[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:05.19,0:00:06.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Thank you for your ministry. Dialogue: 0,0:00:06.85,0:00:09.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've been watching the YouTube Q&A videos Dialogue: 0,0:00:09.94,0:00:15.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I would like to direct a question. Dialogue: 0,0:00:15.88,0:00:20.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am a 25 year old virgin Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.22,0:00:23.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a born again Christian. Dialogue: 0,0:00:23.62,0:00:27.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was raised in a strict, sheltered, Dialogue: 0,0:00:27.58,0:00:30.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and naive household which made me Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.91,0:00:35.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,despise premarital sex \Neven before I was saved. Dialogue: 0,0:00:35.44,0:00:39.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I haven't had a sexually sinful past. Dialogue: 0,0:00:39.57,0:00:41.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm in no way, shape, or form trying to Dialogue: 0,0:00:41.83,0:00:43.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,brag about my works, Dialogue: 0,0:00:43.53,0:00:48.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I acknowledge that my \Nsheer existence was sinful. Dialogue: 0,0:00:48.34,0:00:51.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I might not have had \Na bad past like others, Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.72,0:00:54.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I acknowledge that \NI deserve to go to hell Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.84,0:00:58.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that I'm only saved \Nby the grace of God. Dialogue: 0,0:00:58.77,0:01:04.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,From experience, I have observed..." Dialogue: 0,0:01:04.36,0:01:06.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now listen to this: Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.43,0:01:11.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"From experience, I have observed Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.38,0:01:16.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the most mature Christians Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.11,0:01:18.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are the ones that have had Dialogue: 0,0:01:18.72,0:01:24.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a very immoral past. Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.14,0:01:29.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is backed up by \Nthe verse in Luke 7:47." Dialogue: 0,0:01:29.85,0:01:31.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Somebody look that up. Dialogue: 0,0:01:31.31,0:01:40.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Luke 7:47. Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.03,0:01:42.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whoever gets that, go ahead and read it. Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.50,0:01:44.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Therefore, I tell you, her sins, Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.94,0:01:47.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which are many are forgiven, Dialogue: 0,0:01:47.25,0:01:49.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for she loved much. Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.09,0:01:53.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But he who is forgiven \Nlittle loves little." Dialogue: 0,0:01:53.08,0:01:55.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, let's think about that. Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.06,0:02:01.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now he's making this observation: Dialogue: 0,0:02:01.10,0:02:03.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I've observed that the \Nmost mature Christians Dialogue: 0,0:02:03.61,0:02:06.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are the ones that have \Nhad a very immoral past." Dialogue: 0,0:02:06.82,0:02:09.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he says not only from his experience - Dialogue: 0,0:02:09.86,0:02:14.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he says my experience \Nis backed up by Scripture. Dialogue: 0,0:02:14.10,0:02:20.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he refers to that text right there. Dialogue: 0,0:02:20.89,0:02:22.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then he goes on to say, Dialogue: 0,0:02:22.04,0:02:23.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"The more you have sinned, Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.84,0:02:25.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the more you're forgiven. Dialogue: 0,0:02:25.27,0:02:26.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The more you're forgiven, Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.47,0:02:27.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the more you love God, Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.59,0:02:30.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and therefore, the more mature you become. Dialogue: 0,0:02:30.70,0:02:34.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've been dealing with a cloud \Nover my head regarding this. Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.19,0:02:36.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know that sin is wrong no matter what, Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.58,0:02:39.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but sometimes I feel like \Nbeing sexually active Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.43,0:02:41.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,before I was saved Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.25,0:02:46.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would have put me in a \Nbetter spiritual position now." Dialogue: 0,0:02:46.23,0:02:50.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, listen, thankfully Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.29,0:02:54.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was looking for Bethan Lloyd-Jones Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.43,0:02:57.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I picked up this \Nbook and I opened it up Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.10,0:02:58.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and bang there it was. Dialogue: 0,0:02:58.99,0:03:02.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Don't you love when that happens? Dialogue: 0,0:03:02.08,0:03:05.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She says, "In those \Nearly years at Aberavon, Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.45,0:03:08.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I rejoiced to see men and women converted. Dialogue: 0,0:03:08.45,0:03:11.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Drunkards, evil livers, all manner Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.06,0:03:13.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of types and backgrounds Dialogue: 0,0:03:13.55,0:03:15.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and all different ages..." Dialogue: 0,0:03:15.56,0:03:20.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now this is Martyn Lloyd-Jones' wife. Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.64,0:03:23.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I rejoiced to see them. Dialogue: 0,0:03:23.91,0:03:27.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I envied them Dialogue: 0,0:03:27.96,0:03:29.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and sometimes wished Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.93,0:03:32.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when I saw their radiant faces Dialogue: 0,0:03:32.61,0:03:34.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and changed lives Dialogue: 0,0:03:34.71,0:03:37.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I had been a drunkard or worse, Dialogue: 0,0:03:37.46,0:03:41.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that I could be converted. Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.03,0:03:44.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I never imagined that I \Nneeded to be converted Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.19,0:03:46.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,having always been a Christian, Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.16,0:03:49.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or that I could get any \Nmore than I had already. Dialogue: 0,0:03:49.39,0:03:51.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Those first two years, God graciously used Dialogue: 0,0:03:51.79,0:03:55.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Martyn's morning sermons to open my eyes Dialogue: 0,0:03:55.05,0:03:57.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to show me my self and my needs. Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.100,0:04:01.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I came to know my sins forgiven Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.17,0:04:05.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the peace of God in my own heart." Dialogue: 0,0:04:05.23,0:04:06.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That has always struck me Dialogue: 0,0:04:06.83,0:04:08.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about Bethan Lloyd-Jones, Dialogue: 0,0:04:08.22,0:04:10.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that she desired that. Dialogue: 0,0:04:10.22,0:04:12.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's more accounts. Dialogue: 0,0:04:12.13,0:04:13.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Incomplete thought) Dialogue: 0,0:04:13.94,0:04:16.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Did you read both volumes? Dialogue: 0,0:04:16.65,0:04:19.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is that mentioned in there? Dialogue: 0,0:04:19.01,0:04:20.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,James: I remember hearing about it Dialogue: 0,0:04:20.80,0:04:22.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's the only thing I've read, Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.55,0:04:23.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so it must be there. Dialogue: 0,0:04:23.68,0:04:25.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tim: I think it's mentioned there too. Dialogue: 0,0:04:25.76,0:04:27.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's two whole volumes. Dialogue: 0,0:04:27.17,0:04:28.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Incomplete thought) Dialogue: 0,0:04:28.31,0:04:31.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This was actually written by her. Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.01,0:04:35.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so I thought I might \Nfind it here more quickly. Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.37,0:04:37.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a lot smaller as well. Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.53,0:04:40.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what do you all think? Dialogue: 0,0:04:40.40,0:04:44.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, he's going to that text Dialogue: 0,0:04:44.76,0:04:50.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about this woman who's \Nbeen saved from much. Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.30,0:04:52.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What do you do? What do you tell him? Dialogue: 0,0:04:52.22,0:04:55.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is that flawed thinking? Dialogue: 0,0:04:55.64,0:05:02.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, listen, just for starters, Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.02,0:05:07.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(incomplete thought) Dialogue: 0,0:05:07.79,0:05:12.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I personally have recognized Dialogue: 0,0:05:12.38,0:05:17.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that men like Martyn Lloyd-Jones, Dialogue: 0,0:05:17.65,0:05:27.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John MacArthur, John Piper... Dialogue: 0,0:05:27.01,0:05:29.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,James: Steve Lawson? Dialogue: 0,0:05:29.19,0:05:31.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tim: I don't know Steve Lawson's past, Dialogue: 0,0:05:31.43,0:05:34.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(incomplete thought). Dialogue: 0,0:05:34.44,0:05:40.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh, the other one, Charles Spurgeon - Dialogue: 0,0:05:40.61,0:05:43.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, most of those guys Dialogue: 0,0:05:43.28,0:05:55.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,came from families of \Nmultiple generations of pastors. Dialogue: 0,0:05:55.80,0:05:58.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Certainly, MacArthur did. Dialogue: 0,0:05:58.58,0:06:01.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,MacArthur's dad was a pastor. Dialogue: 0,0:06:01.23,0:06:04.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Piper's father was an evangelist. Dialogue: 0,0:06:04.29,0:06:07.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Spurgeon's father and \Ngrandfather were both pastors. Dialogue: 0,0:06:07.74,0:06:12.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they grew up in \Nrelatively moral settings. Dialogue: 0,0:06:12.69,0:06:16.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they weren't one \Nof these "pastor's kids" Dialogue: 0,0:06:16.100,0:06:22.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who ran off into all \Nmanner of wild living. Dialogue: 0,0:06:22.40,0:06:25.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, I think you can come up Dialogue: 0,0:06:25.60,0:06:28.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with your examples where, yeah, Dialogue: 0,0:06:28.35,0:06:30.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there were preachers who \Nhave been greatly used Dialogue: 0,0:06:30.59,0:06:33.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you can hear about Paul Washer's past. Dialogue: 0,0:06:33.55,0:06:38.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But is that the rule? \NIs that our experience? Dialogue: 0,0:06:38.85,0:06:41.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And does that text - Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.38,0:06:43.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what do you do with that text? Dialogue: 0,0:06:43.19,0:06:45.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see how he's using it. Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.59,0:06:50.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you think his reasoning is flawed? Dialogue: 0,0:06:50.19,0:06:55.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if so, how? Dialogue: 0,0:06:55.03,0:06:56.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(from the room) Dialogue: 0,0:06:56.15,0:06:58.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What about the text where Jesus says Dialogue: 0,0:06:58.76,0:07:01.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He did not come for \Nthose who are righteous, Dialogue: 0,0:07:01.90,0:07:05.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but those who are sick? Dialogue: 0,0:07:05.82,0:07:12.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tim: I think that's a good text. Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.12,0:07:14.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let me ask you this. Dialogue: 0,0:07:14.97,0:07:16.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that's a tremendous text Dialogue: 0,0:07:16.62,0:07:18.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and very applicable to this, Dialogue: 0,0:07:18.09,0:07:21.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but let me ask you this. Dialogue: 0,0:07:21.10,0:07:23.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jesus often said things Dialogue: 0,0:07:23.03,0:07:25.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in very interesting ways. Dialogue: 0,0:07:25.44,0:07:27.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He often said things in ways Dialogue: 0,0:07:27.12,0:07:30.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we wouldn't say them. Dialogue: 0,0:07:30.02,0:07:33.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because if you're Jesus and you're sitting Dialogue: 0,0:07:33.31,0:07:35.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you have this woman Dialogue: 0,0:07:35.11,0:07:38.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who is a great sinner - Dialogue: 0,0:07:38.39,0:07:42.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she was the one that was \Na woman of the city, right? Dialogue: 0,0:07:42.24,0:07:45.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you have a woman of the city Dialogue: 0,0:07:45.34,0:07:48.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and she comes in and she obviously Dialogue: 0,0:07:48.94,0:07:51.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,loves the Lord Jesus Dialogue: 0,0:07:51.47,0:07:53.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and she's doing what she does, Dialogue: 0,0:07:53.37,0:07:55.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there seems to be every indication Dialogue: 0,0:07:55.18,0:07:59.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she's the real deal - she's genuine. Dialogue: 0,0:07:59.07,0:08:00.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She's broken. Dialogue: 0,0:08:00.65,0:08:02.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She's in glory now. Dialogue: 0,0:08:02.25,0:08:04.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But you know what's interesting? Dialogue: 0,0:08:04.14,0:08:07.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who's He talking to? Dialogue: 0,0:08:07.97,0:08:09.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's talking to Pharisees. Dialogue: 0,0:08:09.69,0:08:15.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when He says Dialogue: 0,0:08:15.49,0:08:17.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those who have been forgiven little, Dialogue: 0,0:08:17.68,0:08:20.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they love little, Dialogue: 0,0:08:20.62,0:08:23.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who do you think He's got in mind? Dialogue: 0,0:08:23.43,0:08:25.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is He talking about them? Dialogue: 0,0:08:25.52,0:08:27.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is He talking about somebody else? Dialogue: 0,0:08:27.33,0:08:29.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Incomplete thought) Dialogue: 0,0:08:29.99,0:08:31.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is this hypothetical? Dialogue: 0,0:08:31.95,0:08:38.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is it more a hyperbolic play on words? Dialogue: 0,0:08:38.24,0:08:42.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's making a point? Dialogue: 0,0:08:42.72,0:08:44.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How do you read that? Dialogue: 0,0:08:44.24,0:08:46.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because if you really think about it, Dialogue: 0,0:08:46.25,0:08:50.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is He actually saying to the Pharisee: Dialogue: 0,0:08:50.49,0:08:52.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, you're in the Kingdom Dialogue: 0,0:08:52.67,0:08:54.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just as much as she's in the Kingdom, Dialogue: 0,0:08:54.70,0:08:56.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but because she's been forgiven much Dialogue: 0,0:08:56.92,0:08:58.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you've been forgiven little, Dialogue: 0,0:08:58.72,0:09:00.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,therefore she loves much, Dialogue: 0,0:09:00.17,0:09:02.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you're going to love little. Dialogue: 0,0:09:02.89,0:09:07.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, I don't think that's \Nwhat's happening there. Dialogue: 0,0:09:07.45,0:09:09.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because the reality is you come back Dialogue: 0,0:09:09.68,0:09:13.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the text that R.L. just brought up. Dialogue: 0,0:09:13.44,0:09:18.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The reality is we're all sick Dialogue: 0,0:09:18.42,0:09:20.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we're really sick. Dialogue: 0,0:09:20.32,0:09:25.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And even if you were self-righteously sick Dialogue: 0,0:09:25.46,0:09:28.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like Paul... Dialogue: 0,0:09:28.52,0:09:32.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,see, in the end, was Paul a drunk? No. Dialogue: 0,0:09:32.42,0:09:34.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Was Paul sexually immoral? No. Dialogue: 0,0:09:34.97,0:09:36.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know what he says? Dialogue: 0,0:09:36.66,0:09:38.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He says when it came to the law, Dialogue: 0,0:09:38.51,0:09:41.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was blameless. Dialogue: 0,0:09:41.99,0:09:45.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And yet, he says I'm the chief of sinners. Dialogue: 0,0:09:45.37,0:09:49.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know what I'm afraid of in this? Dialogue: 0,0:09:49.01,0:09:54.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That this guy doesn't have \Na proper self-perspective. Dialogue: 0,0:09:54.92,0:09:58.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've heard Brother John Sytsma Dialogue: 0,0:09:58.90,0:10:02.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who comes out of religious background. Dialogue: 0,0:10:02.03,0:10:09.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But you know, he'll \Nbe the first to tell you - Dialogue: 0,0:10:09.19,0:10:13.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he senses the wickedness Dialogue: 0,0:10:13.67,0:10:15.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of religious self-righteousness Dialogue: 0,0:10:15.54,0:10:18.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because that's the \Nbackground he came from. Dialogue: 0,0:10:18.47,0:10:22.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But you know, isn't it so often perceived Dialogue: 0,0:10:22.26,0:10:23.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that if you were a drunk, Dialogue: 0,0:10:23.96,0:10:26.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and if you were sexually immoral - Dialogue: 0,0:10:26.12,0:10:30.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because even Bethan \Nfell into that thinking. Dialogue: 0,0:10:30.03,0:10:32.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lots of people fall into that thinking. Dialogue: 0,0:10:32.38,0:10:34.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But you know what that is? Dialogue: 0,0:10:34.99,0:10:38.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's wrong thinking. Dialogue: 0,0:10:38.41,0:10:42.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now he's right in the \Nsense that he says this: Dialogue: 0,0:10:42.82,0:10:47.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said, "I might not have had Dialogue: 0,0:10:47.87,0:10:49.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as bad a past as others, Dialogue: 0,0:10:49.57,0:10:51.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I acknowledge \NI deserve to go to hell." Dialogue: 0,0:10:51.91,0:10:53.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, see, he's right in the fact Dialogue: 0,0:10:53.59,0:10:55.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that he deserves to go to hell. Dialogue: 0,0:10:55.30,0:10:58.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's wrong in the fact that \Nhe hasn't been as bad Dialogue: 0,0:10:58.03,0:11:00.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as other people. Dialogue: 0,0:11:00.21,0:11:02.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Think about it. Dialogue: 0,0:11:02.51,0:11:08.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He deserves to go to hell. Dialogue: 0,0:11:08.76,0:11:10.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, the reality is, he's done Dialogue: 0,0:11:10.57,0:11:12.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,such offensive things \Nand such wicked things Dialogue: 0,0:11:12.80,0:11:14.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the sight of God Dialogue: 0,0:11:14.23,0:11:17.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that God would put him in hell forever. Dialogue: 0,0:11:17.51,0:11:22.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We sometimes have these ideas...\N(incomplete thought). Dialogue: 0,0:11:22.50,0:11:25.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know one of the problems? Dialogue: 0,0:11:25.42,0:11:28.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think this stems largely Dialogue: 0,0:11:28.98,0:11:32.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from our man-centeredness. Dialogue: 0,0:11:32.31,0:11:36.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We tend to think of sins on that level Dialogue: 0,0:11:36.84,0:11:38.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as being the chief sins, Dialogue: 0,0:11:38.61,0:11:41.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but really, idolatry, Dialogue: 0,0:11:41.75,0:11:44.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those that most directly attack God, Dialogue: 0,0:11:44.35,0:11:48.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we often think of the \Nones on the human level. Dialogue: 0,0:11:48.34,0:11:52.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the truth is Dialogue: 0,0:11:52.38,0:11:55.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when you think about the people Dialogue: 0,0:11:55.03,0:11:56.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to whom it was said Dialogue: 0,0:11:56.32,0:11:58.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's going to be more tolerable Dialogue: 0,0:11:58.02,0:12:01.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for Sodom in the day of judgment Dialogue: 0,0:12:01.10,0:12:02.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than for those cities, Dialogue: 0,0:12:02.77,0:12:06.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's no real indication \Nthat those cities Dialogue: 0,0:12:06.10,0:12:07.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were like Sodom and Gomorrah Dialogue: 0,0:12:07.76,0:12:10.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as far as sexuality Dialogue: 0,0:12:10.37,0:12:12.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and sexual immorality. Dialogue: 0,0:12:12.46,0:12:14.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know what their crime was? Dialogue: 0,0:12:14.83,0:12:18.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They had light and they rejected it. Dialogue: 0,0:12:18.82,0:12:23.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, if we want to say anything Dialogue: 0,0:12:23.38,0:12:25.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about from Scripture Dialogue: 0,0:12:25.62,0:12:31.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who might be the most damnable, Dialogue: 0,0:12:31.12,0:12:34.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's the moral religionist Dialogue: 0,0:12:34.65,0:12:39.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who's been exposed to truth Dialogue: 0,0:12:39.68,0:12:41.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and yet continued on not loving God Dialogue: 0,0:12:41.40,0:12:43.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the way they should. Dialogue: 0,0:12:43.43,0:12:46.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I think that's a wrong estimation. Dialogue: 0,0:12:46.82,0:12:48.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because think about the Apostle Paul. Dialogue: 0,0:12:48.76,0:12:50.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What did he say about himself? Dialogue: 0,0:12:50.23,0:12:53.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said, "I'm the chief of sinners." Dialogue: 0,0:12:53.31,0:12:56.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a statement \Nworthy of all acceptation Dialogue: 0,0:12:56.11,0:12:58.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that Christ Jesus came into \Nthe world to save sinners Dialogue: 0,0:12:58.70,0:13:00.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of whom I am chief." Dialogue: 0,0:13:00.14,0:13:02.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what was he chiefly? Dialogue: 0,0:13:02.25,0:13:04.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not a fornicator, not an adulterer, Dialogue: 0,0:13:04.09,0:13:05.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not a swearer. Dialogue: 0,0:13:05.96,0:13:07.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He wasn't the drunk. Dialogue: 0,0:13:07.52,0:13:08.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He wasn't in the gutter. Dialogue: 0,0:13:08.89,0:13:10.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He wasn't in the brothels. Dialogue: 0,0:13:10.31,0:13:12.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He wasn't in the bars \Nand in the taverns. Dialogue: 0,0:13:12.79,0:13:13.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He wasn't. Dialogue: 0,0:13:13.60,0:13:16.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He wasn't the guy walking \Naround with the filthy mouth. Dialogue: 0,0:13:16.32,0:13:19.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was the guy that when it \Ncame religiously speaking, Dialogue: 0,0:13:19.62,0:13:24.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he walked the line. Dialogue: 0,0:13:24.69,0:13:26.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he's the chief. Dialogue: 0,0:13:26.17,0:13:32.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And see I think it's a \Nbad measuring stick. Dialogue: 0,0:13:32.76,0:13:36.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's blindness. Dialogue: 0,0:13:36.95,0:13:38.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We categorize sins Dialogue: 0,0:13:38.60,0:13:44.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I think that it's a matter Dialogue: 0,0:13:44.33,0:13:46.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of ignorance and blindness Dialogue: 0,0:13:46.94,0:13:51.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of seeing certain types of sin Dialogue: 0,0:13:51.95,0:13:55.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for how wicked and evil they really are. Dialogue: 0,0:13:55.54,0:13:58.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anybody got any comments on that? Dialogue: 0,0:13:58.22,0:14:00.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,James: I just thought I'd \Nread that one verse, Dialogue: 0,0:14:00.69,0:14:02.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Luke 11:47, "And the servant Dialogue: 0,0:14:02.83,0:14:04.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who knew his master's will, Dialogue: 0,0:14:04.71,0:14:07.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but did not get ready or \Nact according to his will Dialogue: 0,0:14:07.74,0:14:13.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will receive a severe beating." Dialogue: 0,0:14:13.38,0:14:16.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tim: Yeah, there's a matter of knowing, Dialogue: 0,0:14:16.48,0:14:18.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,knowledge, light. Dialogue: 0,0:14:18.53,0:14:20.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you have light, Dialogue: 0,0:14:20.02,0:14:27.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it really compounds your guilt. Dialogue: 0,0:14:27.96,0:14:30.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anyway, he goes on to say more, Dialogue: 0,0:14:30.84,0:14:32.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I wanted to just touch that Dialogue: 0,0:14:32.90,0:14:37.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I thought that was \Na really interesting perspective.