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Based on the reports on migration, a flow
of refugees puts Europe under pressure,

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so that you get the impression
that the world ...

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Excuse me, what did you say
was wrong with Europe?

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Europe is in a refugee crisis.

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- Did you say under pressure?
- Yes?

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- There is no pressure.
- No pressure?

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That's what Merkel
and your prime minister are saying.

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This remains to be seen,

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but it is a part of the world
with a lot of resources.

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And then you have to decide 
how much you will or won't help.

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I am not naive, I won't get involved
in the political debate.

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But it surely hasn't been
that many refugees,

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compared to the amount
Europe could admit.

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And the next question is
if you want to or not.

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And this is a political question.

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But with the population increase
that is happening in Africa, for example.

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One prognosis says there will be
four billion Africans in 2100.

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Europe will be under pressure.

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No. This will open 
export opportunities for Europe.

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There will be enormous chances 
for Danish companies to export goods.

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This is a promising economic future

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and the bosses 
of the big companies can see it.

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The banks see it, too.
People are investing in Africa now.

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But a part of Africa 
belongs to the poorest of all.

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It's like this,

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the bottom billion needs support.

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But these ones have come a long way.
They don't need support.

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They need a fabric factory
where they can work.

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They can build furniture
or Danish designs.

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They will contribute 
to the world's economy.

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But the image you are painting,
based on facts and statistics,

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isn't this something 
that can be abused politically?

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We have seen in many countries

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that even statistics
can be interpreted politically.

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I am not talking about statistics.
I am talking about reality.

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I am not talking about statistics.

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They are like the transmission
in the car that you are driving.

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I'm talking about reality,
the real people that exist

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and what they do.

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I am saying that most girls
in this world attend school.

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One of ten doesn't go to school,
or one in seven doesn't go to school.

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This is not statistics.
It's about girls.

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There's this notion
that numbers are something else.

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It's exactly like money.
Money is an opportunity, a resource.

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if you want to understand the world,
you have to grasp the order of magnitude.

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And strangely enough,
the big company bosses understand it.

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Novo – there's a fantastic Danish
pharmaceutical company.

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They don't just export into the richest
countries, but the whole way down.

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They need Danish medication
all the way to here.

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This policy works superbly for them.

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Open yourself up
with newly developed drugs

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that you can sell to the whole world.

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I understand what you are saying,
but from a media perspective,

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not just here, but the media in general,

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so many media report 
about the present state of the world.

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And right now that's war, conflict,
chaos, riots and many negative ...

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No. No, no, no. That's just wrong.
Straight out wrong.

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There was a fantastic election in Nigeria,

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a democratic election 
in Africa's largest nation.

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A mediocre government was replaced
with a very competent leader,

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Mohamed, the new one, who received support
from the entire population.

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There was a fantastic election
last year in Indonesia.

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Look at the progress India has made.

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Yesterday, India declared 
it was free of tetanus.

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But Nigeria is in a terror war
with Boko Haram.

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Yes, a small part of Nigeria. 
Not the rest.

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Nigeria has a fast economic growth
and decreasing child mortality.

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If you choose to only look
at my shoe instead of at me,

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and it's an ugly shoe, 
that's just a part of me.

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You see a different part
if you choose to show my face.

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You show a little part
and call it the world.

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It is important to show the big changes,
that girls go to school,

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that children receive vaccines,
that most people have electricity at home,

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that humans are able professionals
all over the world.

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That's important to show,

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but that change happens so slowly
that it doesn't show up in the news.

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But can you not argue that
the negative focus of media on stories

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that you say is only
a part of the big picture

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is helping to start a positive development

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because it makes politicians
and volunteer organizations

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want to improve the situation?

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You can't use media 
if you want to understand the world.

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You have a point there!

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You need a basic school education.

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And then, you have to follow up
on some basic facts.

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That's why we have more than media.
Books are published about this.

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We have other resources
for further education and training.

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You need to have a view 
on the world that's correct.

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If you believe that the larger part
of the world's population is very poor,

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that the girls don't attend school,
that children are not vaccinated,

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and that they are trying to get

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into these rich countries as refugees,

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then you don't have a clue.

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You have to understand that
there are countries of all levels,

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and that most of them 
are somewhere in the middle.

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They go to school, they are vaccinated,
and they have two-child families.

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You mentioned population growth.

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The number of children on Earth
has stopped rising.

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The number of children on Earth
has stopped rising,

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because most people
are using contraceptives.

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And Danish journalists didn't know this
when I asked them.

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You talked to my colleagues.

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They would do well to learn it!

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I can see the fire in your eyes,
because this is a big story.

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What have we missed?

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No clue.

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You have to be critical.

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Everybody has to be critical,
from time to time,

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and think about
what they are doing.

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You people do a lot of things well.

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You give a great insight into people.

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You have a great way 
to convey feelings.

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But with facts ...

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You are good 
with facts of concrete events,

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But you are bad at the big picture.

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What we have learned in school
is not being updated.

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What we learned when we were 15 or 20
stays with us for our whole life,

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and it's no good,
with the changes we see today.

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You have said that there's a mix
of ignorance and arrogance.

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How does arrogance play into this?

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There is a kind of notion that India
won't become like Europe.

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I often use a video called

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"The magical washing machine".

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There are many in Europe

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who cannot imagine that every family
in the world would have a washing machine.

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Yet at the same time, 
they are using a washing machine.

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I talked to environmentalists

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who are very involved
in protecting the environment

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and stopping climate change,
which is what I want, too.

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I am just as involved as they are.

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But they say: Not everybody 
can have a washing machine and car.

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Maybe they don't have a car themselves,
but they do have a washing machine.

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You can't say:

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"You can't have a washing machine,
but I'll have one."

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A world like that won't work,

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and therefore we have to make
smart washing machines

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that use less water and energy,
and environment-friendly chemicals.

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And the bosses of the largest
washing machine factories get that.

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They say: We'll make 
smarter washing machines.

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We will make them cheaper.

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We will have iPhone washing machines,
as smart as a mobile phone.

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But isn't that a long-term thought?

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If you look at how the world's riches
are distributed,

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you can still see an enormous difference

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between the small, rich, old
and mostly Western world and the rest.

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This is the image the media draw up.

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You are totally wrong!

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Thanks! How am I wrong?

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It's wrong because the people on Earth
who can take a plane on their holidays,

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the ones on this economic level,

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about half of them 
lives in the Western world.

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There is no big difference,
that what I'm saying,

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most people live in the middle.

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Here are the poorest, 
they are like Denmark in 1850.

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And over here,
it's like Denmark in 1950.

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Denmark wasn't doing so bad then.

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And these people live somewhere
in the middle.

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And they are moving quite fast.

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And you talk of them 
like they weren't there!

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This is just totally wrong.

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There is a large center here,
similar to Denmark in the 20th century.

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They have bikes, they have electricity,
they have two children,

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they use condoms,
they are modern people,

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but they earn low wages.

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Many of them are good workers.

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They would like to go abroad and earn 
some more now that they're good workers.

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How do you know that?
What do you base your knowledge on?

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I am just using normal statistics
from the World Bank and the UN,

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they are not controversial.

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This is not a thing you can discuss,
I am right and you are wrong.