[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Chris Anderson: So I guess\Nwhat we're going to do is Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're going to talk about your life, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and using some pictures\Nthat you shared with me. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think we should start\Nright here with this one. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, now who is this? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Martine Rothblatt: This is me Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with our oldest son Eli. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was about age five. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is taken in Nigeria Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,right after having taken\Nthe Washington, DC bar exam. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CA: Okay. But this doesn't\Nreally look like a Martine. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,MR: Right. That was myself as a male, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the way I was brought up, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,before I transitioned Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from male to female and Martin to Martine. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CA: You were brought up Martin Rothblatt. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,MR: Correct. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CA: And about a year after this picture, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you married a beautiful woman. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Was this love at first sight?\NWhat happened there? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,MR: It was love at the first sight. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I saw Bina at a discotheque\Nin Los Angeles, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we later began living together, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the moment I saw her,\NI saw just an aura of energy around her. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I asked her to dance. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She said she saw an aura\Nof energy around me. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was a single male parent.\NShe was a single female parent. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We showed each other\Nour kids' pictures, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we've been happily married\Nfor a third of a century now. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Applause) Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CA: And at the time, you were\Nkind of this hotshot entrepreneur, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,working with satellites. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think you had two successful companies, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then you started\Naddressing this problem Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of how could you use satellites Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to revolutionize radio. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tell us about that. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,MR: Right. I always\Nloved space technology, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and satellites, to me, are sort of\Nlike the canoes that our ancestors Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,first pushed out into the water. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it was exciting for me\Nto be part of the navigation Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the oceans of the sky, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and as I developed different types\Nof satellite communication systems, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the main thing I did was to launch Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bigger and more powerful satellites, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the consequence was that\Nthe receiving antennas Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,could be smaller and smaller, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and after going through\Ndirect television broadcasting, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had the idea that if we could make Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a more powerful satellite, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the receiving dish could be so small Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that it would just be a section\Nof a parabolic dish, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a flap of a plate embedded\Ninto the roof of an automobile, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it would be possible to have\Nnationwide satellite radio, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's SiriusXM today. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CA: Wow. So who here has used Sirius? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Applause) Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,MR: Thank you for\Nyour monthly subscriptions. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CA: So that succeeded despite\Nall predictions at the time. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was a huge commercial success, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but soon after this, in the early 1990s, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there was this big transition in your life Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you became Martine. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,MR: Correct.\NCA: So tell me, how did that happen? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,MR: It happened in consultation with Bina Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and our four beautiful children, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I discussed with each of them Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I felt my soul was always female, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and as a woman, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I was afraid people would laugh at me Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if I expressed it, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I always kept it bottled up Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and just showed my male side. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And each of them\Nhad a different take on this. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Bina said that I love your soul Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and whether the outside\Nis Martin and Martine, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it doesn't it matter to me,\NI love your soul. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My son said, if you become a woman,\Nwill you still be my father? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said yes,\NI'll always be your father, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'm still his father today. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My youngest daughter did an absolutely\Nbrilliant five-year old thing. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She told people, "I love my dad\Nand she loves me." Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So she had no problem\Nwith a gender blending whatsoever. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CA: And a couple years after this,\Nyou published this book: Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Apartheid of Sex. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What was your thesis in this book? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,MR: My thesis in this book is that there\Nare seven billion people in the world, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and actually, seven billion unique ways\Nto express one's gender. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And while people may have\Nthe genitals of a male or a female, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the genitals don't determine your gender Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or even really your sexual identity. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's just a matter of anatomy Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and reproductive tracts, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and people could choose\Nwhatever gender they want Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if they weren't forced by society Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into categories of either male or female Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the way South Africa used to force people Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into categories of black or white. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We know from anthropological science Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that race is fiction, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even though racism is very, very real, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we now know from cultural studies Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that separate male or female genders Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is a constructed fiction. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The reality is a gender fluidity Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that crosses the entire continuum\Nfrom male to female. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CA: You yourself don't always\Nfeel 100 percent female. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,MR: Correct. I would say in some ways Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I change my gender about as often\Nas I change my hairstyle. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CA: (Laughs) Okay, now, this is\Nyour gorgeous daughter, Genesis. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I guess she was about this age Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when something pretty terrible happened. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,MR: Yes, she was finding herself\Nunable to walk up the stairs Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in our house to her bedroom, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and after several months of doctors, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she was diagnosed to have a rare, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,almost invariably fatal disease Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,called pulmonary arterial hypertension. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CA: So how did you respond to that? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,MR: Well, we first tried to get her\Nto the best doctors we could. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We ended up at Children's\NNational Medical Center in Washington, DC. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The head of pediatric cardiology Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,told us that he was going to refer her\Nto get a lung transplant, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but not to hold out any hope, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because there are\Nvery few lungs available, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,especially for children. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said that all people\Nwith this illness die, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and if any of you have seen\Nthe film "Lorenzo's Oil," Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's a scene when the protagonist Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kind of rolls down the stairway\Ncrying and bemoaning the fate of his son, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's exactly\Nhow we felt about Genesis. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CA: But you didn't accept that\Nas the limit of what you could do. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You started trying to research Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and see if you could find a cure somehow. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,MR: Correct. She was in intensive\Ncare ward for weeks at a time, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Bina and I would tag team\Nto stay at the hospital Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,while the other watched\Nthe rest of the kids, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and when I was in the hospital\Nand she was sleeping, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I went to the hospital library. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I read every article that I could find\Non pulmonary hypertension. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had not taken any biology,\Neven in college, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I had to go from a biology textbook Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to a college-level textbook Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then medical textbook\Nand the journal articles, back and forth, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and eventually I knew enough to think\Nthat it might be possible Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that somebody could find a cure. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we started a nonprofit foundation. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wrote a description Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,asking people to submit grants Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we would pay for medical research. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I became an expert on the condition.\NDoctors said to me, Martine, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we really appreciate all the funding\Nyou've provided us, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we are not going to be able\Nto find a cure in time Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to save your daughter. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,However, there is a medicine Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that was developed at the\NBorroughs Wellcome Trust Company Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that could halt the progression\Nof the disease, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but Borroughs Wellcome has just\Nbeen acquired by Glaxo Wellcome. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They made a decision not to develop Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,any medicines for rare\Nand orphan diseases, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and maybe you could use your expertise\Nin satellite communications Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to develop this cure\Nfor pulmonary hypertension. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CA: So how on earth did you get\Naccess to this drug? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,MR: I went to Glaxo Wellcome Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and after three times being rejected\Nand having the door slammed in my face Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they weren't going\Nto out-license the drug Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to a satellite communications expert, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they weren't going to send the drug\Nout to anybody at all, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they thought\NI didn't have the expertise, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,finally I was able to persuade\Na small team of people to work with me Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and develop enough credibility. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wore down their resistance, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they had no hope this drug\Nwould even work, by the way, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they tried to tell me,\N"You're just wasting your time. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're sorry about your daughter." Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But finally, for 25,000 dollars Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and agreement to pay 10 percent\Nof any revenues we might ever get, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they agreed to give me\Nworldwide rights to this drug. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CA: And so you put this drug on the market Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a really brilliant way, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by basically charging what it would take\Nto make the economics work. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,MR: Oh yes, Chris, but this really wasn't\Na drug that I ended up,\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after I wrote the check for 25,000, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I said, "Okay, where's\Nthe medicine for Genesis?" Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they said, "Oh, Martine,\Nthere's no medicine for Genesis. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is just something we tried in rats." Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they gave me, like,\Na little plastic Ziploc bag Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of a small amount of powder. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They said, "Don't give it to any human," Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they gave me a piece of paper\Nwhich said it was a patent, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and from that, we had to figure out\Na way to make this medicine. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A hundred chemists in the U.S.\Nat the top universities Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all swore that little patent\Ncould never be turned into a medicine. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If it was turned into a medicine,\Nit could never be delivered Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it had a half life\Nof only 45 minutes. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CA: And yet, a year or two later,\Nyou were there with the medicine Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that worked for Genesis. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,MR: Chris, the astonishing thing\Nis that this absolutely worthless Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,piece of powder Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that had the sparkle of a promise\Nof hope for Genesis Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is not only keeping Genesis\Nand other people alive today, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but produces almost a billion\Nand a half dollars a year in revenue. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Applause) Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CA: So here you go. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you took this company public, right? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And made an absolute fortune. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And how much have you paid Glaxo,\Nby the way, after that 25,000? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,MR: Yeah, well every year we pay them\N10 percent of 1.5 billion,, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,150 million dollars,\Nlast year a hundred million dollars. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The best return on an investment\Nthey ever received. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CA: And the best news of all, I guess, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is this. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mr: Yes. Genesis is an absolutely\Nbrilliant young lady. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She's alive, healthy today at 30. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see me, Bina, and Genesis there. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She's, the most amazing\Nthing about Genesis Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that while she could do\Nanything with her life, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and believe me, if you grew up\Nyour whole life with people Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in your face saying\Nthat you've got a fatal disease, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would probably run to Tahiti and just\Nnot want to run into anybody again. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But instead she chooses to work\Nin United Therapeutics. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She says she wants to do all she can\Nto help other people Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with orphan diseases get medicines, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and today, she's our project leader\Nfor all telepresence activities, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where she helps digitally unite\Nthe entire company to work together Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to find cures for pulmonary hypertension. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CA: But not everyone who has this disease\Nhas been so fortunate. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are still many people dying, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you are tackling that too. How? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,MR: Exactly, Chris. There's some 3,000\Npeople a year in the United States alone, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,perhaps ten times that number worldwide, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who continue to die of this illness Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because the medicines\Nslow down the progression Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but they don't halt it. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The only cure for pulmonary hypertension,\Npulmonary fibrosis, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cystic fibrosis, emphysema, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,COPD, what Leonard Nimoy just died of, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is a lung transplant, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but sadly, there are only enough\Navailable lungs for 2,000 people Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the U.S. a year\Nto get a young transplant, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whereas nearly a half\Nmillion people a year Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,die of end stage lung failure. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CA: So how can you address that? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,MR: So I conceptualize the possibility Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that just like we keep cars and planes Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and buildings going forever Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with an unlimited supply\Nof building parts and machine parts, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why can't we create an unlimited supply\Nof transplantable organs Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to keep people living indefinitely, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and especially people with lung disease. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we've teamed up with the decoder\Nof the human genome, Craig Venter, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the company he founded Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with Peter Diamandis,\Nthe founder of the X-Prize, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to genetically modify Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the pig genome Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that the pig's organs will not\Nbe rejected by the human body Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and thereby to create an unlimited supply Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of transplantable organs. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We do this through our company,\NUnited Therapeutics. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CA: So you really believe that within,\Nwhat, a decade, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that this shortage of transplantable lungs\Nmaybe be cured, through these guys? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,MR: Absolutely, Chris. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm as certain of that as I was\Nof the success that we've had Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with direct television\Nbroadcasting, SiriusXM. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's actually not rocket science. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's straightforward engineering away\None gene after another. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're so lucky to be born in the time\Nthat sequencing genome Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is a routine activity, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the brilliant folks\Nat Synthetic Genomics Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are able to zero in on the pig genome, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,find exactly the genes\Nthat are problematic, and fix them. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CA: But it's not just bodies that,\Nthough that is amazing. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Applause) Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not just long-lasting bodies\Nthat are of interest to you now. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's long-lasting minds. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think, like, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this graph for you\Nsays something quite profound. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What does this mean? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,MR: What this graph means, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it comes from Ray Kurzweil, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that the rate of development\Nin computer processing Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hardware, firmware, and software, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has been advancing along the curve Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,such that by the 2020s, as we saw\Nin earlier presentations today, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there will be information technology Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that processes information\Nand the world around us Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as the same rate as a human mind. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CA: And so that being so, you're actually\Ngetting ready for this world Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by believing that we will soon\Nbe able to, what, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually take the contents of our brains Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and somehow preserve them forever? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How do you describe that? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,MR: Well Chris, what we're working on\Nis creating a situation Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where people can create a mind file, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a mind file is the collection\Nof their mannerisms, personality, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,recollection, feelings, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,beliefs, attitudes and values, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everything that we've poured today\Ninto Google, into Amazon, into Facebook, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and all of this information stored there Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will be able, in the next couple decades, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,once software is able\Nto recapitulate consciousness, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be able to revive the consciousness Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is imminent in our mind file. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CA: Now you're not just\Nmessing around with this. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're serious. I mean, who is this? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,MR: This is a robot version of\Nmy beloved spice, Bina. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we call her Bina 48. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She was programmed\Nby Hanson Robotics out of Texas. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's the centerfold\Nfrom National Geographic Magazine Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with one of her caregivers, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and she roams the web Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and has hundreds of hours\Nof Bina's mannerisms, personalities. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She's kind of like a 2-year old kid, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but she says things\Nthat blows people away, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,best expressed by perhaps Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a New York Times Pulitzer-Prize\Nwinning journalist Amy Harmon Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who says her answers\Nare often frustrating, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but other times as compelling\Nas any flesh person she's interviewed. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CA: And this is your thinking here,\Npart of your hope here, is that Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this version of Bina can in a sense\Nlive on forever, or some future upgrade Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to this version can live on forever? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,MR: Yes. Not just Bina, but everybody. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, it costs us virtually nothing\Nto store our mind files Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on Facebook, Instagram, what-have-you. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Social media is I think one of the most\Nextraordinary inventions of our time, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and as apps become available\Nthat will allow us Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to out-Siri Siri, better and better, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and develop consciousness\Noperating systems, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everybody in the world,\Nbillions of people, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will be able to develop\Nmind clones of themselves Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that will have their own life on the web. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CA: So the thing is, Martine, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that in any normal conversation,\Nthis would sound stark-staring mad, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but in the context of your life,\Nwhat you've done, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some of the things we've heard this week, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the constructed realities\Nthat our minds get, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, you wouldn't bet against it. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,MR: Well, I think it's really nothing\Ncoming from me. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If anything, I'm perhaps a bit\Nof a communicator of activities Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that are being undertaken\Nby the greatest companies Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in China, Japan, India, the U.S., Europe. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are tens of millions of people Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,working on writing code Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that expresses more and more aspects\Nof our human consciousness, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you don't have to be a genius\Nto see that all these threads Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are going to come together\Nand ultimately create human consciousness, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's something we'll value. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are so many things\Nto do in this life, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and if we could have a simulacra, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a digital doppelgänger of ourselves Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that helps us process books, do shopping, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be our best friends, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I believe our mind clones,\Nthese digital versions of ourselves, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will ultimately be our best friends, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and for me personally and Bina personally, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we love each other like crazy. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Each day, we are always saying, like,\Nwow, I love you even more Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than 30 years ago. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so for us, the prospect of mind clones Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and regenerated bodies Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that our love affair, Chris, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can go on forever. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we never get bored of each other.\NI'm sure we never will. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CA: I think Bina's here, right?\NMR: She is. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CA: Would it be too much, I don't know,\Ndo we have a handheld mic? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Bina, could we invite you to the stage?\NI just have to ask you one question. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Besides, we need to see you. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Applause) Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you, thank you. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Come and join Martine here. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, look, when you got married, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if someone had told you that,\Nin a few years time, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the man you were marrying\Nwould become a woman, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a few years after that,\Nyou would become a robot Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- (Laughter) -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how has this gone? How has it been? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Bina Rothblatt: It's been really\Nan exciting journey, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I would have never\Nthought the at the time, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we started making goals\Nand setting those goals Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and accomplishing things, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and before you knew it,\Nwe just keep going up and up Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we're still not stopping,\Nso it's great. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CA: Martine told me something\Nreally beautiful, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on Skype before this, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which was that he wanted\Nto live for hundreds of years Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as a mind file, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but not if it wasn't with you. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,BR: That's right,\Nwe want to do it together. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We want cryogenics as well,\Nand we want to wake up together. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CA: So just so as you know,\Nfrom my point of view, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this isn't only one of the most\Nastonishing lives I have heard, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's one of the most astonishing\Nlove stories I've ever heard. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just a delight to have you\Nboth here at TED. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you so much. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,MR: Thank you. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Applause)