[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, so it's very nice to be here tonight. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I've been working on the history of income Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and wealth distribution for the past 15 years, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and one of the interesting lessons Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,coming from this historical evidence Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is indeed that, in the long run, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there is a tendency for the rate of return of capital Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to exceed the economy's growth rate, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this tends to lead to high concentration of wealth, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not infinite concentration of wealth, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the idea of the gap between r and g Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the idea of the level of inequality of wealth Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,towards society tends to converge. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is a key force that\NI'm going to talk about today, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but let me say right away Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that this is not the only important force Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the dynamics of income and wealth distribution, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there are many other forces that play Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an important role in the long run dynamics Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of income and wealth distribution. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Also, you know, there is a lot of data Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that still needs to be collected, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so, you know, we know a little bit more today Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than we used to know, but we still know too little, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and, you know, certain there\Nare many different processes Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,— economic, social, political — Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that need to be studied more. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so I'm going to focus today on this simple force, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but that doesn't mean that other important forces Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do not exist. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So most of the data I'm going to present Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,comes from this database Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's available online: Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the World Top Incomes Database. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is the largest existing Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,historical database on equality, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this comes from the effort Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of over 30 scholars from several dozen countries. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So let me show you a couple of facts Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,coming from this database, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then we'll return to r is bigger than g. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So fact number one is that there has been Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a big reversal in the ordering of income inequality Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between the United States and Europe Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,over the past century. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So back in 1900, 1910, income inequality was actually Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,much higher in Europe than in the United States, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whereas today, it is a lot higher in the United States. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So let me be very clear: Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the main explanation for this is not r bigger than g. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It has more to do with changing supply and demand Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for skill, the race between education and technology, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,globalization, probably more unequal access Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to skills in the U.S., Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where you have very top universities Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but where the bottom part of the educational system Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is not as good, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so very unequal access to skills, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and also an unprecedented rise Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of top managerial compensation of the United States, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is difficult to account for\Njust on the basis of education. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So there is more going on here, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I'm not going to talk too much about this today, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I want to focus on wealth inequality. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So let me just show you a very simple indicator Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about the income inequality part. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is the share of total income Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going to the top 10 percent. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you can see that one century ago, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was between 45 and 50 percent in Europe Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a little bit over 40 percent in the U.S., Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so there was more inequality in Europe. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then there was a sharp decline Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,during the first half of the 20th century, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in the recent decade, you can see that Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the U.S. has become more unequal than Europe, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this is the first fact I just talked about. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, the second fact is more about wealth inequality, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and here the central fact is that wealth inequality Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is always a lot higher than income inequality, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and also wealth inequality, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,although it has also increased in recent decades, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is still less extreme today Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than what it was a century ago, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,although the total quantity of wealth Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,relative to income has now recovered Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the very large shocks Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,caused by World War I, the Great Depression, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,World War II. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So let me show you two graphs Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,illustrating fact number two and fact number three. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So first, if you look at the level of wealth inequality, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so this is the share of total wealth Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going to top 10 percent wealthholders, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so you can see the same kind of reversal Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between the U.S. and Europe that we had before Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for income inequality. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So wealth concentration was higher Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Europe than in the U.S. a century ago, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and now it is the opposite. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But you can also show two things: Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,first, the general level of wealth inequality Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are always higher than income inequality. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So remember, for income inequality, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the share going to the top 10 percent Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was between 30 and 50 percent of total income, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whereas for wealth, the share are always Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between 60 and 90 percent. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, so that's fact number one, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's very important for what follows. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wealth concentration is always Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a lot higher than income concentration. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Fact number two is that the rise Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in wealth inequality in recent decades Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is still not enough to get us back to 1910. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the big difference today, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wealth inequality is still very large, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with 60, 70 percent of total wealth for the top 10, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the good news is that it's actually Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,better than one century ago, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where you had 90 percent in\NEurope going to the top 10. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So today what you have Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is what I call the middle 40 percent, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the people who are not in the top 10 Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and who are not in the bottom 50, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what you can view as the wealth middle class Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that owns 20 to 30 percent Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of total wealth, national wealth, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whereas they used to be as poor, a century ago, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when there was basically no wealth middle class. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is an important change, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's interesting to see that wealth inequality Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has not fully recovered to pre-World War I levels, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,although the total quantity of wealth has recovered. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay? So this is the total value Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of wealth relative to income, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you can see that in particular in Europe, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we are almost back to the pre-World War I level. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So these are, there are really two Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,different parts of the story here. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One has to do with Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the total quantity of wealth that will accumulate, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there is nothing bad per se of course Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in accumulating a lot of wealth, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in particular if it is more diffuse Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and less concentrated. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what we really want to focus on Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the long-run evolution of wealth inequality, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what's going to happen in the future. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How can we account for the fact that Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,until World War I, wealth inequality was so high Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and if anything was rising to even higher levels, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how can we think about the future? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So let me come to some of the explanations Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and speculations about the future. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let me first say that, you know, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,probably the best model to explain Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why wealth is so much Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more concentrated than income Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is dynamic, dynastic models Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where individuals have long horizon Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and accumulate wealth for all sorts of reasons. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If people were accumulating wealth Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,only for life cycle reasons, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, to be able to consume Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when they are old, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then the level of wealth inequality Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,should be more or less in line Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the level of income inequality. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it will be very difficult to explain Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why you have so much more wealth inequality Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than income inequality Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a pure a life cycle model, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so you need a story Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where people also care Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about wealth accumulation for other reasons. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So typically, they want to transmit Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wealth to the next generation, to their children, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or sometimes they want to accumulate wealth Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because of the prestige, the\Npower that goes with wealth. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So there must be other reasons Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for accumulating wealth than just life cycle Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to explain what we see in the data.