[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:09.88,0:00:12.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Distant siren] Dialogue: 0,0:00:17.32,0:00:22.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪ Doo doo doo ♪ Dialogue: 0,0:00:22.39,0:00:24.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪ Doo doo doo...♪ Dialogue: 0,0:00:27.68,0:00:32.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Vocalizing continues] Dialogue: 0,0:00:41.27,0:00:44.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Diana Thater: This time of year, it's unusual to see a whale. Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.71,0:00:50.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Usually right now, you see maybe dolphins. Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.50,0:00:56.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know. Dialogue: 0,0:00:56.16,0:00:57.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think she went back out to sea. Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.98,0:01:01.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪...doo doo doo doo ♪ Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.78,0:01:04.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Singing fades and stops] Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.03,0:01:15.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I thought for a while I would become an architect Dialogue: 0,0:01:15.92,0:01:18.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'cause I'm very interested in space… Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.27,0:01:27.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is why I make installation 'cause \Ninstallation is all about moving through space. Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.00,0:01:33.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And perhaps that's more of what \NI was really interested in, Dialogue: 0,0:01:33.78,0:01:38.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is dealing with the complexities \Nof our relationships to space. Dialogue: 0,0:01:41.58,0:01:44.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And a friend of mine had \Nvisited this temple in India. Dialogue: 0,0:01:45.15,0:01:49.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is a temple to the Hindu monkey god, Hanuman. Dialogue: 0,0:01:52.26,0:01:56.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, I'm always looking \Nfor these kind of amazing... Dialogue: 0,0:01:56.94,0:02:00.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,coincidences between the \Nanimal and the human world, Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.18,0:02:02.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between animal culture and human culture. Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.80,0:02:09.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I wanted to go film monkeys \Nin the temple to a monkey god. Dialogue: 0,0:02:11.52,0:02:14.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I always have a vision or an image, like– Dialogue: 0,0:02:14.82,0:02:17.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like a photograph in my mind \Nof what I'm going to see. Dialogue: 0,0:02:17.58,0:02:19.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's never there, Dialogue: 0,0:02:19.20,0:02:23.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but when I get there, what's \Nreally there is even better. Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.16,0:02:29.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So when I got there, I found out that \Nthe temple didn't have an interior. Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.10,0:02:31.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just a facade built on a cliff. Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.44,0:02:38.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when I made the installation, \None room is the temple. Dialogue: 0,0:02:38.94,0:02:43.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You walk through the doorway, \Nand I made my own interior. Dialogue: 0,0:02:46.92,0:02:49.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And of course, what you find when you go in Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.32,0:02:54.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is an image of theater seats \Nwith a viewer sitting in it, Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.54,0:02:56.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,watching a movie of monkeys. Dialogue: 0,0:02:59.22,0:03:02.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it's the theater, which is the sacred space. Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.66,0:03:08.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The viewer comes in, and you watch someone watch. Dialogue: 0,0:03:09.04,0:03:15.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[synth music] Dialogue: 0,0:03:16.92,0:03:20.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've always been incredibly \Ninfluenced by hollywood film. Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.64,0:03:24.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ever since I was a child, I've \Nbeen a sort of film fanatic. Dialogue: 0,0:03:27.48,0:03:30.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, I grew up wanting to be two things. Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.48,0:03:33.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I either wanted to be a movie \Nstar or I wanted to be an artist. Dialogue: 0,0:03:35.82,0:03:38.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And a really great way to become an artist is Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.34,0:03:42.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to go to graduate school and \Nstudy art with real artists. Dialogue: 0,0:03:43.62,0:03:45.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wanted to read a lot, Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.12,0:03:49.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I wanted to learn theory and I \Nwanted to work in film and video. Dialogue: 0,0:03:50.82,0:03:53.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had a friend who was an architect, Dialogue: 0,0:03:53.88,0:03:57.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he said all the best graduate \Nschools are in Los Angeles. Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.70,0:04:03.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I picked up and moved to California. Dialogue: 0,0:04:07.14,0:04:08.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's almost a tradition. Dialogue: 0,0:04:09.61,0:04:13.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Teachers teach, the students graduate, Dialogue: 0,0:04:13.02,0:04:16.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they go on to become artists \Nand teachers themselves. Dialogue: 0,0:04:17.22,0:04:20.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,— So the relationship of this work \Nto the work in the other galleries, Dialogue: 0,0:04:20.94,0:04:22.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can you talk about that for a minute? Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.80,0:04:25.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,— I mean, living in L.A., \Nyou're surrounded by signs... Dialogue: 0,0:04:25.20,0:04:25.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,— Mm-hmm. Dialogue: 0,0:04:25.70,0:04:28.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,— Of course, so it's certainly \Ninspired a lot by that. Dialogue: 0,0:04:30.00,0:04:32.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Diana Thater] And I think that's \Nimportant to L.A. artists, also, Dialogue: 0,0:04:32.94,0:04:36.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is if you're always involved with young people, Dialogue: 0,0:04:36.48,0:04:38.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you're always involved in teaching, Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.76,0:04:40.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're always talking about new ideas. Dialogue: 0,0:04:41.61,0:04:49.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[synth music] Dialogue: 0,0:04:52.28,0:04:57.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪ ♪ Dialogue: 0,0:05:01.30,0:05:04.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I'm just building a tiny video wall. Dialogue: 0,0:05:04.01,0:05:11.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪ ♪ Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.61,0:05:13.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the installation at LACMA. Dialogue: 0,0:05:15.48,0:05:18.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Normally I install one piece at a time. Dialogue: 0,0:05:18.50,0:05:21.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But for something like this, \Nit's really complicated. Dialogue: 0,0:05:21.85,0:05:25.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I need to be able to move around \Nand look through every doorway. Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.94,0:05:28.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like, you have to get down here… Dialogue: 0,0:05:30.54,0:05:33.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,look through this doorway to this doorway, Dialogue: 0,0:05:34.32,0:05:40.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so you can see that every view is \Nplanned so that from any doorway, Dialogue: 0,0:05:40.74,0:05:45.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you see another color and another image. Dialogue: 0,0:05:46.37,0:05:51.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[synth music] Dialogue: 0,0:05:58.50,0:06:05.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I first started working, \NI wanted to make something new. Dialogue: 0,0:06:07.86,0:06:17.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I came to the idea that abstraction in \Nart is the abstraction of the figurative. Dialogue: 0,0:06:20.22,0:06:23.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But abstraction in film and \Nvideo is the abstraction of time. Dialogue: 0,0:06:27.48,0:06:31.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's how I came to working \Nwith images of the natural world Dialogue: 0,0:06:31.14,0:06:35.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because the natural world \Nis not inherently narrative. Dialogue: 0,0:06:36.90,0:06:40.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's another kind of time, another kind of cycle. Dialogue: 0,0:06:42.96,0:06:47.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm interested in the relationship \Nbetween images and space and time. Dialogue: 0,0:06:51.48,0:06:54.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When the viewer walks in, I want them to… Dialogue: 0,0:06:55.96,0:06:58.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know that they're entering into a work of art. Dialogue: 0,0:07:00.90,0:07:04.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So how do I make you conscious \Nof the space that surrounds you? Dialogue: 0,0:07:04.26,0:07:08.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I do that by tinting the space \Nbecause that makes it a volume. Dialogue: 0,0:07:10.74,0:07:14.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it makes you fully conscious \Nof the space you occupy, Dialogue: 0,0:07:14.65,0:07:16.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uh, how you move through it. Dialogue: 0,0:07:16.23,0:07:20.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see your shadow, you interfere with images, Dialogue: 0,0:07:20.31,0:07:22.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the technology is exposed, Dialogue: 0,0:07:23.28,0:07:25.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so there's a kind of loss of self, Dialogue: 0,0:07:25.74,0:07:28.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but there's a kind of hyperconsciousness of self. Dialogue: 0,0:07:34.19,0:07:40.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And each of those spaces is sort of really \Nchoreographed to give you the opportunity Dialogue: 0,0:07:40.63,0:07:45.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to have a sympathetic bodily \Nresponse to an experience. Dialogue: 0,0:07:47.94,0:07:54.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that sympathy is not constructed \Nintellectually or emotionally. Dialogue: 0,0:07:55.80,0:08:04.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's seeing the dolphin spinning in space \Nand feeling it fully within your body. Dialogue: 0,0:08:10.32,0:08:16.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm interested in you feeling the buzz and \Nfeeling that super-fast flutter that bees do… Dialogue: 0,0:08:20.76,0:08:28.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the giving viewers an opportunity to feel their full \Nself in the presence of other kinds of selves. Dialogue: 0,0:08:34.14,0:08:40.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Recording of birds chirping\Nat high speed] Dialogue: 0,0:08:40.80,0:08:42.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Animals are quite foreign to me. Dialogue: 0,0:08:43.50,0:08:46.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to film them, but when I'm with them, Dialogue: 0,0:08:46.62,0:08:48.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am afraid of them. Dialogue: 0,0:08:51.54,0:08:55.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think I'm a lot more of a city \Ngirl than I am anything else. Dialogue: 0,0:08:57.42,0:09:04.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People think I'm an adventurer just 'cause I go \Nto exotic places and film gorillas or dolphins. Dialogue: 0,0:09:05.52,0:09:07.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not because I'm an adventurer. Dialogue: 0,0:09:08.06,0:09:09.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's because I have to. Dialogue: 0,0:09:13.38,0:09:16.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is Keebu. Every day, \Nwhen I went up in this tower, Dialogue: 0,0:09:16.86,0:09:21.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Keebu would climb a tree opposite me \Nand sit and watch me film every day, Dialogue: 0,0:09:21.96,0:09:28.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I have tons of footage of Keebu sitting \Nin this tree, and he's quite beautiful. Dialogue: 0,0:09:29.40,0:09:35.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Gorillagorillagorilla" is a piece that I \Nmade in the Mefou National Park in Cameroon. Dialogue: 0,0:09:36.18,0:09:39.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The work focuses on western lowland gorillas. Dialogue: 0,0:09:40.50,0:09:46.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The gorillas are in these huge enclosures \Nsurrounded by double electrified fences. Dialogue: 0,0:09:46.65,0:09:51.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's to keep them safe. It's to \Nkeep humans from poaching them. Dialogue: 0,0:09:53.76,0:09:55.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are so endangered. Dialogue: 0,0:09:55.80,0:09:59.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are so vulnerable. Dialogue: 0,0:10:00.36,0:10:03.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I found that documentary \Nfilmmakers who had come there before me Dialogue: 0,0:10:03.42,0:10:06.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had built these huge towers with ladders on them Dialogue: 0,0:10:06.60,0:10:12.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that they could film the gorillas \Nas if they were out in the wild. Dialogue: 0,0:10:16.62,0:10:19.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I decided I would film them in 3 ways: Dialogue: 0,0:10:21.30,0:10:24.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gorillas as explained to us by science… Dialogue: 0,0:10:27.60,0:10:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gorillas as if they're free… Dialogue: 0,0:10:32.22,0:10:36.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then the third, imprisoned, \Nthe way they really are. Dialogue: 0,0:10:41.65,0:10:47.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's really about \Nquestioning how we know animals, Dialogue: 0,0:10:48.48,0:10:51.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how is information about animals delivered to us, Dialogue: 0,0:10:51.60,0:10:53.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's delivered to us in these ways. Dialogue: 0,0:10:56.13,0:11:01.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[synth music] Dialogue: 0,0:11:03.06,0:11:11.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is an era in which the greatest changes \Nthat are happening to the earth are manmade. Dialogue: 0,0:11:15.30,0:11:18.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was this idea that animals \Nwere returning to Chernobyl, Dialogue: 0,0:11:18.84,0:11:21.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is, of course, the largest \Nnuclear meltdown in history. Dialogue: 0,0:11:26.36,0:11:28.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Overlapping chatter] Dialogue: 0,0:11:28.98,0:11:32.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I went to Chernobyl, and I \Nspent 7 days living in a trailer Dialogue: 0,0:11:32.88,0:11:34.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a very small crew. Dialogue: 0,0:11:37.62,0:11:38.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's dangerous. Dialogue: 0,0:11:38.94,0:11:40.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's radioactive. Dialogue: 0,0:11:41.22,0:11:43.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's fascinating in so many ways. Dialogue: 0,0:11:57.78,0:12:00.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I use the abandoned movie \Ntheater as a movie theater, Dialogue: 0,0:12:01.53,0:12:06.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I projected images of the outside \Non the interior of the movie theater. Dialogue: 0,0:12:11.76,0:12:16.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The one thing I never wanted was \Nto reinforce the propaganda that Dialogue: 0,0:12:16.98,0:12:19.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,animals are thriving in \NChernobyl, which they're not. Dialogue: 0,0:12:21.60,0:12:24.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The whole point of the piece is the struggle, Dialogue: 0,0:12:24.72,0:12:30.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the will to live, and the struggle to live. Dialogue: 0,0:12:34.14,0:12:38.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[soft electronic tone] Dialogue: 0,0:12:38.18,0:12:43.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want us to find different \Nways to think through living Dialogue: 0,0:12:43.94,0:12:47.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and different ways to construct power. Dialogue: 0,0:12:51.12,0:12:57.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How do we think about the natural \Nworld in a way that doesn't destroy it? Dialogue: 0,0:12:58.28,0:13:01.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪ Doo doo doo doo doo\Ndoo... ♪ Dialogue: 0,0:13:01.50,0:13:06.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thater: I think all artists \Nwant to change the world. Dialogue: 0,0:13:08.88,0:13:11.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I hope all artists want to change the world. Dialogue: 0,0:13:13.95,0:13:16.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if there's any place that we \Ncan imagine a different world, Dialogue: 0,0:13:16.100,0:13:21.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's through art, it's through \Nliterature, it's through film. Dialogue: 0,0:13:21.26,0:13:23.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪ Doo doo doo doo ♪ Dialogue: 0,0:13:23.64,0:13:25.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm completely willing to say it. Dialogue: 0,0:13:25.62,0:13:28.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe if I'm willing to say it, \Nother artists will say it, too, that, Dialogue: 0,0:13:28.92,0:13:30.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, come the revolution, Dialogue: 0,0:13:30.27,0:13:31.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm going to be ready. Dialogue: 0,0:13:31.76,0:13:35.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪ Doo doo doo doo ♪ Dialogue: 0,0:13:37.22,0:13:43.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[soft electronic music]