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Dialogue: 0,0:00:16.70,0:00:19.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[SARAH SZE ] This is a project I'm working on\Nfor the High Line.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:21.95,0:00:25.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was scheduled to be demolitioned.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.29,0:00:30.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People in the neighborhood ended up suing\Nthe city to keep it and make it a park.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:39.01,0:00:42.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I really like this idea that natural wildlife
Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.18,0:00:45.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,survives in this intense metropolis.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:45.25,0:00:47.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They didn't change the space that much.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.55,0:00:49.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They really just framed the wildlife
Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.88,0:00:52.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that grew there naturally over the years.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.15,0:00:58.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The piece that I conceived was a kind of habitat.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:58.45,0:01:01.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You have all of these birds, butterflies,\Ninsects there,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.62,0:01:03.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I wanted to make a location
Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.02,0:01:05.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where you would observe them on the High Line.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.07,0:01:10.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I did tons of research.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:10.22,0:01:12.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The place that I really liked working with
Dialogue: 0,0:01:12.16,0:01:14.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the Cornell Ornithology Lab.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:15.07,0:01:17.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They do these incredible urban wildlife projects,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:17.46,0:01:18.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they were really helpful
Dialogue: 0,0:01:18.81,0:01:20.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to talk about how this would work
Dialogue: 0,0:01:20.47,0:01:23.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what would come to it, what might not\Ncome to it.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:23.83,0:01:24.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're really trying to figure out
Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.89,0:01:28.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how to get someone to look and observe for\Nten minutes,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.89,0:01:31.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they had said, you know, "Ten minutes\Nof observation
Dialogue: 0,0:01:31.72,0:01:34.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is an incredibly long time for a person,"
Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.19,0:01:37.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this idea of slowing down and really observing,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.05,0:01:39.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it's a really interesting idea\Nalso for visual art.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.16,0:01:52.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're dealing with nature.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:52.30,0:01:54.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We don't know what's gonna happen.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:54.80,0:01:56.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Will the birds nest there, or will they not?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:57.31,0:01:59.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let's say nothing happens.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:59.06,0:02:01.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It needed to be interesting as a sculpture.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:03.03,0:02:06.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The thing that made me interested in the piece\Nas a sculpture was this idea
Dialogue: 0,0:02:06.84,0:02:10.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I'm gonna put the sculpture in a location\Nwhere you have to walk through it.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:11.73,0:02:16.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The walk itself becomes like a negative space\Nin the sculpture and that you have this
Dialogue: 0,0:02:16.44,0:02:18.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this very dynamic experience of it,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.96,0:02:21.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that you see it from far away,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:21.27,0:02:23.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then in perspective, it grows,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.13,0:02:25.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then you actually are in the interior\Nof it,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:25.66,0:02:27.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then you exit.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.73,0:02:32.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think the high line is very beautifully\Ndesigned.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.12,0:02:36.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are all these different areas\Nwhere you can stop and look, and it frames the city.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.23,0:02:48.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- And I was thinking it should be metal\Nlike it's like a little it's almost like a petri dish.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.83,0:02:52.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a one-to-one scale model\Nof what I'll have fabricated.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.28,0:02:56.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'd like to have the pieces feel\Nas if they're put together
Dialogue: 0,0:02:56.52,0:02:59.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Intuitively by hand in the moment,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:59.63,0:03:02.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it was important to build something in\Nthe studio
Dialogue: 0,0:03:02.25,0:03:05.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where I could start feeling, "This needs to\Nbe more dense,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.33,0:03:09.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the size need to grow," and play around,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:09.30,0:03:12.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have the idea of play and flexibility in the\Nmaking.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.79,0:03:23.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One thing that was interesting about this\Nproject for me
Dialogue: 0,0:03:23.17,0:03:25.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was that it was very hard to draw.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.47,0:03:28.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I did all of these different versions of this\Nidea
Dialogue: 0,0:03:28.98,0:03:30.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of being split down the center,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.89,0:03:33.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to figure out in space how this would work
Dialogue: 0,0:03:33.19,0:03:35.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because the promenade cuts the piece in half,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:35.99,0:03:37.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this is the one that I chose,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:37.58,0:03:38.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,partially because it has
Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.94,0:03:41.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this spiraling up that's surprising.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.19,0:03:44.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's a ball that actually fits.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.33,0:03:45.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can use this.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.90,0:03:49.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The negative space is actually round,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:49.61,0:03:52.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you don't really realize it until you\Nget into it,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:52.11,0:03:54.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so it was built around a ball.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.47,0:04:03.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a really simple jig to actually figure\Nout
Dialogue: 0,0:04:03.41,0:04:06.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a very complex equation,\Nwhich is how does how does this neg--
Dialogue: 0,0:04:06.92,0:04:10.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we want to carve out a ball, how do you\Ndo it?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:10.16,0:04:11.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is just this is just the radius,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:11.99,0:04:13.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it's the radius at any angle.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:13.92,0:04:17.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is a center of the piece, kind of a Palladian\Nidea.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:17.80,0:04:19.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even if you don't consciously realize you're\Nin
Dialogue: 0,0:04:19.90,0:04:22.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're in a negative space of a ball,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.40,0:04:26.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it has this kind of sense of being surrounded.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.50,0:04:33.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Portable planetarium was a piece I did
Dialogue: 0,0:04:33.90,0:04:35.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that actually was the orb,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.66,0:04:37.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it was scaled very much to this idea
Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.05,0:04:38.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you saw it as an orb,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.72,0:04:40.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and as you got closer and closer,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:40.51,0:04:43.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you moved in, and you were surrounded,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:43.07,0:04:44.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so you went from seeing it as an exterior
Dialogue: 0,0:04:44.96,0:04:46.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to being in its interior.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:55.100,0:04:58.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'll photograph this piece over and over.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:58.74,0:05:01.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of the ideas I had about photography
Dialogue: 0,0:05:01.34,0:05:02.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in relationship to the sculpture
Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.69,0:05:06.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was that the photographs really\Nbecome the memory of the piece.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:07.33,0:05:09.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm trying not to just document them
Dialogue: 0,0:05:09.53,0:05:12.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but to see what I can do in a photograph
Dialogue: 0,0:05:12.65,0:05:14.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that tells us something different
Dialogue: 0,0:05:14.91,0:05:18.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or emphasizes what's sort of essential about\Nthe piece.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:23.88,0:05:26.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This piece is playing with one-point perspective
Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.62,0:05:29.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to represent, to trick our eyes into seeing\Ndeep space,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:29.06,0:05:30.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so it's kind of absurd
Dialogue: 0,0:05:30.22,0:05:33.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to actually use that trick in real space,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:33.35,0:05:35.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but then it's interesting to photograph,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:35.16,0:05:36.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then flatten it out again.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:40.10,0:05:43.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For me, it becomes more like a Russian Constructivist\Ndrawing
Dialogue: 0,0:05:43.09,0:05:44.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or a Futurist painting
Dialogue: 0,0:05:45.36,0:05:48.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In that, it's describing speed and movement
Dialogue: 0,0:05:48.38,0:05:51.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but entirely on a flat, still plane.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:51.63,0:05:54.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's also funny because these almost become
Dialogue: 0,0:05:54.07,0:05:56.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,computer images when they're flattened out.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:56.72,0:05:59.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're so crisp, right?
Dialogue: 0,0:05:59.27,0:06:02.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because they're so exactly in perspective,\Nactually.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.20,0:06:04.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ grinder buzzes ]
Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.57,0:06:10.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ welding torch crackling ]
Dialogue: 0,0:06:10.64,0:06:12.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's this kind of scaffolding
Dialogue: 0,0:06:12.41,0:06:14.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's gonna be the base of the piece.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:14.90,0:06:15.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then there are these elements
Dialogue: 0,0:06:15.97,0:06:17.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that each have a different function,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:17.86,0:06:23.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's water, housing, and food,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:23.27,0:06:24.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there are these different locations,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:24.33,0:06:26.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they're based partially aesthetically
Dialogue: 0,0:06:26.43,0:06:29.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and partially on research and practical need
Dialogue: 0,0:06:29.27,0:06:31.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for how this might work.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:33.02,0:06:34.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Originally, I built these strings
Dialogue: 0,0:06:34.62,0:06:36.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as a jig to measure.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:36.66,0:06:38.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Right now, all of these boxes aligned
Dialogue: 0,0:06:38.09,0:06:42.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,should be parallel on the sides to these strings.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:42.55,0:06:44.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All of the fronts and the backs
Dialogue: 0,0:06:44.12,0:06:46.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,should be parallel to the blue tape.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:47.09,0:06:49.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After I built it, I thought, "I like this\Nlanguage."
Dialogue: 0,0:06:49.90,0:06:51.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You feel the actual thinking process
Dialogue: 0,0:06:51.94,0:06:54.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of trying to solve a problem.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:56.61,0:07:00.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This string system was, in and of itself,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:00.31,0:07:02.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,aesthetically very interesting,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:02.19,0:07:04.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So then this is gonna become part of the piece.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:08.52,0:07:09.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was thinking it should be metal.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:09.84,0:07:11.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Swivel down
Dialogue: 0,0:07:11.17,0:07:13.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- These clamps may be completely decorative.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:13.58,0:07:15.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They may not be doing anything,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:15.38,0:07:17.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but they signify a kind of flexibility.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:17.00,0:07:18.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- To make the right angle.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:18.96,0:07:21.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, the only problem is, this is gonna-
Dialogue: 0,0:07:34.94,0:07:37.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ grinder buzzes ]
Dialogue: 0,0:07:40.57,0:07:42.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ drill whirring ]
Dialogue: 0,0:07:43.37,0:07:45.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Scale is crucial when you're working outdoors,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:46.86,0:07:48.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,especially when you're in Manhattan.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:48.35,0:07:51.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The spectacle of space, of scale, of information
Dialogue: 0,0:07:51.57,0:07:54.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is so high that the size is crucial.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:03.02,0:08:04.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm interested to take a public piece
Dialogue: 0,0:08:04.53,0:08:06.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and have it feel intimate,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:07.56,0:08:08.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then when you get there,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:08.19,0:08:11.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you feel slightly embraced by the piece itself,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:11.52,0:08:15.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,slightly nested, which plays on the idea of\Nthe habitat.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.85,0:08:24.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm always thinking about how the frame can\Nbleed out
Dialogue: 0,0:08:24.84,0:08:26.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into the location.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:27.59,0:08:31.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of the ideas in this piece that even though\Nit's outdoors,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:31.07,0:08:33.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it still has this quality that it's mutable,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:33.70,0:08:35.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,changeable, that you could come back in a\Nweek,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:35.51,0:08:37.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it would be configured differently.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:38.71,0:08:41.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- This is correct, and that's correct,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:41.07,0:08:43.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's correct for what I have.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:45.64,0:08:49.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ power tools whirring ]
Dialogue: 0,0:08:54.60,0:08:56.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I studied architecture and painting,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:56.07,0:08:59.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I came to sculpture from those disciplines.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:00.00,0:09:01.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm always thinking,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:01.09,0:09:04.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"What can you do in a sculpture that you can't\Ndo in a drawing?
Dialogue: 0,0:09:04.03,0:09:07.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What can you do in a building that you can't\Ndo in a print?"
Dialogue: 0,0:09:09.57,0:09:12.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My father is an architect, so I grew up around
Dialogue: 0,0:09:12.45,0:09:16.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,models, plans, looking at construction sites,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:16.82,0:09:18.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and also with his eye of just always talking
Dialogue: 0,0:09:18.96,0:09:21.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about buildings and cities.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:25.92,0:09:26.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- That looks good.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:26.97,0:09:28.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, that looks good.\NThat one looks right.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:29.31,0:09:33.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This one looks wrong, but, I mean,\NThat's the one that I made up, so...
Dialogue: 0,0:09:50.33,0:09:51.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ drill whirring ]
Dialogue: 0,0:09:56.73,0:10:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, 'cause it that creates, like, a...\N[ imitates ticking ]
Dialogue: 0,0:10:00.00,0:10:02.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A rhythm from there to there to there. It's good.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:25.19,0:10:29.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ power tools whirring ]
Dialogue: 0,0:10:32.38,0:10:33.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My whole body of work
Dialogue: 0,0:10:33.39,0:10:37.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has this kind of flexible, mutable quality.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:37.09,0:10:40.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It has the rawness of a studio or the rawness\Nof a laboratory
Dialogue: 0,0:10:40.22,0:10:44.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where things could happen or things could\Nfall apart.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:48.00,0:10:50.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think about the first view of a piece
Dialogue: 0,0:10:50.57,0:10:52.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being like the first line in a novel.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:53.53,0:10:56.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you leave, what's the last part of the novel?
Dialogue: 0,0:10:56.27,0:10:58.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where do you maintain your viewer's interest?
Dialogue: 0,0:10:58.66,0:11:00.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where do you challenge them?
Dialogue: 0,0:11:00.24,0:11:01.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where's the catharsis?
Dialogue: 0,0:11:01.78,0:11:04.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that it is really a kind of narrative story
Dialogue: 0,0:11:04.37,0:11:06.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of movement through space.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:10.66,0:11:13.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I talk about the idea of choreographed experience
Dialogue: 0,0:11:13.40,0:11:15.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the viewer through the space.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:15.95,0:11:18.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You become aware of your body in relation\Nto the work.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:23.72,0:11:25.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of the ideas from the very beginning
Dialogue: 0,0:11:25.64,0:11:28.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in terms of the materials I use was accessibility.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:28.90,0:11:30.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A lot of the materials
Dialogue: 0,0:11:30.11,0:11:32.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were things that you could get at a dollar\Nstore.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:32.46,0:11:34.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're very generic.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:36.00,0:11:38.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The cultural value, the monetary value
Dialogue: 0,0:11:38.37,0:11:40.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would be very low,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:40.05,0:11:41.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then put them in a location
Dialogue: 0,0:11:41.74,0:11:44.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where that became very high.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:44.25,0:11:47.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the shifts in scale were really interesting\Nto me,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:47.23,0:11:49.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,literally, in terms of space,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:49.18,0:11:52.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but also in terms of the profound and the\Nmundane,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:52.93,0:11:54.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the fleeting and the permanent,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:54.97,0:11:57.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a piece that's always teetering.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:15.47,0:12:18.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tokyo was a very hard piece to photograph, film.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:18.53,0:12:21.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's--you have to see it in person, really.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:27.51,0:12:29.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some of my work is really about
Dialogue: 0,0:12:29.08,0:12:32.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,using spaces that go unnoticed or unoccupied.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:34.09,0:12:36.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In a museum that's designed to see work,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:36.85,0:12:37.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to then put it in a place
Dialogue: 0,0:12:37.85,0:12:40.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like the ventilation by the window
Dialogue: 0,0:12:41.15,0:12:43.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is kind of a nice opportunity.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:29.03,0:14:33.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'd very much like the experience of viewing to be one of discovery,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:33.53,0:14:36.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you don't walk in, something is presented,\Nand it's framed, and it says,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:36.88,0:14:38.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"This is important; I'm art."
Dialogue: 0,0:14:39.35,0:14:41.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Often, with my work, it'll be in a corner,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:41.03,0:14:42.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or it'll be behind a stair.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:42.44,0:14:44.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It'll be near the freight elevator
Dialogue: 0,0:14:44.46,0:14:47.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that your experience of first is, \N"Whatis this?"
Dialogue: 0,0:14:49.10,0:14:52.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For me, most interesting art always has that\Nquestion in it.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:52.38,0:14:55.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It always questions what art is.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:15.28,0:16:18.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ crowd chattering ]
Dialogue: 0,0:16:21.61,0:16:23.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Are we trying to get the birds to come?
Dialogue: 0,0:16:23.51,0:16:25.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I don't know. Let's ask.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:26.57,0:16:28.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- What are what are we doing here?
Dialogue: 0,0:16:29.38,0:16:32.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Well, it's an artwork, but it's also a bird\Nfeeder and a bird habitat.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:32.87,0:16:34.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- And birds eat oranges?
Dialogue: 0,0:16:34.71,0:16:36.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes, orioles eat oranges.\NYep.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:36.56,0:16:37.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Very interesting.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:37.80,0:16:39.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yep. And butterflies and bees too.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:39.64,0:16:40.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- It's a beautiful piece,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:40.80,0:16:43.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I couldn't understand the fruit on it.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:43.65,0:16:46.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Well, it's a sculpture work, but it's a bird\Nhabitat.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:46.32,0:16:48.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- That's what I told you.\NIt's for the birds.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:48.59,0:16:49.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- For the birds.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:49.52,0:16:51.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ both laugh ]
Dialogue: 0,0:17:00.30,0:17:03.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Somebody's put their own seeds in,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:03.04,0:17:04.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'cause we don't use these seeds.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:04.88,0:17:05.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of the things that happens
Dialogue: 0,0:17:05.89,0:17:08.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in my pieces that aren't--
Dialogue: 0,0:17:08.49,0:17:10.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have nothing to do with leaving things or\Nfor birds,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:10.60,0:17:13.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but is that people, actually, in museums will\Nleave
Dialogue: 0,0:17:13.80,0:17:16.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,objects from their pockets in the piece.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:23.20,0:17:24.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- And put more water.\N- Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:24.91,0:17:26.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- And who's the artist?\NWho did that?
Dialogue: 0,0:17:26.12,0:17:26.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I'm the artist.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:26.84,0:17:28.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Oh, you're the artist. Congratulations.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:28.42,0:17:29.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's really beautiful.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:29.70,0:17:31.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,C'est la dame actuelle qui tu fait.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:31.50,0:17:33.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- For this particular project,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:33.03,0:17:35.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I did a lot of research on birds and what\Nbirds like
Dialogue: 0,0:17:35.44,0:17:37.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what could different kind of things
Dialogue: 0,0:17:37.28,0:17:38.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,could attract different kind of birds.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:38.99,0:17:40.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Which birds are you attracting in here?
Dialogue: 0,0:17:40.86,0:17:43.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Well, these ones are this is sort of the-
Dialogue: 0,0:17:43.07,0:17:45.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a very good basic bird seed just to use.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:45.84,0:17:47.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Use for any bird?\N- Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:47.63,0:17:50.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- And is it going to stay for a long time?\N- One year. Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:50.63,0:17:51.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- One year. Wow.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:52.68,0:17:54.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- So that is doing an experiment at the same\Ntime?
Dialogue: 0,0:17:54.47,0:17:55.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Exactly.\N- That's beautiful.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:55.51,0:17:56.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- That's exactly right.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:56.26,0:17:57.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's an experiment.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:57.77,0:17:59.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Thank you.\N- Sure.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:59.00,0:18:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Au revoir.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:00.46,0:18:01.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Au revoir.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:01.90,0:18:02.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Say tres bon.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:02.64,0:18:03.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Tres bon.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:03.28,0:18:04.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Merci.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:04.46,0:18:05.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- It looks like a birdhouse.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:05.60,0:18:06.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Cute.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:10.57,0:18:12.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Discovered a new use for oranges:
Dialogue: 0,0:18:12.82,0:18:15.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wiping away bird poop.\N[ laughs ]
Dialogue: 0,0:18:16.59,0:18:17.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:18.22,0:18:19.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:19.07,0:18:21.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How did I make it?\NThat's a good question.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:21.05,0:18:24.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what I did was, I made the entire thing
Dialogue: 0,0:18:24.45,0:18:27.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a model, so all of this I made in wood,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:27.50,0:18:29.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and these were all made in cardboard,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:29.39,0:18:32.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we used we put we put all of these strings\Nhere
Dialogue: 0,0:18:32.30,0:18:36.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as a guide so we could figure out\None-point perspective.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:36.12,0:18:37.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,See all these?
Dialogue: 0,0:18:37.46,0:18:39.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They've been eating like crazy, and we've\Nbeen refilling them,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:39.47,0:18:41.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they also come for the water too.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:42.00,0:18:43.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It'll be different every season.\N- Cool.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:43.24,0:18:43.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Thank you.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:44.91,0:18:48.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- You put oranges there, you'll get \NBaltimore Orioles.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:48.28,0:18:49.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yeah, that's what we're that's what we're hoping.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:49.96,0:18:51.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I heard there's a whole bunch in Brooklyn,\Nbut not--
Dialogue: 0,0:18:51.92,0:18:54.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They don't usually have them on the High Line,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:54.44,0:18:56.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But there's oranges, and there's apples.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:56.67,0:18:58.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Oh.\N- Also, it's just nice for color.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:58.76,0:18:59.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Thanks.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:01.83,0:19:04.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Oh, there's another one flying in.\NThere you go.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:11.16,0:19:13.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're interested.\NThey ask questions.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:13.11,0:19:14.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It just blends in with the environment,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:14.71,0:19:16.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,blends in with the pathway.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:16.38,0:19:18.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're not questioning why it's there
Dialogue: 0,0:19:18.21,0:19:20.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the same way that you often have with public art.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:20.49,0:19:23.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know? That's good. \N[ laughs ]
Dialogue: 0,0:19:24.00,0:19:25.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I love bumblebees!
Dialogue: 0,0:19:25.82,0:19:27.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Cause I saw them!
Dialogue: 0,0:19:27.59,0:19:29.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I love bumblebees!
Dialogue: 0,0:19:49.75,0:19:55.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪ ♪
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