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Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OLIVER HERRING: I like things simple.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I like to boil things down to an essence.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Might have something to do with the fact \Nthat
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,English is a foreign language to me and \Nthat I have to...
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And as I learned English I only was able \Nto express myself in,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in crude ways, but that forced me to make\Nmy point clear.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The reason I started to knit was,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was in reaction to the suicide of \Nsomeone I very much admired
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as an artist.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well my work up to that point was very \Ncolorful and expressionistic,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I from...really one, one day to the next
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,took all color out of my work
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and all of that expressiveness
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and really subjected myself to this\Nrigorous, monotonous discipline.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It wasn't a conceptual decision,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was an emotional decision.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Knitting can be very meditative and uh,\Nmonotonous.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But exactly that quality gives you time \Nand that time was actually of,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that was the crux of the matter.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I never made more than one kind of stitch.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I never got into patterning and any of \Nthis
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it was never about knitting, it \Nwas about performance.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Going through a certain motion \Nrepetitively, in this case, for ten years.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People only witnessed the,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the outcome of the, of the performance,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the legacy of that time spent.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And its sculpture was um,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something that kept me so isolated for \Nso long in the studio.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Once I committed myself to a piece I had \Nto follow it through
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which could easily take two, three months.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So once I started I was locked into an \Nidea.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the only thing that could really move\Nwas my mind.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I felt that these early video pieces\Nwere a way
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for me to express what was going on in my\Nmind.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of my first videos, EXIT,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,starts out with me sitting in the chair \Nthat I usually knit in
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then it just turns into this flight of\Nfancy.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Certain fantasies that I dreamt about \Nwhile I was knitting.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The videos were a way for me to,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be flamboyant.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In my first few videos I am in it because \NI try,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had to try stuff out.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But eventually I replaced myself with \Nother people.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My thing is sort of to bring mostly \Nstrangers into the studio,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not always, very often it's friends too.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But even with my friends,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there is this sort of need there to do \Nsomething out of the ordinary.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't think of the people I work with as\Nmodels or as actors.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're not.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are people who are willing to \Nsacrifice their time.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well in the end these things are \Ncollaborations.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The two people that are here today \Nare my two old reliables.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I really got to know them very well \Nthrough making videos.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,HERRING: Now.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Actually that didn't work.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well I like this.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh that was just swell.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,HERRING: I don't care too much about the\Nmedium.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't even care so much about the \Nobject.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I really care about the pro... the \Nprocess.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,HERRING: Try and get as much in your face\Nas possible.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh this is red.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's amazing, keep going,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's a beauty.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Close your eyes for a second.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,HERRING: You know these guys don't \Nreact in the way they would
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ordinarily react to a situation where \Nthey meet a stranger.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's because of, of, of the circumstances
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the eccentricity of it that it\Nbecomes,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you, you, you sort of short-cut a lot of\Nformality
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it becomes very, very soon, informal.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't just mean the fact that these \Nguys spit food dye for hours.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is a very intimate experience
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it's unusual and because you have\Nto
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really give a part of yourself to do it.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's, it's um, it's exhausting.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,While these two image formally or in terms\Nof the process are similar,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the emphasis is very different.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I usually wait for a moment that is,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that brings out some kind of \Nvulnerability and it usually ha...
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I, I never know when it happens,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it just happens at some point
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there's this very personal connection \Nthere that happens
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's what I'm after.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's this personal connection with \Nsomebody,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some stranger in a way.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The focus when I work with a person \Nfor one of these sculptures
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is a very quiet focus,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is much harder to, to endure,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,especially when you do this on an ongoing \Nbasis for two or three months.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think maybe the intimacy of the process
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is somewhat disturbing to me
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because um, it's not the kind of intimacy\Nthat I generate when we,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when, when we make a video,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where the focus is on fun and action.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The focus when, when I work with a person
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for one of these
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sculptures is a very quiet focus.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hmm, I'm trying to match the image
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the actual place on her body.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here is um, I place this part
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I matched it against her body.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,With this figure over there I didn't have \Nthat luxury.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He came in um, usually at night because \Nhe had to work during the day.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Throughout the process when I attached \Nthe photographs
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he wasn't here at all
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I just sort of had to imagine what \Nit would look like.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I carved the structure and then I just \Ntook it from there
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,based on some photographs that I had.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,THE SUM AND ITS PARTS came about
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after an accident where I slipped \Na disk in my neck
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I could literally not move one of my \Narms.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I felt the only thing I could do was work \Nwith one person
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because that seemed manageable
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,since I really couldn't maneuver around.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(MUSIC)
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,HERRING: Was actually quite happy that
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the conditions under which I had to work
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were radically altered because it made me \Nthink differently about what I could do.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One guy who I had worked with in a,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a video before, every week,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,two or three times we met over the course \Nof three months.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was really an extended project.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we just improvised.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I, I decided that it might be interesting \Nto cut his hair,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for him to shave his hair.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And um, of course he didn't want to do \Nthat.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So a lot of that time it was about me \Ntrying to convince him
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that he would look much better without\Nhair.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then in the end he uh, he, he agreed.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,HERRING: Most people are much more \Nunusual
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and complicated and eccentric
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and playful and creative,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then they have the time to express.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Play.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a thing that we put on hold
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because we get distracted by so many other\Nthings.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have to make money.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have to pay the bills.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We grow up.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And these roles that we play, they're not \Nreal.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But after a while they become real, they \Nbecome us.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Play is, is sort of a reminder of what \Nthat was like to be a kid.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And um, we in the end never lose that,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it's always there.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean you carry your past inside of you,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's clear, so why should it ever\Ndisappear?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think whether it's video or performance\Nor uh,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these sculptures,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is really the learning experience of\Nmaking these things
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that give me in my life, meaning.