WEBVTT 00:00:01.180 --> 00:00:03.160 [STEADY PERCUSSIVE SOUNDS] 00:00:09.560 --> 00:00:11.580 [PERFORMER SINGING] 00:00:19.440 --> 00:00:21.240 [RAUL DE NIEVES] I remember moving to New York 00:00:21.240 --> 00:00:24.100 and coming here to The Kitchen to see a production, 00:00:24.100 --> 00:00:27.120 and now our work is being mounted here. 00:00:27.120 --> 00:00:28.180 ["New York Close Up"] 00:00:28.180 --> 00:00:29.680 It's not a dream anymore! 00:00:32.680 --> 00:00:36.380 [COLIN SELF] This is our first time ever making a real opera. 00:00:37.940 --> 00:00:40.800 ["Raúl de Nieves and Colin Self Harmonize"] 00:00:42.000 --> 00:00:44.080 [SCREAMING IN UNISON] 00:00:44.420 --> 00:00:45.640 [DE NIEVES] I play the dog. 00:00:45.640 --> 00:00:47.130 [SELF] I'm the old woman. 00:00:48.320 --> 00:00:50.480 [DE NIEVES] And the old woman is the wisest. 00:00:51.240 --> 00:00:52.160 [SELF LAUGHS] 00:00:52.360 --> 00:00:53.000 [DE NIEVES] She is. 00:00:53.000 --> 00:00:55.040 [SELF] I don't know, I think the dog might be the wisest. 00:00:55.040 --> 00:00:58.380 [DE NIEVES] Well the dog and the old woman are the same person actually, so... 00:00:58.380 --> 00:00:59.440 [SELF] But they are the same person. 00:01:02.720 --> 00:01:05.460 [DE NIEVES] --Or maybe it's like I give you my hand or something. 00:01:06.000 --> 00:01:08.780 --Like what if we never touch hands or something? 00:01:09.640 --> 00:01:11.780 --We're so far away from one another. 00:01:12.880 --> 00:01:15.040 [MOANING IN UNISON] 00:01:20.400 --> 00:01:21.400 [DE NIEVES] --I think that's really good. 00:01:21.400 --> 00:01:22.120 [SELF] --Yeah. 00:01:22.480 --> 00:01:23.520 [BOTH LAUGH] 00:01:24.440 --> 00:01:25.420 [DE NIEVES] --You're so crazy 00:01:25.980 --> 00:01:26.780 [SELF] --That's cool. 00:01:27.060 --> 00:01:29.500 --You and I having this really still interaction... 00:01:29.620 --> 00:01:34.900 [DE NIEVES] Colin and I met while we were both asked to play a show. 00:01:36.640 --> 00:01:38.460 [SELF] I think I had just moved to New York, 00:01:38.460 --> 00:01:42.520 and I remember that I was trying to find a sense of community or place. 00:01:42.720 --> 00:01:43.920 [BOTH SCREAM] 00:01:44.100 --> 00:01:48.220 [DE NIEVES] I had recently migrated from Mexico to America, 00:01:48.220 --> 00:01:54.980 and music was the first escape of my everyday reality. 00:01:57.780 --> 00:02:01.080 This is when I was starting my band, Haribo. 00:02:01.080 --> 00:02:07.440 We were kind of creating more of a noise soundscape to this performance. 00:02:07.940 --> 00:02:10.239 Colin had performed before us. 00:02:10.240 --> 00:02:14.440 I just remember seeing him thrashing around. 00:02:14.440 --> 00:02:17.739 [SELF] It was just one of those things of watching someone perform and being like, 00:02:17.740 --> 00:02:20.600 "Oh my gosh, we are from the same universe!" 00:02:20.600 --> 00:02:24.900 [DE NIEVES] It's never been me, me, me, me, me, you know-- 00:02:24.900 --> 00:02:26.709 it's always been me and you. 00:02:26.709 --> 00:02:28.240 [SELF] Us, us, us, us, us, us, us, us. 00:02:29.900 --> 00:02:34.320 [DE NIEVES] My friends teach me how to give, how to receive. 00:02:35.460 --> 00:02:38.600 Without the little help each one of us gives one another, 00:02:38.609 --> 00:02:42.949 it would actually be very hard to sustain a normal life. 00:02:42.949 --> 00:02:44.360 [DE NIEVES] --It's real! 00:02:45.109 --> 00:02:47.419 My friends are my guidance. 00:02:47.420 --> 00:02:50.960 [SELF] --Why don't we get into a circle. 00:02:51.540 --> 00:02:52.840 [PERFORMERS SINGING] 00:02:59.680 --> 00:03:02.510 The majority of the people who've joined 00:03:02.510 --> 00:03:07.140 have been a part of this ongoing choir practice that I've been leading. 00:03:10.080 --> 00:03:12.700 [SELF SINGING] --Letting it warm up the room. 00:03:15.340 --> 00:03:21.180 I started just thinking about what does it mean to gather people together to sing? 00:03:21.200 --> 00:03:22.720 What can come from that? 00:03:23.320 --> 00:03:26.940 It felt really powerful in a way that I wasn't anticipating. 00:03:30.220 --> 00:03:33.380 [DE NIEVES] Personal experiences really helped shape the work. 00:03:34.200 --> 00:03:38.640 In Mexico, we didn't really have much exposure to contemporary art. 00:03:40.700 --> 00:03:44.819 So I always looked up to the performers I saw on the street, 00:03:44.819 --> 00:03:48.779 portraying these characters through costume and props 00:03:48.780 --> 00:03:51.980 and spontaneous street performance. 00:03:52.540 --> 00:03:57.760 Performance really opened up a void for me to experiment with art. 00:04:01.380 --> 00:04:07.230 The sets and the costumes were made from pretty much nothing. 00:04:07.230 --> 00:04:10.340 We always wanted this grand set of doors. 00:04:10.680 --> 00:04:15.299 Through the help of non-for-profit organizations, like Materials for the Arts, 00:04:15.299 --> 00:04:18.159 we were able to acquire all the gems. 00:04:18.160 --> 00:04:20.820 Everything else was just a labor of love. 00:04:24.520 --> 00:04:28.000 [SELF] "The Fool" itself is a characterization of learning-- 00:04:28.000 --> 00:04:30.320 that this practice of discovery, 00:04:31.740 --> 00:04:34.680 by the time they finish their journey, are back where they began. 00:04:36.960 --> 00:04:38.180 [AUDIENCE APPLAUDS] 00:04:38.240 --> 00:04:41.100 [STRING AND VOCAL PERFORMANCE INTENSIFIES] 00:04:55.720 --> 00:04:57.880 [DE NIEVES] Every character on stage is the fool 00:04:57.880 --> 00:05:00.340 including the child, the mother, 00:05:01.480 --> 00:05:04.120 the fools that are hidden in the background, 00:05:05.300 --> 00:05:07.060 the old woman and dog. 00:05:07.580 --> 00:05:08.700 [YELLING] 00:05:12.940 --> 00:05:17.100 Essentially, each character sees something different. 00:05:18.680 --> 00:05:20.090 And that's why at the end 00:05:20.090 --> 00:05:24.439 the dog comes back and speaks to this old woman 00:05:24.440 --> 00:05:30.040 to remind her that she has had all this wisdom within herself. 00:05:30.720 --> 00:05:32.680 [PERFORMERS SINGING]