1 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:13,735 "We're declaring war against cancer, 2 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,360 and we will win this war by 2015." 3 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:21,176 This is what the US Congress and the National Cancer Institute declared 4 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,760 just a few years ago, in 2003. 5 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,656 Now, I don't know about you, but I don't buy that. 6 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:29,736 I don't think we quite won this war yet, 7 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,400 and I don't think anyone here will question that. 8 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,296 Now, I will argue that a primary reason 9 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:37,456 why we're not winning this war against cancer 10 00:00:37,480 --> 00:00:39,776 is because we're fighting blindly. 11 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:43,375 I'm going to start by sharing with you a story about a good friend of mine. 12 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:44,616 His name is Ehud, 13 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,776 and a few years ago, Ehud was diagnosed with brain cancer. 14 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:49,656 And not just any type of brain cancer: 15 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,856 he was diagnosed with one of the most deadly forms of brain cancer. 16 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:54,096 In fact, it was so deadly 17 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,776 that the doctors told him that they only have 12 months, 18 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:00,216 and during those 12 months, they have to find a treatment. 19 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:01,696 They have to find a cure, 20 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:03,880 and if they cannot find a cure, he will die. 21 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:06,256 Now, the good news, they said, 22 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,216 is that there are tons of different treatments to choose from, 23 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:10,456 but the bad news is 24 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:14,016 that in order for them to tell if a treatment is even working or not, 25 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,536 well, that takes them about three months or so. 26 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:18,936 So they cannot try that many things. 27 00:01:18,960 --> 00:01:22,056 Well, Ehud is now going into his first treatment, 28 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,336 and during that first treatment, just a few days into that treatment, 29 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,696 I'm meeting with him, and he tells me, "Adam, I think this is working. 30 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,536 I think we really lucked out here. Something is happening." 31 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,016 And I ask him, "Really? How do you know that, Ehud?" 32 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,256 And he says, "Well, I feel so terrible inside. 33 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,136 Something's gotta be working up there. 34 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:39,376 It just has to." 35 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:43,840 Well, unfortunately, three months later, we got the news, it didn't work. 36 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,576 And so Ehud goes into his second treatment. 37 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:47,856 And again, the same story. 38 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,616 "It feels so bad, something's gotta be working there." 39 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,576 And then three months later, again we get bad news. 40 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:57,536 Ehud is going into his third treatment, and then his fourth treatment. 41 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,080 And then, as predicted, Ehud dies. 42 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:05,376 Now, when someone really close to you is going through such a huge struggle, 43 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,216 you get really swamped with emotions. 44 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,336 A lot of things are going through your head. 45 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:10,816 For me, it was mostly outrage. 46 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:15,536 I was just outraged that, how come this is the best that we can offer? 47 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,856 And I started looking more and more into this. 48 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:21,336 As it turns out, this is not just the best that doctors could offer Ehud. 49 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:25,176 It's not just the best doctors could offer patients with brain cancer generally. 50 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,400 We're actually not doing that well all across the board with cancer. 51 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,096 I picked up one of those statistics, 52 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,896 and I'm sure some of you have seen those statistics before. 53 00:02:33,920 --> 00:02:37,376 This is going to show you here how many patients actually died of cancer, 54 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,416 in this case females in the United States, 55 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:40,736 ever since the 1930s. 56 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,936 You'll notice that there aren't that many things that have changed. 57 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:45,256 It's still a huge issue. 58 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,016 You'll see a few changes though. 59 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,576 You'll see lung cancer, for example, on the rise. 60 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:50,800 Thank you, cigarettes. 61 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,856 And you'll also see that, for example, stomach cancer 62 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:57,216 once used to be one of the biggest killers of all cancers, 63 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:58,680 is essentially eliminated. 64 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,536 Now, why is that? Anyone knows, by the way? 65 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,896 Why is it that humanity is no longer struck by stomach cancer? 66 00:03:04,920 --> 00:03:09,776 What was the huge, huge medical technology breakthrough 67 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,160 that came to our world that saved humanity from stomach cancer? 68 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:18,056 Was it maybe a new drug, or a better diagnostic? 69 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:19,376 You guys are right, yeah. 70 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,016 It's the invention of the refrigerator, 71 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,656 and the fact that we're no longer eating spoiled meats. 72 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,976 So the best thing that happened to us so far 73 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:28,936 in the medical arena in cancer research 74 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,151 is the fact that the refrigerator was invented. 75 00:03:31,175 --> 00:03:32,376 (Laughter) 76 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:33,656 And so -- yeah, I know. 77 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:35,096 We're not doing so well here. 78 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,456 I don't want to miniaturize the progress 79 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,856 and everything that's been done in cancer research. 80 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:44,296 Look, there is like 50-plus years of good cancer research 81 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,736 that discovered major, major things that taught us about cancer. 82 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:49,496 But all that said, 83 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,092 we have a lot of heavy lifting to still do ahead of us. 84 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,016 Again, I will argue that the primary reason why this is the case, 85 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,040 why we have not done that remarkably well, 86 00:03:59,064 --> 00:04:00,896 is really we're fighting blindly here. 87 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,136 And this is where medical imaging comes in. 88 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:04,840 This is where my own work comes in. 89 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,136 And so to give you a sense of the best medical imaging 90 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,656 that's offered today to brain cancer patients, 91 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:12,856 or actually generally to all cancer patients, 92 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:14,816 take a look at this PET scan right here. 93 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:16,079 Let's see. There we go. 94 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:18,336 So this is a PET/CT scan, 95 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,815 and what you'll see in this PET/CT scan 96 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:24,056 is the CT scan will show you where the bones are, 97 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,480 and the PET scan will show you where tumors are. 98 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,176 Now, what you can see here 99 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,616 is essentially a sugar molecule 100 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:33,456 that was added a small little tag 101 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:35,576 that is signaling to us outside of the body, 102 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:36,896 "Hey, I'm here." 103 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,736 And those sugar molecules are injected into these patients by the billions, 104 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:42,456 and they're going all over the body 105 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,560 looking for cells that are hungry for sugar. 106 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,976 You'll see that the heart, for example, lights up there. 107 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,216 That's because the heart needs a lot of sugar. 108 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,576 You'll also see that the bladder lights up there. 109 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,216 That's because the bladder is the thing that's clearing 110 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:56,640 the sugar away from our body. 111 00:04:57,096 --> 00:04:59,096 And then you'll see a few other hot spots, 112 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:00,736 and these are in fact the tumors. 113 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:02,896 Now, this is a really a wonderful technology. 114 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,056 For the first time it allowed us to look into someone's body 115 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,456 without picking up each and every one of the cells 116 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,336 and putting them under the microscope, 117 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,376 but in a noninvasive way allowing us to look into someone's body 118 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,536 and ask, "Hey, has the cancer metastasized? 119 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:16,776 Where is it?" 120 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,296 And the PET scans here are showing you very clearly 121 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,600 where are these hot spots, where is the tumor. 122 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,776 So as miraculous as this might seem, 123 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,680 unfortunately, well, it's not that great. 124 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,400 You see, those small little hot spots there. 125 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,760 Can anyone guess how many cancer cells are in any one of these tumors? 126 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,936 So it's about 100 million cancer cells, 127 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,656 and let me make sure that this number sunk in. 128 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,016 In each and every one of these small little blips 129 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:46,616 that you're seeing on the image, 130 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:50,736 there needs to be at least 100 million cancer cells 131 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:52,296 in order for it to be detected. 132 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,776 Now, if that seemed to you like a very large number, 133 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:56,480 it is a very large number. 134 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,696 This is in fact an incredibly large number, 135 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:03,056 because what we really need in order to pick up something early enough 136 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:06,016 to do something about it, to do something meaningful about it, 137 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,176 well, we need to pick up tumors that are a thousand cells in size, 138 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,336 and ideally just a handful of cells in size. 139 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,376 So we're clearly pretty far away from this. 140 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,656 So we're going to play a little experiment here. 141 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,136 I'm going to ask each of you to now play and imagine 142 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:19,520 that you are brain surgeons. 143 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:24,016 And you guys are now at an operating room, 144 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,056 and there's a patient in front of you, 145 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,800 and your task is to make sure that the tumor is out. 146 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,776 So you're looking down at the patient, 147 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,136 the skin and the skull have already been removed, 148 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:37,696 so you're looking at the brain. 149 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:39,416 And all you know about this patient 150 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,256 is that there's a tumor about the size of a golf ball or so 151 00:06:42,280 --> 00:06:44,600 in the right frontal lobe of this person's brain. 152 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:46,416 And that's more or less it. 153 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,656 So you're looking down, and unfortunately everything looks the same, 154 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,776 because brain cancer tissue and healthy brain tissue 155 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:54,376 really just look the same. 156 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,296 And so you're going in with your thumb, 157 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,656 and you start to press a little bit on the brain, 158 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,096 because tumors tend to be a little harder, stiffer, 159 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,736 and so you go in and go a little bit like this and say, 160 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:05,736 "It seems like the tumor is right there." 161 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,416 Then you take out your knife and start cutting the tumor 162 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:09,696 piece by piece by piece, 163 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:11,416 and as you're taking the tumor out, 164 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,656 then you're getting to a stage where you think, 165 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,816 "All right, I'm done. I took out everything." 166 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:17,376 And at this stage, if that's -- 167 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,096 so far everything sounded, like, pretty crazy -- 168 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:23,816 you're now about to face the most challenging decision of your life here. 169 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:25,376 Because now you need to decide, 170 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,096 should I stop here and let this patient go, 171 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,056 risking that there might be some leftover cancer cells behind 172 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:32,936 that I just couldn't see, 173 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,616 or should I take away some extra margins, 174 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,496 typically about an inch or so around the tumor 175 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,720 just to be sure that I removed everything? 176 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:46,240 So this is not a simple decision to make, 177 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:48,776 and unfortunately this is the decision 178 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:52,136 that brain cancer surgeons have to take every single day 179 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:53,760 as they're seeing their patients. 180 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,256 And so I remember talking to a few friends of mine in the lab, 181 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,656 and we say, "Boy, there's got to be a better way." 182 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:03,096 But not just like you tell a friend that there's got to be a better way. 183 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,073 There's just got to be a better way here. 184 00:08:05,097 --> 00:08:06,616 This is just incredible. 185 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:08,296 And so we looked back. 186 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,296 Remember those PET scans I told you about, the sugar and so on. 187 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,056 We said, hey, how about instead of using sugar molecules, 188 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:17,216 let's maybe take tiny, tiny little particles made of gold 189 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,896 and let's program them with some interesting chemistry around them. 190 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,336 Let's program them to look for cancer cells. 191 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,456 And then we will inject these gold particles 192 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,736 into these patients by the billions again, 193 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:29,736 and we'll have them go all over the body, 194 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:31,736 and just like secret agents, if you will, 195 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,576 go and walk by every single cell in our body 196 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,296 and knock on the door of that cell, 197 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,056 and ask, "Are you a cancer cell or are you a healthy cell? 198 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,096 If you're a healthy cell, we're moving on. 199 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,856 If you're a cancer cell, we're sticking in and shining out 200 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:45,976 and telling us, "Hey, look at me, I'm here." 201 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,376 And they'll do it through some interesting cameras 202 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:49,816 that we developed in the lab. 203 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,775 And once we see that, maybe we can guide brain cancer surgeons 204 00:08:52,799 --> 00:08:56,200 towards taking only the tumor and leaving the healthy brain alone. 205 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,776 And so we've tested that, and boy, this works well. 206 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:01,776 So I'm going to show you an example now. 207 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:03,576 What you're looking at here 208 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:07,536 is an image of a mouse's brain, 209 00:09:07,560 --> 00:09:10,696 and we've implanted into this mouse's brain 210 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:11,976 a small little tumor. 211 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,616 And so this tumor is now growing in this mouse's brain, 212 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,296 and then we've taken a doctor and just asked this doctor 213 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,136 to please operate on the mouse as if that was a patient, 214 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,576 and take out piece by piece out of the tumor, 215 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:24,376 and while he's doing that, 216 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,376 we're going to take images to see where the gold particles are. 217 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,016 And so we're going to first start 218 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,456 by injecting these gold particles into this mouse, 219 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,376 and we're going to see right here at the very left there 220 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:35,656 that image at the bottom 221 00:09:35,680 --> 00:09:38,176 is the image that shows where the gold particles are. 222 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,256 The nice thing is that these gold particles 223 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,296 actually made it all the way to the tumor, 224 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,976 and then they shine out and tell us, "Hey, we're here. Here's the tumor." 225 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:47,376 So now we can see the tumor, 226 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,536 but we're not showing this to the doctor yet. 227 00:09:49,560 --> 00:09:52,616 We're asking the doctor, now please start cutting away the tumor, 228 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:56,056 and you'll see here the doctor just took the first quadrant of the tumor 229 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,296 and you see that first quadrant is now missing. 230 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,776 The doctor then took the second quadrant, the third, 231 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:02,536 and now it appears to be everything. 232 00:10:02,560 --> 00:10:05,296 And so at this stage, the doctor came back to us and said, 233 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,576 "All right, I'm done. What do you want me to do? 234 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,176 Should I keep things as they are 235 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,696 or do you want me to take some extra margins around?" 236 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:13,376 And then we said, "Well, hang on." 237 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,816 We told the doctor, "You've missed those two spots, 238 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:17,840 so rather than taking huge margins around, 239 00:10:17,864 --> 00:10:19,696 only take out those tiny little areas. 240 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,736 Take them out, and then let's take a look." 241 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,616 And so the doctor took them away, and lo and behold, 242 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:26,656 the cancer is now completely gone. 243 00:10:26,680 --> 00:10:28,056 Now, the important thing 244 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,700 is that it's not just that the cancer is completely gone 245 00:10:30,724 --> 00:10:32,056 from this person's brain, 246 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:33,400 or from this mouse's brain. 247 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:35,416 The most important thing 248 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,336 is that we did not have to take huge amounts of healthy brain 249 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:39,576 in the process. 250 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,776 And so now we can actually imagine a world 251 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:45,696 where doctors and surgeons, as they take away a tumor, 252 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:49,160 they actually know what to take out, and they no longer have to guess. 253 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:54,456 Now, here's why it's extremely important to take those tiny little leftover tumors. 254 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,336 Those leftover tumors, even if it's just a handful of cells, 255 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,416 they will grow to recur the tumor, 256 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,096 for the tumor to come back. 257 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,056 In fact, the reason why 80 to 90 percent 258 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,296 of those brain cancer surgeries ultimately fail 259 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:10,096 is because of those small little extra margins that were left positive, 260 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,800 those small little leftover tumors that were left there. 261 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,616 So this is clearly very nice, 262 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:20,936 but what I really want to share with you is where I think we're heading from here. 263 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:22,616 And so in my lab at Stanford, 264 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:28,160 my students and I are asking, what should we be working on now? 265 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,456 And I think where medical imaging is heading to 266 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:33,816 is the ability to look into the human body 267 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:37,280 and actually see each and every one of these cells separately. 268 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:39,736 The ability like this would allow us 269 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,656 to actually pick up tumors way, way earlier in the process, 270 00:11:42,680 --> 00:11:46,600 way before it's 100 million cells inside, so we can actually do something about it. 271 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,616 An ability to see each and every one of the cells might also allow us 272 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:52,016 to ask insightful questions. 273 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,136 So in the lab, we are now getting to a point 274 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,416 where we can actually start asking these cancer cells real questions, 275 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:01,216 like, for example, are you responding to the treatment we are giving you or not? 276 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,696 So if you're not responding, we'll know to stop the treatment right away, 277 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:06,760 days into the treatment, not three months. 278 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,656 And so also for patients like Ehud 279 00:12:09,680 --> 00:12:14,096 that are going through these nasty, nasty chemotherapy drugs, 280 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:15,376 for them not to suffer 281 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,296 through those horrendous side effects of the drugs 282 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,976 when the drugs are in fact not even helping them. 283 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,936 So to be frank here, 284 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,416 we're pretty far away from winning the war against cancer, 285 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:28,696 just to be realistic. 286 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:30,616 But at least I am hopeful 287 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:34,776 that we should be able to fight this war with better medical imaging techniques 288 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:36,656 in the way that is not blind. 289 00:12:36,680 --> 00:12:37,896 Thank you. 290 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,160 (Applause)