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Dialogue: 0,0:00:07.84,0:00:12.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[assume vivid astro focus: Spontaneity and\NConcentration]
Dialogue: 0,0:00:17.72,0:00:19.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[SUDBRACK] Me and Christophe have been working\Ntogether
Dialogue: 0,0:00:19.68,0:00:21.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,since 2005.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:23.94,0:00:25.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've never lived in the same city as Christophe
Dialogue: 0,0:00:25.82,0:00:27.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,since we started working together.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:28.22,0:00:29.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At one point I lived in Berlin,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:29.53,0:00:32.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now I'm splitting my time between Sao Paolo
Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.55,0:00:34.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and New York.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:34.17,0:00:35.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he lives in Paris, you know,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:35.67,0:00:38.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so we don't actually live in the same place.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.08,0:00:41.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[HAMAIDE-PIERSON] But you want to know the\Ntruth?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:41.42,0:00:42.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, I think sometimes we're like...
Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.96,0:00:44.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we know each other super well.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:45.10,0:00:47.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, we've been apart for almost a year,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.40,0:00:49.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,physically, on the same continent, we were, like...
Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.06,0:00:50.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[SUDBRACK] More.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:50.04,0:00:50.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[HAMAIDE-PIERSON] But since...
Dialogue: 0,0:00:50.96,0:00:51.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[SUDBRACK] April.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.52,0:00:52.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[HAMAIDE-PIERSON] Yeah, April.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:52.44,0:00:53.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[SUDBRACK] More than a year.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:53.22,0:00:54.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[HAMAIDE-PIERSON] Yeah, I mean...
Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.13,0:00:55.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my God, you're so picky!
Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.19,0:00:57.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Talking about, yeah, a year and a month!
Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.25,0:00:58.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[BOTH LAUGH]
Dialogue: 0,0:00:58.53,0:01:00.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think our minds are connected,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:00.62,0:01:03.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but then this like physical thing
Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.70,0:01:05.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we need to get used to again,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.63,0:01:06.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know what I mean?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.40,0:01:10.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[SUDBRACK] I think we needed to focus more.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:10.82,0:01:12.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We needed something that was quieter.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.66,0:01:15.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I was making installations before,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:15.41,0:01:18.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was creating a space in which people could\Nactually
Dialogue: 0,0:01:18.38,0:01:21.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be as spontaneous as they would like to.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:22.40,0:01:23.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the thing is, for me,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:23.31,0:01:24.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was never absolutely spontaneous
Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.95,0:01:26.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I had so much, you know,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.15,0:01:28.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,production that I had to take care of.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.42,0:01:30.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We felt that we needed to
Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.31,0:01:33.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do less with other collaborators--
Dialogue: 0,0:01:33.27,0:01:37.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and dealing with emails and production issues.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.07,0:01:38.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I felt like, okay, this is, like,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:38.54,0:01:40.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one of the reasons why I wanted to make paintings,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.73,0:01:44.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because that way, I can actually be more spontaneous myself.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:47.83,0:01:50.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it's also about getting older, too.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.37,0:01:53.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The pleasures are closer to you.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:56.47,0:01:58.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For this show in New York,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.51,0:02:00.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even though we influence each other,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.11,0:02:02.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we actually go into different directions.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:03.90,0:02:05.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm making this group of paintings,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.73,0:02:08.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he's making another group of paintings.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:08.69,0:02:12.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's going a more abstract, geometric way.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:12.21,0:02:14.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm thinking more about the figure.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:14.72,0:02:16.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just wanted to bring that idea
Dialogue: 0,0:02:16.75,0:02:20.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that somebody can transform their bodies at\Ntheir will,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:20.59,0:02:22.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's an act of freedom.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.27,0:02:25.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In our show last year
Dialogue: 0,0:02:25.03,0:02:26.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Sao Paolo,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.16,0:02:28.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we made these pieces called "Transgeometric"
Dialogue: 0,0:02:28.73,0:02:31.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which were half tranny bodies,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:31.42,0:02:33.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and half geometric shapes.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:33.56,0:02:35.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So somehow, I felt like these trannies
Dialogue: 0,0:02:35.51,0:02:39.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,could be transformed into a full on
Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.08,0:02:41.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,geometric shape with time.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.92,0:02:43.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[HAMAIDE-PIERSON] This is the position...
Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.95,0:02:45.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so, you have the...like, this part,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.74,0:02:47.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is like the butt here.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:47.75,0:02:51.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there's like a...how do you say, ball...
Dialogue: 0,0:02:51.03,0:02:52.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like a testicle?
Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.35,0:02:54.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The two nails...
Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.31,0:02:56.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And here, you have like the other butt,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:56.12,0:02:57.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the legs,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.84,0:02:59.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like the thigh.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:59.32,0:03:02.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like one boob coming out of it.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:02.08,0:03:03.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then here, you have the calf.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.65,0:03:05.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah. Do you see it?
Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.79,0:03:07.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,With like, this is like another boob coming\Nout of it.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:07.92,0:03:09.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And another one here.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:09.45,0:03:12.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then you have the beginning of the foot,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:12.55,0:03:13.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the heel here.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:15.28,0:03:17.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[SUDBRACK] I was looking for a different,\Nsort of,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.56,0:03:20.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,representation of the female figure.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.60,0:03:23.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Different from what I usually look at,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:23.01,0:03:26.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is like, the...the porn--
Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.45,0:03:28.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something that I always somehow
Dialogue: 0,0:03:28.15,0:03:32.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wanted to absorb in our installations,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:32.50,0:03:37.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to mix low and high references.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:37.34,0:03:38.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And now that I'm making paintings,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.62,0:03:40.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I feel like I have to do that
Dialogue: 0,0:03:40.03,0:03:42.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in one single, iconic image.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:43.44,0:03:44.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[HAMAIDE-PIERSON] It can be higher, I guess.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.30,0:03:46.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[SUDBRACK] No, I think it should be lower,\Nprobably.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.72,0:03:47.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[HAMAIDE-PIERSON] No, but look...
Dialogue: 0,0:03:47.58,0:03:49.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I like how it's like...you know?
Dialogue: 0,0:03:49.00,0:03:51.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not a line, whereas this is below this one...
Dialogue: 0,0:03:52.02,0:03:53.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[SUDBRACK] This was pretty much
Dialogue: 0,0:03:53.42,0:03:55.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the very first positioning
Dialogue: 0,0:03:55.22,0:03:58.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we had come up with--
Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.05,0:03:58.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very quickly.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.34,0:04:01.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[HAMAIDE-PIERSON] But I think sometimes, like\Nthe...
Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.01,0:04:03.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the more spontaneous you are [LAUGHS]
Dialogue: 0,0:04:03.67,0:04:06.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can be the better, and I think...yeah...
Dialogue: 0,0:04:06.62,0:04:07.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[SUDBRACK] So we went back,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:07.89,0:04:09.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we did a few adjustments--
Dialogue: 0,0:04:09.80,0:04:12.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's pretty much the way we thought, at\Nfirst.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:12.38,0:04:13.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[HAMAIDE-PIERSON] There was a lot of debate\Nbetween us,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:13.93,0:04:18.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if we should just install the painting on\Nthe white wall,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:18.02,0:04:20.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or if we should still conceive some sort of
Dialogue: 0,0:04:20.94,0:04:25.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,special environment to place the canvas on\Nthe wall.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:25.71,0:04:28.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then we went for the mural,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:28.18,0:04:30.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is like a continuation
Dialogue: 0,0:04:30.15,0:04:31.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of what we would have done in the past
Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.83,0:04:32.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with wallpaper.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.08,0:04:37.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[SUDBRACK] We start titling our shows
Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.82,0:04:39.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with these different combos,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:39.83,0:04:42.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,according to the different combinations you\Ncould do
Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.47,0:04:44.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with 'a' 'v' 'a' 'f'.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:48.04,0:04:49.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[HAMAIDE-PIERSON] The title of the show is
Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.82,0:04:53.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"adderall valium ativan focalin,"
Dialogue: 0,0:04:53.22,0:04:55.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which are, like, usually drugs which are prescribed
Dialogue: 0,0:04:55.49,0:04:57.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to cure, like, kids of attention disorder.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:58.74,0:05:01.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They cannot focus more than
Dialogue: 0,0:05:01.04,0:05:03.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,half an hour in classes.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:04.18,0:05:05.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[SUDBRACK] It's a big change
Dialogue: 0,0:05:05.25,0:05:07.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be concentrated on one media.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:07.39,0:05:08.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, we both needed some time
Dialogue: 0,0:05:08.98,0:05:10.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that was just more devoted
Dialogue: 0,0:05:10.65,0:05:12.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the actual making.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:13.90,0:05:14.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a lot of work,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:14.82,0:05:17.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but actually, I'm having a lot of fun
Dialogue: 0,0:05:17.87,0:05:18.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and pleasure
Dialogue: 0,0:05:18.74,0:05:21.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,working right on the canvas.