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Dialogue: 0,0:00:08.68,0:00:11.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Fred Wilson: Beauty & Ugliness]
Dialogue: 0,0:00:11.81,0:00:14.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Beauty...
Dialogue: 0,0:00:14.50,0:00:16.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Beauty, beauty, beauty...
Dialogue: 0,0:00:16.66,0:00:18.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm really interested in beauty.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:18.72,0:00:20.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Venice Biennale, 2003]
Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.90,0:00:22.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm interested in beauty
Dialogue: 0,0:00:22.31,0:00:24.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you think of beauty as
Dialogue: 0,0:00:24.22,0:00:25.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"an ultimate visual experience."
Dialogue: 0,0:00:25.75,0:00:27.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I'm also interested in beauty
Dialogue: 0,0:00:27.56,0:00:33.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in that it can hide meaning.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.58,0:00:38.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The world is complex,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:38.47,0:00:40.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and often we try to
Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.18,0:00:40.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,separate out all of these experiences.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.65,0:00:43.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"This is beautiful." "This is ugly."
Dialogue: 0,0:00:43.99,0:00:46.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"This is a beautiful experience--that's all it is..."
Dialogue: 0,0:00:46.18,0:00:47.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"...there is no meaning."
Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.65,0:00:57.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or, "the meaning is not important."
Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.82,0:00:59.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People have to deal with the fact that
Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.45,0:01:03.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there is meaning in beauty--
Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.05,0:01:04.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there is meaning in ugliness.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:04.81,0:01:05.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[The Studio Museum in Harlem, 2004]
Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.76,0:01:08.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, in a lot of my work--if I can--
Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.93,0:01:18.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I try to bring out that tension.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:18.33,0:01:20.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The whipping post and chairs is a perfect example
Dialogue: 0,0:01:20.10,0:01:21.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because chairs are really beautiful;
Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.41,0:01:25.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that whipping post is certainly not.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.30,0:01:27.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whipping post and chairs were from the first exhibition I did
Dialogue: 0,0:01:27.17,0:01:29.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with museum collections.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:29.73,0:01:31.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was at the Maryland Historical Society in 1992.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:31.94,0:01:39.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a very traditional display in a certain way.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.19,0:01:41.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's no manipulation of the objects
Dialogue: 0,0:01:41.05,0:01:42.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,other than their positioning.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.56,0:01:44.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that changes the meaning,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.72,0:01:46.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or the relationship,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.82,0:01:48.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or how you think about them.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:48.14,0:01:50.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is everything that I'm about
Dialogue: 0,0:01:50.47,0:01:51.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when I'm working with museums
Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.67,0:01:55.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and quite often when I'm working in my studio.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.65,0:01:59.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Looking at high-end decorative arts in the chairs
Dialogue: 0,0:01:59.06,0:02:02.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the whipping post,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.56,0:02:03.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they have a very different history,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:03.97,0:02:06.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it relates very directly in that
Dialogue: 0,0:02:06.41,0:02:08.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those people who sat in the chairs
Dialogue: 0,0:02:08.20,0:02:10.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had some relationship with
Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.63,0:02:18.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those who were on the whipping post.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.17,0:02:20.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not acknowledging that things are complex--
Dialogue: 0,0:02:20.28,0:02:22.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that beauty is complex--
Dialogue: 0,0:02:22.82,0:02:24.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that that's the problem,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.73,0:02:26.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that people want to do that.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.49,0:02:29.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I enjoy making it complex for people,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.32,0:02:32.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[LAUGHS]
Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.29,0:02:35.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because that's my world, you know.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:35.05,0:02:37.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[LAUGHS]
Dialogue: 0,0:02:37.62,0:02:41.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Fred Wilson: Beauty & Ugliness | "Exclusive" | Art21