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Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.12,0:15:50.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People from Here
Dialogue: 0,0:23:29.49,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Welcome back to People from Here.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What we want to tell you today\Nis the story of two young people,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of two young people with high hopes.\NOn the one hand, there is Adelina,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a brilliant lawyer who works\Nat a prestigious legal firm in Milan.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then there is Ettore,\Nan industrial chemist.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The future can only smile\Nupon Adelina and Ettore.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Actually,\Ntheir future will be more turbulent
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than they could have ever imagined.\NThe fact is,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in 1938 Ettore and Adelina are Jewish.\NOn September 18th,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the balcony of Trieste's town hall,\NBenito Mussolini announced Racial Laws
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the first time\Nfor the defense of the race.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The world of those two young people\Nsuddenly collapses under their feet.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We will tell this story\Nof Ettore and Adelina
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the eve of the day.\NWe will tell it with the son
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Ettore and Adelina,\NDaniele Finzi, who in 2011,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,decided to donate his parents letters\Nand documents
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to The Archives of Pieve Santo Stefano.\NShortly we will also discuss why
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this choice was made.\NNow I would like to start precisely
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with September 1938,\Nwith Mussolini's announcement
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the laws for the defense of the race.\NEttore and Adelina immediately started
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to understand that there wasn't\Na future for them in that country.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To leave their country was\Na difficult decision,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but one that will save their lives.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, my father Ettore Finzi was\Nvery knowledgable about history.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Also because he knew German very well.\NHe had two aunts, aunt Genie
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and aunt Lazigudita Gentiluomo,\Nwho both lived in Vienna.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He had followed all\Nthe Nazi antisemitism up to March 1938.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So when the Race Manifesto was published\Nin July 1938, he didn't expect it.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He knew what the contents were about\Nand he also hoped that Italy would be
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a little different from Germany.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And my father, more than my mother,\Nmade quick and immediate decisions.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was also very intuitive.\NHe had known my mom only
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a few months, and he returns\Nto these months of April 1938.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was love at first sight\Nand because of the Race Manifesto,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Racial Laws,\Nthey decided to get married.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They were married in Milan\Non December 1, 1938.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In 1938. We arrive in 1939.\N- Yes.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,An ominous date for many.\N- Yes.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Very unjust, but there is a turning point.\N- There is a turning point.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ettore and Adelina decide to leave.\NOr rather, how do they depart?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because, in a sense,\Nthey leave informed.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes and no.\NThe problem is immediate
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that of money.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because the White Paper of the British,\Na policy from maybe February
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or March of 1939, \Nallowed a total of 75,000 Jews
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to enter Palestine for five years.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,However, to qualify for the entrance,\Nevery person needed to have 1,000 stars.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because, like we said, they had chosen.\N- To go to Palestine.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The goal was Palestine.\N- Yes.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The choice was not a coincidence,\Nbecause my father had also thought
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about Latin America.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the idea of going \Nto Palestine was because it was nearby.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was from Trieste so it was close.\NHe also hoped his parents could join him.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In any case, \Nthe issue of money was really
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a huge problem\Nbecause they didn't have any.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, thanks to the lawyer Gianni Morandi,\Nwho was the owner of the firm
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where my mom worked,\Nthey went to Zurich for their honeymoon.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then they went to Lugano\Nto gather clients for the lawyer.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was to put towards this large sum.\NAnd I still remember two leather bags
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with thousands of little stars inside.\NThey were gold little stars.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At this point, they reach Palestine.\NThe State of Israel still didn't exist.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There wasn't any money to protect them.\NTherefore, they had to start from scratch.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, and so, they started all over again\Nfrom January to April 1, 1939.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They arrived in Haifa on April 6, 1939.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, because as of 1922,\Nthe British controlled Palestine.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There were Palestinian Arabs.\NThe Jewish Palestinians were organized
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by the {\i1}Yishuv{\i0}, who were more concerned\Nwith the {\i1}kibbutz{\i0} and wanted
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to dedicate themselves\Nto agriculture, etc.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the foundation, the political one,\Nwas led by the Arab agency.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Arab agency was, well,\NI'll give you an example.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Those who arrived in Tel Aviv\Non April 7th were in school learning
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,modern Hebrew twenty days after,\Nbecause there were various Jews
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Tel Aviv from every part of Europe.\NAnd so, it was necessary
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to learn this common language.\NTherefore, there was some organization,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but there were a lot of problems.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In any case, where I mentally find...\N- Ah, yes.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this small amount of protection.\NHowever, they had to start...
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, they had to restart.\N- from scratch.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On the other hand, however,\Nthere was a lot of bitterness
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that was left behind by the fact\Nof having to abandon...
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes.\N- Italy.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Having to leave Italy was stressful.\N- Yes.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In regard to this,\NI will also read an excerpt
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the letters\Nthat have been donated to the archive,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,diaries in which Ettore specifically tells\Nabout what he was feeling shortly after
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the time at which he abandoned Italy.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We will read this excerpt:\N"When I left Italy four months ago,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"feeling more disgusted by the burden\Nof having to leave the country
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"than for the imminent danger,\Nmany of my colleagues
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"and friends were quick\Nto express to me their discontent
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"about what was happening.\NThrough their conversations,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I felt they knew what sympathy meant,\Nand they only ended up making me withdraw.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"They were whispered conversations solely\Nbecause they knew me
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"and thought highly of me.\NFor many, being an example against
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"the persecution of Jews not being born\Nin Italy, could also be considered fair,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"because it is understood that they came\Nto the country to make a fortune
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"by going behind other's backs.\NThey had some expert political views.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"The Fascist government's right\Nto persecute people that it had let into
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"the country was generally recognized."
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, so Ettore felt betrayed by Italy?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Without a doubt.\NAs I was saying prior,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,also because my father was from Trieste.\NFrom his father, my grandfather,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he had also received an irredentist\Nand nationalist upbringing.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Trieste...\N- Of course.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...had always been divided\Nbetween people from Trieste
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,instead of irredentists,\Nthose who love Italy, Italian culture,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Italian language,\Nlike my grandfather and the Slovenians.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He had received this education,\Nand so he was an irredentist nationalist.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Additionally, he was a genius official,\Nand so he felt like an Italian.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He loved Italy\Nand he felt betrayed by this terrible law.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In addition, in Hector's letters,\Nin this text, it also highlights
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a responsibility\Nby the Italian people themselves
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for that which is happening.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He writes:\N"The political maturity
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"of the Italian people\Nis apparently that of government rule
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"that it has and that it deserves."
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is a precise responsibility\Nby the people.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, the problem of the Italian people...\N(Laughter)
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is living, yes, it's like saying...
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,living today like yesterday.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In other words,\Nthe lack of personal responsibility
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and...not this...
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in this way...y..., accepting anything,\Na leader or a guide,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that which has\Nan...an...uglier appearance, if you will.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that...Trieste,\Nnot coincidentally Mussolini
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and September 18, 1938,\Nwhere they were
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the Unity of Italy Square\Nto present the Racial Laws
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not only because of\Nthe nationalism that was there,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but because Trieste was\Na very multiethnic, multicultural city.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There were more than two centuries\Nin which ethnic groups were diverse.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They coexisted.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But at the very moment \Nin which Mussolini was harsh towards Jews,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who, I repeat, were profound Italians\Nand felt as such, and had also fought
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for Italy during the First World War,\Nat the point, everyone was inclined
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to accept the rule of fascism.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We return to Hector and Adelina,\Nwho, because of their decisions,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,leave the Second World War behind,\Nin which the persecution of Jews
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the holocaust is about to start.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They leave behind the errors of war,\Nhowever, like I said, they face a life
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is not easy.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like we said,\NAdelina was a lawyer with a great career.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She finds herself having\Nto start her work up again.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, because the main difficulty was\Na work shortage.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was an excess of workers\N(Laughter)
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from Tel Aviv.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then, there were few jobs\Nor they were completely insecure.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Another big problem was\Na housing shortage.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So much so that my parents were forced\Nto live with a family in an apartment,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a kind of Polish family.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so the difficulty was, above all,\Nthe work shortage.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Also because the two small bags\Nof two thousand stars were not
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be touched at all.\NMy father was not flexible.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so then my mom, in other words,\Nmy mom, as long as my father remained
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Tel Aviv until August 23, 1944,\Nwhen he then went to work
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the British oil refinery... yes...\NNo, he also had my mom
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because then he had had my sister first\Nand then I was born in 1942.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So then when my father left,\Nhe felt the obligation to work
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to support the family\Nalso because he liked the idea
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of having money...\N(Laughter)
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to freely spend.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As mentioned, your mother was free...\N- Yes, free.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Palestine.\N- Yes.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Your father, on the other hand,\Nhad to move abroad to Persia
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because meanwhile he found work\Nwith an oil company.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So two lovers who find themselves\Nfar apart in a foreign land,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the only point of contact\Nbetween these two people becomes
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the writing, the letters\Nthat will then become so important
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for documentation, for their memories.\N- Yes.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fact, if my father accepts\Nthis two year contract
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with this Iranian company,\Nfrom Abadan and in Persia,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he would do his work\Nas an industrial chemist
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in this precise military zone.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He certainly separated from,\Nhe left his wife, his children,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Tel Aviv.\NThen, although very tired,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,every evening my mom wrote\Nand reported what had happened
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,during her workday,\Nbecause she had found work
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a company that was part\Nof the Tel Aviv pharmaceutical industry.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After then being fired,\Nshe went into a...into a house to iron...
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, she could do anything.\NAnd so she reported with great ability,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,descriptive, careful about everything\Nthat went on during the day.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rather, my father sometimes wrote letters\Nwith extensive description.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He explained to her a bit about his duty,\Nweather problems because it was very hot,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,relationships with the British,\Nthat local population that was
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in truly devastating conditions.\NOkay so they were letters that,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,among other things... If you permit me...\N- Sure.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a tangent... Things one absolutely knew\Nbut I didn't even know
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the letters existed.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then perhaps we can also elaborate\Non how they were found.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then also about how the decision\Nto publish them came about.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let's go back.\NWe had said that while Hector
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Adelina were in Palestine,\Ntheir children were born.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, my sister...\N- You were born
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and your sister Ana was born.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is fitting that the future\Nof these two children is often focused
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on in these letters that Hector\Nand Adelina exchange.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would like to read another\Nparticularly significant passage
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is again written by Hector\Nin Abadan in February 23, 1945:
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"If on one hand, the war tends\Nto be nearing its end, on the other,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"for us, the situation in Palestine\Nis taking a favorable turn.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"These days, I am overthinking\Nand continuously thinking
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"about the problem and worried,\Nnot so much about our personal future,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"but the future of our children.\NI feel irresistibly carried towards
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"a solution that,\Nalthough never once explored,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"today seems inevitable to me.\NPerhaps in a year's time we will find
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"the need to have to return to Italy.\NThen they will return
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"to being one hundred percent Italians."
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Probably if your father could have chosen,\Nhe would have never...ah...wanted
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to return to Italy.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, I would have wanted to also.\NRather no, because of having been betrayed
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by Italy, my father deeply desired\Nto return to Italy.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Apart from the experience in Abadan,\Nalso because life in Palestine was truly
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very hard, very difficult because of\Nthe work problem, the problem
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the...of the...the lack of apartments.\NHowever, we can't forget
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the attention, the attention\Nfrom the Palestinian Arabs and the British
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,made life particularly difficult.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we could return back in time...\N- Yes.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In September 1940, Tel Aviv was bombed\Nby Italian planes, no?...
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes.\N- They bombed Tel Aviv and it seems
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like there were one hundred\Nand fifty two deaths.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So life was very hard.\NAnother tangent...uh... In other words,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one of the big problems was also food.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For example, myself sister and I went\Nto the {\i1}gan{\i0}, which was like kindergarten.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To help you understand, at lunch they used\Nto give us half an egg to eat.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On the other hand,\Nwhile you all faced this situation,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the hope of returning\Nto Italy continuously remained.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And how did Adelina live\Nwith the hope of returning?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I will read...\N- Yes.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...another passage that is significant:\N"I will never ask myself
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"to take that step.\NHere I feel undoubtedly hesitant
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"by instinct and by force of tradition.\NAnd I won't ever ask myself not only out
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"of obedience, \Nbut because more than anything else,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I am concerned\Nabout doing everything possible
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"for the future of our children."
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's like saying,\Nshe was also willing to do her part.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was a sense of pride\Nto return to Italy, that country
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that had dismissed them\Nin order to then guarantee
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a future for you children.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then here there is a...\N(Laughter)
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are many letters.\NIn any case, when my father says
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they will be\None hundred percent Italians,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he also proposes to my mom\Nthe idea of converting to Catholicism,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because we were Jews.\N- Of course.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then, while the Finzis\Nof Trieste were assimilated
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,almost completely...\NIn other words,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they went to the temple twice a year.\NInstead, my mom was from
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a much more orthodox family.\NThey came from the Parrdo,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a very important Iberian family.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Parrdo which was Prado then.\NThey came from Spain after the expulsion.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So my father proposes this idea\Nof converting to Catholicism
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in order for his children...\N- To become...
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, to become totally Italians\Neven as a religion.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,However my mom... Here it says\Nthat she was reluctant.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not because she was personally orthodox.\NBut because, in that moment when
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was known what was happening\Nin Europe, the extermination camps
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or also a difficult situation,\Nthey absolutely didn't know
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where my paternal\Nand maternal grandparents were.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, however, the news arrived\Neven betraying the origin... In short...
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was quite heavy.\N- Very heavy.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,By the way, meanwhile how did the news\Nabout the war circulate in Europe?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Was there just an awareness\Nof what was happening?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Was there an awareness\Nof the extermination camps?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes.\N- Most of all, also how did they live
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with these duplicate feelings?\NBecause, on the one hand,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there was this hope\Nof being able to return one day
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to a normal life in Italy.\NOn the other hand, however,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there was a lot of love\Nalso for the fate of loved ones.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They knew everything.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Both about the Jewish institution\Nand the British.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The news arrived quite detailed.\NI don't want to forget a noteworthy group
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of young Jews that were part\Nof the Jewish brigade.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They fought alongside the British\Nand they also fought in Italy,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in all of Europe.\NIt was them that said the news offered
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,details about what was taking place.\NSo they knew about everything
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about what was coming\Nto Italy and Europe.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The concerns were precisely\Nthat my paternal grandparents,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those who then were moved from Auschwitz,\Nthey did not...
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The last official news was transmitted\Nby a type of telegram by the Red Cross
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in July of 1943.\NThen my father knew absolutely nothing.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My mom didn't know.\NShe knew that her parents were hidden.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Her brother was in Switzerland.\NBut they had absolutely no news.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They couldn't say or write anything\Nbecause the mail was altered.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Outgoing and incoming mail was altered.\NI found that at least some details
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the letters had been deleted precisely\Nby the person that did the alterations.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So my father needed to be careful\Nbecause they were altered by the British.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They were altered by the Persians.\NThen they were altered on arrival
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Palestine.\NSo they were...
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In this situation,\Nthey also found themselves in a state
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of uncertainty being far from Europe,\Nfar from what was happening in Europe,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,far from the war.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For the moment, Adelina perhaps had hoped\Nthat her family would be privileged
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the immense tragedy\Nthat afflicted the Jews of Europe,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they would all find themselves\Nreunited upon their return.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was almost this illusion, this hope.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hope is often the last idea.\NHence, there was hope.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They didn't have detailed news.\NMy father's brother was a doctor
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who lived in Bologna\Nin the mountains of Monghidoro.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He knew\Nthat his parents had been arrested,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they had been deported.\NHowever, he had not communicated anything.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then, even though...\NThere could have always been
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the hope of return by being in Aushwitz.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Therefore, they hoped, they hoped.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Unfortunately, however,\Nthe terrible news arrived.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They also arrived in Palestine while\Nthe war...
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was over.\N- It was already over.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And like you said,\Nthe terrible news arrived by mail.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,News so terrible\Nthat Adelina cannot even transcribe them
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a letter to Hector.\NShe writes:
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"My dear, unfortunately,\Nthe dreary news has arrived.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I am sending you the letter\Nbecause I don't have the courage
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"to write to you\Nabout it with my own pen."
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's terrible.\NUnfortunately, they were effects
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of what had just happened\Nin the war in Europe.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In a communication letter separate\Nfrom the international cross.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe in that exact moment Hector\Nand Adelina understood
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what they had escaped from?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes without a doubt.\NI will also tell you
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that when my father had\Nthe idea of going to Palestine,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everyone criticized him;\Nfriends, parents, brothers, the sister,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they said\Nhe was always pessimistic.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He would rather have wanted them all\Nto also come with him.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,However, he expected it, also because\Nthe war in Europe ended on May 8, 1945.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The news gets to him in August.\NGiven that months go by
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where he doesn't receive positive news,\Nhe feared for the lives of his parents.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Excuse me but if you permit me.\N- Of course.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But before the communication\Nabout the deaths of his parents,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he received communication from Sweden\Nthat said his sister was saved.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then my aunt Yolanda Clara was part\Nof that group of prisoners
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that were moved\Nfrom Auschwitz in December 1944.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They were moved west\Nso as not to leave a mass
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of prisoners in Auschwitz,\Nbecause the Red Army was coming.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She was then liberated\Nin the north of Ravensbrück in April 1945.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She was then transferred\Nto Sweden to recover.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have said that at this point,\Nthe war ended and Hector and Adelina
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,along with their children decide\Nto return to Italy.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How difficult was it once again to start\Nfrom scratch because they actually had
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to start from scratch.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ah yes.\NIt was difficult.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My father's brother,\Nwho had worked in Sansepolcro,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,helped him get a job at his work.\NHe spoke with Mr. Marco Vittoni
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he said he was quite willing\Nto hire his brother because he was
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a chemist.\NMr. Vittoni wanted a change of pace
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for his company.\NBut when we arrived in Italy in May 1946,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a short stop in Bologna\Nand then to Parma at the home
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of my maternal grandparents,\Nand then to Sansepolcro precisely
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in November of 1946,\Nwe had absolutely nothing.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there was nothing...\N(Laughter)
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Without a doubt, a country in devastation.\N- Yes, a country in devastation.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I remember the path with holes.\NI remember the Tower of Berta Square
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a pile of ruins.\N- The Tower of Berta Square was destroyed.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I repeat, it was also a problem to eat.\NI remember my father rented
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a furnished apartment\Nin Saint Claire Square
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in which the conditions were...\N- Insecure.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Very, very insecure.\NHowever, they were young
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they wanted to start over.\NThere was my sister and myself.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, they desired to put a painful time\Nof their lives behind them and start over.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You have previously already answered\Nthat there was resentment towards
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that country that made them run away\Nand also towards those friends
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that...\N- No.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had put down the idea of the legeri...\N- No, absolutely not.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Other than it being something\Nthat is part of our DNA.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Resentment is useless.\NIt's best to move forward,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to have the will to start again\Nand to overcome difficulties.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not resentment.\NI never heard my father
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nor my mother speak ill of Italians.\NYes, it was upsetting to have lost.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To having lost parents.\NTo having lost years of work.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My mom could not return to work\Nin Milan because there was no way
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to find a home.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In 2011, Hector Finzi's\Nand Adelina's epistolary was donated
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the Pieve diary archives.\NIt's awarded the {\i1}Premio Pieve{\i0}.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,First and foremost, how were you able\Nto find these letters again,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they were made public\Nby the decision of donating them.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My father dies on June 18, 2002.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We had an apartment in Parma.\NIn August I was ready to let go of it.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,By chance, I found a bag in his office,\Na leather one that holds documents.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There were letters inside\Nthis document holder.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there were two notebooks,\Nblack ones with a red border
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that were used in the past,\Nand they were diaries.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I understood right away\Nbecause I have done historical research
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for many years, so I understood\Nit was something interesting.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I found it strange\Nthat my father never told me anything,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because he didn't say there are letters\Nand diaries.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so I took them all to my house,\Nto my office and I left them there
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for a year, a year and a half.\NThen I slowly began to read them
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a bit of fear.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because with letters and diaries...\N- One will find...
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,always find something intimate.\NThen I think in my family,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nothing would ever be talked about.\NNo one had ever commented,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,made references.\NThen gradually I began
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to transcribe these letters.\NI can't tell you how I did so,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they were truly written...\N- Strictly handwritten.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, handwritten with a fountain pen,\Non tissue paper, because then
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was airmail paper.\NSo it had... It was
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a remove your eyes type job.\NIn any case, I did this transcription job
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the diary, of the letters, etc.\NI had the idea of publishing it.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The full version of this diary,\Nof these letters...
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just to be certain, I collaborated\Nwith the Diary Archives already
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for some time for my research.\NIn any case, just to be certain,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I went to Pieve Santo Stefano\Nand I had this volume on hand.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was Cristina Cangi, who you know.\NShe asked me:
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"What is it professor?"\N- "It's this work that I did."
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Why don't you submit for the award."
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I say I really had not thought\Nabout wanting to publish it.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I start reading some interesting things\Nand then I submit it.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...They asked me for the archive\Nand also for the letters,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I wasn't going to do that.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I remember that it's naturally possible\Nto read this publication
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is titled "Transparent",\Nin which the documentation
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is precisely presented.\NPublished by Il Mulino.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Our arrangement time has ended,\Nalthough we would like to talk for hours
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about this story that is a bit,\Nby certain passages and elements,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,similar to the story\Nof many other families,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,also of the province of Arezzo.\NPerhaps there will be a a way
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to talk more about it in the future.\NThank you Daniel Finzi,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thanks to all of you\Nwho have followed our event,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a special event\Nthat was made possible in collaboration
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with The Archives of Pieve Santo Stefano.\NI naturally thank you as well.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In particular, the archives\Nfor this episode were made available
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by Nadia Frulli.\NThank you to all of you
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for watching the program with...