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Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.49,0:00:02.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is another concern or fear
Dialogue: 0,0:00:02.97,0:00:05.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you might have for this generation
Dialogue: 0,0:00:05.27,0:00:07.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of young believers that is coming up?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:07.70,0:00:10.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jesse: Another concern that I have
Dialogue: 0,0:00:10.24,0:00:11.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for this generation coming up
Dialogue: 0,0:00:11.87,0:00:16.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is what I call the eclipsing \Nof the Gospel;
Dialogue: 0,0:00:16.32,0:00:18.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the eclipsing of Jesus Christ.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:18.74,0:00:21.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Meaning, whether it's the individual
Dialogue: 0,0:00:21.57,0:00:26.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or the church finding its identity,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.10,0:00:29.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,its hope, its joy, its fellowship,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:29.49,0:00:32.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,its unity in something other than
Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.98,0:00:35.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jesus Christ and the Gospel.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:35.56,0:00:37.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's a very subtle shift
Dialogue: 0,0:00:37.30,0:00:38.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that happens without many people
Dialogue: 0,0:00:38.98,0:00:41.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,noticing that it happens.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:41.26,0:00:43.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So often, so many people will come
Dialogue: 0,0:00:43.33,0:00:44.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the church,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:44.72,0:00:47.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they'll begin to discuss with them
Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.46,0:00:50.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about they're looking for a church.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:50.15,0:00:53.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so often, brother, \Nthere are so many things
Dialogue: 0,0:00:53.04,0:00:56.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people are looking for in the church -
Dialogue: 0,0:00:56.08,0:00:58.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these byproducts of the Gospel;
Dialogue: 0,0:00:58.77,0:01:00.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these byproducts of Jesus Christ,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:00.75,0:01:02.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which are good things,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:02.66,0:01:04.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but they become the source
Dialogue: 0,0:01:04.79,0:01:06.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of their identity,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.17,0:01:08.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they become the source \Nof their fellowship;
Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.67,0:01:11.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they're what they're \Nlooking for in a church,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.17,0:01:14.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they don't ask questions \Nabout Jesus Christ or the Gospel,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.42,0:01:16.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's a great concern.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.20,0:01:18.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,James: Maybe you could \Ngive some examples there.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:18.55,0:01:20.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What are things you've seen people
Dialogue: 0,0:01:20.33,0:01:21.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,looking for too much
Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.66,0:01:24.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,instead of the essentials of the Gospel?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.30,0:01:28.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jesse: I'll start with this.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.01,0:01:33.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How about the whole \Nfamily integration thought?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:33.48,0:01:36.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just this last week,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.29,0:01:38.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a couple of young people \Ncame into the church,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:38.59,0:01:40.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,seemed like passionate,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.55,0:01:42.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,excited people.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.27,0:01:45.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the very first comments and questions
Dialogue: 0,0:01:45.12,0:01:47.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were about family integration,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:47.77,0:01:49.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,family worship.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.38,0:01:52.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Brother, our church worships \Ntogether in that sense.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:52.87,0:01:56.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And my home - we practice family worship.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:56.45,0:01:58.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But when those things become
Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.56,0:02:01.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the mark and identity of a church,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:01.06,0:02:03.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or the mark and identity of the believer,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:03.89,0:02:05.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the evidence you can see
Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.38,0:02:06.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that this is happening
Dialogue: 0,0:02:06.75,0:02:09.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is this is what you talk about most.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:09.27,0:02:11.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is what you're passionate about most.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:11.90,0:02:14.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is how you base your fellowship,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:14.90,0:02:17.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even within the church -
Dialogue: 0,0:02:17.04,0:02:19.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those who affirm you in these truths,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:19.20,0:02:21.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those who practice in conscience
Dialogue: 0,0:02:21.51,0:02:22.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the same things that you do
Dialogue: 0,0:02:22.90,0:02:24.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whether it's homeschooling
Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.30,0:02:26.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or how you do family worship.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.26,0:02:27.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the moment those things
Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.69,0:02:30.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,become the foundation of our relationship
Dialogue: 0,0:02:30.76,0:02:32.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or the identity of the church,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.91,0:02:35.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Christ is no longer that foundation,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:35.75,0:02:38.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,inevitably, it will crumble.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:38.79,0:02:40.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Question: What are the biggest dangers
Dialogue: 0,0:02:40.77,0:02:42.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,confronting the church today?\N
Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.89,0:02:45.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The reformed church specifically?
Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.14,0:02:47.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jesse: It's kind of getting back to that
Dialogue: 0,0:02:47.15,0:02:49.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whole eclipsing of Jesus Christ.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.99,0:02:51.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm going to preach on this here
Dialogue: 0,0:02:51.100,0:02:54.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on Saturday.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.16,0:02:55.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A great concern I have,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.81,0:02:58.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,especially in reformed circles:
Dialogue: 0,0:02:58.45,0:03:01.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all genuine Christians love God,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.46,0:03:03.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they love truth, they love doctrine.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.69,0:03:05.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But in reformed circles,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.62,0:03:07.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's like we're known for our doctrine.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:07.78,0:03:12.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Those are the doctrinally \Nfocused, sound people.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:12.32,0:03:15.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We study through Revelation 2 -
Dialogue: 0,0:03:15.17,0:03:17.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the letter to the church at Ephesus.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.78,0:03:20.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if you've ever read \Nwhat Jesus commends
Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.69,0:03:22.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about that church,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.01,0:03:25.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they're a doctrinally sound church.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:25.25,0:03:27.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They toil in truth.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:27.74,0:03:28.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They defend truth.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:28.94,0:03:30.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They expose false teachers.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.75,0:03:32.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They can't stand evil.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:32.19,0:03:33.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They can't stand the Nicolaitans
Dialogue: 0,0:03:33.91,0:03:36.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they're commended for all of that,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.04,0:03:38.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but then Jesus says to them,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.71,0:03:40.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"But I have this against you,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:40.45,0:03:42.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you've left your first love."
Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.44,0:03:43.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, you might say,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:43.49,0:03:45.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well, that was a love for Jesus Christ
Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.38,0:03:46.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I would agree with you.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.83,0:03:50.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But here's the concern I have:
Dialogue: 0,0:03:50.11,0:03:52.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think our love for Jesus Christ
Dialogue: 0,0:03:52.00,0:03:54.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is most manifested for its true sense
Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.72,0:03:56.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in our love for His people.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:56.91,0:03:58.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In other words, I love Jesus.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.54,0:04:00.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, how do I know I love Jesus?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:00.12,0:04:02.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, it's evident in the way that I love
Dialogue: 0,0:04:02.13,0:04:04.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and treat His people, the church.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:04.49,0:04:06.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what that church was warned about
Dialogue: 0,0:04:06.28,0:04:09.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is what we might call loveless orthodoxy.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:09.85,0:04:13.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the concern I have \Nfor the reformed church
Dialogue: 0,0:04:13.78,0:04:18.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that we can have all of \Nour doctrinal positions right;
Dialogue: 0,0:04:18.42,0:04:22.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we can debate them left and right,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.14,0:04:24.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we lack love -
Dialogue: 0,0:04:24.09,0:04:27.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a love for God and a love for His people.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:27.49,0:04:30.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's a subtle shift again.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:30.12,0:04:32.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People will say how can I have
Dialogue: 0,0:04:32.13,0:04:34.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all my doctrine right and still struggle?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.92,0:04:37.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And throughout the Bible, we see examples
Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.42,0:04:40.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of churches that have \Ntheir doctrine right,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:40.82,0:04:42.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but they struggle with love towards God
Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.75,0:04:44.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and love towards the church.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:44.93,0:04:47.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Paul says in 1 Corinthians 13,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:47.36,0:04:49.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if I have all understanding,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.86,0:04:52.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all knowledge, but I have not love...
Dialogue: 0,0:04:52.54,0:04:54.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the notion is I can have
Dialogue: 0,0:04:54.12,0:04:55.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some of these things
Dialogue: 0,0:04:55.41,0:04:57.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and be lacking in love.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:57.63,0:05:00.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think one of the \Nthings we need to do
Dialogue: 0,0:05:00.13,0:05:01.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the reformed church
Dialogue: 0,0:05:01.60,0:05:05.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is mark loveless orthodoxy
Dialogue: 0,0:05:05.23,0:05:08.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as sin that needs to be repented of.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:08.92,0:05:11.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not something, oh, \Nwe should do better in.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.15,0:05:12.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's sin to be repented of.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:12.93,0:05:14.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The warning Jesus gave to that church
Dialogue: 0,0:05:14.99,0:05:17.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is, "Repent and return,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:17.34,0:05:20.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or I'll take away your lampstand."
Dialogue: 0,0:05:20.38,0:05:22.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's as serious as it gets.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:22.69,0:05:25.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this eclipsing of Jesus Christ,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:25.54,0:05:28.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,finding identity in something \Nother than Christ,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:28.66,0:05:32.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or believing we're good because\Nwe have our doctrine right,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:32.06,0:05:33.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but if we lack love,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:33.89,0:05:35.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're nothing.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:35.42,0:05:37.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here's what I struggle with \Nso much in this, James,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:37.98,0:05:40.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that when I preach on this subject -
Dialogue: 0,0:05:40.27,0:05:43.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I've preached on it, I think,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:43.56,0:05:45.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,probably ten times between men's meetings
Dialogue: 0,0:05:45.97,0:05:48.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the service and different things -
Dialogue: 0,0:05:48.03,0:05:50.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ten times in the last year.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.24,0:05:53.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I keep getting accused of:
Dialogue: 0,0:05:53.07,0:05:55.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well, you just are minimizing doctrine.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:55.32,0:05:58.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're saying that parts of \NGod's Word are not important.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:58.83,0:06:01.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm like, listen, I've given my life
Dialogue: 0,0:06:01.66,0:06:04.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the study and preaching \Nand teaching of doctrine.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:04.82,0:06:08.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I've come to realize by God's grace,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:08.24,0:06:10.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can be right in your doctrine
Dialogue: 0,0:06:10.28,0:06:12.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and absolutely wrong.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:12.85,0:06:15.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I don't think people realize that.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:15.19,0:06:16.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can have the right doctrine
Dialogue: 0,0:06:16.91,0:06:20.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and be nothing.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:20.59,0:06:24.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so what's the mark of maturity?
Dialogue: 0,0:06:24.21,0:06:25.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the reformed circle?
Dialogue: 0,0:06:25.70,0:06:27.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Having all your doctrine right.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:27.64,0:06:30.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What's the mark of maturity in Scripture?
Dialogue: 0,0:06:30.66,0:06:32.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Love.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:32.80,0:06:34.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Love.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:34.66,0:06:39.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We begin to look at people as positions,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:39.95,0:06:43.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where our conversations are not anymore:
Dialogue: 0,0:06:43.50,0:06:45.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"how are you doing, brother?"
Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.79,0:06:48.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"What's going on at your workplace?"
Dialogue: 0,0:06:48.26,0:06:50.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"How is your marriage going?"
Dialogue: 0,0:06:50.53,0:06:54.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is, "where are you \Nat in this position?"
Dialogue: 0,0:06:54.94,0:06:56.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And brother, they're not people anymore.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:56.91,0:06:59.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're just viewing people as positions
Dialogue: 0,0:06:59.18,0:07:02.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to win over to my camp.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:02.01,0:07:05.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Be careful.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:05.66,0:07:07.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Be careful.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:07.92,0:07:10.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of the sermons I preached on
Dialogue: 0,0:07:10.32,0:07:13.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was Romans 14 in this.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:13.06,0:07:15.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'll mention it some in the sermon,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:15.12,0:07:16.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because this is not only, James,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:16.92,0:07:20.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the doctrines that we hold to,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:20.18,0:07:22.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it's also in the living out
Dialogue: 0,0:07:22.86,0:07:26.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of our doctrines and convictions.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:26.59,0:07:29.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what I find so interesting \Nabout Romans 14 -
Dialogue: 0,0:07:29.58,0:07:32.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you say what does Romans 14 about?
Dialogue: 0,0:07:32.47,0:07:34.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh, it's about Christian \Nliberty and conscience.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:34.95,0:07:36.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, it's not.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:36.50,0:07:38.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's about living out love in the middle
Dialogue: 0,0:07:38.79,0:07:41.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of a church that has differences.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:41.78,0:07:44.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it deals with Christian \Nliberty and conscience,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:44.21,0:07:45.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but how do you deal with someone
Dialogue: 0,0:07:45.78,0:07:48.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who has a different understanding?
Dialogue: 0,0:07:48.66,0:07:50.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know what I love about Romans 14
Dialogue: 0,0:07:50.71,0:07:52.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more than anything?
Dialogue: 0,0:07:52.26,0:07:53.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is Paul acknowledges:
Dialogue: 0,0:07:53.80,0:07:56.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this brother has it wrong.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:56.33,0:07:59.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he doesn't really correct him.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:59.20,0:08:01.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,His greater concern is this:
Dialogue: 0,0:08:01.58,0:08:05.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Are we welcoming one another?
Dialogue: 0,0:08:05.20,0:08:07.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now think of that.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:07.03,0:08:09.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This brother - he says he has \Na wrong understanding.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:09.58,0:08:12.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He is weak in faith,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:12.01,0:08:14.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's leading him to make decisions
Dialogue: 0,0:08:14.71,0:08:16.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that are wrong.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:16.92,0:08:18.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Paul acknowledges it.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:18.71,0:08:19.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But he doesn't say:
Dialogue: 0,0:08:19.100,0:08:23.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Go over there and correct your \Nbrother to the right doctrine.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:23.19,0:08:24.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He says: Are you welcoming him?
Dialogue: 0,0:08:24.94,0:08:26.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Are you loving him
Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.84,0:08:29.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as Christ has welcomed you?
Dialogue: 0,0:08:29.28,0:08:31.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that doesn't mean \Nwe're indifferent to doctrine
Dialogue: 0,0:08:31.76,0:08:33.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or we don't talk about it.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:33.31,0:08:35.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But there's a spirit \Nthat if it's not there
Dialogue: 0,0:08:35.81,0:08:38.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can have all the right \Ndoctrine in the world
Dialogue: 0,0:08:38.10,0:08:40.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it means nothing.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:40.58,0:08:43.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, Lord, help us, brother.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:43.15,0:08:45.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Question: After studying and preaching
Dialogue: 0,0:08:45.09,0:08:47.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your recent series on, "Maintaining Unity
Dialogue: 0,0:08:47.13,0:08:48.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the Midst of Diversity,"
Dialogue: 0,0:08:48.71,0:08:50.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what do you look back on
Dialogue: 0,0:08:50.38,0:08:52.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and say most impacted you
Dialogue: 0,0:08:52.44,0:08:54.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from your studies?
Dialogue: 0,0:08:54.17,0:08:56.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jesse: I think the most impactful study
Dialogue: 0,0:08:56.75,0:09:00.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I got from the study there personally
Dialogue: 0,0:09:00.88,0:09:06.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was I thought I was a \Nmuch more loving person.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:06.54,0:09:10.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I realized that the way Paul
Dialogue: 0,0:09:10.78,0:09:14.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,understands love is that we should not
Dialogue: 0,0:09:14.57,0:09:17.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,measure our love based on
Dialogue: 0,0:09:17.84,0:09:20.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how we get along and respond with those
Dialogue: 0,0:09:20.53,0:09:22.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who agree with us,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:22.85,0:09:25.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but rather it's with those who disagree
Dialogue: 0,0:09:25.60,0:09:27.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or offend us.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:27.96,0:09:30.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So if we surround ourselves with people
Dialogue: 0,0:09:30.05,0:09:31.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who just affirm us,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:31.05,0:09:33.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and who agree on every point of doctrine,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:33.02,0:09:34.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hold to all the same convictions,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:34.66,0:09:36.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and have the same passions that we do,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:36.60,0:09:38.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we sit around and \Njust affirm each other,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:38.87,0:09:40.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you might look at that and say,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:40.36,0:09:41.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,look how loving we are.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:41.95,0:09:43.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm not questioning whether that's
Dialogue: 0,0:09:43.78,0:09:45.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,genuine love or not.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:45.48,0:09:47.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I'm saying is though
Dialogue: 0,0:09:47.22,0:09:50.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the true reality or depth, you could say,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:50.35,0:09:52.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of your love for people,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:52.95,0:09:55.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is measured in how you respond
Dialogue: 0,0:09:55.24,0:09:57.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with those who do not agree;
Dialogue: 0,0:09:57.51,0:10:00.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with those who hold \Nto different convictions;
Dialogue: 0,0:10:00.46,0:10:03.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with those who have offended you.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:03.18,0:10:05.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is how you respond \Nin those circumstances
Dialogue: 0,0:10:05.85,0:10:08.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and those situations that reveals
Dialogue: 0,0:10:08.34,0:10:10.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the depth of our love.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:10.88,0:10:13.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'll go further than that.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:13.09,0:10:17.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it reveals the depth \Nof our love for Jesus.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:17.10,0:10:18.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think sometimes we can believe,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:18.83,0:10:22.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,oh, I love Jesus, it's just \Nthese immature Christians
Dialogue: 0,0:10:22.50,0:10:24.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who don't see it the way I do -
Dialogue: 0,0:10:24.19,0:10:25.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they I struggle with.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:25.76,0:10:27.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But as I read through Scripture,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:27.56,0:10:30.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think of 1 John 3.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:30.11,0:10:32.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How can you love God
Dialogue: 0,0:10:32.53,0:10:33.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whom you have not seen
Dialogue: 0,0:10:33.84,0:10:35.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when you can't even love your brother
Dialogue: 0,0:10:35.62,0:10:37.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who you do see?
Dialogue: 0,0:10:37.08,0:10:38.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In other words, this:
Dialogue: 0,0:10:38.45,0:10:41.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Our love for Christ is always displayed
Dialogue: 0,0:10:41.39,0:10:43.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in our love for the church;
Dialogue: 0,0:10:43.36,0:10:44.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in our love for others.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:44.90,0:10:48.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So our vertical love is always \Nmanifested horizontally.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:48.60,0:10:50.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or you could say the depth of it.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:50.74,0:10:53.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And again, to take what Paul said then,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:53.42,0:10:55.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the reality of your love horizontally
Dialogue: 0,0:10:55.94,0:10:57.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is not with those who agree.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:57.91,0:11:00.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's with those who disagree.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:00.50,0:11:02.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I went into that thinking,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:02.48,0:11:05.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm a pretty loving guy.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:05.07,0:11:07.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I walked away from it realizing,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:07.93,0:11:10.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have so much room to grow in my love
Dialogue: 0,0:11:10.89,0:11:12.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as I look how I respond to those
Dialogue: 0,0:11:12.85,0:11:16.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who disagree or offend me.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:16.01,0:11:17.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Another thing I learned from that
Dialogue: 0,0:11:17.88,0:11:20.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is I've watched people
Dialogue: 0,0:11:20.91,0:11:22.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when they have disagreements
Dialogue: 0,0:11:22.76,0:11:24.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maybe in doctrine or convictions
Dialogue: 0,0:11:24.81,0:11:26.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or how they live out their convictions -
Dialogue: 0,0:11:26.82,0:11:28.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how they begin to treat
Dialogue: 0,0:11:28.65,0:11:32.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,other genuine Christians, other believers.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:32.19,0:11:35.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's almost like they create subgroups
Dialogue: 0,0:11:35.72,0:11:36.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or you might say,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:36.82,0:11:39.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,second-class Christians.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:39.49,0:11:41.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I want to remind us all
Dialogue: 0,0:11:41.58,0:11:44.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that there are no second-class Christians.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:44.100,0:11:47.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That Jesus Christ identifies
Dialogue: 0,0:11:47.52,0:11:49.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the genuine believer who holds
Dialogue: 0,0:11:49.87,0:11:52.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the lowest view of doctrine;
Dialogue: 0,0:11:52.23,0:11:54.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the struggling Christian.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:54.88,0:11:56.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He identifies with them.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:56.81,0:12:00.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm really struggling in my own life
Dialogue: 0,0:12:00.04,0:12:02.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in the church and the church abroad
Dialogue: 0,0:12:02.14,0:12:04.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the response I'm seeing
Dialogue: 0,0:12:04.79,0:12:06.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where people will say things like this:
Dialogue: 0,0:12:06.71,0:12:08.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Yes, we agree in the Gospel
Dialogue: 0,0:12:08.60,0:12:09.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in Jesus Christ,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:09.93,0:12:11.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but in this other area of doctrine,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:11.76,0:12:13.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we don't see eye-to-eye,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:13.28,0:12:17.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and therefore I can't \Nfellowship with you anymore."
Dialogue: 0,0:12:17.85,0:12:20.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's that eclipsing of Jesus again.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:20.45,0:12:24.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Brother, if you agree in Jesus Christ
Dialogue: 0,0:12:24.30,0:12:26.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the Gospel,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:26.27,0:12:28.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not minimizing all the other doctrines
Dialogue: 0,0:12:28.71,0:12:30.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the Bible - they're important;
Dialogue: 0,0:12:30.65,0:12:32.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they're God's Word -
Dialogue: 0,0:12:32.51,0:12:34.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we have so much in common
Dialogue: 0,0:12:34.93,0:12:37.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Christ and the Gospel,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:37.14,0:12:39.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then you begin to maximize
Dialogue: 0,0:12:39.19,0:12:41.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these other areas.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:41.99,0:12:45.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I struggle to even use the term, \Nbecause people get so angry at me.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:45.44,0:12:47.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Non-salvific doctrine.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:47.58,0:12:49.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But listen, there are other doctrines
Dialogue: 0,0:12:49.43,0:12:52.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you can be wrong \Nin and still be saved.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:52.35,0:12:54.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think Dr. Mohler did a great job
Dialogue: 0,0:12:54.26,0:12:55.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in helping in this.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:55.24,0:12:57.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He called it spiritual triage.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:57.49,0:12:59.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he wrote, listen, we don't treat
Dialogue: 0,0:12:59.23,0:13:00.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a skinned knee like we do
Dialogue: 0,0:13:00.83,0:13:02.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a gunshot wound to the chest.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:02.99,0:13:06.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we have to have a doctrinal triage
Dialogue: 0,0:13:06.53,0:13:09.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at some level, so that if you and I
Dialogue: 0,0:13:09.17,0:13:12.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can't agree on some level of eschatology,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:12.26,0:13:14.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we see eye-to-eye on Jesus Christ,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:14.52,0:13:16.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,justified by grace through faith alone,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:16.63,0:13:18.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're my brother.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:18.26,0:13:19.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We can be in fellowship.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:19.64,0:13:21.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We may not be able to pastor together,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:21.56,0:13:23.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we can be in fellowship,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:23.10,0:13:25.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I need to treat you with the same love
Dialogue: 0,0:13:25.18,0:13:27.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I would treat anybody else.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:27.08,0:13:28.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And brother, I'm not seeing that.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:28.75,0:13:31.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm seeing divisions after \Ndivisions after divisions.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:31.92,0:13:34.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's concerning.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:34.42,0:13:36.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,James: And why do you \Nthink the devil wants that?
Dialogue: 0,0:13:36.98,0:13:40.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jesse: Well, when the church is divided,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:40.32,0:13:42.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something other than Jesus becomes
Dialogue: 0,0:13:42.04,0:13:44.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the basis of our unity.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:44.25,0:13:45.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Something other than Jesus becomes
Dialogue: 0,0:13:45.87,0:13:47.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the basis of our fellowship.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:47.82,0:13:49.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the moment that happens
Dialogue: 0,0:13:49.30,0:13:51.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's not Christ as the \Nfoundation anymore,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:51.75,0:13:54.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the inevitability is we crumble.