ideally tomorrow
because i think we should come to a
resolution of this before the election
otherwise you could have
you're going to have people just not
voting they don't want to vote they
hate the state they hate the governor
and they hate the secretary of state
i will tell you that right now and the
only people that like you are people
that will never vote
for you you know that brad right they
like you you know
they like you they can't believe what
they found they want more people like
you
so look uh can you get together tomorrow
and brad we just want the truth
it's simple and uh
and everyone's gonna look very good if
the truth comes out it's okay it takes a
little while but
let the truth come out and the truth the
real truth is i won by 400 000 votes at
least
that's the real truth but we don't need
400 000 votes we need
less than 2 000 votes and
are you guys able to meet tomorrow ryan
um i'll get with chris the lawyer who's
representing us
in the case uh and see when he can get
together with kurt
all right ryan will be in touch with
that the other attorney on this call
mr meadows thank you president trump for
your time
okay thank you brad thank you ryan thank
you thank you everybody
thank you thank you thank you very much
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