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Dialogue: 0,0:00:07.44,0:00:12.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Fred Wilson: Beauty & Ugliness]
Dialogue: 0,0:00:13.14,0:00:13.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Beauty...
Dialogue: 0,0:00:14.14,0:00:15.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Beauty, beauty, beauty...
Dialogue: 0,0:00:15.31,0:00:17.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm really interested in beauty.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:19.13,0:00:20.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Venice Biennale, 2003]
Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.10,0:00:21.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm interested in beauty
Dialogue: 0,0:00:21.40,0:00:23.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you think of beauty as
Dialogue: 0,0:00:23.10,0:00:24.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"an ultimate visual experience."
Dialogue: 0,0:00:25.16,0:00:27.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I'm also interested in beauty
Dialogue: 0,0:00:27.17,0:00:32.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in that it can hide meaning.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:37.27,0:00:38.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The world is complex,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:38.68,0:00:40.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and often we try to
Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.30,0:00:42.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,separate out all of these experiences.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.41,0:00:43.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"This is beautiful." "This is ugly."
Dialogue: 0,0:00:44.07,0:00:46.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"This is a beautiful experience--that's all it is..."
Dialogue: 0,0:00:46.46,0:00:47.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"...there is no meaning."
Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.48,0:00:49.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or, "the meaning is not important."
Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.83,0:00:59.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People have to deal with the fact that
Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.84,0:01:02.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there is meaning in beauty--
Dialogue: 0,0:01:02.94,0:01:04.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there is meaning in ugliness.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:04.92,0:01:06.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[The Studio Museum in Harlem, 2004]
Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.14,0:01:08.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, in a lot of my work--if I can--
Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.78,0:01:12.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I try to bring out that tension.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:17.62,0:01:19.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The whipping post and chairs is a perfect example
Dialogue: 0,0:01:19.46,0:01:20.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because chairs are really beautiful;
Dialogue: 0,0:01:20.99,0:01:22.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that whipping post is certainly not.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.17,0:01:28.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whipping post and chairs were from the first exhibition I did
Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.13,0:01:29.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with museum collections.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:29.96,0:01:32.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was at the Maryland Historical Society in 1992.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.07,0:01:38.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a very traditional display in a certain way.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.28,0:01:40.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's no manipulation of the objects
Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.87,0:01:42.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,other than their positioning.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.94,0:01:44.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that changes the meaning,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.54,0:01:46.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or the relationship,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.62,0:01:48.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or how you think about them.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:48.07,0:01:49.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is everything that I'm about
Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.58,0:01:50.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when I'm working with museums
Dialogue: 0,0:01:50.97,0:01:52.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and quite often when I'm working in my studio.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.73,0:02:00.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Looking at high-end decorative arts in the chairs
Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.30,0:02:02.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the whipping post,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.24,0:02:04.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they have a very different history,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.01,0:02:06.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it relates very directly in that
Dialogue: 0,0:02:06.28,0:02:08.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those people who sat in the chairs
Dialogue: 0,0:02:08.01,0:02:09.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had some relationship with
Dialogue: 0,0:02:09.84,0:02:12.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those who were on the whipping post.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.94,0:02:21.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not acknowledging that things are complex--
Dialogue: 0,0:02:21.38,0:02:22.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that beauty is complex--
Dialogue: 0,0:02:22.58,0:02:24.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that that's the problem,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.67,0:02:26.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that people want to do that.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.41,0:02:29.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I enjoy making it complex for people,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.38,0:02:31.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[LAUGHS]
Dialogue: 0,0:02:33.22,0:02:35.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because that's my world, you know.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:35.50,0:02:36.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[LAUGHS]
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Fred Wilson: Beauty & Ugliness | "Exclusive" | Art21