1 00:00:00,460 --> 00:00:04,920 Wilson and myself says "Hi and welcome" to everyone for this channel update, 2 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:07,200 for the Wintergatan youtube channel. 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:12,120 I have some upcoming changes, that I'm really excited about, that I want to 4 00:00:12,220 --> 00:00:16,100 communicate very carefully with you about in this video. 5 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:20,720 So that's why we're here today, sitting on this beautiful desk, but first: 6 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:24,800 Have you seen the MMXS by Love Hultén? 7 00:00:24,900 --> 00:00:32,280 This is an amazing miniature Marble Machine X and Love Hultén is an amazing Swedish artist 8 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:38,080 who built these different arcade machines and a lot of amazing amazing art. 9 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:44,100 If you haven't seen the video, I just encourage you to go watch it because it's really, really, really cool! 10 00:00:44,100 --> 00:00:47,580 I just want to give a huge shout-out to Love Hultén. 11 00:00:47,580 --> 00:00:53,300 I get very inspired from seeing something designed so cleanly and so pragmatic. 12 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,740 Since I came back to France from Sweden in the end of January 13 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:01,900 I've been working six days out of seven without break on the Marble Machine X. 14 00:01:02,100 --> 00:01:06,200 I've been really upping my efficiency. I've been... 15 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:10,520 searching and trying in every little corner of my... 16 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:17,020 of myself and of my life, for how to become an efficient worker and stop procrastination. 17 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,040 And I... I've kind of nailed it. [laughs] 18 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,300 I've been... 19 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:27,900 really really doing great work for, like, seven months 20 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,100 and if you look at the Marble Machine X, 21 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,880 from January to today, 22 00:01:33,940 --> 00:01:36,180 it's not a huge difference. 23 00:01:36,320 --> 00:01:38,660 And I'm really working efficiently, so 24 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:43,520 I feel that I have to lift on some other stones to see 25 00:01:43,660 --> 00:01:50,180 If I can unleash another set of resources to finish this project. 26 00:01:50,220 --> 00:01:55,080 And when I look back at this six months, I'm thinking about what I've done, 27 00:01:55,180 --> 00:02:00,320 the glaring elephant in the room is that I spend all my best energy 28 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:05,640 and my highest attention and focus onto making these videos. [laughs] 29 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:12,760 The chunk of my time is invested in making the documentation about the art piece. 30 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:18,180 That is problematic and since the release of the first Marble Machine video 31 00:02:18,220 --> 00:02:25,400 the amount of attention and appreciation and understanding my creations have received on youtube 32 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:31,820 has been so rewarding and just an amazing journey for me personally, but... 33 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:37,920 But, but, but, but, but... as I said, the chunk of my time and attention, 34 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:40,480 maybe 70 percent 35 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:44,000 of my thought process goes into the youtube videos. 36 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,000 And it's too much. 37 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,200 We tried to... 38 00:02:49,340 --> 00:02:55,300 lower my involvement in the video making and I tried to step away... 39 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,560 And the thing is that I feel so personally 40 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:03,140 for whatever I put out on the internet with my name on it, 41 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:08,060 so I don't really have that... option. [laughs] 42 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:12,900 So let's go back to the master plan map with Sisyphus going up the mountain. 43 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,800 I am still on the same mountain and... 44 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,600 I have to take the responsibility 45 00:03:20,700 --> 00:03:23,080 to not stay on this mountain... 46 00:03:23,340 --> 00:03:24,800 eh... forever. 47 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:28,980 The ultimate goal with this machine is to make music. 48 00:03:28,980 --> 00:03:33,440 If I just have a functioning machine, it's like a shell without a soul. 49 00:03:33,660 --> 00:03:38,500 It's like an AI life-size robot that can't have a conversation with you. [laughs] 50 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:45,280 As it works today, I'm sculpting my artistic process to fit in to the weekly upload schedule. 51 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:49,020 I chapter everything I do on the machine 52 00:03:49,060 --> 00:03:51,840 into some kind of thematic lumps 53 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,360 that we can turn into videos. 54 00:03:54,367 --> 00:03:56,830 The process is built from the ground up 55 00:03:56,830 --> 00:03:59,200 by the intention of making a video. 56 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:05,360 This means that my processes are not designed to be as efficient as possible for the completion of the machine. 57 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:09,440 If you remember a couple of weeks ago when I was thinking about the marble divider redesign, 58 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,160 when I took the decision to not release a video; 59 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:18,820 that Wednesday when I dropped the thought of video and started to think about mechanical designs instead, 60 00:04:18,820 --> 00:04:22,560 like, 100 percent for that day, was one of the best days 61 00:04:22,620 --> 00:04:25,080 I've had for a long time in my studio... 62 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,280 Because I felt I had like these oceans of time 63 00:04:28,280 --> 00:04:33,180 and my creativity has always been like highly dependent on this free amount of time, 64 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:37,280 where I'm just, like, in a... in an ocean of time, and there's nothing else; 65 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,937 and I know that if I can just find a seed of a good idea, 66 00:04:40,940 --> 00:04:43,680 I can craft it into something beautiful. 67 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:48,880 I don't find the place for this kind of creative process within the weekly upload schedule. 68 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:53,660 My therapist said something great about formal and informal contracts, 69 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:57,380 and this might sound very dull, but I love the concept: 70 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:03,480 I feel I have built up an informal contract with everyone who are watching this series; 71 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:10,600 that I'm gonna bring you in to see me finish this process, and I will! 72 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:14,060 So the word "contract" makes this feel, like, super binding and negative. 73 00:05:14,060 --> 00:05:16,460 That's absolutely not at all what I mean here. 74 00:05:16,460 --> 00:05:20,034 What I mean here is that this is actually really inspiring for me. 75 00:05:20,034 --> 00:05:24,440 I feel a responsibility to show you what this machine can do, 76 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,900 and I need to do whatever I need to do to make that happen. 77 00:05:27,900 --> 00:05:33,600 And when we come to the situation that the weekly videos are obstructing the path 78 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:37,180 for the Marble Machine X to become reality, 79 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:43,040 the weekly videos has to give way for the Marble Machine X completion. 80 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:48,700 What I'm going to do is that I'm going to skip the weekly upload schedule. 81 00:05:48,700 --> 00:05:52,980 And I'm going to keep making videos; more epic, more relevant videos. 82 00:05:52,980 --> 00:05:55,760 Videos that I feel 100 percent great about. 83 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,960 Videos that I really think are worthy of your time. 84 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:04,120 So whenever something worth covering has happened in the process, I will make a video about that, 85 00:06:04,260 --> 00:06:08,640 and, hopefully, it will be more exciting and better than ever. 86 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:13,800 And... I've been trying hard to make the Wednesdays exciting but... 87 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:18,400 The artistic process that I'm going through is not always really exciting. 88 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,980 It's mostly like a monumental grind. 89 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:26,580 I remember a comment a viewer made when I made a similar statement some years ago. 90 00:06:26,580 --> 00:06:28,860 I've been talking about this non-stop. 91 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:34,640 The viewer said, like basically, "You do you. We support you!" and 92 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:41,240 "It's only a shame for us because the window through which we look into your beautiful world gets smaller." 93 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,580 And that comment stayed with me and I kind of... 94 00:06:44,580 --> 00:06:46,479 I kind of agree... 95 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:52,560 But we are now choosing between panoramic window looking into 96 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:57,100 nothing being finished, nothing being created, no music being done; 97 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:03,920 or a little peephole into the future where we're gonna explode the walls 98 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:07,080 and actually go on a world tour 99 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:11,060 with music that makes the hair on my arm stand up, okay? 100 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:15,840 I want to propel the project to that phase as quickly and as beautifully as possible, 101 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:19,980 I think one of the largest qualities that I can show you 102 00:07:20,020 --> 00:07:22,600 is the power of delayed gratification 103 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:26,180 and the power of, like, latent potential when you 104 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,040 give your best into a project for a long time and you don't give up. 105 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,744 I've no clue how often a video will come out, 106 00:07:31,744 --> 00:07:34,580 which leads me to addressing especially 107 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,120 all the youtube members and all the patrons. 108 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:41,540 First of all, I'm amazed what you have done for me 109 00:07:41,540 --> 00:07:44,060 and that you put me in a position 110 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:48,660 where I am free to think about art 24/7. 111 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:53,080 I want to take your generous gift to me. 112 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:54,900 You have given me time. 113 00:07:54,900 --> 00:07:56,780 I want to take your gift 114 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:58,800 and take care of it. 115 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:04,760 And I want to make the best possible use that I can of my time that you have given me. 116 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:09,120 So, depending on how you feel about your support and what the support is for, 117 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:14,620 you might reconsider your support at this moment and I fully, fully understand that. 118 00:08:14,620 --> 00:08:18,240 If you feel you want to support 119 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:22,760 the music part of what I'm doing and the machine, 120 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:27,420 then I hope you understand I'm doing this for the music and for the machine. 121 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:32,260 I am not working less, I'm going to work smarter. 122 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:39,820 Okay, so I think there is now, like, maybe 300 000 people thinking this thought: 123 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:45,020 "But Martin, what if you just make simpler videos?" [laughs] 124 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:50,180 I've been having the same question mark in my head for two years, 125 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:54,940 I've been trying a lot of different ways, I didn't find a single way that worked. 126 00:08:54,940 --> 00:08:58,920 Me being satisfied about what I put out in front of... of... 127 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,060 every one of you is not something I can compromise with. 128 00:09:02,060 --> 00:09:04,439 It's... it's a fact that we can't change. 129 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,460 So to illustrate the situation, 130 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,656 I made a preparation here on the table. 131 00:09:08,656 --> 00:09:09,940 Are you ready for this? 132 00:09:09,940 --> 00:09:14,560 So every Wednesday you've been eating at the Wintergatan restaurant, 133 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,220 where Martin Molin is the head chef in the kitchen, 134 00:09:18,220 --> 00:09:19,280 calling the shots. Okay. 135 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:22,940 There is one dish on the menu, pasta with tomato sauce. 136 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,205 And you order it and you tell the cook: 137 00:09:26,205 --> 00:09:28,772 "Make it simple, so it doesn't take too much of your time, 138 00:09:28,772 --> 00:09:30,720 so you can also build the Marble Machine X." 139 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,520 "We don't want you to cook the tomato sauce all week." 140 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:37,400 So what you basically think that I should do then is this: 141 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:40,720 I'm taking the pasta... 142 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,200 Yummy! 143 00:09:52,020 --> 00:09:53,660 [laughs] 144 00:09:54,020 --> 00:09:57,600 There you go! So I come out to your table, I slid this plate in front of you, 145 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:02,820 and I'm, like, "Bon appetit: pasta with tomato sauce!" [laughs] 146 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:07,280 I don't want to complain about video making, 147 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,420 but I want to explain, 148 00:10:09,460 --> 00:10:12,820 and when you're not into producing videos, 149 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:18,280 this is basically how most people think that a video is being made: 150 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,320 You take the film, 151 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:25,640 you take it out of the package and you put it on youtube. 152 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,140 That's not how I make tomato sauce. 153 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:33,800 To make a tomato sauce you need some garlic, you need to slice it thin, 154 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:38,580 like in the Irishman, so it melts in the high quality olive oil. 155 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:43,340 Add a little bit of salt with piment d'espelette inside 156 00:10:43,420 --> 00:10:48,760 and some nice shallots, and make the onion, like, soft. 157 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,880 Then you finely chop the tomatoes, you put them over 158 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,082 and you let them slow cook for, like, two hours. 159 00:10:56,082 --> 00:10:58,160 Take all the water out of it. 160 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,380 Boil a lot of water with salt in, 161 00:11:00,380 --> 00:11:03,561 put the pasta in, make sure it's al dente. 162 00:11:03,561 --> 00:11:05,000 Pour the water out, 163 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,854 put the tomato sauce in the same pot you boiled the pasta in, 164 00:11:08,860 --> 00:11:10,980 put the pasta back into it, 165 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,480 sprinkle some basil on top. 166 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,400 That's a tomato sauce with umami! 167 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:20,620 This is what I want to serve to you all, and... 168 00:11:20,620 --> 00:11:23,820 To get a really, really nice tasty tomato sauce, 169 00:11:23,820 --> 00:11:26,860 by the way, don't be shy on the olive oil. 170 00:11:26,860 --> 00:11:30,127 Vegetarian food should be fat and salty and punchy. 171 00:11:30,127 --> 00:11:35,460 Just because it's vegetarian it doesn't mean it has to has no taste. 172 00:11:35,460 --> 00:11:39,460 Somehow people think sometimes that vegetarians don't like salt and sugar and fat. 173 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,600 Give it some punch! [laughs] 174 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,079 These kinds of aspects... 175 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,640 see the difference between this pasta and tomato sauce 176 00:11:51,680 --> 00:11:55,760 and the finer aspects of the punch in an umami taste, 177 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:59,680 these kinds of aspects is what I love to think about. 178 00:11:59,680 --> 00:12:05,040 So when I'm making a youtube video I'm thinking about the quality of the olive oil 179 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:09,140 and if the garlic is thinly sliced enough. [laughs] 180 00:12:09,340 --> 00:12:13,560 And if you look at the Sisyphus mountain again, the music part... 181 00:12:13,560 --> 00:12:16,820 I don't have any time to create music at all. 182 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:20,280 The building in itself has been a detour already, 183 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:24,260 an amazing detour, but still it's a detour that I just took like that. 184 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,760 And the youtube documentation process is a detour... 185 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:35,060 further away from the music, so I will continue to make videos whenever there's a great video to be made. 186 00:12:35,060 --> 00:12:39,580 We're back in the restaurant and now there's maybe 300 000 people 187 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:43,100 whose question marks has turned into an exclamation mark, saying: 188 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:48,700 "I actually would like to try some of that raw Wintergatan pasta, maybe it doesn't taste so bad". 189 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:54,360 I'm humbled and thankful, but I'm not going to serve it, okay? [laughs] 190 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:59,600 I can't even make a channel update video without coming up with like... 191 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,920 angle or concept for the video, right? [laughs] 192 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:08,800 This is a perfect illustration of why you have to keep me working on the machine and not producing videos. 193 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:14,900 So, concretely, the plan for the Marble Machine X is to try to make a test song as soon as possible. 194 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:20,100 I might make a cover. I've been thinking about making "Give Life Back to Music" by Daft Punk. 195 00:13:20,260 --> 00:13:25,960 I realized afterwards how prophetic that song title would be, so now maybe I have to do it. 196 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:33,200 I'm going to start with the process of arranging a piece of music on the machine, maybe... maybe that song 197 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:38,000 and I will cover that in detail on the Wintergatan youtube channel. 198 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,560 That process will leave up to a bookend finale 199 00:13:41,680 --> 00:13:47,300 about the first chapter in the Marble Machine X life, where it plays its first song for you. 200 00:13:47,300 --> 00:13:50,480 But what will happen right after that is that I... 201 00:13:50,580 --> 00:13:53,555 will produce the next album for Wintergatan. 202 00:13:53,560 --> 00:13:55,660 I will compose and produce. 203 00:13:55,660 --> 00:13:59,020 I'm talking more and more with Marcus, David and Evelina 204 00:13:59,020 --> 00:14:02,160 and they're all ready to play together. 205 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,380 They're just waiting for me. 206 00:14:04,380 --> 00:14:06,780 I've been thinking about this so much and I have some notes. 207 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:11,040 I would like to talk a little bit now, when we're here together, 208 00:14:11,500 --> 00:14:14,380 about this kind of decision. 209 00:14:14,560 --> 00:14:16,720 I think... 210 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,560 We live in a fast food economy, 211 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:22,900 where delayed gratification... 212 00:14:22,900 --> 00:14:27,540 the ability for us to employ delayed gratification and work towards a goal... 213 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:29,520 is decreasing rapidly. 214 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,080 Our public square, the internet, 215 00:14:32,100 --> 00:14:35,460 is a place where everything goes in ultra speed. 216 00:14:35,460 --> 00:14:39,440 I think a lot of you are tuning in to Wintergatan... 217 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:43,480 maybe just because it takes time, somehow... 218 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,080 That I'll allow it to take time. I don't know. 219 00:14:46,260 --> 00:14:49,240 So let's put the pasta over here. 220 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:52,120 Wilson, you want to taste it? He loves it! 221 00:14:52,220 --> 00:14:57,200 I hope the pasta analogy can help you understand my decision a little bit. 222 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:02,640 I think some discrepancy in understanding the situation will come from the fact that 223 00:15:02,820 --> 00:15:08,280 it is hard to understand how much extra work goes into... 224 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,840 making a video, a video that I want to sign off on. 225 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,540 I come to terms with the fact that it's a personality trait I have 226 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:19,380 that I cannot do that much about. 227 00:15:19,420 --> 00:15:22,960 The cool thing... the really cool thing is... 228 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:30,400 What I really want to do... align perfectly with what I really should do. [laughs] 229 00:15:30,820 --> 00:15:33,220 My ultimate... 230 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:37,480 My ultimate responsibility towards myself 231 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,560 is to make music with a machine I've built. 232 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,600 The machine is only a tool otherwise, it's a soulless body. 233 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:47,740 Once you get down to the core of the fact why you are watching, 234 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:52,640 it's because once upon a time I closed myself into a dark room... 235 00:15:52,940 --> 00:15:59,180 and performed some magic trick, and a year later I came out with the Marble Machine video, or... 236 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:03,080 some years before that I closed myself in a dark room 237 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,399 and I came out with a Wintergatan's debut album. 238 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:11,900 It's really difficult to step off a successful train, like the Wintergatan youtube channel, 239 00:16:11,980 --> 00:16:15,380 but I think this is also a sickness of our times that... 240 00:16:15,540 --> 00:16:20,240 once you find something that kind of works, 241 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,160 you just stick to it for too long. 242 00:16:22,260 --> 00:16:26,300 And I think pivoting a youtube channel is... 243 00:16:26,340 --> 00:16:29,700 something that is really, really important 244 00:16:29,700 --> 00:16:32,719 for the long life of a channel. 245 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:37,520 Otherwise, if you just do the same thing over and over, you're gonna have a huge popular spike 246 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:41,320 and then you're gonna go over the mountain and down on the other side. 247 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,660 You can see that in all youtube statistics. 248 00:16:44,660 --> 00:16:50,180 So, by doing what I'm doing now, reassessing the situation, it's... 249 00:16:50,660 --> 00:16:55,300 It kind of consolidates the future of the channel as well. 250 00:16:55,300 --> 00:17:00,000 And talking about that I want to end... 251 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,760 with a story from my life that is... 252 00:17:02,940 --> 00:17:06,480 really valuable to me. I once knew a bass player. 253 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:10,960 I think I was 16 and the bass player was 14 and we were playing like... 254 00:17:11,340 --> 00:17:15,680 a lot of jazz together and we were playing jazz on bars for payment. 255 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:19,100 It's starting to go better and better, we had more and more gigs. 256 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:23,500 So I almost worked like a guitar player when I was 16-17, 257 00:17:23,500 --> 00:17:27,760 getting some cash in the pockets from the bar owners, that kind of thing... 258 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,080 It was awesome and I was loving it. 259 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,400 Like, "can I make money playing music?!" 260 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:36,880 Like, "I play guitar and someone gives me 20 euros?" 261 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:38,500 Like, it was maybe not so much money. 262 00:17:38,500 --> 00:17:43,360 But then the money started to become more and more, because we became better and better at playing jazz. 263 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:48,120 And this bass player... The culmination was when this bass player was offered 264 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:54,560 300 dollars to play one song, "Autumn Leaves", on the... 265 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,131 on an opening ceremony on a university. 266 00:17:57,131 --> 00:17:58,280 And I was, like... 267 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:02,480 "Wooow, you really made it! Like, 300 dollars to play one song!" 268 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,700 "Autumn Leaves, such an easy song as well!" 269 00:18:04,700 --> 00:18:12,020 The bass player... declined the gig because that week he had started a hardcore band 270 00:18:12,100 --> 00:18:15,580 with his three friends. And I was like: 271 00:18:15,580 --> 00:18:22,460 "But... you can play in the hardcore band, and play Autumn Leaves, and keep the 300 dollars." 272 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,540 And he was like: "No, we want to focus!" 273 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,380 And I was like: "Okay..." 274 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:33,100 I didn't understand the decision at all. I thought like: 275 00:18:33,360 --> 00:18:35,280 "Why? You can do both..." 276 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:39,080 And this hardcore band went into their rehearsal place 277 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:45,700 and five times per week they played their whole set list of ten songs, two times per rehearsal. 278 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:50,820 One year later I had moved to Gothenburg, Sweden's second city, 279 00:18:50,820 --> 00:18:55,220 and they were coming to Gothenburg to play. And they were playing on this kind of youth place, 280 00:18:55,680 --> 00:19:01,740 on the floor, no stage, like no real PA system, just two speakers for the vocals and... 281 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:05,220 one microphone on the kick drum to give some bass, you know. 282 00:19:05,260 --> 00:19:10,420 And it was like distorted guitar and all the other sounds comes directly from the amplifiers. 283 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,420 So, no stage, everyone's standing on the floor, 284 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:15,600 and... 285 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,880 it's the tightest concert, 286 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:23,880 the most impressive performance I've seen in my whole life to this very date. 287 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,040 And I've been on a lot of large festivals, 288 00:19:27,120 --> 00:19:30,880 seeing bands performing in front of 50 000 people. 289 00:19:31,060 --> 00:19:36,580 And they, just standing on the floor there, just rolled over me... 290 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:41,540 like a machine; they steamrolled over me! [imitates crushing sound] 291 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:47,000 It was such an impactful experience! They had honed... 292 00:19:47,120 --> 00:19:50,360 their edge to perfection, right? 293 00:19:50,360 --> 00:19:55,360 They cut through all the bullshit... there is. 294 00:19:55,360 --> 00:20:01,340 And I went out of there and I was, like... because I was a music producer at the time, producing other bands, 295 00:20:01,340 --> 00:20:03,720 I was like: "I have to start my own band!" 296 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,654 So I went out of there, I took my phone up and called the drummer 297 00:20:06,660 --> 00:20:09,300 that I've been working with in the studio and I was, like: 298 00:20:09,300 --> 00:20:13,220 "Hey, we have to start a band!" [laughs] "When can you rehearse?" 299 00:20:13,220 --> 00:20:16,420 I was like Cartman in the South Park episode when he goes to Butters: 300 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:20,440 "We have to make a platinum album! Get your drums up and meet me at my place now!" [laughs] 301 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:24,380 I was like that enthusiastic: "We start tomorrow, right?" 302 00:20:24,540 --> 00:20:27,960 And we started to play around a little bit. 303 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:33,140 That band, through some iterations, later became my first band Detektivbyrån. 304 00:20:33,140 --> 00:20:36,940 So Detektivbyrån was the band who propelled me from being a music producer 305 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:42,200 into transitioning into being artist myself, where I'm actually fronting my own music. 306 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:46,080 That later led to me starting Wintergatan. 307 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,740 So... that little decision... 308 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:53,380 of saying no to "Autumn Leaves" for the fast buck, right? 309 00:20:53,380 --> 00:20:57,660 Nothing against Autumn Leaves, I think it's a great song. 310 00:20:57,780 --> 00:21:03,880 To focus on rehearsing with your hardcore band that no one knows about - yet... 311 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:10,020 That decision, in hindsight, I thought it was so impressive. 312 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:14,240 There is something very similar about the situation now, 313 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:18,440 and I hope that you can actually share my excitement in 314 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:22,300 grabbing control of my situation and... 315 00:21:22,300 --> 00:21:26,260 taking 70 percent of my time and resources 316 00:21:26,260 --> 00:21:31,080 and putting it back on my table for creating art and see what I can do with it. 317 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:36,460 Yeah, so that's it. So for some weeks now, I think we will have videos every week. 318 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:40,280 Last three weeks in September I'm taking a vacation to meet my parents. 319 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,280 When I come back from that, from first October... 320 00:21:43,360 --> 00:21:46,300 that's probably when you're gonna start to see 321 00:21:46,340 --> 00:21:49,860 how often we upload videos. We'll just see what happens. 322 00:21:49,860 --> 00:21:53,600 I'm really grateful for having such an intelligent 323 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,640 and patient audience. 324 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:02,240 And I'm looking forward to taking what I'm doing as seriously as I need to take it 325 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,920 to really reach the goal I'm striving for. 326 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,220 Thank you so much. See you on the next Wintergatan Wednesday. 327 00:22:09,220 --> 00:22:11,200 Wilson, you have to finish the video. 328 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,200 [shooop] 329 00:22:13,660 --> 00:22:16,000 Bye!