WEBVTT 00:01:24.910 --> 00:01:30.791 Peace! Happiness! Smile! 00:01:30.958 --> 00:01:35.838 1, 234! Smile! More teeth! 00:01:36.004 --> 00:01:41.760 Don't let the camera catch you looking bad! 00:01:41.927 --> 00:01:47.557 Smile! 1, 2, 3, 4! 00:01:47.724 --> 00:01:50.852 Real joy, not just pleasure! 00:01:51.061 --> 00:01:57.776 And natural beauty! This isn’t fake! 00:01:57.984 --> 00:02:02.989 Okay, peace! Peace! Peace! 00:04:15.785 --> 00:04:20.706 I'm looking for an actress... 00:04:20.873 --> 00:04:23.751 ...an actress to play a mother. 00:04:23.918 --> 00:04:26.045 Old ladies like you... 00:04:26.253 --> 00:04:29.548 When you see movie stars on TV- 00:04:29.715 --> 00:04:33.510 - you must dream of becoming one. 00:04:33.677 --> 00:04:36.889 - No, I don't. - Why not? 00:04:37.097 --> 00:04:40.184 - You have nothing else to do. - No, I'm busy. 00:04:40.392 --> 00:04:47.024 These women won't agree to play communists like this. 00:04:47.232 --> 00:04:54.406 It might work if we invite them to your house first... 00:04:54.614 --> 00:04:58.201 But if we ask them right here, they'll be afraid. 00:04:58.410 --> 00:05:01.830 People might think they really are communists. 00:05:01.997 --> 00:05:07.043 I disagree... In my neighborhood everybody would do it. 00:05:07.252 --> 00:05:10.463 Then let's go there instead. It's impossible here. 00:05:10.672 --> 00:05:14.801 This whole area was communist. 00:05:18.096 --> 00:05:22.850 We're looking for women with children - 00:05:23.059 --> 00:05:27.271 -to play communist wives. 00:05:27.438 --> 00:05:32.568 You try to prevent us from burning down your house. 00:05:32.777 --> 00:05:35.154 But in the end we burn it down. 00:05:35.362 --> 00:05:40.367 'Mother, they burned our house down!' 00:05:48.000 --> 00:05:50.419 Like that. 00:05:50.627 --> 00:05:55.048 And don't worry if you touch her breasts. You're still a kid. 00:05:55.257 --> 00:05:57.426 Ready? 00:06:00.887 --> 00:06:02.806 Kill them! 00:06:03.014 --> 00:06:04.849 No! 00:06:05.058 --> 00:06:09.604 - Destroy their house! - No, please don't! 00:06:11.064 --> 00:06:14.692 Burn it! 00:06:14.901 --> 00:06:16.236 Kill! 00:06:16.444 --> 00:06:21.324 Cry! Weep! 00:06:21.532 --> 00:06:24.452 Don't burn my house. 00:06:24.660 --> 00:06:30.333 Keep crying! 00:06:30.541 --> 00:06:33.294 Okay cut, cut! 00:06:41.594 --> 00:06:46.015 Whether this ends up on the big screen - 00:06:46.223 --> 00:06:52.187 - or only on TV it doesn't matter. 00:06:52.354 --> 00:06:57.442 - But we have to show... - That this is the history! 00:06:57.693 --> 00:07:01.613 This is who we are! 00:07:01.822 --> 00:07:05.325 So in the future people will remember! 00:07:05.534 --> 00:07:08.995 It doesn't have to be a big film - 00:07:09.162 --> 00:07:15.376 - like Rank Organization, Paramount Pictures, MGM... 00:07:15.585 --> 00:07:22.884 We, in our simple way step by step - 00:07:23.092 --> 00:07:27.346 - will tell the story- 00:07:27.513 --> 00:07:32.226 - of what we did when we were young! 00:07:33.603 --> 00:07:37.606 Excuse me... 00:07:43.779 --> 00:07:50.035 There's many ghosts here, because many people were killed here. 00:07:50.244 --> 00:07:54.498 - They died unnatural deaths. - Unnatural deaths. 00:07:54.706 --> 00:07:57.417 They arrived perfectly healthy. 00:07:57.626 --> 00:08:01.588 When they got here they were beaten up... and died. 00:08:01.755 --> 00:08:07.844 At first, we beat them to death... But there was too much blood. 00:08:08.053 --> 00:08:12.515 There was so much blood here... 00:08:13.558 --> 00:08:19.481 So when we cleaned it up, it smelled awful. 00:08:19.689 --> 00:08:25.278 To avoid the blood, I used this system. 00:08:25.486 --> 00:08:28.656 Can I show you? 00:08:35.871 --> 00:08:38.457 Sit there. 00:08:39.417 --> 00:08:42.211 Face that way. 00:08:42.419 --> 00:08:45.631 We have to re-enact this properly. 00:08:51.887 --> 00:08:53.931 This is how to do it - 00:08:54.139 --> 00:08:59.228 - without too much blood. 00:09:00.896 --> 00:09:08.904 I've tried to forget all this with good music... Dancing... 00:09:10.030 --> 00:09:11.698 Feeling happy.. 00:09:11.865 --> 00:09:15.618 A little alcohol... 00:09:15.785 --> 00:09:18.955 A little marijuana... 00:09:19.164 --> 00:09:23.960 A little... what do you call it? Ecstasy.. 00:09:24.168 --> 00:09:29.132 Once I'd get drunk, I'd 'fly' and feel happy. 00:09:29.340 --> 00:09:32.135 Cha cha. 00:09:50.361 --> 00:09:52.738 He's a happy man. 00:10:25.061 --> 00:10:27.438 Anwar Congo, from the paramilitary group. 00:10:27.647 --> 00:10:31.734 You've heard of him? From the Medan Cinema. 00:10:31.943 --> 00:10:36.614 Now that I'm governor, I stab him if he threatens me. 00:10:43.204 --> 00:10:46.040 Everyone was scared of him. 00:10:46.248 --> 00:10:47.917 The only one not scared was me- 00:10:48.125 --> 00:10:51.921 - because he looked after me when I was a kid. 00:10:52.129 --> 00:10:55.924 When I was in high school - 00:10:56.133 --> 00:10:59.344 - I was the only one not scared of him - 00:10:59.553 --> 00:11:04.266 - because I didn't think of him as a big gangster. 00:11:04.433 --> 00:11:07.936 But when people heard his name, they'd be terrified. 00:11:08.103 --> 00:11:12.649 - Why? - Because he's one of the killers. 00:11:12.858 --> 00:11:17.571 Now, the communists' children are starting to speak out - 00:11:17.779 --> 00:11:21.366 - trying to reverse the history. 00:11:21.574 --> 00:11:26.079 One of them wrote, 'I’m Proud to be the Child of a Communist.' 00:11:26.287 --> 00:11:29.374 But this won't last long - 00:11:29.541 --> 00:11:32.168 - because the people won't accept it. 00:11:32.377 --> 00:11:35.963 Communism will never be accepted here, because - 00:11:36.172 --> 00:11:42.845 - we have so many gangsters, and that's a good thing. 00:11:43.054 --> 00:11:48.225 The word 'gangster' comes from English. 'Free men'. 00:11:48.392 --> 00:11:52.438 Thugs want freedom to do things, even if they're wrong... 00:11:52.646 --> 00:11:57.318 But if we know how to work with them - 00:11:57.526 --> 00:12:00.988 - all we have to do is direct them. 00:12:13.917 --> 00:12:19.422 We were gangsters. We didn't have real jobs. 00:12:19.589 --> 00:12:26.596 So we'd do anything for money.. 00:12:26.805 --> 00:12:30.517 ...just to buy nice clothes. 00:12:31.559 --> 00:12:33.853 This was the cinema - 00:12:34.020 --> 00:12:36.856 - where I worked. 00:12:37.023 --> 00:12:41.986 I'd stand here, scalping tickets and showing off. 00:12:42.153 --> 00:12:45.656 When films were popular, we'd scalp tickets. 00:12:45.823 --> 00:12:52.455 But when the communists were strong - 00:12:52.621 --> 00:12:58.836 - they demanded a ban on American films. 00:12:59.044 --> 00:13:05.092 They wanted fewer American films. 00:13:05.259 --> 00:13:11.640 - So we gangsters made less money. - Because there was no audience. 00:13:11.848 --> 00:13:16.269 Hollywood films were popular. 00:13:16.478 --> 00:13:21.566 Without them the gangsters didn't make as much money. 00:13:21.775 --> 00:13:25.737 As we say: 'Dinner missed the belly' 00:13:27.947 --> 00:13:33.077 When we'd watch happy movies, like Elvis movies - 00:13:33.286 --> 00:13:39.459 - we'd leave the cinema smiling, dancing to the music. 00:13:40.501 --> 00:13:43.546 Our hands... 00:13:44.922 --> 00:13:49.468 Still dancing... 00:13:49.677 --> 00:13:52.596 Still in the mood of the film... 00:13:53.806 --> 00:13:58.853 if girls passed, we'd whistle. 00:13:59.019 --> 00:14:03.983 We loved it. We didn't care what people thought. 00:14:04.191 --> 00:14:10.906 Here was the paramilitary office, where I always killed people. 00:14:11.115 --> 00:14:15.744 I'd see the guy being interrogated... 00:14:15.911 --> 00:14:21.208 I'd give him a cigarette. I'd still be dancing, laughing... 00:14:21.416 --> 00:14:26.463 it was like we were killing... 00:14:26.713 --> 00:14:28.548 ...happily! 00:14:51.946 --> 00:14:55.866 When my mom was alive - 00:14:56.075 --> 00:15:02.623 - sometimes, when I was screaming... 00:15:03.916 --> 00:15:09.505 ...my mom would rush in and wake me up. 00:15:09.755 --> 00:15:13.092 'Before you sleep, wash your feet!' 00:15:13.258 --> 00:15:18.055 'Pray properly Don't just sleep.' 00:15:18.931 --> 00:15:26.897 I know my bad dreams come from what I did... 00:15:27.647 --> 00:15:31.943 ...killing people who didn't want to die. 00:15:32.110 --> 00:15:34.195 I forced them to die. 00:15:38.283 --> 00:15:44.789 Why are you daydreaming, my love? 00:15:44.998 --> 00:15:50.128 Are you so uncertain? 00:16:05.935 --> 00:16:11.774 You're a star now! 00:16:11.940 --> 00:16:15.027 Amazing! 00:16:15.235 --> 00:16:17.196 This guy's a star! 00:16:21.491 --> 00:16:23.660 Joshua, film the photos! 00:16:23.869 --> 00:16:28.832 That's the president's father-in-law, Sarwo Edhie. 00:16:29.040 --> 00:16:33.253 - I'll introduce them one-by-one. - That’s the president. 00:16:33.420 --> 00:16:37.215 That's him with the president. 00:16:37.424 --> 00:16:43.972 Ibrahim Sinik is famous all across the country! 00:16:44.139 --> 00:16:50.436 We gangsters keep him well protected. 00:16:50.645 --> 00:16:53.648 We wish him a long, prosperous life. 00:16:53.815 --> 00:16:56.526 But don't forget to share your money! 00:16:56.692 --> 00:16:59.111 Ask Joshua for money. 00:16:59.320 --> 00:17:01.906 After all, he’s from London! 00:17:02.114 --> 00:17:05.742 You interrogated communists in your newsroom? 00:17:05.951 --> 00:17:09.997 He was always gathering information. 00:17:10.205 --> 00:17:15.002 When he had the information - 00:17:15.210 --> 00:17:20.465 - he'd say: 'Guilty!' and we'd take them away and kill them. 00:17:23.260 --> 00:17:26.555 When you interrogated communists in your office - 00:17:26.762 --> 00:17:30.684 - what questions did you ask? 00:17:30.892 --> 00:17:34.437 Whatever we asked, we'd change their answers - 00:17:34.646 --> 00:17:37.399 - to make them look bad. 00:17:37.607 --> 00:17:40.443 As a newspaper man - 00:17:40.652 --> 00:17:46.658 - my job was to make the public hate them. 00:17:46.866 --> 00:17:50.536 And your relationship with the army? 00:17:50.745 --> 00:17:54.374 - The army. - We had no formal relationship. 00:17:54.540 --> 00:17:58.169 But after we captured the communist youth - 00:17:58.336 --> 00:18:01.672 - and beat them to a pulp - 00:18:01.881 --> 00:18:05.259 - we gave them to the army but the army wouldn't take them. 00:18:05.468 --> 00:18:09.096 They said, 'Just dump them in the river.' 00:18:10.264 --> 00:18:13.726 Do you remember exactly what the army said? 00:18:13.893 --> 00:18:16.812 I didn't bring the victims. I had men for that. 00:18:16.979 --> 00:18:21.150 Why would I do such grunt work? Why would I kill people? 00:18:21.358 --> 00:18:25.654 I didn't have to! One wink from me and they're dead! 00:19:03.441 --> 00:19:08.571 Pancasila Youth! 00:19:20.332 --> 00:19:23.419 How you doing, Anwar? 00:19:24.086 --> 00:19:27.131 This is the real Anwar Congo! 00:19:33.804 --> 00:19:39.893 Pancasila Youth, servants of the nation... 00:19:40.060 --> 00:19:43.271 Once our sails go up - 00:19:43.480 --> 00:19:48.276 - we never turn back! 00:20:05.835 --> 00:20:08.045 - Pancasila! - Forever! 00:20:11.799 --> 00:20:18.889 All Pancasila Youth members are heroes. 00:20:19.098 --> 00:20:21.725 From exterminating the communists - 00:20:21.892 --> 00:20:26.772 - to fighting neo-communists and left-wing extremists- 00:20:26.980 --> 00:20:33.946 - and those who want to destroy our country.. 00:20:34.154 --> 00:20:37.157 This isn't only the duty of the army and police. 00:20:37.366 --> 00:20:41.912 We, Pancasila Youth, must take a stand. 00:20:42.120 --> 00:20:48.668 These are threats to the nation, and we must take action. 00:20:50.337 --> 00:20:55.216 They say Pancasila Youth is a gangster organization. 00:20:55.425 --> 00:20:57.635 If we're gangsters- 00:20:57.844 --> 00:21:01.472 - I'm the biggest gangster of all. 00:21:06.436 --> 00:21:08.396 Oh, shit! 00:21:12.692 --> 00:21:17.113 How did Pancasila Youth exterminate the communists? 00:21:17.321 --> 00:21:19.407 We killed them all. 00:21:19.573 --> 00:21:22.993 That's what happened. 00:21:23.953 --> 00:21:26.747 May I hit the ball now? 00:21:34.880 --> 00:21:39.885 We have too much democracy it's chaos. 00:21:40.093 --> 00:21:43.346 What is this 'democracy'? 00:21:43.555 --> 00:21:47.851 Things were better under the military dictatorship. 00:21:48.018 --> 00:21:51.104 Better economy More security . 00:21:53.481 --> 00:21:55.775 Gangsters are free men. 00:21:55.984 --> 00:22:01.698 They want to enjoy, life in their style. 00:22:02.740 --> 00:22:06.160 Relax and Rolex. 00:22:09.956 --> 00:22:14.085 You definitely have a mole on your pussy. 00:22:15.253 --> 00:22:17.463 Definitely. 00:22:24.845 --> 00:22:26.847 That was great. 00:22:32.978 --> 00:22:36.148 If I get a strike, I get a massage! 00:22:55.041 --> 00:22:59.462 There must be many ghosts here. 00:22:59.671 --> 00:23:02.715 They arrived perfectly healthy. 00:23:02.882 --> 00:23:05.635 Then they were beaten up. 00:23:05.843 --> 00:23:07.971 And died. 00:23:09.972 --> 00:23:11.891 Sit here. 00:23:15.561 --> 00:23:18.773 We have to re-enact this properly 00:23:29.825 --> 00:23:34.580 I never would have worn white pants. 00:23:35.622 --> 00:23:38.292 I never wore white. 00:23:38.500 --> 00:23:41.712 I always wore dark colors. 00:23:42.754 --> 00:23:46.633 I look like I'm dressed for a picnic. 00:23:52.597 --> 00:23:55.475 My acting has to be violent. 00:23:58.144 --> 00:24:04.609 And maybe I should dye my hair black. 00:24:04.776 --> 00:24:09.280 And now he's dead. 00:24:12.533 --> 00:24:15.953 But how do you feel watching this? 00:24:16.120 --> 00:24:21.876 How do I feel? Back then I felt more free. 00:24:22.126 --> 00:24:28.799 Older men are gentle, but young men... 00:24:29.008 --> 00:24:33.804 Especially me, because I watched so many sadistic movies. 00:24:34.013 --> 00:24:38.434 We were influenced by them. So we... 00:24:38.600 --> 00:24:44.273 We were more cruel than the movies. 00:24:47.859 --> 00:24:51.947 I know a good location for a torture scene. 00:24:52.155 --> 00:25:00.121 Behind the school, in the old toilets... 00:25:01.623 --> 00:25:05.210 - But the neighbors will hear.. - They know me. 00:25:05.418 --> 00:25:09.422 If I look at them, they run away. 00:25:11.466 --> 00:25:15.511 Look, I'm laughing. I did it wrong, didn't I? 00:25:15.720 --> 00:25:17.597 It's my mistake. 00:25:22.351 --> 00:25:27.023 I was influenced by films starring - 00:25:27.231 --> 00:25:31.694 - Marlon Brando, Al Pacino... 00:25:31.902 --> 00:25:39.910 Those were my favorites. And westerns with John Wayne. 00:25:41.954 --> 00:25:47.125 I brought these clothes from home. 00:25:47.292 --> 00:25:51.672 Hopefully they express my vision. 00:25:51.838 --> 00:25:58.970 Hey you have to change your shirt. Put on a white one. 00:25:59.179 --> 00:26:06.019 You'll look lovely in this! Perfect! 00:26:06.269 --> 00:26:11.900 - What the fuck is this? - Just a little decoration. 00:26:12.692 --> 00:26:16.404 It matches your body shape. 00:26:16.613 --> 00:26:19.824 It's perfect! 00:26:20.033 --> 00:26:25.413 - This one's for the 'Big Boss'. - Yep. It's perfect for me. 00:26:28.708 --> 00:26:33.254 And you know where I got the inspiration for it? 00:26:33.462 --> 00:26:38.592 I always watched gangsterfilms - 00:26:38.759 --> 00:26:42.972 - where they always kill with wire. 00:26:43.180 --> 00:26:45.766 It's faster with wire. 00:26:45.974 --> 00:26:52.439 Because when you pull the wire hard, the victim can't grab it... 00:26:52.606 --> 00:26:57.277 He can't, because it cuts in... 00:27:22.260 --> 00:27:26.097 it's great to be a communist, huh? 00:27:26.305 --> 00:27:31.602 Don't just nod. Say 'Yes sir!' 00:27:34.647 --> 00:27:37.817 - Wanna smoke, Pang? - No. 00:27:38.025 --> 00:27:44.865 Try this 'neo-colonialist' cigar. 00:27:45.074 --> 00:27:47.993 Have a puff. 00:27:48.994 --> 00:27:52.498 Just stick it in your nose if you don't want to smoke it. 00:27:52.706 --> 00:27:55.751 - Look at him! - Look at me. 00:27:55.918 --> 00:27:58.837 Look him in the eye! 00:28:22.110 --> 00:28:26.531 Hold on, Joshua. It's evening prayers. 00:28:31.702 --> 00:28:35.122 - Don't tie the blindfold so tight. - I didn't. 00:28:35.331 --> 00:28:38.959 The way I pull it just looks tight. 00:28:40.795 --> 00:28:43.839 Even by the window it's hot. 00:29:04.901 --> 00:29:07.779 'Human rights!' 00:29:07.988 --> 00:29:14.244 All this talk about 'human rights' pisses me off. 00:29:14.452 --> 00:29:19.249 'We want a little human rights!' 00:29:20.834 --> 00:29:23.795 Back then there was no human rights. 00:29:23.962 --> 00:29:28.216 - Because you made a revolution. - That's no excuse. 00:29:28.424 --> 00:29:34.347 For example, in Argentina some generals launch a coup d'état- 00:29:34.514 --> 00:29:38.935 - and then they're convicted of human rights violations. 00:29:40.978 --> 00:29:44.482 But I'm a gangster 00:29:48.152 --> 00:29:51.322 I'm a gangster A free man. 00:29:51.530 --> 00:29:53.907 A movietheater gangster. 00:29:54.074 --> 00:29:56.660 Not much education. 00:29:56.869 --> 00:30:01.582 - A human drop out. - A drop out. 00:30:02.624 --> 00:30:08.171 There are people like me everywhere in the world. 00:30:29.984 --> 00:30:32.403 They still look great. 00:30:35.031 --> 00:30:39.535 There were many Chinese communists! 00:30:39.744 --> 00:30:44.957 I got a thick book with all their names. 00:30:45.124 --> 00:30:48.752 I'd visit them, 'How much you gonna pay?' 00:30:48.961 --> 00:30:54.174 They'd say 'Please, Sir don't! I'm old.' 00:30:54.383 --> 00:30:59.805 We used them for their money We didn't kill them. 00:31:00.013 --> 00:31:05.394 But if they didn't pay we killed them. They can't have it both ways. 00:31:05.602 --> 00:31:09.106 If they didn't pay.. 00:31:09.272 --> 00:31:11.942 ...we killed them. 00:31:22.577 --> 00:31:27.874 These Chinese are diff cult. Sometimes they piss me off. 00:31:31.794 --> 00:31:38.301 That's it... You sure speak good Chinese. 00:31:40.094 --> 00:31:45.308 When I need money there's nothing like an old friend. 00:31:45.474 --> 00:31:50.271 With others, if it's not enough, I won't accept it. 00:31:51.564 --> 00:31:57.152 Hi Lung. C'mon, shake my hand. It's been a long time. 00:31:57.319 --> 00:32:01.448 - I need money. - Why me? 00:32:01.657 --> 00:32:05.828 I'm asking you nicely 00:32:05.994 --> 00:32:10.874 I don't even ask the others. I just punch them... 00:32:11.041 --> 00:32:14.252 An uppercut right in the stomach. 00:32:15.879 --> 00:32:21.426 You give this sincerely? Then thank you very much. 00:32:26.639 --> 00:32:31.352 Our organization is planning a big meeting. We need money. 00:32:31.561 --> 00:32:35.356 We need more than normal. 00:32:35.565 --> 00:32:40.028 We need a huge amount. 00:32:40.194 --> 00:32:43.698 Don't give the usual amount. 00:32:44.157 --> 00:32:46.617 What’s this shit? 00:32:46.826 --> 00:32:49.120 Give more or I won't accept it. 00:32:49.328 --> 00:32:54.417 - Please... - I'd never accept so little. 00:32:55.793 --> 00:32:57.837 Here. 00:32:58.045 --> 00:33:01.090 That's not enough. 00:33:01.298 --> 00:33:04.051 What's wrong with you, Cik? 00:33:04.259 --> 00:33:07.638 We consider you our father Cik. 00:33:07.846 --> 00:33:13.477 So throw in more, and we'll take it, because this isn’t for just anybody. 00:33:13.685 --> 00:33:17.898 Count it up and put it in. 00:33:35.206 --> 00:33:40.295 The spirit of Pancasila Youth - 00:33:40.503 --> 00:33:44.632 - which people accuse of being gangsters... 00:33:44.841 --> 00:33:49.554 Gangsters are people who work outside the system - 00:33:49.762 --> 00:33:53.849 - not for the government. 00:33:55.476 --> 00:33:59.063 The word 'gangster' comes from 'free men'. 00:33:59.230 --> 00:34:03.275 This nation needs 'free men'! 00:34:06.987 --> 00:34:10.157 If everyone worked for the government- 00:34:10.364 --> 00:34:14.620 - we'd be a nation of bureaucrats. We'd get nothing done. 00:34:14.786 --> 00:34:18.165 We need gangsters to get things done. 00:34:18.373 --> 00:34:21.960 Free, private men who get things done. 00:34:24.629 --> 00:34:28.132 Use your muscles! 00:34:28.341 --> 00:34:31.469 Muscles aren't for beating people up - 00:34:31.636 --> 00:34:36.808 - although beating people up is sometimes needed. 00:34:39.643 --> 00:34:42.730 - Once more, Pancasila! - Forever! 00:34:42.938 --> 00:34:45.525 - Pancasila! - Freedom! 00:34:48.652 --> 00:34:53.616 While you wait for this train, we wish to inform you - 00:34:53.824 --> 00:34:59.622 - that the traffic laws are there to protect you and your family. 00:34:59.789 --> 00:35:04.376 We also inform you, that in accordance with the law... 00:35:06.921 --> 00:35:13.218 - This is me, Anwar Congo. - Oh, that's you! 00:35:13.385 --> 00:35:16.263 Look, I'm rolling a joint. 00:35:16.430 --> 00:35:19.558 You're smoking pot. 00:35:19.766 --> 00:35:26.022 That's me. I'm wearing a plaid shirt, camouflage pants, saddle shoes... 00:35:26.189 --> 00:35:28.942 See how 'elite' I am? 00:35:29.109 --> 00:35:32.737 This is what you should wear in the studio scene. 00:35:32.904 --> 00:35:39.452 And for the killing scene... Jeans. I wore jeans for killing. 00:35:39.661 --> 00:35:45.833 When you kill people, you should wear thick pants. Like this... 00:35:46.042 --> 00:35:51.380 - How about a checkered pattern? - That'd be great, but small ones. 00:35:51.547 --> 00:35:57.428 To look cool, I imitated movie stars. 00:35:57.595 --> 00:36:01.974 But I didn't copy Elvis Presley 00:36:02.183 --> 00:36:07.354 Herman, I'll make you a gorgeous dress! 00:36:08.272 --> 00:36:12.568 - More energy! - We're ready boss! 00:36:12.776 --> 00:36:15.904 Burn them all! 00:36:16.071 --> 00:36:17.865 Finally you got it! 00:36:18.031 --> 00:36:25.247 Cry 'What's going on, mom?' 'Leave us alone!' 00:36:26.289 --> 00:36:32.087 Wait everybody! Anwar show us how to kill. 00:36:34.422 --> 00:36:37.676 You! Come here! 00:36:39.636 --> 00:36:43.640 What's going on? 00:36:43.848 --> 00:36:51.439 Who says I'm a communist? 00:36:56.569 --> 00:37:01.866 Hold him down! 00:37:02.074 --> 00:37:04.410 Torture him! Kill him! 00:37:05.786 --> 00:37:07.538 Are you listening? 00:37:07.705 --> 00:37:11.834 Stop denying you're a communist! 00:37:16.213 --> 00:37:18.841 - Okay fine! - Leave our grandfather alone! 00:37:19.049 --> 00:37:23.095 You take him, I'll take the kids! 00:37:25.389 --> 00:37:28.558 - You love these kids? - Please stop. 00:37:28.767 --> 00:37:31.144 Sit! 00:37:31.353 --> 00:37:35.857 - Or I'll smash this kid! - Let me go! 00:37:36.024 --> 00:37:41.905 If you love these kids, you better stop lying. 00:37:42.072 --> 00:37:44.616 It's your choice! 00:37:47.076 --> 00:37:49.287 Cut! 00:37:51.789 --> 00:37:54.208 Amazing! 00:38:07.221 --> 00:38:09.890 Why do people watch James Bond? 00:38:10.808 --> 00:38:13.185 To see action. 00:38:14.228 --> 00:38:19.650 Why do people watch films about Nazis? To see power and sadism! 00:38:19.858 --> 00:38:22.027 We can do that! 00:38:22.236 --> 00:38:27.741 We can make something even more sadistic than... 00:38:28.742 --> 00:38:35.332 ...more sadistic than what you see in movies about Nazis. 00:38:35.499 --> 00:38:37.667 Sure I can! 00:38:37.876 --> 00:38:43.048 Because there's never been a movie where heads get chopped off- 00:38:43.256 --> 00:38:47.343 - except in fiction, but that’s different - 00:38:47.510 --> 00:38:51.514 - because I did it in real life! 00:39:01.399 --> 00:39:06.404 What's clear is no film has ever used our method. 00:39:09.198 --> 00:39:13.577 We can attract a huge audience! 00:39:13.744 --> 00:39:17.748 Humor... it's a must. 00:39:17.957 --> 00:39:21.418 - Romance? - We've got it! 00:39:23.545 --> 00:39:26.006 Fuck this umbrella! 00:39:26.215 --> 00:39:29.218 Herman’s trapped. 00:39:29.384 --> 00:39:33.055 He should scream, 'Leave me alone! Stop! Stop!' 00:39:33.221 --> 00:39:38.185 Meanwhile, the three of us scream, 'You communist bitch!' 00:39:39.936 --> 00:39:43.440 Keep attacking her! 00:39:46.026 --> 00:39:52.282 I'm gonna rape you! I'm gonna kill you! 00:39:53.491 --> 00:39:59.414 How long have you been pregnant? You'll give birth to a communist! 00:39:59.580 --> 00:40:02.625 But if the audience is tense the whole time - 00:40:02.834 --> 00:40:06.087 - with nothing to entertain them, it will never work! 00:40:09.423 --> 00:40:14.512 On Saturday night, I went to the movies. 00:40:14.720 --> 00:40:20.226 Oh, I'm not gonna shake my ass or anything. 00:40:20.434 --> 00:40:27.274 I watched the movie alone with my girlfriend. 00:40:27.483 --> 00:40:35.490 The film was sold out - 00:40:35.657 --> 00:40:42.456 - so I bought tickets from the movie theater gangsters. 00:40:42.622 --> 00:40:46.084 Oh how lovely.. 00:41:05.645 --> 00:41:13.402 - Adi! How’s the family? - We're all fine. 00:41:15.154 --> 00:41:19.742 Was it a good flight? 00:41:19.950 --> 00:41:24.163 - How've you been, Anwar? - I'm fine. 00:41:25.581 --> 00:41:28.917 - The city has changed a lot. - Really? 00:41:29.126 --> 00:41:33.464 I've tried to call you many times. 00:41:33.672 --> 00:41:37.843 But you never answer my calls. 00:42:06.496 --> 00:42:08.790 Your nose needs more. 00:42:08.998 --> 00:42:15.838 - Do you remember Soaduon? - Yes, where is he? 00:42:16.047 --> 00:42:20.926 Over there. Soaduon Siregar. 00:42:21.093 --> 00:42:26.932 Now he takes credit for everything, but back then he was nobody 00:42:27.099 --> 00:42:30.602 I remember him. 00:42:37.359 --> 00:42:42.906 - Adi, this is Soaduon Siregar. - I remember you. 00:42:43.115 --> 00:42:47.327 He's one of Ibrahim's Sinik's journalists. 00:42:47.494 --> 00:42:49.830 As they say: 00:42:50.038 --> 00:42:55.001 'Although camels live in Arabia, they never get to visit Mecca.' 00:42:55.210 --> 00:42:59.631 Being close to a rich boss didn't make him rich. 00:42:59.839 --> 00:43:03.760 Just like me. Have a seat. 00:43:03.968 --> 00:43:07.680 Interrogation of Communist, Take 2 00:43:09.807 --> 00:43:16.772 We give land to the farmers. 00:43:16.939 --> 00:43:21.902 We give them fertilizer, seeds, farming equipment... 00:43:22.945 --> 00:43:28.200 In order to spread communism, right? 00:43:28.409 --> 00:43:35.916 Indeed, we want to show that the Communists are the best party. 00:43:36.959 --> 00:43:43.131 Why do you recruit people to join an illegal party? 00:43:43.340 --> 00:43:48.679 But back then, it wasn't illegal. 00:43:48.887 --> 00:43:53.475 - It wasn't? - Before 1965? Of course not! 00:43:53.850 --> 00:44:01.107 It's easy to make the communists look bad after we destroyed them. 00:44:01.775 --> 00:44:06.738 So, the communists were not more cruel than us. 00:44:06.946 --> 00:44:11.326 We were the cruel ones! 00:44:11.492 --> 00:44:15.371 'Cruel' is totally different from sadistic. 00:44:15.538 --> 00:44:20.251 - No, it isn't. They're synonyms. - No. 00:44:20.459 --> 00:44:23.045 Sadism is different. 00:44:23.212 --> 00:44:26.507 - You're playing with words! - No, I'm not. 00:44:26.716 --> 00:44:28.968 You're playing with words. 00:44:32.805 --> 00:44:37.267 It bumped its head. 00:44:42.689 --> 00:44:49.321 Sometimes I think... if my dad was a communist and was killed - 00:44:49.488 --> 00:44:53.825 - I'd be upset. That's normal, right? 00:44:57.329 --> 00:45:03.335 For example, if you killed my father I'd be upset with you. 00:45:03.543 --> 00:45:05.837 Why'd you kill my father? 00:45:06.046 --> 00:45:10.884 Then, you don't let me go to school. You don't let me work. 00:45:11.050 --> 00:45:16.305 You don't even let me marry This needs to be changed. 00:45:16.514 --> 00:45:19.517 There's been no official apology - 00:45:19.725 --> 00:45:23.312 - but what's so hard about apologizing? 00:45:23.521 --> 00:45:27.316 The government would apologize, not us. 00:45:27.525 --> 00:45:31.654 It would be like medicine. It would reduce the pain. 00:45:31.821 --> 00:45:36.992 - Forgiveness. - Wouldn't they curse us secretly? 00:45:37.201 --> 00:45:43.957 They curse us secretly.. Because if they cursed us openly.. 00:45:44.166 --> 00:45:49.296 They'd be arrested! So they whisper their curses? 00:45:50.964 --> 00:45:55.010 For me, Adi, in the end... 00:45:55.218 --> 00:46:00.307 I'm disturbed in my sleep. Maybe because- 00:46:00.515 --> 00:46:05.979 - when I strangled people with wire I watched them die... 00:46:06.187 --> 00:46:10.316 But when you used other methods, you also watched. 00:46:10.525 --> 00:46:14.445 Yes, but when I'm falling asleep, it comes back to me. 00:46:14.612 --> 00:46:17.365 That's what gives me nightmares. 00:46:19.701 --> 00:46:26.040 You feel haunted because your mind is weak. 00:46:26.207 --> 00:46:29.627 Have you ever been to a neurologist? 00:46:29.835 --> 00:46:35.758 If I went to a neurologist, it would mean I'm crazy. 00:46:35.966 --> 00:46:40.888 No! Psychiatrists are not for crazy people. 00:46:41.055 --> 00:46:47.644 Psychiatrists aren't for crazy people. They're nerve experts. 00:46:47.811 --> 00:46:54.818 Even I've been to a nerve expert... But for a mild stroke. 00:46:55.652 --> 00:47:02.617 See, your nightmares are just a nerve disturbance. 00:47:02.909 --> 00:47:05.787 Come on, give it a try! 00:47:05.996 --> 00:47:12.085 If you see a shrink, you talk, he talks. 00:47:12.293 --> 00:47:15.755 Then he gives you nerve vitamins. 00:47:27.308 --> 00:47:30.770 Remember the 'Crush the Chinese' campaign in 1966? 00:47:30.978 --> 00:47:33.314 All along Sudirman Street - 00:47:33.522 --> 00:47:38.027 - I killed every Chinese person I met. I stabbed them! 00:47:38.235 --> 00:47:45.701 I don't remember how many but it was dozens. 00:47:45.909 --> 00:47:49.413 If I met them, I stabbed them. 00:47:49.621 --> 00:47:54.543 All the way to Asia Street, where I met my girlfriend's dad. 00:47:54.751 --> 00:47:59.214 Remember my girlfriend was Chinese? 00:47:59.423 --> 00:48:03.969 'Crush the Chinese' became 'Crush my Girlfriend's Dad'! 00:48:04.177 --> 00:48:07.973 So I stabbed him, too! Because he was Chinese! 00:48:08.181 --> 00:48:13.186 He fell into a ditch. I hit him with a brick. He sank. 00:48:19.817 --> 00:48:24.906 Killing is the worst crime you can do. 00:48:25.114 --> 00:48:28.534 So the key is to find a way - 00:48:28.743 --> 00:48:33.080 - not to feel guilty 00:48:33.247 --> 00:48:36.626 it's all about finding the right excuse. 00:48:36.834 --> 00:48:42.715 For example, if I'm asked to kill someone... 00:48:43.883 --> 00:48:50.806 If the compensation is right... 00:48:52.099 --> 00:48:57.229 ...then of course I'll do it, and from one perspective it's not wrong. 00:48:57.437 --> 00:49:01.942 That’s the perspective we must make ourselves believe. 00:49:03.944 --> 00:49:08.657 At first, I was scared... These are top gangsters! 00:49:08.865 --> 00:49:15.038 Like you and Anwar... 00:49:15.205 --> 00:49:20.210 Terrifying! And making a film! It's shocking! 00:49:20.418 --> 00:49:23.880 But if you want a true story I have one. 00:49:24.047 --> 00:49:29.344 Tell us. Because everything in this film should be true. 00:49:29.552 --> 00:49:34.348 There was a shopkeeper. 00:49:34.557 --> 00:49:38.936 He was the only Chinese person in the area. 00:49:39.145 --> 00:49:43.315 To be honest, he was my stepfather. 00:49:43.482 --> 00:49:46.569 He was my stepfather.. 00:49:46.735 --> 00:49:50.489 But although he was my stepfather- 00:49:50.698 --> 00:49:54.785 - I lived with him since I was a baby.. 00:49:54.993 --> 00:50:01.083 At 3 AM, someone knocked on our door. 00:50:01.291 --> 00:50:07.881 They called my dad. Mom said, 'It's dangerous! Don't go out.' 00:50:08.048 --> 00:50:10.675 But he went out. 00:50:10.842 --> 00:50:14.179 We heard him shout, 'Help!' Then, silence. 00:50:14.387 --> 00:50:18.892 They took him away We couldn't sleep until morning. 00:50:19.100 --> 00:50:23.521 - How old were you? - 11 or 12... 00:50:23.688 --> 00:50:26.482 I remember it well. 00:50:26.649 --> 00:50:30.194 And it's impossible to forget! 00:50:30.361 --> 00:50:34.907 We found his body under an oil drum. 00:50:35.116 --> 00:50:39.996 The drum was cut in half- 00:50:40.162 --> 00:50:43.582 - and the body was under it, like this... 00:50:43.791 --> 00:50:47.002 His head and feet were covered by sacks - 00:50:47.211 --> 00:50:50.214 - but one foot poked out like this. 00:50:50.422 --> 00:50:54.426 That same morning, nobody dared help us... 00:50:54.635 --> 00:51:02.017 We buried him like a goat next to the main road. 00:51:02.226 --> 00:51:06.605 Just me and my grandfather carrying the body- 00:51:06.772 --> 00:51:11.693 - digging the grave... No one helped us. I was so small. 00:51:12.069 --> 00:51:20.076 Then, all the communist families were exiled... 00:51:21.077 --> 00:51:25.707 We were dumped in a shantytown at the edge of the jungle. 00:51:25.915 --> 00:51:30.587 That's why to be honest, I've never been to school. 00:51:30.795 --> 00:51:34.674 I had to teach myself to read and write. 00:51:34.841 --> 00:51:39.262 Why should I hide this from you? 00:51:39.470 --> 00:51:45.643 I promise I'm not criticizing what we're doing. 00:51:45.851 --> 00:51:51.107 It's only input for the film. I promise I'm not criticizing you. 00:51:51.315 --> 00:51:54.652 Look, everything's already been planned. 00:51:54.860 --> 00:51:58.530 We can't include every story or the film will never end. 00:51:58.739 --> 00:52:05.746 And your story is too complicated. It would take days to shoot. 00:52:05.954 --> 00:52:11.501 - Maybe we can work it in... - Or it can motivate the actors. 00:52:13.587 --> 00:52:16.798 We believe this man's a communist. 00:52:17.924 --> 00:52:24.681 After we decided to kill him, there were many reactions. Some prayed. 00:52:24.848 --> 00:52:30.270 - Come on, pray. - 'God help me!' 00:52:30.436 --> 00:52:34.190 How do you tell him he's going to die? Angrily or softly? 00:52:34.357 --> 00:52:41.572 I tried to make them accept that they were going to die. 00:52:41.781 --> 00:52:46.160 Anwar teach us how to torture. 00:52:46.327 --> 00:52:50.581 'You want me to use this?' 00:52:50.790 --> 00:52:55.085 - Should I scare him? - Yes. 00:52:55.252 --> 00:52:59.882 You want me to use this? 00:53:00.090 --> 00:53:05.596 Then, beg him not to. 00:53:05.763 --> 00:53:12.144 Now, take the cloth and blindfold him. 00:53:12.352 --> 00:53:18.900 Josh always asks me, 'You worked in the same office - 00:53:19.109 --> 00:53:23.029 - how could you not have known?' 00:53:23.196 --> 00:53:29.285 I declare: I never saw anything. 00:53:30.245 --> 00:53:37.669 Now, seeing your re-enactment, I realize you were so smooth - 00:53:37.835 --> 00:53:43.341 - that even me, a journalist with such sharp senses... 00:53:43.549 --> 00:53:45.551 I never knew! 00:53:45.718 --> 00:53:53.726 I'm surprised. Because we didn't hide what we were doing. 00:53:54.685 --> 00:53:59.648 - If you didn't know, I'd be shocked. - I didn't. 00:53:59.857 --> 00:54:02.526 We were in the same office... 00:54:02.735 --> 00:54:07.656 - And we didn't hide it. - I never knew. 00:54:09.700 --> 00:54:16.832 You were so smooth, and I rarely went upstairs to your office. 00:54:16.999 --> 00:54:22.879 - Your publisher directed the torture. - No! 00:54:23.088 --> 00:54:26.424 - He says so himself. - That's not true! 00:54:26.633 --> 00:54:33.765 He and the other leaders decided who we killed. 00:54:34.557 --> 00:54:39.229 Look, I'm not calling you a liar, but logically.. 00:54:39.395 --> 00:54:44.567 - Continue, Adi. - I'm not calling him a liar Joshua. 00:54:44.776 --> 00:54:52.783 But this man, a journalist distancing himself from these things... 00:54:53.200 --> 00:54:59.331 That's predictable. But logically something we didn't hide... 00:54:59.540 --> 00:55:04.920 How could he not know? Even the neighbors knew! 00:55:05.087 --> 00:55:10.634 Hundreds were killed. It was an open secret. 00:55:11.802 --> 00:55:17.432 - Drink! - Have some water. 00:55:17.599 --> 00:55:21.812 - Drink! - It's not poison! 00:55:22.020 --> 00:55:26.858 Drink! Just drink it. 00:55:27.067 --> 00:55:33.907 - Drink it. It will refresh you. - Give him a cigarette. 00:55:35.658 --> 00:55:38.745 Let him smoke. 00:55:38.912 --> 00:55:43.041 It's sadistic, Adi. 00:55:44.250 --> 00:55:49.922 Ask him again about his activities. 00:55:51.382 --> 00:55:56.220 Have mercy on me. 00:56:01.767 --> 00:56:05.771 Please, sir. 00:56:16.949 --> 00:56:19.993 Should we kill him? 00:56:20.160 --> 00:56:25.374 Wait. Would you give a message to my family? 00:56:25.749 --> 00:56:28.001 Sure. 00:56:28.210 --> 00:56:34.841 Or could I speak to them one last time? 00:56:35.050 --> 00:56:38.511 No way. 00:56:41.765 --> 00:56:45.435 Okay pull. 00:56:51.107 --> 00:56:57.238 Lower your head. 00:56:58.447 --> 00:57:00.783 He's dead. 00:57:04.578 --> 00:57:07.540 Wrap him up. 00:57:27.643 --> 00:57:32.814 Listen, if we succeed in making this film - 00:57:33.023 --> 00:57:38.320 - it will disprove all the propaganda about the communists being cruel. 00:57:38.486 --> 00:57:42.032 - And show that we were cruel! - We're the cruel ones. 00:57:42.240 --> 00:57:48.788 If this film is a success! We must understand every step we take here. 00:57:48.955 --> 00:57:53.126 It's not about fear it's 40 years ago... 00:57:53.334 --> 00:57:57.255 ...so any criminal case has expired. 00:57:57.463 --> 00:58:02.385 It's not about fear it's about image. The whole society will say: 00:58:02.552 --> 00:58:09.350 'We always suspected it. They lied about the communists being cruel.' 00:58:09.517 --> 00:58:13.812 it's not a problem for us. It's a problem for history. 00:58:14.021 --> 00:58:21.737 The whole story will be reversed. Not 180 degrees... 360 degrees! 00:58:21.945 --> 00:58:25.073 If we succeed with this scene! 00:58:25.282 --> 00:58:33.290 But why should we always hide our history if that's the truth? 00:58:34.416 --> 00:58:37.669 No, the consequence is... 00:58:37.836 --> 00:58:41.840 ...that everything Anwar and I have always said is false. 00:58:42.048 --> 00:58:44.718 It's not the communists who were cruel. 00:58:44.884 --> 00:58:48.930 - But that’s true! - I completely agree. 00:58:49.681 --> 00:58:54.686 But not everything true should be made public. 00:58:54.978 --> 00:58:58.398 I believe even God has secrets. 00:58:59.857 --> 00:59:03.778 I'm absolutely aware that we were cruel. 00:59:05.821 --> 00:59:09.575 That's all I have to say 00:59:09.784 --> 00:59:14.288 it's up to you what to do about it. 00:59:50.448 --> 00:59:56.537 I don't mean to make you uncomfortable, but I have to ask... 00:59:56.704 --> 01:00:01.793 By telling yourself it was 'war', you're not haunted like Anwar. 01:00:02.001 --> 01:00:06.631 But the Geneva Conventions define what you did as 'war crimes'. 01:00:06.797 --> 01:00:11.093 I don't necessarily agree with those international laws. 01:00:11.302 --> 01:00:16.140 When Bush was in power Guantanamo was right. 01:00:16.307 --> 01:00:21.812 Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction. 01:00:22.021 --> 01:00:28.777 That was right according to Bush, but now it's wrong. 01:00:29.778 --> 01:00:34.783 The Geneva Conventions may be today's morality but tomorrow - 01:00:34.950 --> 01:00:39.413 - we'll have the Jakarta Conventions and dump the Geneva Conventions. 01:00:40.664 --> 01:00:45.460 'War crimes' are defined by the winners. 01:00:45.627 --> 01:00:49.547 I'm a winner So I can make my own definition. 01:00:49.714 --> 01:00:53.134 I needn't follow the international definitions. 01:00:53.343 --> 01:00:59.515 And more important, not everything true is good. 01:00:59.724 --> 01:01:05.188 Some truths are not good. Like re-opening this case. 01:01:05.396 --> 01:01:09.150 Even if everything you're finding out is true, it's not good. 01:01:09.358 --> 01:01:14.572 But for millions of victims' families- 01:01:14.780 --> 01:01:19.869 - if the truth comes out, it's good. 01:01:20.035 --> 01:01:25.457 Fine, but start with the first murder Cain and Abel. 01:01:25.624 --> 01:01:30.003 Why focus on killing the communists? 01:01:30.212 --> 01:01:32.756 Americans killed the Indians. 01:01:32.965 --> 01:01:36.802 Has anybody been punished for that? Punish them! 01:01:37.010 --> 01:01:41.139 For me, re-opening this case is a provocation to fight. 01:01:41.306 --> 01:01:45.727 I'm ready! If the world wants continuous war, I'm ready 01:01:45.936 --> 01:01:49.940 if you wanna make us fight, I'm ready! 01:01:50.106 --> 01:01:56.696 What if you were brought to the international court in the Hague? 01:01:56.863 --> 01:01:59.866 - Now? - Yes. 01:02:00.033 --> 01:02:05.580 I'd go! I don't feel guilty so why would I go? 01:02:05.747 --> 01:02:10.543 Because I'd be famous. I'm ready! 01:02:10.710 --> 01:02:16.257 Please, get me called to the Hague! 01:02:21.595 --> 01:02:24.265 More hot! 01:02:27.851 --> 01:02:30.396 More hot! 01:02:33.315 --> 01:02:37.027 I like this... Eye candy. 01:02:44.034 --> 01:02:48.413 This is healthy for a guy like me. 01:02:54.419 --> 01:02:56.880 Enjoy the scenery Ma'am. Okay. 01:02:57.088 --> 01:03:00.592 - One, two, three. - Ah! 01:03:00.800 --> 01:03:03.553 - Again! One, two, three. - Ah! 01:03:05.763 --> 01:03:09.225 I was asked to run for parliament. 01:03:09.434 --> 01:03:13.771 'Why me?' 'Don't worry! You can do it!' they said. 01:03:20.278 --> 01:03:25.908 Then I thought, 'Why not?'. 01:03:26.075 --> 01:03:31.622 In fact, I'm a perfect candidate because I'm well known! 01:03:47.512 --> 01:03:50.348 Don't clench your fist. 01:03:50.557 --> 01:03:53.101 Be quiet! I've almost got it! 01:03:53.268 --> 01:03:56.813 - OK, but don't make a fist. - You're ruining the sound! 01:03:56.980 --> 01:03:59.858 - But... - Stop it! 01:04:00.025 --> 01:04:05.155 Be quiet! You're a real pain! Just shut up! 01:04:05.363 --> 01:04:09.742 Long live the Businessmen and Workers Party! I am Herman... 01:04:09.951 --> 01:04:14.664 ...ready to fight for workers' rights. 01:04:14.872 --> 01:04:18.876 Remember to vote for me on election day! 01:04:20.586 --> 01:04:26.634 If I get elected and get on the Building Commission - 01:04:26.842 --> 01:04:32.306 - I can get money from everyone. 01:04:33.349 --> 01:04:38.103 For example, if a building is 10 cm too small... 01:04:39.563 --> 01:04:42.900 I can demand 'Tear down the building!'. 01:04:43.066 --> 01:04:47.237 They'll say, 'Please don't report us. Here's your money'. 01:04:48.322 --> 01:04:52.617 Even if nothing's wrong with the building - 01:04:52.826 --> 01:04:56.872 - if I threaten them, they'll give me money anyway. 01:04:58.582 --> 01:05:03.545 Not just a little money In a block of 10 buildings... 01:05:03.753 --> 01:05:07.298 if each pays $10000, just do the math! 01:05:07.465 --> 01:05:10.885 That's already $100,000. 01:05:12.929 --> 01:05:15.223 That's only one neighborhood! 01:05:17.225 --> 01:05:24.023 Actually parliament should bethe most noble place in society. 01:05:24.190 --> 01:05:27.443 But if we see what they do there... 01:05:27.652 --> 01:05:35.493 They're really just robbers with ties. 01:05:37.703 --> 01:05:42.499 What illegal businesses are Pancasila Youth involved in? 01:05:42.666 --> 01:05:45.669 Gambling. 01:05:45.878 --> 01:05:49.923 Gambling, night clubs. 01:05:50.132 --> 01:05:52.342 Supermarkets. 01:05:52.551 --> 01:05:56.972 But that’s not illegal. They just hire us as security. 01:05:57.139 --> 01:06:00.851 - The illegal ones? - Gambling. 01:06:01.017 --> 01:06:03.770 - Any others? - Smuggling. 01:06:03.937 --> 01:06:10.193 Illegal fishing, illegal logging, illegal gambling... 01:06:10.401 --> 01:06:14.364 ...and if they don't pay we blackmail them. 01:06:16.324 --> 01:06:18.826 Let's welcome our candidate, Marzuki! 01:06:19.035 --> 01:06:22.163 Long live our party! 01:06:22.371 --> 01:06:24.081 Pancasila! 01:06:25.374 --> 01:06:28.711 Ready! 01:06:28.920 --> 01:06:32.715 What am I supposed to say? How does it begin? 01:06:32.923 --> 01:06:36.927 - What's the first sentence? - I'm Herman. 01:06:37.094 --> 01:06:40.180 - I'm Herman! - Stand up, you'll look better. 01:06:40.472 --> 01:06:43.726 Ladies and gentlemen... What comes next? I can't remember 01:06:43.934 --> 01:06:51.191 I'm Herman, from the Businessmen and Workers' Party! 01:06:56.279 --> 01:07:01.159 - Any free T-shirts? - Nope... Ma'am, here's my card. 01:07:01.368 --> 01:07:03.829 T-shirts! We want presents! 01:07:04.037 --> 01:07:09.042 Don't worry about money or presents. We'll come back with gifts. 01:07:09.250 --> 01:07:12.253 Pray for us, hopefully he'll win. 01:07:12.420 --> 01:07:15.173 Tell people who ask for presents... 01:07:15.340 --> 01:07:18.468 'We'll come back with gifts if we win.' 01:07:18.676 --> 01:07:22.430 Tell them, 'We're filming today' 01:07:23.514 --> 01:07:26.976 - Don't forget. - Just a card? 01:07:27.143 --> 01:07:29.228 Where's 'the bonus'? Don't we get anything else? 01:07:29.478 --> 01:07:32.398 - 'The bonus' comes later. - Once you're elected? 01:07:32.607 --> 01:07:37.903 - Honey where do you think you are? - Yes, but... 01:07:38.696 --> 01:07:45.828 Many of the parties bribe people to vote for them. 01:07:46.036 --> 01:07:49.081 In fact, they all do. 01:07:49.289 --> 01:07:53.418 And when you see thousands of people at a rally - 01:07:53.585 --> 01:07:57.631 - all of them were paid to be there. 01:08:01.134 --> 01:08:05.388 They consider it going to work. 01:08:06.932 --> 01:08:09.017 Without money they won't come. 01:08:09.226 --> 01:08:13.313 They'll ask each other, 'how much did you get?'. 01:08:16.441 --> 01:08:21.112 And leaders just get paid more! 01:08:26.533 --> 01:08:34.457 Nowadays, nobody believes in what they're campaigning for. 01:08:38.379 --> 01:08:42.174 We've all become like soap opera actors. 01:08:45.176 --> 01:08:49.055 Our souls have become like soap opera actors. 01:08:49.223 --> 01:08:52.810 They look happy, but inside they’re pissed off! 01:08:52.975 --> 01:08:56.772 Fuck this shit, they're thinking. 01:09:22.296 --> 01:09:24.799 Where's the injured one? 01:09:30.263 --> 01:09:33.474 Where’s the crippled one? 01:09:33.683 --> 01:09:36.769 - Which? - The injured one. 01:09:36.935 --> 01:09:40.356 There she is. 01:09:40.939 --> 01:09:44.859 - Sweet little duck. - Don't! You'll hurt her again. 01:09:48.029 --> 01:09:51.951 She's weak because you broke her leg. 01:09:55.162 --> 01:09:59.833 Don't do that. She's a baby! 01:10:00.876 --> 01:10:04.504 Say 'I’m sorry Duck.' 01:10:04.713 --> 01:10:06.923 - I'm sorry Duck. - That's it. 01:10:07.090 --> 01:10:11.636 Now say 'lt was an accident. I was scared, so I hit you.' 01:10:11.928 --> 01:10:15.056 Say 'lt was an accident.' Speak loudly. 01:10:15.223 --> 01:10:19.978 - Sorry Duck. - And pet her a little. 01:10:27.694 --> 01:10:32.365 Now the communist has become a ghost. 01:10:32.532 --> 01:10:40.498 He was killed and became a ghost. 01:10:40.706 --> 01:10:43.376 - Haunting you. - Haunting me. 01:10:43.626 --> 01:10:46.921 Do you feel trauma seeing this? 01:10:47.171 --> 01:10:53.594 If he came to me at night, I'd be terrified. 01:10:53.802 --> 01:10:58.640 It's like the ghosts hate me. 01:10:58.807 --> 01:11:02.895 Because in my dreams they have threatening voices... 01:11:03.061 --> 01:11:08.859 - They laugh, but frighteningly! - Try to laugh. 01:11:14.531 --> 01:11:16.783 Anwar's nightmare, take 2. 01:11:17.742 --> 01:11:18.827 Standby. 01:11:19.035 --> 01:11:20.245 Record. 01:11:32.966 --> 01:11:37.095 I thought I killed you! 01:11:40.223 --> 01:11:44.852 - What did I do wrong? - Just get up, surprised. 01:11:45.061 --> 01:11:51.358 And ask, 'Why are you alive?' What's so hard about it? 01:11:58.490 --> 01:12:02.411 I... I thought I killed you! 01:12:27.894 --> 01:12:31.147 Why am I coming to this place? 01:12:33.191 --> 01:12:39.739 Because it affected me so deeply. 01:12:42.492 --> 01:12:46.495 Because the method of killing... 01:12:48.623 --> 01:12:52.001 ...was very different. 01:12:52.168 --> 01:12:59.008 And that's why I always have nightmares. 01:12:59.174 --> 01:13:04.179 Is it because I've been telling you my story so honestly? 01:13:12.104 --> 01:13:19.277 Or maybe the vengeance of the dead? 01:13:23.615 --> 01:13:28.119 I remember... I said 'Get out of the car'. 01:13:28.286 --> 01:13:32.123 He asked, 'Where are you taking me?'. 01:13:32.415 --> 01:13:37.629 Soon, he refused to keep walking... 01:13:38.755 --> 01:13:43.593 I saw Roshiman bringing me a machete. 01:13:45.803 --> 01:13:53.185 Spontaneously I walked over to him and cut his head off. 01:13:53.394 --> 01:13:59.400 My friends didn't want to look. 01:13:59.567 --> 01:14:03.737 They ran back to the car. 01:14:04.530 --> 01:14:07.866 And I heard this sound... 01:14:12.162 --> 01:14:16.291 His body had fallen down... 01:14:17.501 --> 01:14:21.797 And the eyes in his head were still... 01:14:34.309 --> 01:14:39.105 On the way home, I kept thinking, why didn't I close his eyes? 01:14:39.314 --> 01:14:44.610 All I could think about was why didn't I close his eyes? 01:14:44.777 --> 01:14:50.575 And that is the source of all my nightmares... 01:14:50.783 --> 01:14:57.248 I'm always gazed at by those eyes that I didn't close. 01:14:57.415 --> 01:15:03.671 That's what always disturbs me so very much. 01:16:13.781 --> 01:16:16.575 Slit his throat! 01:16:16.784 --> 01:16:20.495 Cut off his head! 01:16:25.876 --> 01:16:28.295 Hooray! 01:16:47.939 --> 01:16:50.733 Did you take it? Is it good? 01:16:50.942 --> 01:16:52.777 - Thank you. - No, thank you, Sir. 01:16:52.985 --> 01:16:57.198 No. With such a beautiful girl? I should thank you. 01:17:00.076 --> 01:17:05.039 Too bad she bleaches her hair... Makes her look like a whore. 01:17:10.002 --> 01:17:12.588 - Tell him about the car! - What happened? 01:17:12.796 --> 01:17:15.382 There was this girl... 01:17:15.591 --> 01:17:17.676 She sucked off six men - 01:17:17.843 --> 01:17:20.429 - and not a drop of cum on the floor. 01:17:20.637 --> 01:17:23.599 - Six men? - She swallowed it all. 01:17:23.765 --> 01:17:27.769 And after the last guy finishes, she's still sucking - 01:17:27.978 --> 01:17:32.149 - like she wanted more! 01:17:38.989 --> 01:17:46.996 Dear God, make our great organization a pillar of this nation. 01:17:51.042 --> 01:17:55.088 You know the price of the land? 200 million dollars. 01:17:56.339 --> 01:17:59.300 I gave it to the birds. 01:18:01.260 --> 01:18:05.389 So they have a happy life. I'm also happy. 01:18:07.641 --> 01:18:11.061 Everybody's terrified of the paramilitaries. 01:18:12.104 --> 01:18:16.900 So, when a businessman wants land where people are living... 01:18:17.109 --> 01:18:20.779 if he just pays for it, it's expensive. 01:18:20.988 --> 01:18:26.577 But we can solve his problem. 01:18:27.703 --> 01:18:32.958 Because people are terrified of us, when we show up - 01:18:33.125 --> 01:18:37.629 - they say 'Just take the land. Pay what you like.' 01:18:40.924 --> 01:18:44.052 This is a rose. 01:18:44.260 --> 01:18:46.846 Very very limited. 01:18:51.017 --> 01:18:55.104 Elephant. This is very very limited. 01:18:57.482 --> 01:19:01.569 I buy these from every country I visit. 01:19:02.945 --> 01:19:06.240 Hungary 2,250 dollars. 01:19:40.732 --> 01:19:44.736 You've cut off my head... 01:19:44.945 --> 01:19:50.325 You have to be furious, but also sad. 01:19:50.533 --> 01:19:55.580 You have to be angry sad. Sadistic. 01:19:55.788 --> 01:19:58.791 Look at your blood! 01:20:02.587 --> 01:20:06.382 Look what I found in your stomach! 01:20:12.763 --> 01:20:17.893 Look at this! Your liver. 01:20:26.110 --> 01:20:28.529 It's rotten! 01:21:18.327 --> 01:21:23.040 Even in make-up he looks like he's from Ethiopia! 01:21:23.249 --> 01:21:29.088 - Tanzania. Like Idi Amin. - Idi Amin Dada. 01:21:33.967 --> 01:21:40.098 Camera 3 on Citra! Close up on Citra for the opening. 01:21:40.307 --> 01:21:44.436 Everybody ready? Roll the leader! 01:21:48.732 --> 01:21:53.153 Indonesian National Television 'Special Dialogue' 01:21:53.320 --> 01:21:58.032 Welcome back to Indonesian Television's Special Dialogue. 01:21:58.199 --> 01:22:01.870 Today we meet movie theater gangsters who are making a film - 01:22:02.036 --> 01:22:04.163 -to commemorate the crushing of the communists. 01:22:04.372 --> 01:22:08.251 We go straight to the perpetrator and star of the film, Anwar Congo! 01:22:08.459 --> 01:22:11.754 Let's welcome Anwar Congo! 01:22:12.964 --> 01:22:16.884 In those days movie theater gangsters were very well known. 01:22:17.093 --> 01:22:20.471 What's the origin of the word 'gangster'? 01:22:20.679 --> 01:22:24.767 Actually gangster comes from 'free men'. 01:22:24.975 --> 01:22:30.147 That's why we use a special song in our movie. 01:22:30.314 --> 01:22:36.028 A song called 'Born Free.' 01:22:36.195 --> 01:22:39.823 So you brought the communists straight to your office? 01:22:39.990 --> 01:22:47.539 Yes, and after we interrogated them, and decided they shouldn't be alive- 01:22:47.748 --> 01:22:51.918 - we had to kill them. 01:22:52.127 --> 01:22:56.506 And was your method of killing inspired by gangsterfilms? 01:22:56.673 --> 01:22:58.883 Sometimes! 01:22:59.092 --> 01:23:00.844 It's like... 01:23:01.052 --> 01:23:04.264 Amazing! He was inspired by films! 01:23:04.430 --> 01:23:09.936 Each genre had its own method. Like in mafia movies... 01:23:10.144 --> 01:23:16.567 ...they strangle the guy in the car and dump the body. 01:23:16.776 --> 01:23:18.945 So we did that too. 01:23:19.111 --> 01:23:23.199 Which means Anwar and his friends developed - 01:23:23.407 --> 01:23:27.328 - a new, more efficient system for exterminating communists. 01:23:27.536 --> 01:23:32.916 It was more humane, less sadistic, and avoided excessive violence... 01:23:33.083 --> 01:23:37.421 But you also just wiped them out! 01:23:40.632 --> 01:23:47.097 - How many people did he kill? - About 1000. 01:23:47.305 --> 01:23:51.435 How can he sleep? Isn't he haunted? 01:23:51.601 --> 01:23:54.855 - A lot of them went crazy. - Yeah. 01:23:55.063 --> 01:23:58.275 - No, they got rich. - Yeah. 01:23:58.483 --> 01:24:02.195 Rich from stealing. 01:24:02.404 --> 01:24:07.158 But killing all those people made them crazy too. 01:24:08.159 --> 01:24:13.873 But what’s the special meaning of this film for young people? 01:24:14.040 --> 01:24:19.921 Young people must remember their history. 01:24:20.129 --> 01:24:23.924 They must never forget. What's more... 01:24:24.133 --> 01:24:26.802 God must be against communists. 01:24:27.011 --> 01:24:29.472 Yes. God hates communists! 01:24:29.638 --> 01:24:32.975 That's why he's made this film so beautiful! 01:24:33.183 --> 01:24:39.314 According to General Sarwo Edhie 2.5 million communists were killed. 01:24:39.523 --> 01:24:44.862 Why haven’t the victims' children ever tried to take revenge? 01:24:45.070 --> 01:24:51.868 It's not that they don't want to take revenge. They can't! 01:24:52.035 --> 01:24:56.164 Because we'd exterminate them all! 01:25:11.179 --> 01:25:17.810 This is the only film shoot to be visited by a government minister. 01:25:18.019 --> 01:25:25.109 He's coming here just for you, to motivate and support you! 01:25:25.276 --> 01:25:27.820 You should be proud! 01:25:35.494 --> 01:25:38.998 The whole world will see this. London, England! 01:25:39.206 --> 01:25:42.084 Forget Jakarta. Jakarta is nothing! 01:25:47.464 --> 01:25:51.593 Wow! All the killers are here! 01:25:56.973 --> 01:26:00.769 Just improvise and express your anger. 01:26:00.977 --> 01:26:03.104 Scream, 'Crush the communists!' 01:26:03.271 --> 01:26:08.568 - Crush the communists! - Wipe them out! 01:26:08.777 --> 01:26:11.279 Okay let’s try it. 01:26:12.238 --> 01:26:16.326 Attack on Kampung Kolam. Take 1. 01:26:17.535 --> 01:26:21.497 Don't let any communists escape! 01:26:23.624 --> 01:26:27.920 Kill! Kill! Kill the communists! 01:26:29.130 --> 01:26:32.425 Slaughterthem! 01:26:32.591 --> 01:26:35.052 Are you ready to attack? 01:26:35.261 --> 01:26:41.183 Take no prisoners! Destroy them all! 01:26:42.851 --> 01:26:46.105 Burn down their houses! 01:26:46.271 --> 01:26:52.444 Kill the communists! Chop them up! 01:26:52.653 --> 01:26:57.366 Exterminate them to their roots! 01:26:58.742 --> 01:27:06.041 Chop off their heads Burn them! Kill them all! 01:27:06.249 --> 01:27:10.003 Kill! Kill! 01:27:16.593 --> 01:27:21.806 Cut! Cut! Cut! 01:27:22.015 --> 01:27:29.063 Joshua and crew, now I'm speaking as a leader of Pancasila Youth. 01:27:29.230 --> 01:27:35.778 What we’ve just shown is not characteristic of our organization. 01:27:35.945 --> 01:27:40.950 We shouldn't look brutal, like we want to drink people's blood. 01:27:46.413 --> 01:27:53.462 That's dangerous for our organization's image. 01:27:53.629 --> 01:27:58.133 But we must exterminate the communists. 01:27:58.300 --> 01:28:01.136 We must totally wipe them out- 01:28:01.303 --> 01:28:06.266 - but in a more humane way. 01:28:06.474 --> 01:28:11.229 What we just filmed, I felt awful... 01:28:11.438 --> 01:28:14.232 Especially with my image right in the middle of it! 01:28:14.441 --> 01:28:16.860 OK, Joshua? 01:28:17.026 --> 01:28:21.489 This is the true story That's what we all want, right? 01:28:21.698 --> 01:28:24.367 Sure. Sure. 01:28:24.575 --> 01:28:26.786 You know, what we just filmed... 01:28:26.994 --> 01:28:32.375 Don't erase it! Use it to show how ferocious we can be! 01:28:32.542 --> 01:28:37.922 In fact, we can even be worse! 01:28:38.130 --> 01:28:44.345 So, think of it as a simulation of our rage - 01:28:44.553 --> 01:28:49.391 - if anyone disturbs our country 01:28:56.315 --> 01:28:59.818 If they're pretty I'd rape them all. 01:28:59.985 --> 01:29:06.950 Especially back then, when we were the law. 01:29:07.159 --> 01:29:08.577 Fuck 'em! 01:29:08.743 --> 01:29:12.539 Fuck the shit out of everyone I meet. 01:29:12.706 --> 01:29:17.419 Are you a communist woman? 01:29:17.585 --> 01:29:21.214 What are you hiding there? 01:29:21.381 --> 01:29:24.050 That’s the spirit! 01:29:24.259 --> 01:29:29.180 Especially if you get one who's only 14 years old. 01:29:29.389 --> 01:29:30.973 Delicious! 01:29:31.140 --> 01:29:37.230 I'd say it's gonna be hell for you but heaven on earth for me. 01:29:37.438 --> 01:29:40.107 Keep struggling. 01:29:40.316 --> 01:29:43.110 No one wants to be tortured, right? 01:29:43.319 --> 01:29:46.280 If you can save yourself, you should. 01:29:46.489 --> 01:29:50.784 And if you can run away go ahead! 01:29:50.993 --> 01:29:53.120 Attention everybody! 01:29:53.329 --> 01:29:56.999 While you're acting, remember the cameras! 01:29:59.084 --> 01:30:02.879 Ladies, think positively 01:30:03.088 --> 01:30:05.924 if you think positively - 01:30:06.133 --> 01:30:12.013 - your acting will be great and the scene will succeed. 01:30:12.180 --> 01:30:14.224 Positive! Think positive! 01:30:52.344 --> 01:30:55.139 Kill them all! 01:30:57.599 --> 01:31:01.145 Catch him! 01:31:52.862 --> 01:31:57.324 Cut! Cut! Cut! 01:32:01.453 --> 01:32:04.456 Bakti! Bring water! 01:32:23.141 --> 01:32:27.145 Let her rest. 01:32:53.421 --> 01:32:59.593 Febby your acting was great. But stop crying. 01:33:00.844 --> 01:33:07.392 You're embarassing me. Film stars only cry for a moment. 01:33:14.524 --> 01:33:19.529 What I regret... Honestly I never expected it would look this awful. 01:33:27.078 --> 01:33:32.125 My friends kept telling me to act more sadistic - 01:33:32.292 --> 01:33:37.797 - but then I saw the women and children. 01:33:40.049 --> 01:33:43.094 Imagine those children's future. 01:33:43.302 --> 01:33:45.680 They've been tortured... 01:33:45.888 --> 01:33:48.975 Now their houses will be burned down... 01:33:49.141 --> 01:33:52.853 What future do they have? 01:33:53.896 --> 01:33:58.859 They will curse us for the rest of their lives. 01:33:59.068 --> 01:34:02.613 This was so very very very.. 01:35:06.842 --> 01:35:09.386 When you say 'karma'... 01:35:09.595 --> 01:35:14.099 What does it mean for you? What are you afraid of? 01:35:15.601 --> 01:35:23.608 Karma is like a law of nature. 01:35:27.487 --> 01:35:32.200 A law straight from God. 01:35:38.915 --> 01:35:42.043 Imagine, in all this darkness - 01:35:42.210 --> 01:35:49.050 - it's like we're living at the end of the world. 01:35:50.218 --> 01:35:54.639 We look around... There's only darkness. 01:35:58.309 --> 01:36:01.645 It's so very terrifying. 01:36:29.923 --> 01:36:35.553 Hit the table. To frighten me. 01:36:35.762 --> 01:36:39.891 Start by hitting the table. Hard. 01:36:54.405 --> 01:36:58.534 Trying to ban American films in Indonesia? 01:36:58.701 --> 01:37:01.912 What are you trying to do? 01:37:03.748 --> 01:37:05.666 Shut up! 01:37:05.875 --> 01:37:09.962 - What are you trying to do? - Please, sir.. 01:37:10.129 --> 01:37:14.633 Don't get friendly with me! We're not friends! 01:37:14.842 --> 01:37:17.052 Answer the questions! 01:37:17.219 --> 01:37:22.182 Hurry up or I'll break your legs! 01:37:22.391 --> 01:37:25.727 Dana, ask! 01:37:25.894 --> 01:37:29.898 Besides Titi Kuning, where else are you active? 01:37:30.107 --> 01:37:34.486 - Hamparan Perak. - A real big communist. 01:37:35.320 --> 01:37:39.240 Quick! Don't waste our time! 01:37:41.117 --> 01:37:44.454 Lift up your hand or I'll cut it off. 01:37:44.662 --> 01:37:49.000 Hey look! Gold! 01:37:49.167 --> 01:37:53.546 Take off your watch. 01:37:53.755 --> 01:37:57.967 Put it on the table. What else do you have? 01:37:58.134 --> 01:38:01.596 A ring? Gold? 01:38:01.804 --> 01:38:05.725 Talk or I cut your face. 01:38:05.891 --> 01:38:09.895 - Talk. - Tell us everything! 01:38:10.062 --> 01:38:15.609 - Please, don't... - I won't, but you talk! 01:38:15.776 --> 01:38:18.821 Talk... 01:38:19.780 --> 01:38:22.074 Cut. 01:38:38.298 --> 01:38:40.967 Okay let's do it. 01:38:54.105 --> 01:39:02.113 I place this medal around your neck. 01:39:47.240 --> 01:39:52.996 - Are you alright? - I can't do that again. 01:40:16.435 --> 01:40:20.397 Get him some water. 01:40:24.234 --> 01:40:28.322 Have some water. 01:41:07.026 --> 01:41:12.406 We shoved wood in their anus until they died. 01:41:13.658 --> 01:41:17.578 We crushed their necks with wood. We hung them. 01:41:17.787 --> 01:41:22.500 We strangled them with wire. We cut off their heads. 01:41:22.708 --> 01:41:25.669 We ran them over with cars. 01:41:29.423 --> 01:41:31.592 We were allowed to do it. 01:41:31.800 --> 01:41:36.889 And the proof is, we murdered people and were never punished. 01:41:43.019 --> 01:41:46.815 The people we killed... There's nothing to be done about it. 01:41:47.023 --> 01:41:50.110 They have to accept it. 01:41:50.527 --> 01:41:55.532 Maybel Im just trying to make myself feel better but it works: 01:41:55.740 --> 01:42:00.828 I've never felt guilty, never been depressed, never had nightmares. 01:43:19.322 --> 01:43:27.329 For executing me and sending me to heaven. 01:43:27.580 --> 01:43:33.585 I thank you a thousand times, for everything. 01:44:04.908 --> 01:44:08.661 This is great, Joshua. This is very good. 01:44:08.870 --> 01:44:14.709 I never imagined I could make something so great. 01:44:16.544 --> 01:44:19.964 One thing that makes me so proud - 01:44:20.172 --> 01:44:24.302 - is how the waterfall expresses such deep feelings! 01:44:28.431 --> 01:44:36.105 You know the scene where I'm strangled with wire? 01:44:38.482 --> 01:44:41.777 - Do you have it here? - Where you're strangled? 01:44:41.985 --> 01:44:44.613 Please put it on. 01:44:49.993 --> 01:44:51.995 Yan? 01:44:52.162 --> 01:44:55.874 I want him to watch this... 01:45:02.088 --> 01:45:05.967 - Yan? - He's in bed. 01:45:07.469 --> 01:45:12.181 Yan, watch the scene where grandpa is tortured and killed. 01:45:12.390 --> 01:45:17.020 Ami, come see grandpa beaten up and bleeding. 01:45:17.228 --> 01:45:19.272 But this is too violent. 01:45:19.439 --> 01:45:23.234 Watch this. Grandpa gets beaten up. 01:45:24.735 --> 01:45:27.113 Turn up the volume. 01:45:27.279 --> 01:45:30.825 But this is too violent, Anwar Are you sure? 01:45:30.991 --> 01:45:33.619 Yes, it's fine. Will you be scared, Yan? 01:45:39.959 --> 01:45:43.879 This is only a film... Look at that. 01:45:44.630 --> 01:45:49.551 Grandpa looks so sad, doesn't he, Yan? 01:45:49.718 --> 01:45:52.095 So scary 01:45:53.138 --> 01:45:58.018 it's so sad, isn't it? That's your grandpa. 01:45:59.102 --> 01:46:04.524 That's grandpa being beaten up by the fat guy. 01:46:04.733 --> 01:46:07.777 Grandpa's head is smashed. 01:46:45.230 --> 01:46:50.235 Did the people I tortured feel the way I do here? 01:47:00.912 --> 01:47:05.208 I can feel what the people I tortured felt. 01:47:05.417 --> 01:47:13.425 Because here my dignity has been destroyed... 01:47:14.300 --> 01:47:18.304 ...and then fear comes, right there and then. 01:47:18.471 --> 01:47:23.559 All the terror suddenly possessed my body 01:47:23.768 --> 01:47:28.439 it surrounded me, and possessed me. 01:47:29.440 --> 01:47:35.738 Actually the people you tortured felt far worse- 01:47:35.946 --> 01:47:40.951 - because you know it's only a film. They knew they were being killed. 01:47:44.330 --> 01:47:48.333 But I can feel it, Josh. Really I feel it. 01:47:48.542 --> 01:47:54.006 Or have I sinned? 01:47:58.677 --> 01:48:03.265 I did this to so many people, Josh. 01:48:04.975 --> 01:48:08.895 Is it all coming back to me? 01:48:15.068 --> 01:48:21.950 I really hope it won't. I don't want it to, Josh. 01:49:31.267 --> 01:49:36.272 This is where we tortured and killed the people we captured. 01:49:59.503 --> 01:50:02.339 I know it was wrong - 01:50:02.965 --> 01:50:06.677 - but I had to do it. 01:51:16.119 --> 01:51:19.247 This is... 01:51:22.709 --> 01:51:27.797 This is one of the easiest ways to take a human life. 01:51:31.759 --> 01:51:34.220 And this... 01:51:35.638 --> 01:51:40.601 This was used to take away.. 01:51:43.854 --> 01:51:47.274 ...the human beings we killed. 01:51:47.483 --> 01:51:50.319 Because without this... 01:51:51.737 --> 01:51:55.699 ...maybe people would know.