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Dialogue: 0,0:00:18.48,0:00:24.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Herald: Our next speaker: Basically, he\Neats up script kiddies for breakfast, I've heard.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:24.77,0:00:30.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He drives the open source train and\Nhis currency is uptime. Please welcome
Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.60,0:00:36.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a very warm applause Julian Oliver\Nand his "Server Infrastructure for the
Dialogue: 0,0:00:36.82,0:00:43.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Global Rebellion" talk.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:43.18,0:00:51.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Julian: So, yep. Great. Very pleased to be\Nhere. Amazing environment, indeed, as
Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.35,0:00:56.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,usual with the CCC. First of all, I'm not\Nat all a spokesperson for extinction
Dialogue: 0,0:00:56.72,0:01:01.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rebellion. I do not speak for this\Nmovement called extinction rebellion.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.57,0:01:09.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whatever I say here tonight is entirely my\Nown opinion. And so not to be taken as any
Dialogue: 0,0:01:09.17,0:01:14.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,overarching description of the movement\Nmore generally. What you're looking at
Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.67,0:01:18.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,here, of course, might simply be\Nassociated with this thing called
Dialogue: 0,0:01:18.05,0:01:24.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,extinction rebellion. But it is not. It\Nis, in fact, the extinction symbol. And
Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.70,0:01:27.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is the part where in the first half\Nof my talk, I depress you. But then we'll
Dialogue: 0,0:01:27.70,0:01:32.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,go for a nice, big sort of warm finish.\NThe extinction symbol was, in fact,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:32.66,0:01:41.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,created in 2011 by a UK artist called ESP.\NAnd this entirely relates to, not
Dialogue: 0,0:01:41.32,0:01:44.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,extinction rebellion, being long before\Nextinction rebellion, but the fact that we
Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.84,0:01:50.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have entered the sixth mass extinction on\Nthis planet that we are on. And this has
Dialogue: 0,0:01:50.40,0:01:56.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,became practically scientific consensus in\N2015, where it has been fairly surely
Dialogue: 0,0:01:56.82,0:02:02.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,asserted and since reasserted that we have\Nin fact entered the largest extinction
Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.35,0:02:08.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,event on this planet in 65 million years.\NGlobal populations of fish, birds, mammals
Dialogue: 0,0:02:08.06,0:02:16.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,down by about 60 % in 42 years and\Naccording to the WWF a few years ago. The
Dialogue: 0,0:02:16.62,0:02:22.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,UN puts it at about 150 species lost per\Nday. Now, that's a little bit more than
Dialogue: 0,0:02:22.71,0:02:27.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the father of biodiversity, E.O. Wilson,\Nthat says it's around about 27,000 a year.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.61,0:02:32.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In other words, one species lost every 19\Nminutes. But what does that really mean?
Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.21,0:02:36.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, when we're talking about background\Nextinction rates, we're looking at the at
Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.69,0:02:39.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the background extinction rate for the\Nlast 65 million years has been about one
Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.94,0:02:46.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to five species a year. So not 150 a day,\Nbut 1 to 5 a year. This is fairly
Dialogue: 0,0:02:46.21,0:02:50.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,conclusive of the fact that we have\Nentered the sixth extinction on this
Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.39,0:02:55.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,planet. I'm here in Germany, for instance.\NJust a couple of years ago, there was this
Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.73,0:02:59.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dutch-German study done that now reflects\Npretty much the state of the entire
Dialogue: 0,0:02:59.14,0:03:06.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,European continent of the 3/4 of all\Nflying insect biomass dropping in about 25
Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.58,0:03:12.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,years. So three quarters less flying\Ninsects in 25 years and supposedly
Dialogue: 0,0:03:12.35,0:03:18.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dropping it around about 2.5 a year. Now\Nwe need insects much more than they need
Dialogue: 0,0:03:18.03,0:03:22.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,us. They are the glue layer of our food\Nsystem. But within the planetary boundary
Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.95,0:03:27.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and biological sense, they are absolutely\Nintrinsic. They also keep much of our
Dialogue: 0,0:03:27.43,0:03:32.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,water very fresh. As one biologist put it,\Nwe humans will never see the the end of
Dialogue: 0,0:03:32.00,0:03:38.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the insects. We need them that much. Now,\Nclimate change has become very much
Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.43,0:03:46.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ascribed to this loss of species. But in\Nfact, it's not climate change that is
Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.60,0:03:53.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,responsible for species decline per say.\NThe WWF Living Planet Index attributes
Dialogue: 0,0:03:53.53,0:03:58.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about seven per cent of species declines\Nto warming. In fact, the real reason why
Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.58,0:04:02.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we are losing so many species so quickly\Nis because we're changing their habitats.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:02.04,0:04:06.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're just removing them entirely, and\Ncertainly urbanization is a part of that
Dialogue: 0,0:04:06.59,0:04:10.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and land change as a result of warming,\Nbut primarily it's because we've replaced
Dialogue: 0,0:04:10.58,0:04:17.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,habitats with with farmland. This is, for\Ninstance, in the Amazon basin carving into
Dialogue: 0,0:04:17.39,0:04:23.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Amazon right there just to lay down\Nsome soy livestock, feed crops. And
Dialogue: 0,0:04:23.87,0:04:28.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's another another another view\Nthere. Now, most of that soy, all of that
Dialogue: 0,0:04:28.08,0:04:32.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,soy is really exported for livestock feed,\Nmostly to Europe and to China. But getting
Dialogue: 0,0:04:32.89,0:04:36.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,onto the warming thing, which is obviously\Na massive existential threat we do all
Dialogue: 0,0:04:36.76,0:04:44.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,face. We can safely say now that the Paris\Naccord has entirely failed. The warming
Dialogue: 0,0:04:44.36,0:04:49.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,projections presently we're looking at\Nabout 2.8 to 3.2 by the end of the
Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.07,0:04:53.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,century, not including self reinforcing\Nfeedbacks. In other words, things like
Dialogue: 0,0:04:53.45,0:04:57.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,permafrost melts, just releasing tons of\Nmethane into the air or the wildfires that
Dialogue: 0,0:04:57.64,0:05:01.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we've been seeing in Australia and over in\NCalifornia that are just sending gigatons
Dialogue: 0,0:05:01.48,0:05:07.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of carbon into the air. So this is still\Nto be seen as relatively optimistic.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:07.25,0:05:11.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we're looking at current policies and\Nwhere they will lead us, that's a lot more
Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.11,0:05:14.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than 1.5. I think, first of all, it's\Nimportant to point out that this is
Dialogue: 0,0:05:14.95,0:05:19.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually really happening. And even if\Nit's unimaginable and completely
Dialogue: 0,0:05:19.27,0:05:24.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,unacceptable that it is happening, we\Nstill need to remember that science does
Dialogue: 0,0:05:24.17,0:05:29.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not need human imagination for evidence.\NIt needs instrumentation and lots and lots
Dialogue: 0,0:05:29.54,0:05:34.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of hard work and decades of study. And it\Nconfirms that, yes, indeed, it is really
Dialogue: 0,0:05:34.03,0:05:39.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,happening. Technology will not save us.\NThis is also increasingly scientific
Dialogue: 0,0:05:39.80,0:05:46.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,consensus. Most recently, looking at the\Nidea that we can just simply scrub carbon
Dialogue: 0,0:05:46.74,0:05:52.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out of the air, we can, you know, we can\Nsuck it out of the air and these negative
Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.25,0:05:57.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,emission technology. That's if you like.\NThey're not even gigatons capable. And 29
Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.74,0:06:02.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,European science academies concluded that\Nwe can absolutely not rely on any Ts or
Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.95,0:06:06.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,negative emissions technologies to pull\Nenough carbon out of the air at anywhere
Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.58,0:06:12.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,near the rate that we need it in order to\Nsave us. What I mean by save us? Well,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:12.36,0:06:16.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when I was born, it was around about\N330 ppm CO2 in the atmosphere
Dialogue: 0,0:06:16.46,0:06:22.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we're now looking at about\N412 of the latest reading. This is the
Dialogue: 0,0:06:22.40,0:06:30.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Keeling Curve. Now 450 ppm is seen as\Nsomething of a threshold that probably
Dialogue: 0,0:06:30.83,0:06:37.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gets us more or less near 2 degrees of\Nwarming from post-industrial levels with a
Dialogue: 0,0:06:37.26,0:06:43.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,70 % probability if we keep it under 2\Ndegrees, in other words, 450 ppm. Sorry.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:43.09,0:06:47.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we keep it under 450 ppm, then we will\Nalmost certainly manage to avoid that that
Dialogue: 0,0:06:47.51,0:06:51.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,2 degrees threshold for the 70 %\Nprobability. Just looking at ocean rise
Dialogue: 0,0:06:51.76,0:07:01.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,alone. This is Miami at two degrees, which\Nis arguably just around the corner. This
Dialogue: 0,0:07:01.03,0:07:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is Shanghai. I don't know if you've been\Nto Shanghai. Where will all those people
Dialogue: 0,0:07:05.00,0:07:09.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,go, you might ask yourself. Bangkok is\Nalready underwater at this point. Two
Dialogue: 0,0:07:09.44,0:07:13.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,degrees represent something else\Nrelatively significant, however, as
Dialogue: 0,0:07:13.83,0:07:17.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,evidenced in this fantastic paper, well,\Nfantastic if you read this sort of stuff
Dialogue: 0,0:07:17.56,0:07:22.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and don't want to drink yourself under the\Ntable. But trajectories of the Earths
Dialogue: 0,0:07:22.47,0:07:28.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,system and the Anthropocene suggests very\Nstrongly that it's highly likely,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:28.27,0:07:32.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,extremely probable that if we cross the 2\Ndegrees centigrade warming threshold, we
Dialogue: 0,0:07:32.76,0:07:42.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will be on autopilot to 2.5, 3 degrees,\N3.5 and 4 degrees. And that's simply an
Dialogue: 0,0:07:42.24,0:07:48.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,unstoppable course. No amount of carbon\Nscrubbing can possibly compete with the
Dialogue: 0,0:07:48.31,0:07:55.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,self reinforcing feedbacks after that\Npoint. We're on a course to a very
Dialogue: 0,0:07:55.78,0:07:59.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,different planet. Just to give you a sense\Nof what 4 degrees, for instance, would
Dialogue: 0,0:07:59.43,0:08:03.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mean, should we ever get there, which it\Nlooks like we will before the end of the
Dialogue: 0,0:08:03.36,0:08:11.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,century if we continue business as usual.\NThe temperature rise from the Ice Age, the
Dialogue: 0,0:08:11.18,0:08:17.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,end of the Ice Age back 10,000 years ago\Nto 1850 was 4 degrees of warming. Now,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:17.30,0:08:27.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's 10,000 years of time for organisms,\Nincluding us, to evolve and adapt to that
Dialogue: 0,0:08:27.07,0:08:34.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,warming. We're looking at the same amount\Nof warming in just 150 years. There's no
Dialogue: 0,0:08:34.11,0:08:41.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,time to adapt. This picture I've tweeted a\Nbit, I suppose, but maybe too much. But
Dialogue: 0,0:08:41.72,0:08:44.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this was done for the New Scientist and\Nthe visualization of what the earth would
Dialogue: 0,0:08:44.18,0:08:47.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,look like, what the world would look like\Nat 4 degrees. Now, Middle and Southern
Dialogue: 0,0:08:47.75,0:08:57.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Europe are obviously entirely gone. North\NAmerica, Africa, South America and Asia -
Dialogue: 0,0:08:57.57,0:09:01.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they've all gone. I mean, where would\Nthose people go? Obviously, they'll head
Dialogue: 0,0:09:01.45,0:09:05.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,North. The states will move from a geo\Nstrategic perspective, would obviously
Dialogue: 0,0:09:05.33,0:09:16.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,move to Canada, China and to Russia.\NThere's been a lot of talk about as to
Dialogue: 0,0:09:16.33,0:09:19.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what that would mean for human populations\Nand human population numbers and of course
Dialogue: 0,0:09:19.70,0:09:23.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you read some wild stuff, how can we\Npossibly know? But this chap who's had his
Dialogue: 0,0:09:23.89,0:09:30.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,name on 120 papers or something like this.\NHe's one of the most highly regarded
Dialogue: 0,0:09:30.02,0:09:34.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,atmospheric scientists in the world, cited\Nover a thousand times across academic
Dialogue: 0,0:09:34.67,0:09:39.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,journals in the domain of atmospheric\Nscience, believes it's just a few thousand
Dialogue: 0,0:09:39.59,0:09:43.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people. The carrying capacity of the earth\Nis just a few thousand people seeking
Dialogue: 0,0:09:43.56,0:09:51.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,refuge in the Arctic or Antarctica. And of\Ncourse, all the way to 4 degrees, we have
Dialogue: 0,0:09:51.93,0:09:58.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,war, we have resource depletion driving\Nconflicts, we have mass migration and very
Dialogue: 0,0:09:58.27,0:10:04.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,unfortunately it is fairly safe to\Nconclude that children alive today will,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:04.32,0:10:08.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even those still again, relatively\Nunimaginable, but based on the best
Dialogue: 0,0:10:08.15,0:10:14.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,available information, very probably face\Nmass migration, war and hunger. Should we
Dialogue: 0,0:10:14.34,0:10:18.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not turn things around? This is just\Nsimply the way it is. This is where we are
Dialogue: 0,0:10:18.89,0:10:24.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going. But surely governments would never\Nlet that happen. You hear that a lot. But
Dialogue: 0,0:10:24.74,0:10:29.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the thing is, they have let that happen\Nand they are continuing to let that
Dialogue: 0,0:10:29.70,0:10:44.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,happen. Appropriate response is probably\Nthis. This UK pop artist, experimental pop
Dialogue: 0,0:10:44.10,0:10:49.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stuff, said this, write this down on a\Nnapkin one day. I really like it. "Hope
Dialogue: 0,0:10:49.47,0:10:52.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without honesty is denial" because people\Nreach for hope at these times. But I also
Dialogue: 0,0:10:52.81,0:11:00.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really like Kate Malveaux, climate\Nscientist. She said that we don't need
Dialogue: 0,0:11:00.51,0:11:06.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hope, we need courage. Courage is the\Nresolve to do well without the assurance
Dialogue: 0,0:11:06.30,0:11:12.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of a happy ending. This is more what we\Nneed to be going. Thanks of course, giving
Dialogue: 0,0:11:12.28,0:11:16.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,us a bit of a hand here with this. From\Nthis moment the spear ends and techniques
Dialogue: 0,0:11:16.21,0:11:23.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,begin. And truth is, there's no hope\Nwithout action. This is really where we
Dialogue: 0,0:11:23.35,0:11:28.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stand and this is not just my opinion. It\Nhappens to be an opinion very widely
Dialogue: 0,0:11:28.99,0:11:33.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,spread. In fact, the world scientists in\Ntheir " A second warning to humanity",
Dialogue: 0,0:11:33.38,0:11:39.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very recently wrote that same thing. They\Nsaid that with a groundswell of organized
Dialogue: 0,0:11:39.60,0:11:45.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,grassroots efforts, dogged opposition can\Nbe overcome and political leaders
Dialogue: 0,0:11:45.48,0:11:53.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,compelled to do the right thing. Now that\Nis 15,364 scientists from 184 countries.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:53.30,0:11:58.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's the most scientific document in all\Nhistory. They are urging us in the
Dialogue: 0,0:11:58.35,0:12:07.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,absolute and, you know, ineptitude and\Nlack of engagement from governments to
Dialogue: 0,0:12:07.07,0:12:12.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually rise up and force governments to\Nact. That's what they're telling us to do.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:12.91,0:12:17.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you can look at this as a bit like,\Nyou know, imagine you have a disease, a
Dialogue: 0,0:12:17.82,0:12:24.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very rare disease and that the world's\Nexperts, you know, that those those
Dialogue: 0,0:12:24.17,0:12:30.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,scientists, 15,364 scientists, contains\Nmost of the world's Nobel laureates,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:30.21,0:12:37.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,planetary boundary scientists, food system\Nscientists, geologists, biologists. They
Dialogue: 0,0:12:37.77,0:12:41.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,say that, you know, so from the\Nperspective of expert opinion, it doesn't
Dialogue: 0,0:12:41.19,0:12:46.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,get much better. You can imagine that you\Nhave a disease that very few people have,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:46.11,0:12:50.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the world's expert says to you:\N"Listen, it's really grim. You are looking
Dialogue: 0,0:12:50.88,0:12:58.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at a at a particularly bleak end, an ugly\Nend, unless, of course, you stop now doing
Dialogue: 0,0:12:58.02,0:13:06.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these things". You can also think that our\Nspace habitat has a variety of subsystems,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:06.23,0:13:11.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is a freshwater subsystem that looks at\Nwater purification and filtration, a
Dialogue: 0,0:13:11.56,0:13:18.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thermal regulation subsystem. You could\Nlook at food pods. They are being attacked
Dialogue: 0,0:13:18.77,0:13:23.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on our space habitat. If you don't like\Nthe word environmental or earth, you think
Dialogue: 0,0:13:23.11,0:13:28.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's a bit too kind of patchouli dose to a\Nhippie. Then think of it this way, because
Dialogue: 0,0:13:28.06,0:13:32.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is what's happening. What they're\Ntelling us is that it's time to rebel.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:32.11,0:13:38.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's time to force governments to act\Nbecause they are not acting. No more
Dialogue: 0,0:13:38.93,0:13:44.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,business as usual. What we need is massive\Nswarming, nonviolent, uncontainable civil
Dialogue: 0,0:13:44.86,0:13:50.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,disobedience en masse. Civil disobedience,\Nunlike protests were you just get out on
Dialogue: 0,0:13:50.63,0:13:56.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the street on a little key area with a\Npolice permit for the protest, holding
Dialogue: 0,0:13:56.53,0:14:02.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,little signs, oi oi oi. Civil disobedience\Nactually works. It has
Dialogue: 0,0:14:02.96,0:14:07.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,provably worked. South Africa versus\Napartheid. India versus the British Roche.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:07.19,0:14:15.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,U.S. Civil Rights Movement. The Velvet\NRevolution. It's the way to go. Extinction
Dialogue: 0,0:14:15.46,0:14:20.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rebellion is very much a manifestation of\Nthat energy at the idea of actually
Dialogue: 0,0:14:20.07,0:14:26.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,channeling civil disobedience to the ends\Nof driving change is very much what it's
Dialogue: 0,0:14:26.68,0:14:33.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about. It's the kernel of the movement. It\Nstarted in October 31st, where a bunch of
Dialogue: 0,0:14:33.48,0:14:38.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,British activists marched onto Parliament\NSquare and declared a rebellion against
Dialogue: 0,0:14:38.71,0:14:43.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the British government for its lack of\Naction on the climate and the ecological
Dialogue: 0,0:14:43.26,0:14:49.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,emergency. And then soon afterwards, 6000\Nor so descended upon London and
Dialogue: 0,0:14:49.90,0:14:57.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,effectively shut down the city center by\Noccupying five bridges. Extinction
Dialogue: 0,0:14:57.37,0:15:01.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rebellion is a leaderless... That's very\Nimportant. I mean, is that the press of
Dialogue: 0,0:15:01.25,0:15:05.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,always reaches for a figurehead, but it is\Nvery much a leaderless. That's not steered
Dialogue: 0,0:15:05.77,0:15:10.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by the UK , Decentralized International, \Napolitical network using nonviolent direct
Dialogue: 0,0:15:10.02,0:15:14.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,action and civil disobedience to persuade\Ngovernments to act justly on the climate
Dialogue: 0,0:15:14.56,0:15:19.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ecological emergency. I'm just going to\Nshow a couple of videos right now to just
Dialogue: 0,0:15:19.84,0:15:26.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,give you a sense of the kind of what civil\Ndisobedience in this case actually
Dialogue: 0,0:15:26.35,0:15:31.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,comprises. I'll show you a video from\NFrance particularly focused on
Dialogue: 0,0:15:31.21,0:15:35.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,overconsumption. We're talking about\Nresource depletion here in the CCC this
Dialogue: 0,0:15:35.81,0:15:41.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,year, which I think is great. And this was\Na protest at Block Friday instead of Black
Dialogue: 0,0:15:41.23,0:15:47.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Friday, which is, of course, a mass\Nconsumers event. Here we go.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:47.01,0:17:19.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}music plays{\i0}
Dialogue: 0,0:17:19.99,0:17:24.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They occupied a shopping mall for seven
Dialogue: 0,0:17:24.16,0:17:27.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hours and a whole bunch of stores across\Nthe country, Apple Store, etc., just
Dialogue: 0,0:17:27.14,0:17:31.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fantastic stuff. And you might think\N'where's this going?'. Well. And is that
Dialogue: 0,0:17:31.58,0:17:34.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really the only approach, you know, occupy\Nmalls and shops, et cetera, et cetera?
Dialogue: 0,0:17:34.86,0:17:37.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'll show you another video for a very\Ndifferent strategy. This is extension
Dialogue: 0,0:17:37.98,0:17:44.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rebellion, New York City occupying Times\NSquare. And I think this is definitely...
Dialogue: 0,0:17:44.07,0:17:48.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh, what is the video called? That's\Nright... Player.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:48.100,0:18:00.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}music plays, drums beating{\i0}
Dialogue: 0,0:18:00.53,0:18:02.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sorry, It's a but cut off, isn't it?
Dialogue: 0,0:18:02.49,0:18:05.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Again? Or wait, whatever.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:08.46,0:18:11.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People in the video shouting repeadeatly:
Dialogue: 0,0:18:11.54,0:18:16.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is an emergency! This is an\Nemergency!
Dialogue: 0,0:18:20.24,0:18:22.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}music plats, drums beating{\i0}
Dialogue: 0,0:19:05.79,0:19:10.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is an emergency! This is an\Nemergency!
Dialogue: 0,0:19:28.39,0:19:34.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Person in video: Good Morning, New York\NCity! This is Extinction Rebellion
Dialogue: 0,0:19:34.11,0:19:38.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,enforcing an international\Nrebellion...{\i1}continues unintelligible{\i0}
Dialogue: 0,0:19:38.95,0:19:42.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}shouting and drums beating{\i0}
Dialogue: 0,0:19:42.22,0:19:45.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Subtitles appear in video, therefore left out here]
Dialogue: 0,0:20:34.23,0:20:38.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,\NJulian: Well, anyway, you get the idea.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:38.05,0:20:42.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}applause{\i0}
Dialogue: 0,0:20:42.01,0:20:45.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So something's wrong with my copy of my \Nwith my render buffer there, I can see that.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:45.82,0:20:48.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know, anyway. Three demands.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:48.64,0:20:54.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Typically, some branches have more. There\Nare many branches now. 600 plus branches
Dialogue: 0,0:20:54.24,0:20:59.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all over the world. Some have four demands\Nfor us, as in the US. Some of these state
Dialogue: 0,0:20:59.59,0:21:03.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,branches have added a fourth demand for\Nclimate ecological justice for those most
Dialogue: 0,0:21:03.36,0:21:09.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,affected by changes within planetary\Nboundaries. Sorry, changes above and
Dialogue: 0,0:21:09.42,0:21:12.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,beyond planetary boundaries. But in\Ngeneral, there's this kernel of sort of
Dialogue: 0,0:21:12.75,0:21:16.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,three demands. Tell the truth. Government\Nmust tell the truth by declaring a climate
Dialogue: 0,0:21:16.50,0:21:19.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and ecological emergency. Working with\Nother institutions to communicate the
Dialogue: 0,0:21:19.98,0:21:24.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,urgency for change. Act now. Government.\NGovernment must act now to halt
Dialogue: 0,0:21:24.38,0:21:29.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,biodiversity loss and reduce greenhouse\Ngas emissions to net zero by 2025. 2025,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:29.08,0:21:33.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you say. Understand? You might think that\Nis a little bit short, but it's good to
Dialogue: 0,0:21:33.06,0:21:38.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have goals beyond politics. Government\Nmust create and be and be led by the
Dialogue: 0,0:21:38.66,0:21:45.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,decisions of a citizen assembly on climate\Necological justice. And it is working
Dialogue: 0,0:21:45.94,0:21:52.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,significantly. In fact, if you go to this\Nclimate mobilizationorg map and you will
Dialogue: 0,0:21:52.84,0:21:58.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,see that states, municipalities and cities\Nall over the world, tons of them have in
Dialogue: 0,0:21:58.65,0:22:03.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fact declared a climate ecological\Nemergency. What they do after that point
Dialogue: 0,0:22:03.02,0:22:09.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is, of course, the next step. But I can't\Nfind a single one of these that is dated
Dialogue: 0,0:22:09.81,0:22:14.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to before April this year. So in just one\Nyear, that is a significant political
Dialogue: 0,0:22:14.93,0:22:16.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,transformation.\N{\i1}applause{\i0}
Dialogue: 0,0:22:16.93,0:22:24.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yep, yes. And it's certainly not just\Nextinction rebellion. It's Fridays for
Dialogue: 0,0:22:24.80,0:22:31.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,future have been just upping the game.\NThey're massively, so, respect! At the COP
Dialogue: 0,0:22:31.95,0:22:37.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,25, which was obviously like a massive\Nfailure in itself, extinction rebellion
Dialogue: 0,0:22:37.07,0:22:41.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was listed as the most influential\Norganization above the World Bank,
Dialogue: 0,0:22:41.86,0:22:49.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Greenpeace, et cetera, et cetera. So it's\Na relatively short kind of rise of a voice
Dialogue: 0,0:22:49.37,0:22:54.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for this particular movement.\NNow, infrastructure for
Dialogue: 0,0:22:54.39,0:22:58.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rebellion. Unfortunately, the movement got\Noff to a reasonably bad start in the UK in
Dialogue: 0,0:22:58.10,0:23:00.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that respect. They went from the\Nperspective of...
Dialogue: 0,0:23:00.95,0:23:03.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What's that? That's a bit odd.\N{\i1}referring to the red blink glitch{\i0}
Dialogue: 0,0:23:03.69,0:23:07.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They went from the perspective that we are\Nan above ground movement. We work in
Dialogue: 0,0:23:07.12,0:23:14.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the open. It's not really good for civil disobedience\Nto have that as your mandate or a priority.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:14.01,0:23:17.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there in the UK, things are, of\Ncourse, a little bit different. It's
Dialogue: 0,0:23:17.28,0:23:20.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something of a playground there for civil\Ndisobedience. The police are generally
Dialogue: 0,0:23:20.25,0:23:22.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,quite nice. In fact, one of the chief of\Npolice in the UK said 'Well, they're
Dialogue: 0,0:23:22.72,0:23:28.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually quite nice people, these\Nactivists'. This is not something that
Dialogue: 0,0:23:28.79,0:23:34.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,exports very well. It doesn't even export\Nover the border. I'll talk about them in a
Dialogue: 0,0:23:34.66,0:23:39.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,moment. But they really settled on base\Ncamp over in the US. They just went
Dialogue: 0,0:23:39.95,0:23:45.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,straight to base camp. Google for sharing\Nlike things like contact lists. They
Dialogue: 0,0:23:45.11,0:23:51.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,didn't have anyone with technical, shall\Nwe say, know how or operational security
Dialogue: 0,0:23:51.75,0:23:55.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,intuition or interest to look at it any\Nother way. So they just reach for what's
Dialogue: 0,0:23:55.77,0:24:00.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at hand. The Action Network, too, hosted\Nover in the United States Base camp, I
Dialogue: 0,0:24:00.49,0:24:07.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mean, the extinction rebellion explicitly\Nbreaks base camps terms of service. You
Dialogue: 0,0:24:07.32,0:24:09.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,may not use the service or any illegal\Npurpose. Well, civil disobedience is
Dialogue: 0,0:24:09.78,0:24:18.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,breaking the law. That's what it is.\NAction Network, which is widely used by,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:18.18,0:24:22.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,unfortunately, activist movements all over\Nthe world, humans rights spaces as well...
Dialogue: 0,0:24:22.25,0:24:26.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They they really use it a lot. They have\Njust crazy stuff. You understand and agree
Dialogue: 0,0:24:26.89,0:24:30.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we may disclose your information if\Nrequired to do so by law or court order a
Dialogue: 0,0:24:30.90,0:24:35.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,legal process some point, including to\Nrespond to any government or regulatory
Dialogue: 0,0:24:35.74,0:24:40.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,request. I mean, this is nuts. Action\NNetwork hosted over in the US under a
Dialogue: 0,0:24:40.82,0:24:46.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Trump surveillance apparatus, that massive\Napparatus that Obama expanded hugely and
Dialogue: 0,0:24:46.10,0:24:52.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just gave to Trump. And I mean, this is an\Nunsafe environment for hosting, you know,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:52.67,0:25:02.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,contact lists.On the 3rd of of November\Nlast year, my partner said they really
Dialogue: 0,0:25:02.00,0:25:07.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,should be an extinction rebellion in\NFrance. And and I immediately thought,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:07.68,0:25:15.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well, they will need a server. There in\NFrance, you do not want your activists on
Dialogue: 0,0:25:15.21,0:25:17.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Action Network. I mean, you don't want\Nthem using Google because, I mean, in
Dialogue: 0,0:25:17.93,0:25:23.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,France, this is the situation. Here's\NFrance. This is, in fact, Paris and Sally
Dialogue: 0,0:25:23.82,0:25:28.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Bridge in the center of Paris with just\Ncops cruising past and just tear gas and
Dialogue: 0,0:25:28.36,0:25:32.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even taking the sunglasses off and just\Nand just spraying them right in the face.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:32.83,0:25:39.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is Youth for Climate protesting\Noutside an Amazon logistics center. Very
Dialogue: 0,0:25:39.53,0:25:43.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,recently, in fact. Youth for climate, just\Nwith with a guy wearing the French stripes
Dialogue: 0,0:25:43.97,0:25:47.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the background overseeing it. He says,\N'Yep, you can do it. The state says it's
Dialogue: 0,0:25:47.100,0:25:54.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OK', and just sprays them. You know, this\Nis France. It's a different environment.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:54.20,0:25:58.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I just really got them up and running\Nwith something really fast. Iceland was
Dialogue: 0,0:25:58.57,0:26:02.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,chosen because Icelanders is very well\Nknown for its strict data protection laws.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:02.84,0:26:09.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's well outside of obviously the EU and\Nof course, the five eye states. And I went
Dialogue: 0,0:26:09.82,0:26:16.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the FlokiNET, geothermal direct from\Nsource, more direct from grid source.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:16.32,0:26:20.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Discourse for the forum rather than base\Ncamp, for instance. Nextcloud for all the
Dialogue: 0,0:26:20.91,0:26:24.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vital stuff replacing Google Drive, etc.\Nhardened opened VPN and a data partition
Dialogue: 0,0:26:24.70,0:26:31.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on AES-XTS on 512, Jitsi-Meet for calls\Nbit and just a very simple MTA. In fact,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:31.51,0:26:38.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's not really an empty, it's just a just\Nemail, XM. XM form. Meanwhile, the
Dialogue: 0,0:26:38.07,0:26:41.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,international movement as branches were\Npopping up all over the world, were
Dialogue: 0,0:26:41.84,0:26:46.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,descending on slack. Now slack is\Nparticularly problematic for a variety of
Dialogue: 0,0:26:46.30,0:26:50.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reasons. But what's there's a reason why\Nthey were jumping on slack. They wanted a
Dialogue: 0,0:26:50.48,0:26:59.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,place to share their extinction rebellion,\Nbroader global needs. I mean, this is just
Dialogue: 0,0:26:59.85,0:27:05.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a few thousand people at that stage. Some\Npeople were members of multiple teams. And
Dialogue: 0,0:27:05.70,0:27:08.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,importantly, they chose Slack because\NSlack does it for something that group
Dialogue: 0,0:27:08.88,0:27:13.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,chat does not. Many teams, each with\Nchannels, public and private, and this is
Dialogue: 0,0:27:13.08,0:27:20.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just the, it is hard to call it, an\Ninnovation, but slack itself, is chosen
Dialogue: 0,0:27:20.67,0:27:25.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for that team based structuring\Nconfiguration over group chat for a very
Dialogue: 0,0:27:25.56,0:27:29.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,good reason. It is a direct messaging back\Nend. Many national branches means many
Dialogue: 0,0:27:29.92,0:27:34.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,teams. Some people belong to more than one\Nteam. But the problem with Slack is that
Dialogue: 0,0:27:34.17,0:27:37.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Slack is a racist infrastructure. It\Nactually has its discriminatory
Dialogue: 0,0:27:37.26,0:27:43.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,infrastructure. Slack voluntarily chose to\Nfollow Trump's digital trade embargo,
Dialogue: 0,0:27:43.49,0:27:49.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,blocking like Crimea, Cuba and Iran.\NSeveral other countries just because they
Dialogue: 0,0:27:49.16,0:27:54.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thought maybe I'd know Trump would buy\Nthem a Rolex, I'm not sure. But it's it's
Dialogue: 0,0:27:54.50,0:28:00.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nuts that they did that. And then they\Neven defended it, apologizing a little
Dialogue: 0,0:28:00.33,0:28:06.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bit. Sort of not apologizing later. Google\NDocs. Branches were jumping to Google Docs
Dialogue: 0,0:28:06.62,0:28:09.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to store contact lists. Here's your\Nregional coordinator, your national
Dialogue: 0,0:28:09.76,0:28:14.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,coordinator, your actions and logistics\Nteams - terrible stuff! So much so that in
Dialogue: 0,0:28:14.87,0:28:21.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the UK at least a seasoned organization\Nand protecting activists and ensuring that
Dialogue: 0,0:28:21.21,0:28:26.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they have legal rights or at least legal\Nprotections when they need them in the UK
Dialogue: 0,0:28:26.57,0:28:32.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,decided to pull out of support of\Nextinction rebellion on the basis that
Dialogue: 0,0:28:32.60,0:28:36.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,XR UK was storing personal data\Ninadequately and that they were very sure
Dialogue: 0,0:28:36.97,0:28:43.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that in fact the police would have access\Nto that information. Thus, when openness
Dialogue: 0,0:28:43.87,0:28:49.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is enforced, we have a regime of openness\Ndoing things out in the open. It excludes.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:49.19,0:28:53.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What about those that might work and\Ngovernments or government offices or
Dialogue: 0,0:28:53.07,0:28:57.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,corporations or just those that are a bit\Nnervous about getting involved in a civil
Dialogue: 0,0:28:57.71,0:29:01.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,disobedience movement? They're not sure\Nthey want to actually take that big step.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:01.97,0:29:07.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Those are not going to feel very\Ncomfortable at all doing it in the open.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:07.79,0:29:13.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A community owned hub and operated\Nhub for Extinction Rebellion was absolutely
Dialogue: 0,0:29:13.09,0:29:16.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,\Nneeded. And so I set out just building
Dialogue: 0,0:29:16.15,0:29:21.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,criterion for this had to be community\Nowned and operated, platform wise, free
Dialogue: 0,0:29:21.41,0:29:27.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and open source software outside of the\NFive Eye and EU member states. It needed
Dialogue: 0,0:29:27.53,0:29:35.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to walk its talk and enjoy energy direct\Nfrom source. No CO2 credits, a'la Google
Dialogue: 0,0:29:35.91,0:29:43.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Amazon. Debian simply because I've\Nbeen using Debian since the year 2000 only
Dialogue: 0,0:29:43.49,0:29:54.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and and I just love it. {\i1}weeps{\i0} If I start\Ncrying, you know why? It's not because the
Dialogue: 0,0:29:54.88,0:29:58.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,planet is dying, it's because I just love\NDebian so much. But it needs to be
Dialogue: 0,0:29:58.36,0:30:02.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,affordable and very well rooted. So,\N'mission coherent infrastructure' was what
Dialogue: 0,0:30:02.50,0:30:06.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is really often what I mean by that. Few\Npeople are aware that the global data
Dialogue: 0,0:30:06.65,0:30:11.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,center industry consumes or at least\Npushes out, I should say, as much carbon
Dialogue: 0,0:30:11.12,0:30:16.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into the atmosphere as the entire airline\Nindustry. This is the same amount as the
Dialogue: 0,0:30:16.60,0:30:26.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,UK. The United Kingdom itself actually\Nburns a year. It's a lot. And for
Dialogue: 0,0:30:26.24,0:30:32.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,organise.earth, which was the domain name\Nthat was chosen...Exactly 366 days ago, in
Dialogue: 0,0:30:32.08,0:30:41.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fact, it was born. I settled on mattermost\Nand I'll explain why in a moment. And I
Dialogue: 0,0:30:41.07,0:30:46.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I settled on datacenterlight in the\NSwiss Alps. Datacenterlight, direct from
Dialogue: 0,0:30:46.94,0:30:51.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,source hydro alpine catchment hydro... It\Nwas a beautiful Irony there, actually sort
Dialogue: 0,0:30:51.18,0:30:57.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of like a bleak poetry that as warming\Nmelts the snow on the Alps, it flows down
Dialogue: 0,0:30:57.60,0:31:01.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into these large catchment bays, which\Nthen drive lovely big generators that
Dialogue: 0,0:31:01.37,0:31:08.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,power the data center. So I just I can't\Nget past that. It's extremely well rooted.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:08.37,0:31:13.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Their VMs are wonderfully fast. I settled\Non mattermost for these reasons: We had to
Dialogue: 0,0:31:13.05,0:31:19.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,get thousands of people off Slack fast. So\Nthe U.S. similarity was mission critical.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:19.62,0:31:25.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are export path from slack directly\Ninto mattermost. It has that team check
Dialogue: 0,0:31:25.30,0:31:30.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,configuration that people in an activist\Ncommunities really like now. They've
Dialogue: 0,0:31:30.28,0:31:35.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,adopted that wholesale. It's reasonably\Nunified. UI/UX across the endpoint
Dialogue: 0,0:31:35.43,0:31:41.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,platforms, whether you're on iOS or\NAndroid or desktop. Team invite links.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:41.37,0:31:44.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Teams can actually control invitations to\Nthe teams by sending them a link and they
Dialogue: 0,0:31:44.91,0:31:49.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can recycle that link or at least flush it\Nand generate a new one when they need to,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:49.28,0:31:55.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to control flow. This basic team admin\Ncontrols. Extremely low entry barrier. The
Dialogue: 0,0:31:55.62,0:32:00.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,server was entirely funded by one fresh,\Nahm French - I was going to say Swiss.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:00.67,0:32:08.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then I said French. So I said fresh. - One\NFrench rebel. scales linearly as regards
Dialogue: 0,0:32:08.21,0:32:12.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,system overheads. It's just extremely\Nperformant. In fact, when we got to about
Dialogue: 0,0:32:12.82,0:32:20.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,20.000 people on organise.earth, the\Nserver population, matteremost itself was
Dialogue: 0,0:32:20.65,0:32:28.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,running at about 30 percent of one core.\N"Mattermost for chat. Anything sensitive?
Dialogue: 0,0:32:28.35,0:32:32.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Use Signal or Wire." And that's the rule\Nnow on organise.earth, which has become
Dialogue: 0,0:32:32.66,0:32:36.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very much the global hub for the movement,\Nwith four hundred and seventy-five teams,
Dialogue: 0,0:32:36.54,0:32:43.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mostly national or local branches. It's a\Nreally large Mattermost deployment. Why
Dialogue: 0,0:32:43.09,0:32:50.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not Riot and Matrix/Synapse? Well, in\NDecember 2018, when I was looking at it,
Dialogue: 0,0:32:50.64,0:32:55.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was a little bit immature. The UI UX\Nwas a bit geeky, but there were also real
Dialogue: 0,0:32:55.53,0:33:02.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,problems with with scalability. I just\Nseem to see that it wasn't something I
Dialogue: 0,0:33:02.87,0:33:07.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,could really know that hundred thousand\Npeople, for instance, down the road could
Dialogue: 0,0:33:07.68,0:33:14.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually all use on my particular site\Nhome server deployment. The device
Dialogue: 0,0:33:14.12,0:33:18.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,verification was really freaking people\Nout. I mean, some of the the great
Dialogue: 0,0:33:18.48,0:33:24.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,majority of the rebels, in fact, that we\Nare hosting are in fact the kind that
Dialogue: 0,0:33:24.56,0:33:31.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would look for a Google link to log in.\NThere's no markdown. That might seem a
Dialogue: 0,0:33:31.05,0:33:33.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,little bit arbitrary, but it's become\Nrelatively critical - especially for the
Dialogue: 0,0:33:33.97,0:33:38.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,code / development side of things and\Nformatting, making lists. Markdown is
Dialogue: 0,0:33:38.27,0:33:43.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,important. It doesn't have that link-based\Ninvitation management either. But there's
Dialogue: 0,0:33:43.70,0:33:48.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,also this metadata leakage concern -\Nsomething that the Matrix team are really
Dialogue: 0,0:33:48.14,0:33:54.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,looking at. And they've said so. They've\Nsaid that the metadata leakage, they want
Dialogue: 0,0:33:54.11,0:34:01.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to fix that. They want a more unified\Nexperience across the app layer, too, with
Dialogue: 0,0:34:01.14,0:34:06.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Riot. So I'm looking forward to following\Nthat in the future. Zero knowledge: I
Dialogue: 0,0:34:06.44,0:34:12.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would love to go that way. But given the\Nfact that that we already have use Signal or
Dialogue: 0,0:34:12.91,0:34:17.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wire for anything sensitive and use\NMattermost for anything else and use your
Dialogue: 0,0:34:17.66,0:34:21.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,individual branch servers, which I talk\Nabout in a moment, for anything truly
Dialogue: 0,0:34:21.43,0:34:26.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,internal to your branch, we've achieved\Nbasically the same thing because Riot -
Dialogue: 0,0:34:26.45,0:34:32.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just like with a Nimmo - is not\Nentirely encrypted by default. It's
Dialogue: 0,0:34:32.23,0:34:39.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something that one must actually set up.\NSo we're effectively in the same place.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:39.37,0:34:42.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Organized.earth has now grown to host a\Nlarge number of platforms which I have
Dialogue: 0,0:34:42.87,0:34:48.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,deployed there. We have, of course,\NMattermost. We have NextCloud to us. Only
Dialogue: 0,0:34:48.44,0:34:53.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,office is used for collaborative editing\Nthat has some missives I talk about in the
Dialogue: 0,0:34:53.95,0:34:58.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,moment. Etherpad-Lite is used really\Nheavily. LimeSurvey replaces Google Forms.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:58.48,0:35:03.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jitsi-Meet doesn't really replace Zoom.\NBut this is something that we're working
Dialogue: 0,0:35:03.01,0:35:10.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on very much. Rainloop with Docevot and\NPostFix for the for the mailing. And then
Dialogue: 0,0:35:10.67,0:35:16.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we have GitLab. GitLab has been a massive\Nsuccess. We have a few hundred coders now
Dialogue: 0,0:35:16.38,0:35:22.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,working flat-out in the GitLab that we\Nhave deployed. And it is very interesting
Dialogue: 0,0:35:22.87,0:35:26.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that many of them say that would they\Nwould not be able to do what they're doing
Dialogue: 0,0:35:26.50,0:35:32.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on GitHub. Given that GitHub is tied to\Ntheir work, GitHub is tied to the to their
Dialogue: 0,0:35:32.28,0:35:37.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,real life a little bit too much. And they\Nare genuinely worried about a boss or
Dialogue: 0,0:35:37.26,0:35:41.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,corporation or company surveilling them\Nwhen they are maybe, for instance, engaged
Dialogue: 0,0:35:41.76,0:35:51.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a project that is technically illegal\Nor quasi-legal. Discourse is used, I
Dialogue: 0,0:35:51.11,0:35:54.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,guess, less heavily on the main\Norganized.earth server than it is on some
Dialogue: 0,0:35:54.46,0:35:58.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the branch deployments. The French\Nserver, for instance, now has 70,300
Dialogue: 0,0:35:58.80,0:36:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,members in its Discourse. Yes, 70,300. What\Na win. Yeah. It's just like a marketplace
Dialogue: 0,0:36:10.00,0:36:20.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of chatter. Signal and Wire replacing\NWhatsApp and Skype. Mastodon node was
Dialogue: 0,0:36:20.69,0:36:24.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,created, which has become quite popular\Nwith branches. And we have PeerTube
Dialogue: 0,0:36:24.73,0:36:28.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,replacing YouTube. And importantly, we're\Nworking very hard to ensure that we have a
Dialogue: 0,0:36:28.39,0:36:36.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gender balance as much as possible within\Nthe open space of all these platforms. On
Dialogue: 0,0:36:36.19,0:36:40.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the backend, of course, Debian\N{\b1}sobbing{\b0}. AES XTS for the data
Dialogue: 0,0:36:40.62,0:36:47.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,partition. Failed2ban and UFW for the\Nfirewalling. (aside) Those of you that are
Dialogue: 0,0:36:47.12,0:36:52.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,taking photos of this are feds. I\Nsee you taking photos. Take photos.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:52.51,0:36:58.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\b1}laughs{\b0} Snort for the intrusion\Ndetection. Prometheus and hardened
Dialogue: 0,0:36:58.29,0:37:05.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OpenVPN. I'm really into Duplicity for\Nbackups and Pecona for hot MySQL backups.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:05.43,0:37:12.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a real problem when you're trying to\Nbackup huge databases that are 14-15 GB or
Dialogue: 0,0:37:12.12,0:37:16.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more: You can't take them down long enough\Nto do a dump with, say, MySQL or something
Dialogue: 0,0:37:16.86,0:37:22.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like this. Percona provides a really\Ninteresting solution for hot backups. I
Dialogue: 0,0:37:22.66,0:37:27.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had to work on optimizations with an IDB\Nheavily in order to get the kind of
Dialogue: 0,0:37:27.65,0:37:32.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,performance that was squeezing out of\NMattermmost in its interaction with MySQL
Dialogue: 0,0:37:32.35,0:37:44.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the server. Nginx we now support two\Nprotocols: v4 and v6. The v6 addition was
Dialogue: 0,0:37:44.28,0:37:49.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,certainly very, very bumpy and I wish it\Nwasn't so bumpy, but it was. I thought I
Dialogue: 0,0:37:49.22,0:37:56.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,knew or understood physics better than I\Nactually did the day of deployment.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:56.14,0:38:02.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,PostFix and Dovecot. And then we have\NLetsEncrypt. Platform challenges: Jitsi-
Dialogue: 0,0:38:02.94,0:38:09.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Meat does not replace Zoom. Zoom is just\Nsimply more performant. I think about 1.7
Dialogue: 0,0:38:09.36,0:38:19.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mbits/s is the lower-level, minimum\Nbandwidth required for a user in order to
Dialogue: 0,0:38:19.49,0:38:23.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have a quality call but Jitsi-Meet is\Nhigher. And so we do get people on 3G,
Dialogue: 0,0:38:23.39,0:38:28.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they just drop out and we sometimes have\N40 or 50 people on the call and Jitsi-Meet
Dialogue: 0,0:38:28.74,0:38:34.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is not cutting it, unfortunately. Only\Noffice unless you want to pay 6,000 a
Dialogue: 0,0:38:34.41,0:38:39.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,year, which of course we won't. You're\Nlooking at only 20 simultaneous editors at
Dialogue: 0,0:38:39.86,0:38:47.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the same time. This also needs to, needs to\Nchange. Thankfully, NextCloud's text app
Dialogue: 0,0:38:47.16,0:38:53.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,seems to offer us a sweet spot there, as\Nfar as simultaneous editing. In the
Dialogue: 0,0:38:53.19,0:38:57.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,meantime, EtherPad-Light is being used\Nreally heavily. There's a lack of epic
Dialogue: 0,0:38:57.11,0:39:01.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,controls in MatterMmost, which is\Nprecisely why we are forking it. We are
Dialogue: 0,0:39:01.20,0:39:05.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,forking Mattermost, which is a massive\Njob, such that team admins can have all of
Dialogue: 0,0:39:05.05,0:39:11.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those hundreds of teams can individually\Nmanage their memberships. That having to rely
Dialogue: 0,0:39:11.70,0:39:17.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on me to drop into the into the CLI and\Nuse the Mattermost tooling to do things
Dialogue: 0,0:39:17.70,0:39:26.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like following the GDPR, deleting all of\Nthe posts of a particular member. And we
Dialogue: 0,0:39:26.45,0:39:30.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have SSO expectations for a mostly non-\Ntech membership. People are so used to the
Dialogue: 0,0:39:30.83,0:39:37.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,idea, especially the very that the younger\Nand the older end of the demographic both
Dialogue: 0,0:39:37.39,0:39:43.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,expect one unified log-in for all\Nplatforms. And this is just a real hassle
Dialogue: 0,0:39:43.57,0:39:49.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and very difficult to manage. But with\NMattermost, it acts as a OAuth2 provider
Dialogue: 0,0:39:49.24,0:39:53.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that does offer us some interesting\Npossibilities there. The XR Server
Dialogue: 0,0:39:53.26,0:39:58.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Platform has since evolved to this. It has\NMailTrain as the mailing list manager and
Dialogue: 0,0:39:58.92,0:40:05.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is working real well. I'm at\NMailTrain V2 with a sweet docker compose
Dialogue: 0,0:40:05.61,0:40:09.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,deployment. I thoroughly recommend giving\Nthat a go to replace your mailchimp
Dialogue: 0,0:40:09.69,0:40:16.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whatever needs. We also have a 'Rebels\NManager' as the CRM. So this effectively
Dialogue: 0,0:40:16.12,0:40:20.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,replaces Action Network and it leverages\NMailTrain. There's a very talented
Dialogue: 0,0:40:20.83,0:40:26.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,developers in Brussels and Belgium that\Nhave put together the Rebels Manager,
Dialogue: 0,0:40:26.43,0:40:31.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which will be deploying across the entire\Nmovement. And yeah, it's working out real
Dialogue: 0,0:40:31.82,0:40:36.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nice as far as the deployments. The branch\Nservice deployed in the spirit of
Dialogue: 0,0:40:36.89,0:40:43.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,decentralization. I have deployed these\Nand there are many, many more to come. And
Dialogue: 0,0:40:43.24,0:40:47.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these are entirely independent from\Norganized.earth, from the main hub. They
Dialogue: 0,0:40:47.04,0:40:51.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are self run self-administered. Admins are\Ntrained over ten to twenty five hours and
Dialogue: 0,0:40:51.74,0:40:58.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then the keys are flipped and then they\Njust sail off on their own. 2020 plans:
Dialogue: 0,0:40:58.50,0:41:01.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Mattermost-fork I mentioned, but\Nimportantly, the Wire-Mattermost
Dialogue: 0,0:41:01.82,0:41:06.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,integration. What I'd really like to see\Nand what we're talking about with the
Dialogue: 0,0:41:06.59,0:41:12.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rebel codes is, I guess as we call\Nourselves, is to have a Wire Add-On or
Dialogue: 0,0:41:12.86,0:41:15.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Plugin for Mattermost such that you can\Njust simply click on a bunch of different
Dialogue: 0,0:41:15.79,0:41:20.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people that you'd like to engage in a into\Nanend-to-end encrypted voice call or chat.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:20.13,0:41:27.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're excited about that. Enhance team\Nadmin controls: Team administrators should
Dialogue: 0,0:41:27.15,0:41:31.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be able to do a lot of the work that that\NI shouldn't be doing. A Federation feature
Dialogue: 0,0:41:31.94,0:41:39.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which effectively replaces Mattermosts\Nenterprise offering, which is about three
Dialogue: 0,0:41:39.31,0:41:43.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dollars a month or something per seat.\NIt's a crazy amount of money. I mean, in
Dialogue: 0,0:41:43.68,0:41:50.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our populations that would be completely\Nimpossible to afford that sort of The
Dialogue: 0,0:41:50.19,0:41:54.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Enterprise Enterprise edition anyway. So\Nwe are actually sort of forced to fork
Dialogue: 0,0:41:54.07,0:41:57.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mattermost, which I'm sure is really gonna\Npiss them off, but we are going to do it.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:57.17,0:42:03.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've already started. Jitsi-Meet-rework:\NWe want to build an OAuth-wall for Jitsi-
Dialogue: 0,0:42:03.47,0:42:09.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Meet so that we can protect our instances.\NSimultaneous session recording, not using
Dialogue: 0,0:42:09.30,0:42:13.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jabari or with the chromium browser on a\Nserver, which I can't believe is the
Dialogue: 0,0:42:13.08,0:42:18.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,solution that they have chosen. I will\Nnever, ever install a browser on a server.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:18.74,0:42:28.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just it's just illegal. And it's just\Nit's just wrong. Bandwith optimizations,
Dialogue: 0,0:42:28.03,0:42:33.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we need a lot of work done there. Rebels\NManager replaces Action Network. And then
Dialogue: 0,0:42:33.46,0:42:37.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we want to have a member facing services\Ndashboard with that OAuth2-flow and
Dialogue: 0,0:42:37.68,0:42:43.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,particularly and very importantly,\Ncolocation deployments. Working out of VMs
Dialogue: 0,0:42:43.04,0:42:47.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is all very well but you do have key theft\Nfrom RAM as a as a plausible possibility
Dialogue: 0,0:42:47.82,0:42:52.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in many instances, so to speak. And so\Nwhat we would like to aim for is being
Dialogue: 0,0:42:52.96,0:43:03.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,able to drop off dedicated boxes with the\NRAM, epoxied into the slot and good to go,
Dialogue: 0,0:43:03.17,0:43:08.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nice on lockdown. Yes. Swiss VPN for the\Nentire movement, this is something that I
Dialogue: 0,0:43:08.60,0:43:12.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,should have done within it within a few\Nweeks. And I also want to obsolete myself
Dialogue: 0,0:43:12.82,0:43:17.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I can dedicate myself to other\Nmovements while maintaining at least a
Dialogue: 0,0:43:17.32,0:43:25.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tech advisory role within Extinction\NRebellion. But it is time for techies to
Dialogue: 0,0:43:25.41,0:43:34.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rebel. There is no hope without action.\NBut there is no action without
Dialogue: 0,0:43:34.57,0:43:40.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,infrastructure, at least not at the scale\Nthat we need it today. We need massive
Dialogue: 0,0:43:40.55,0:43:46.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,deployments, distributions. People need\Nplaces to work and to organize and to do
Dialogue: 0,0:43:46.68,0:43:55.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so safely. SysOps, DevOps, Codes, front\Nand back. All can dedicate an hour, a week
Dialogue: 0,0:43:55.37,0:44:04.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or a couple of hours a day to a cause\Nwhich is probably best described as the
Dialogue: 0,0:44:04.41,0:44:13.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,single biggest challenge that we as a as a\Nspecies actually face. Live in your time
Dialogue: 0,0:44:13.26,0:44:20.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and dedicate an hour or two a week or a\Nday, if you if you can, to this. Maybe not
Dialogue: 0,0:44:20.40,0:44:24.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Extinction Rebellion, but for Fridays For\NFuture, Sunrise Movement, future movements
Dialogue: 0,0:44:24.08,0:44:28.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to come. If you are interested in getting\Ninvolved in Extinction Rebellion and
Dialogue: 0,0:44:28.69,0:44:33.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,joining the the the very large tech team,\Nthen visit rebellion.global, find your
Dialogue: 0,0:44:33.71,0:44:41.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,local branch, get invited to Mattermost\Nand then see you there. Another end of the
Dialogue: 0,0:44:41.33,0:44:55.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,world is possible. Thanks a lot, guys.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:55.70,0:44:56.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}applause{\i0}
Dialogue: 0,0:44:56.70,0:44:59.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Herald: Thank you very much, Julian Oliver\N- Extinction Rebellion.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:59.17,0:45:06.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}applause{\i0}\NHerald: If you have questions, you know
Dialogue: 0,0:45:06.37,0:45:11.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the procedure. There are microphones from\None to number six. And as far as I know,
Dialogue: 0,0:45:11.80,0:45:15.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we already have questions from the\NInternet. So signal angel, question number
Dialogue: 0,0:45:15.43,0:45:18.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one please.\NSignal Angel: Hello, someone from the IRC
Dialogue: 0,0:45:18.34,0:45:22.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wants to know, how do you enter the\Nencryption passwords for your data
Dialogue: 0,0:45:22.14,0:45:25.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,partitions during automated reboots in the\Ndata center?
Dialogue: 0,0:45:25.71,0:45:34.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Julian: This is completely impossible to\Ndo for an encrypted root file system,
Dialogue: 0,0:45:34.83,0:45:40.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,obviously, one needs to, in fact, look at\Ndata partitions that are encrypted. But
Dialogue: 0,0:45:40.97,0:45:45.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the root file system not unfortunately on\Nmany the deployments that are not Colo and
Dialogue: 0,0:45:45.67,0:45:50.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those that do not have the flexibility of\Npresence at the point of entering that
Dialogue: 0,0:45:50.47,0:45:59.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,password. So from that from that basis, we\Nwe go with a an encrypted AES 512 Bit
Dialogue: 0,0:45:59.78,0:46:06.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,encrypted data partition and one comes in\Nover the VPN, tunnels in through SSH and
Dialogue: 0,0:46:06.11,0:46:13.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then decrypt and mounts. I realize this is\Nnot exactly ideal, but it is all we can do
Dialogue: 0,0:46:13.00,0:46:17.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the VM space.\NHerald: And the next question from
Dialogue: 0,0:46:17.15,0:46:20.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,microphone number two.\NMicrophone 2: Hello, first of all thank
Dialogue: 0,0:46:20.44,0:46:24.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you so much for all this work you've put\Ninto creating this platform for the
Dialogue: 0,0:46:24.88,0:46:31.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,movement. My question is, what measures\Nhave you taken to protect yourself against
Dialogue: 0,0:46:31.07,0:46:36.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the case where, for example, your home is\Nraided by police and they try to somehow
Dialogue: 0,0:46:36.83,0:46:42.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,get into the servers through other means\Nthan just impounding them.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:42.87,0:46:49.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Julian: I'm being socially engineered\Naren't I? n public? No, no, I'm I'm
Dialogue: 0,0:46:49.88,0:46:55.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,particularly cautious about that stuff.\NAnd all of us, all the sysadmins of which
Dialogue: 0,0:46:55.10,0:46:59.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there are now about 30 across the\Ndifferent branch deployments, we have
Dialogue: 0,0:46:59.16,0:47:04.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very, very strict procedures for this sort\Nof thing, including redundancy across
Dialogue: 0,0:47:04.69,0:47:09.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,backups, leaving home check, powering off\Nthe laptops. In fact, just like I
Dialogue: 0,0:47:09.59,0:47:13.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,installed the entire movement's\Ninfrastructure community on infrastructure
Dialogue: 0,0:47:13.46,0:47:18.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on a thinkpad X230 that I bought for one\Nhundred and forty five euros on the German
Dialogue: 0,0:47:18.01,0:47:23.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,eBay. And. And I've encouraged all of the\NSysAdmins to buy the same, precisely
Dialogue: 0,0:47:23.58,0:47:27.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because you have this lovely battery lock\Non the back. You can just flip it and and
Dialogue: 0,0:47:27.71,0:47:32.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pull out the battery. You know, if you're\Never facing police or a stop and search.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:32.29,0:47:36.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And of course, some countries like, you\Nknow, maybe India or Brazil, this becomes
Dialogue: 0,0:47:36.05,0:47:41.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really critical. But there is just a\Nroutine. I'm leaving home, I'm powering
Dialogue: 0,0:47:41.63,0:47:49.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,off my laptop. Just which screen-locker\Nwe're using, KeePass, you know, phones
Dialogue: 0,0:47:49.07,0:47:58.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,encrypted. The files, The, um, the file\Nsystem. And we just have to do our very,
Dialogue: 0,0:47:58.50,0:48:02.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very best. There is no such thing as\Nperfect sort of forward security in this
Dialogue: 0,0:48:02.74,0:48:07.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,space. But all we can do is employ best\Npractice operational security and also
Dialogue: 0,0:48:07.67,0:48:13.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,most importantly, treat sysadmins as high\Nrisk first stage targets, and they are
Dialogue: 0,0:48:13.47,0:48:18.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,increasingly so from this perspective.\NSysadmins are forbidden to go to actions.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:18.66,0:48:21.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They can not be arrested because there's\Nalways the possibility of coercion. And we
Dialogue: 0,0:48:21.25,0:48:25.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually have a whole kind of script with\Nsysadmins when they entering into the fold
Dialogue: 0,0:48:25.95,0:48:29.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to to explain to them, you are aware of\Nthe risks, you know, and you need to lean
Dialogue: 0,0:48:29.23,0:48:33.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on your branch to explain to you the \Nthe legalities of the of your
Dialogue: 0,0:48:33.07,0:48:37.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,operating environment. What are your\Nrights? Can you be coerced to to cough up
Dialogue: 0,0:48:37.24,0:48:44.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a password, you know, to to give the\Nmaster key to your to your to KeePass, for
Dialogue: 0,0:48:44.01,0:48:47.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,instance, like this. You need to know\Nthose rights. You need to know your
Dialogue: 0,0:48:47.83,0:48:50.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rights. And if you can't deal with the\Nheat and you don't want to go that
Dialogue: 0,0:48:50.62,0:48:53.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,distance, then step down from being\Nsysadmin and give it to someone else who
Dialogue: 0,0:48:53.64,0:48:59.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is willing to go that distance. There are\Nso many factors. And again, we can't
Dialogue: 0,0:48:59.35,0:49:05.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,generalize across the entire geo cultural,\Npolitical jurisdictional space that
Dialogue: 0,0:49:05.84,0:49:09.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Extinction Rebellion works at because it's\Njust so various. Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:09.76,0:49:13.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Herald: Thank you. And the Internet has\Nanother question.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:13.60,0:49:18.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Signal Angel: How do you keep your\Ncommunity of, as you explain mostly non-
Dialogue: 0,0:49:18.66,0:49:23.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,technical people on your geeky and\Ndecentralised solution as it grows?
Dialogue: 0,0:49:23.45,0:49:31.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Julian: No problem really keeping them. I\Nmean, It's maybe when one of the founders
Dialogue: 0,0:49:31.16,0:49:38.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,says something like completely\Ncontroversial or absurd. This is being
Dialogue: 0,0:49:38.20,0:49:42.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,recorded, isn't it? Then then yeah, we\Nhave we have lost some number,
Dialogue: 0,0:49:42.10,0:49:47.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,understandably, but still the served\Npopulation just grows day in and day out.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:47.01,0:49:50.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I am expecting in 2020, at this\Ncurrent rate, we are looking at a at
Dialogue: 0,0:49:50.28,0:49:55.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,around 400, 400 to 500 new members a day,\Non the Mattermost at least. And with
Dialogue: 0,0:49:55.97,0:50:02.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,branch server deployments, it'll be three\Nor four month until we've filled all the
Dialogue: 0,0:50:02.78,0:50:09.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,national branch requirements. There is no\Nproblem for that. Mattermost is seemingly
Dialogue: 0,0:50:09.45,0:50:17.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reasonably enjoyed, not so geeky in that\Nsense. Discourse is also very widely used
Dialogue: 0,0:50:17.43,0:50:23.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,within the, I mean Twitter uses Discourse\Ninternally, but also publicly. We see many
Dialogue: 0,0:50:23.86,0:50:28.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,large corporations and organizations and\NNGOs using Discourse as a forum solution,
Dialogue: 0,0:50:28.99,0:50:33.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as a discussion forum solution. So it's\Nactually familiar to a lot of a lot of
Dialogue: 0,0:50:33.24,0:50:38.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people anyway. The geeky ness, I would say\Nis probably when we start talking about
Dialogue: 0,0:50:38.87,0:50:42.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the need for a VPN. That's when a lot of\Npeople just switch off. So there's a lot
Dialogue: 0,0:50:42.38,0:50:46.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of cultural work, techno cultural work, if\Nyou like, that needs to be done there in
Dialogue: 0,0:50:46.16,0:50:52.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,order to secure the movement further.\NHerald: Thank you. Microphone number five,
Dialogue: 0,0:50:52.60,0:50:55.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,please.\NMicrophone 5: Hi there. Um, so you talked
Dialogue: 0,0:50:55.60,0:50:58.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all about your communication\Ninfrastructure. Can you share anything
Dialogue: 0,0:50:58.59,0:51:03.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about your financial infrastructure?\NJulian: That's also very varied, too. I
Dialogue: 0,0:51:03.42,0:51:07.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mean, branches have their own funding\Ncoming in, but then there are others that
Dialogue: 0,0:51:07.61,0:51:13.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that will receive funding from. Previously\Nit was the UK was managing a lot of that
Dialogue: 0,0:51:13.00,0:51:19.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,funding. That's entirely switching now to\Nthe international support team, which is a
Dialogue: 0,0:51:19.15,0:51:23.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,multinational group, if you like,\Norganization within Extinction Rebellion
Dialogue: 0,0:51:23.09,0:51:26.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that does handle all the finances and\Ndonors would come to the movement wanting
Dialogue: 0,0:51:26.97,0:51:31.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to give money. And then that's distributed\Nthroughout the movement as needed to meet
Dialogue: 0,0:51:31.08,0:51:38.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the ends of branches. It's still just a\Nyear in and it's still quite varied. I
Dialogue: 0,0:51:38.23,0:51:44.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mean, XR Germany, for instance, actually\Ndonated to the global movement recently.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:44.24,0:51:49.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it came back that way. It's I think\Nit's it's always going to be relatively ad
Dialogue: 0,0:51:49.95,0:51:56.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hoc, especially also given the fact that\Nsome financial institutions, state craft
Dialogue: 0,0:51:56.19,0:52:05.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are very much on the tail of. I just spoke\Ntoo much didn't I. But method no. Yep. You
Dialogue: 0,0:52:05.17,0:52:09.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,need to be very careful about about where\Nbank accounts are as regards the tax
Dialogue: 0,0:52:09.10,0:52:13.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,state. And so I think it's it's gonna be a\Nchanging environment for quite some time.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:13.36,0:52:16.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I didn't actually know much about the\Nfinances side of things to answer that
Dialogue: 0,0:52:16.69,0:52:21.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wholely, but yeah. Thanks.\NHerald: Thank you. Microphone number
Dialogue: 0,0:52:21.21,0:52:25.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,three, please.\NMicrophone 3: Hi. A lot of people find it
Dialogue: 0,0:52:25.64,0:52:30.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very hard to go from this content to\Ndissent and more people tend to get
Dialogue: 0,0:52:30.39,0:52:36.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,involved, involved if we lower the barrier\Nof entry. So, you know, it sounds great
Dialogue: 0,0:52:36.96,0:52:43.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when you say like a couple, couple a few\Nhundred new people a day globally. I
Dialogue: 0,0:52:43.82,0:52:48.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,suspect it would be more the low the more\Nyou lower the barrier of entry if you have
Dialogue: 0,0:52:48.09,0:52:52.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some sort of a gateway drug. So what are\Nyou thinking about making some kind of
Dialogue: 0,0:52:52.60,0:52:57.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,system, some some kind of easy invite,\Nsort of a one click, get an invite to
Dialogue: 0,0:52:57.99,0:53:00.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mattermost thing that would make it\Neasier.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:00.93,0:53:06.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Julian: Well that already exists. The\Norganise.earth is really only the global
Dialogue: 0,0:53:06.40,0:53:12.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hub where branches will, for instance,\Ninterrelate, collaborate and interoperate,
Dialogue: 0,0:53:12.57,0:53:15.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you like. But the branch server\Ndeployments themselves, they will handle
Dialogue: 0,0:53:15.01,0:53:20.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their own onboarding, if you like, but\Nthere is certainly some streamlining to be
Dialogue: 0,0:53:20.33,0:53:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,done there. One of the things that comes\Nup a lot is password complexity. We have a
Dialogue: 0,0:53:24.00,0:53:28.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very strict password complexity policy and\Nthat really frustrates people that would
Dialogue: 0,0:53:28.41,0:53:33.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like to name, would like to give the\Npassword the name of the dog, and the
Dialogue: 0,0:53:33.91,0:53:39.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,year, maybe, at best. But you know, we\Nreally need to work on on finding a sweet
Dialogue: 0,0:53:39.50,0:53:44.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,spot. We don't want to also have people\Ngoing into arrest, forgetting to power off
Dialogue: 0,0:53:44.15,0:53:50.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their phone after following the encryption\Noperational security guiding that we have.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:50.27,0:53:55.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then their phone is, you know, face\Nswiped into or something like this or
Dialogue: 0,0:53:55.96,0:53:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they're just tricked into swipe-unlocking\Nthe phone as happened in the UK and then
Dialogue: 0,0:53:59.99,0:54:05.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they're going to find their way into the\Nplatforms with best guess passwords. I
Dialogue: 0,0:54:05.15,0:54:07.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mean, who knows? We need to find a common\Nmiddle ground, but also educate as to why
Dialogue: 0,0:54:07.82,0:54:12.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's important that we use these platforms\Nand in these ways and have passwords of
Dialogue: 0,0:54:12.30,0:54:16.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these strengths, etc.. It's an ongoing\Nprocess.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:16.28,0:54:19.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Herald: I see the Interwebs has a\Nquestion.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:19.76,0:54:23.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Signal angel: Someone in the IRC wants to\Nknow, why did you think it was necessary
Dialogue: 0,0:54:23.59,0:54:28.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to set up new infrastructure instead of\Nusing other radical tech infrastructures
Dialogue: 0,0:54:28.72,0:54:35.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like Riseup for example?\NJulian: Well, Riseup had, yeah, has its
Dialogue: 0,0:54:35.13,0:54:39.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,own problems. We really wanted to go have\Ncommunity-run infrastructure such that we
Dialogue: 0,0:54:39.15,0:54:44.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can legally be responsible for that\Ninfrastructure, that we can say that it is
Dialogue: 0,0:54:44.60,0:54:48.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,here for us and that if there is any,\Nthere's any attacks on that
Dialogue: 0,0:54:48.90,0:54:51.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,infrastructure, we are in a much better\Nlegal position to be able to represent
Dialogue: 0,0:54:51.75,0:54:58.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ourselves from our operational\Ncircumstance and jurisdictional
Dialogue: 0,0:54:58.94,0:55:04.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,circumstance. It was also very important\Nthat it's in Switzerland. Importantly, in
Dialogue: 0,0:55:04.51,0:55:10.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Switzerland, for Swiss data centers, you\Nneed to break the law in Switzerland
Dialogue: 0,0:55:10.23,0:55:17.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,before there can even be a request for,\Nsay, a server seizure. And that needs to
Dialogue: 0,0:55:17.22,0:55:20.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,go through the highest courts. This makes\NSwitzerland a very, very nice place to
Dialogue: 0,0:55:20.88,0:55:25.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually deploy server infrastructure for\Na civil disobedience movement. Riseup
Dialogue: 0,0:55:25.32,0:55:31.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,simply doesn't meet it in that capacity.\NHerald: Thank you. Microphone number one,
Dialogue: 0,0:55:31.10,0:55:34.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,please.\NMicrophone 1: So my question was partially
Dialogue: 0,0:55:34.62,0:55:39.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,responded already about the financial\Ninfrastructure you have. I know some
Dialogue: 0,0:55:39.15,0:55:43.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,associations, but like, you know, they\Ncould afford a hundred bucks per year or
Dialogue: 0,0:55:43.00,0:55:47.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something like that, because that's so low\Nand, you know, doing brilliant work. But
Dialogue: 0,0:55:47.68,0:55:52.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so it seems to me that you deployed tens\Nof servers just for the V1. So what are
Dialogue: 0,0:55:52.58,0:55:58.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your initial cost? Could you lighten up\Nthat so that I can act back home? How do
Dialogue: 0,0:55:58.42,0:56:04.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you get the money initially?\NJulian: I installed almost all of that
Dialogue: 0,0:56:04.22,0:56:07.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,infrastructure without receiving a single\Ncent from extinction rebellion. And in
Dialogue: 0,0:56:07.75,0:56:11.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fact, I receive very, very little money\Nfrom extinction rebellion now. And it was
Dialogue: 0,0:56:11.06,0:56:17.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,only after burning through all of my\Nsavings from November to August, I burned
Dialogue: 0,0:56:17.19,0:56:20.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through all of my savings and ran myself\Nfinancially into the ground, ended it
Dialogue: 0,0:56:20.99,0:56:25.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,entirely on a gratis basis. And only then\Nafter that, I have a very small amount of
Dialogue: 0,0:56:25.86,0:56:29.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,living expenses paid, which is really\Ntiny, but just enough to cover my costs.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:29.80,0:56:34.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I can make a lot of money deploying\Nservers if I wish to for dreary NGOs etc.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:34.06,0:56:37.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,etc., but I have dedicated myself to do\Nthis on the grounds that it needs to be
Dialogue: 0,0:56:37.69,0:56:42.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,done and it needed to be done. Yeah. So it\Nwas actually free for the movement.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:42.85,0:56:56.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}Applause{\i0}\NHerald: Thank you for that.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:56.88,0:56:59.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Julian: Pleasure.\NHerald: Microphone number two, please.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:59.36,0:57:05.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Microphone 2: Right. You already mentioned\Nthat these server partitions are encrypted
Dialogue: 0,0:57:05.16,0:57:12.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the data center. So do you have any\Nother OPSEC mechanism in place? For
Dialogue: 0,0:57:12.23,0:57:16.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,example, if these data center's raided?\NJulian: The data center can't actually, at
Dialogue: 0,0:57:16.25,0:57:20.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,least without it being a breach of\Nconstitutional law in Switzerland, be
Dialogue: 0,0:57:20.45,0:57:31.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,raided. But there, are there are some\Nmeasures put in place for a switch-off in
Dialogue: 0,0:57:31.39,0:57:36.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the event. But I can't talk about that\Nwithout putting other people on the hot
Dialogue: 0,0:57:36.59,0:57:41.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,seat. Yeah, but it is it is all sorted.\NYeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:41.47,0:57:45.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Herald: {\i1}laughing{\i0} Thank you. The Internet has\Nanother question.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:45.66,0:57:49.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Signal angel: Someone on the IRC wants to\Nknow, do you share the recipes for your
Dialogue: 0,0:57:49.68,0:57:56.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,DevOps deployments? And specifically were,\NSignal and Wire difficult to set up?
Dialogue: 0,0:57:56.41,0:58:05.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Julian: Well, Signal is not so difficult\Nto set up, but maybe it is easily confused
Dialogue: 0,0:58:05.72,0:58:10.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the fact I mentioned the Wire server\Ndeployment. I'm in talks with Wire at the
Dialogue: 0,0:58:10.15,0:58:14.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,moment. Does that make Wire about a server\Ndeployment for the movement such that we
Dialogue: 0,0:58:14.18,0:58:21.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can actually run our own entirely and\Nagain, write apps for that for that server
Dialogue: 0,0:58:21.38,0:58:30.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for use in the movement. But I think Wire\Nand Signal, as far as an end user install,
Dialogue: 0,0:58:30.21,0:58:34.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is extremely easy in getting them up\Nand running. I think Signal has problems
Dialogue: 0,0:58:34.38,0:58:40.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,obviously with the phone number discovery\Naspect. I mean, SIM cards, I don't know,
Dialogue: 0,0:58:40.77,0:58:45.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they're license plate numbers these days.\NI'm really quite a fan of Wire's non-
Dialogue: 0,0:58:45.60,0:58:52.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dependance on that. But as far as the\Nblueprints are concerned, I really do hope
Dialogue: 0,0:58:52.38,0:58:59.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to write, as part of my self-obsolescence\Nplan is to write a full documentation for
Dialogue: 0,0:58:59.26,0:59:04.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the server installs, for the for the post\Ninstall ordering and such that I can be
Dialogue: 0,0:59:04.35,0:59:07.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,handed over to someone else to do the\Ndeployments for me. And I think I have
Dialogue: 0,0:59:07.42,0:59:11.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually found that person. That person\Nhappens to be German and very, very sharp.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:11.50,0:59:16.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I look forward to the possibility of\Npublishing that at that point. But for
Dialogue: 0,0:59:16.49,0:59:20.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now, it's just a case of me doing the\Ndeployment, and then I sit down with
Dialogue: 0,0:59:20.34,0:59:24.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sysadmins for 10 to 25 hours and walk them\Nthrough what that server is and how they
Dialogue: 0,0:59:24.97,0:59:28.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can sail that ship. It's how it's done at\Nthe moment.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:28.27,0:59:31.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Herald: Thank you. I think this is a call\Nfor participation, right?
Dialogue: 0,0:59:31.26,0:59:35.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Julian: It is indeed.\NHerald: Microphone number two, please.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:35.18,0:59:38.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Microphone 2: Is the Mattermost fork\Npublic available?
Dialogue: 0,0:59:38.48,0:59:42.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Julian: It will be, absolutely. I mean,\Nit's just started. It's something that we
Dialogue: 0,0:59:42.71,0:59:46.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just kicked off. So hopefully, by about\Nmidyear, I think we might have something
Dialogue: 0,0:59:46.34,0:59:52.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you could put into staging, maybe not\Nproduction ready, but we'll see. Yeah, I
Dialogue: 0,0:59:52.65,0:59:55.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think it's gonna be great. And it's gonna\Nbe great for the community as a whole. I
Dialogue: 0,0:59:55.30,0:59:58.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mean, outside of extinction rebellion, but\Njust those that would like an alternative
Dialogue: 0,0:59:58.15,1:00:02.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to Slack that doesn't have dumbed down\Nteam admin controls and has maybe
Dialogue: 0,1:00:02.05,1:00:05.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,federation, if you really want to grow\Nsomething really, really big. The sweet
Dialogue: 0,1:00:05.53,1:00:11.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,spot is a folk Mattermost. I'm convinced.\NHerald: Thank you. Microphone number
Dialogue: 0,1:00:11.76,1:00:15.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,three, please.\NMicrophone 3: Why no digital civil
Dialogue: 0,1:00:15.41,1:00:18.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,disobedience?\NJulian: Ah, yes, I can't talk about that,
Dialogue: 0,1:00:18.70,1:00:23.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I'm very, very enthusiastic about it\Nand have been engaged in that a little bit
Dialogue: 0,1:00:23.17,1:00:29.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,here and there in the past. But yeah,\Nelectronic civil disobedience is, is very
Dialogue: 0,1:00:29.01,1:00:32.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,close to my heart. And there's lots of it\Nhappening in the movement and it will be
Dialogue: 0,1:00:32.79,1:00:38.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in 2020, but I can't talk about that\Nobviously, at all. Yeah. Would love to,
Dialogue: 0,1:00:38.16,1:00:42.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I can't.\NHerald: So sad. Microphone number two,
Dialogue: 0,1:00:42.14,1:00:45.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,please.\NMicrophone 2: You're running a lot of
Dialogue: 0,1:00:45.05,1:00:48.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,services with huge attack surface. What is\Nthe worst that could happen should your
Dialogue: 0,1:00:48.15,1:00:51.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,infrastructure get compromised?\NJulian: With, services with what, sorry?
Dialogue: 0,1:00:51.25,1:00:54.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Microphone 2: What is the worst that could\Nhappen if your infrastructure is
Dialogue: 0,1:00:54.28,1:01:00.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,compromised?\NJulian: Um, well, the branch servers are
Dialogue: 0,1:01:00.46,1:01:06.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,entirely decentralized from the, from the\Norganise.earth hub. Um, I would like to
Dialogue: 0,1:01:06.66,1:01:11.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think that it's highly unlikely that\Norganise.earth is compromised, but if it
Dialogue: 0,1:01:11.34,1:01:20.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were to be compromised and I was not able\Nto instigate a power-off event in process
Dialogue: 0,1:01:20.21,1:01:27.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or prior, then unfortunately it would be,\Nthere'll be access to large email, um,
Dialogue: 0,1:01:27.01,1:01:35.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,registration information, largely, and our\NDB is database encrypted at the database
Dialogue: 0,1:01:35.13,1:01:40.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,layer, but unfortunately if one has root,\Nif one can privacy escalate to root, then
Dialogue: 0,1:01:40.79,1:01:46.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you would have access, potentially, to a\Ndecryption of the database. But there's
Dialogue: 0,1:01:46.25,1:01:54.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,little we can really do about that. Um, if\Nwe find in 2020, let's say there is
Dialogue: 0,1:01:54.58,1:02:00.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,encrypted by default. In other words, zero\Nknowledge with OMEMO or with Riot
Dialogue: 0,1:02:00.86,1:02:05.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,abstracted over Matrix and Synapse, well,\Nhopefully Dendrite, written in Go. And it
Dialogue: 0,1:02:05.51,1:02:08.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is really performant and it can run six\Nfigure populations, it can support six
Dialogue: 0,1:02:08.86,1:02:12.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,figure populations, then we'll absolutely\Nswitch to that and I will drive that
Dialogue: 0,1:02:12.34,1:02:17.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,change and that time. But in the meantime,\Njust use Mattermost for general team chat.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:17.87,1:02:22.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everything else goes over Signal or Wire.\NThat's how the movement runs right now.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:22.44,1:02:26.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah.\NHerald: Thank you. Unfortunately, we run
Dialogue: 0,1:02:26.08,1:02:30.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out of time. Julian, would you be able to\Nanswer questions in the, uh, after talk?
Dialogue: 0,1:02:30.97,1:02:34.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Julian: Yes, of course. Yes, absolutely.\NHerald: So the offer, if you have
Dialogue: 0,1:02:34.91,1:02:40.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,questions, come together, come to him and\Nask you questions. Julian Oliver, thank
Dialogue: 0,1:02:40.84,1:02:42.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you very much.\NJulian: Thanks, guys.
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