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Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.89,0:00:04.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, you can turn in your Bibles
Dialogue: 0,0:00:04.02,0:00:05.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with me this morning
Dialogue: 0,0:00:05.65,0:00:12.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to Ephesians 4.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:12.60,0:00:20.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not skipping the rest of 3.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.90,0:00:24.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is actually not part
Dialogue: 0,0:00:24.55,0:00:30.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the Ephesians series.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.49,0:00:37.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is one more topical message.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:37.48,0:00:42.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think next Sunday, Lord willing,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.72,0:00:47.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we will resume Ephesians 3.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.82,0:00:53.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let's pray.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:53.04,0:00:57.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh Father,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.43,0:00:58.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I feel weak.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:58.90,0:01:03.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These songs have expressed it -
Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.48,0:01:05.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our weakness.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.61,0:01:07.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where else would we go, Lord,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:07.83,0:01:09.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but to You?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:09.19,0:01:12.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We know that it is the very \Ncharacteristic of the wicked
Dialogue: 0,0:01:12.57,0:01:14.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they don't call upon You.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.32,0:01:15.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But Lord, we call upon You.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:15.70,0:01:18.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We need You.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:18.06,0:01:20.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lord, we don't want this \Nto be an exercise in futility.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:20.75,0:01:22.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We recognize when a man stands up
Dialogue: 0,0:01:22.67,0:01:24.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to open up the Word of God,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.66,0:01:26.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what is that?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.54,0:01:28.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's something that You've prescribed.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.95,0:01:31.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's something You've designed.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:31.07,0:01:33.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Something can happen.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:33.08,0:01:34.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It doesn't always happen,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.34,0:01:35.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but something can happen.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:35.88,0:01:37.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Something transformative,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.75,0:01:39.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something life-changing,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.47,0:01:42.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something upbuilding can happen
Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.34,0:01:45.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if You but own it.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:45.65,0:01:49.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lord, I pray, own this next hour.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.05,0:01:51.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Please. I pray in Christ's name.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.12,0:01:57.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Amen.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:57.14,0:02:07.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ephesians 4:32.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:07.68,0:02:10.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am reading, actually,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.01,0:02:15.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the parallel passage; the parallel verse
Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.89,0:02:18.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the 2nd of the 3 that Craig read
Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.96,0:02:22.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the first hour.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:22.70,0:02:24.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you're not already aware,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.51,0:02:27.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ephesians and Colossians
Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.17,0:02:29.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,obviously are not identical books.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.43,0:02:32.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there's aspects to them
Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.12,0:02:34.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that are not parallel,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.90,0:02:36.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but there is a great parallelism
Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.89,0:02:38.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between the two.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:38.75,0:02:41.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some of the same thoughts
Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.20,0:02:44.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and same ideas are communicated
Dialogue: 0,0:02:44.16,0:02:49.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in both of them.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.08,0:02:51.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Be kind to one another, tenderhearted,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:51.74,0:02:56.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,forgiving one another as God in Christ
Dialogue: 0,0:02:56.34,0:02:59.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,forgave you."
Dialogue: 0,0:02:59.02,0:03:01.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now when Craig read it,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.01,0:03:02.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we weren't conspiring
Dialogue: 0,0:03:02.70,0:03:04.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about what we were going to preach today.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:04.67,0:03:08.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When he read the three verses that he read
Dialogue: 0,0:03:08.14,0:03:09.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I thought, oh no, Craig,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:09.40,0:03:13.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't deal with forgiveness.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:13.83,0:03:15.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he even mentioned Denton I think,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:15.69,0:03:19.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I thought, oh no, \Nwhere's he going with that?
Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.22,0:03:22.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What did you say about Denton?
Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.01,0:03:24.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh, Jesse's - yeah, when \Nyou mentioned that
Dialogue: 0,0:03:24.34,0:03:26.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I thought, oh no! He's \Ngoing to talk about -
Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.86,0:03:30.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not Jesse's but somebody else's.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.62,0:03:32.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Forgiveness.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:32.99,0:03:35.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As many of you are aware,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:35.97,0:03:38.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the topic of forgiveness came up
Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.30,0:03:40.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at this year's Fellowship Conference
Dialogue: 0,0:03:40.17,0:03:41.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Denton, Texas.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.74,0:03:44.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it not only came up,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.20,0:03:47.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but if you were there,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:47.39,0:03:49.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,such things happened at the conference
Dialogue: 0,0:03:49.50,0:03:52.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that have not happened in others.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:52.22,0:03:59.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We had a pastoral response immediately
Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.53,0:04:02.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to a sermon that was given.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:02.62,0:04:06.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I know there was disagreement.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:06.76,0:04:12.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you weren't there, \Nit pertained to forgiveness.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:12.08,0:04:14.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was lots of discussion.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:14.10,0:04:16.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's been discussion even here.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:16.92,0:04:20.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I almost just went back \Nto my Ephesians study
Dialogue: 0,0:04:20.66,0:04:22.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and got away from this,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.53,0:04:25.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but last time two weeks \Nago when I preached,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:25.53,0:04:27.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there were some folks that were saying
Dialogue: 0,0:04:27.74,0:04:31.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we thought you were going \Nto touch on forgiveness.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.62,0:04:34.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think James even \Nsaid something to me
Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.03,0:04:39.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I thought, well, okay, \Nmaybe I should do that.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:39.95,0:04:44.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had some people say they were confused.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:44.11,0:04:45.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had some people that said,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:45.50,0:04:48.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well, they heard the message \Nand they weren't confused,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:48.16,0:04:51.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then they heard the two \Npastors that responded afterwards
Dialogue: 0,0:04:51.17,0:04:52.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they were confused.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:52.43,0:04:56.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it seemed like there \Nwas a measure of confusion,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:56.78,0:04:59.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and if there's anything that \NI don't want to have happen,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:59.70,0:05:02.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't want there to be any confusion
Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.09,0:05:05.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the subject in our church.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:05.38,0:05:07.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that's I wanted to visit it again.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:07.60,0:05:09.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe you listened to all that
Dialogue: 0,0:05:09.10,0:05:11.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you said we don't even \Nknow what the big deal was.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.67,0:05:12.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe you listened to it
Dialogue: 0,0:05:12.84,0:05:15.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you heard exactly \Nwhat the big deal was
Dialogue: 0,0:05:15.12,0:05:20.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and maybe you came down \Non one side or the other.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:20.14,0:05:23.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Look, quite honestly,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:23.27,0:05:26.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am not the guy who's out \Nthere on the Internet
Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.29,0:05:27.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just looking for a debate,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:27.80,0:05:29.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,looking for something I disagree with
Dialogue: 0,0:05:29.64,0:05:31.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I can just engage in.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:31.47,0:05:35.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not doing this just simply
Dialogue: 0,0:05:35.44,0:05:39.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to throw my opinion in \Nto an ongoing debate.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:39.69,0:05:41.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's not it.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:41.31,0:05:45.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I have no desire
Dialogue: 0,0:05:45.74,0:05:49.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to have anybody ask me \Nabout the opinions of others,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:49.21,0:05:52.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or what brother so-and-so meant,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.47,0:05:56.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or why did he say this,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:56.11,0:06:01.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or why did the other \Npastor respond this way?
Dialogue: 0,0:06:01.58,0:06:05.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was down in Monterrey one time
Dialogue: 0,0:06:05.23,0:06:09.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in a Q&A time, somebody said,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:09.40,0:06:12.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Could you explain how \NCharles Leiter's position
Dialogue: 0,0:06:12.82,0:06:15.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,differs from Josef Urban's \Nposition in this?"
Dialogue: 0,0:06:15.55,0:06:17.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's like, "No, I can't do that."
Dialogue: 0,0:06:17.99,0:06:20.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not going to speak for other men.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:20.52,0:06:22.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I don't want to do that.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:22.25,0:06:25.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I don't want to be in the position
Dialogue: 0,0:06:25.89,0:06:27.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of trying to tell you what different men
Dialogue: 0,0:06:27.97,0:06:29.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mean by what they said.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:29.50,0:06:32.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's not my objective here.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:32.61,0:06:34.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I want to do is simply
Dialogue: 0,0:06:34.51,0:06:37.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have us look at Scripture
Dialogue: 0,0:06:37.69,0:06:44.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and my aim is pastoral.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:44.27,0:06:45.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm concerned that we as a church
Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.97,0:06:49.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not be confused about the nature
Dialogue: 0,0:06:49.06,0:06:50.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of biblical forgiveness.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:50.62,0:06:52.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I'll get right to the point.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:52.14,0:06:55.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here in Ephesians,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:55.12,0:06:58.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Apostle Paul exhorts Christians -
Dialogue: 0,0:06:58.57,0:07:00.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you see it.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:00.36,0:07:01.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Look at verse 32:
Dialogue: 0,0:07:01.89,0:07:04.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Forgiving one another..."
Dialogue: 0,0:07:04.61,0:07:08.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And here's the big term: "as."
Dialogue: 0,0:07:08.92,0:07:11.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And all your Bibles have it.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:11.20,0:07:16.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"...As God in Christ forgave you."
Dialogue: 0,0:07:16.96,0:07:21.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now some take this verse to mean this:
Dialogue: 0,0:07:21.58,0:07:28.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, since we are to \Nforgive as God forgives,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:28.26,0:07:32.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,let's think, hm, how does God forgive?
Dialogue: 0,0:07:32.99,0:07:37.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, since God never forgives anybody
Dialogue: 0,0:07:37.47,0:07:40.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,unless they repent,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:40.08,0:07:42.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,therefore that's what it means
Dialogue: 0,0:07:42.18,0:07:44.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by "forgiving as God forgives."
Dialogue: 0,0:07:44.91,0:07:46.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That I will not forgive anybody,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:46.91,0:07:49.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or I should not forgive anybody,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:49.49,0:07:53.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,unless they repent.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:53.35,0:07:56.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's basically how the logic goes.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:56.12,0:08:00.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if in fact we were to \Nforgive the unrepentant,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:00.97,0:08:03.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're not forgiving as God forgives,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:03.56,0:08:06.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because God doesn't forgive \Nunless there's repentance.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:06.39,0:08:08.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, at first glance,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:08.75,0:08:13.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that might sound like \Ntremendous reasoning.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:13.34,0:08:14.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It might sound reasonable.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:14.59,0:08:17.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It might sound like good logic.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:17.87,0:08:21.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I would propose this to you.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.34,0:08:26.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is a forcing a meaning here
Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.81,0:08:30.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is not to be found in the context.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:30.45,0:08:32.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And one of the things that I fear
Dialogue: 0,0:08:32.48,0:08:34.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,happened at the conference
Dialogue: 0,0:08:34.42,0:08:40.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is this text was brought \Nout of its context
Dialogue: 0,0:08:40.84,0:08:44.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a point that the preacher
Dialogue: 0,0:08:44.58,0:08:47.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was already determined to make,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:47.34,0:08:50.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he found in this text \Nand he made it with it
Dialogue: 0,0:08:50.05,0:08:53.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it kind of lent itself to it.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:53.36,0:08:55.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The problem is that taken in context,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:55.72,0:08:59.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't believe it bears \Nthat meaning at all.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:59.24,0:09:01.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so that's what I want to do.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:01.03,0:09:04.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Brethren, this has to do \Nwith proper hermeneutics.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:04.83,0:09:07.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you are going to interpret a verse,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:07.51,0:09:12.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't take the verse by itself.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:12.06,0:09:14.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can come up with a lot of meanings
Dialogue: 0,0:09:14.57,0:09:15.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for certain verses
Dialogue: 0,0:09:15.98,0:09:19.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you wrench it out of its context.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:19.65,0:09:22.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But if you read the material around it,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:22.78,0:09:24.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you get a feel, especially if you
Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.52,0:09:26.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,read the whole epistle,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:26.61,0:09:28.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you just get the feeling -
Dialogue: 0,0:09:28.24,0:09:29.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what does Paul have in mind here?
Dialogue: 0,0:09:29.81,0:09:32.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In this case, I don't believe we have to
Dialogue: 0,0:09:32.37,0:09:33.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,read the whole epistle at all.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:33.80,0:09:36.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All we have to do is go back up to v. 17
Dialogue: 0,0:09:36.26,0:09:39.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and start to capture the feel
Dialogue: 0,0:09:39.98,0:09:46.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the argument that Paul is making here.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:46.32,0:09:52.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, before we go back up \Nto v. 17 and begin reading,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:52.23,0:09:58.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to suggest another meaning.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:58.21,0:10:00.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, it means what it says.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:00.56,0:10:02.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are to forgive one another
Dialogue: 0,0:10:02.44,0:10:05.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as God forgives us,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:05.83,0:10:08.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but when Paul says that we're \Nto forgive one another
Dialogue: 0,0:10:08.36,0:10:10.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as God forgives us,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:10.34,0:10:13.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the meaning is not
Dialogue: 0,0:10:13.15,0:10:15.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we're only supposed to forgive
Dialogue: 0,0:10:15.06,0:10:17.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those who repent.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:17.95,0:10:20.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rather, the meaning is
Dialogue: 0,0:10:20.78,0:10:25.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I am to freely bestow my forgiveness
Dialogue: 0,0:10:25.77,0:10:29.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to those who do not deserve it,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:29.41,0:10:35.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just like God bestows His forgiveness
Dialogue: 0,0:10:35.15,0:10:37.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to those who do not deserve it.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:37.94,0:10:39.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the issue.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:39.66,0:10:43.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'll prove that to \Nyou from the context.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:43.74,0:10:46.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My point is this:
Dialogue: 0,0:10:46.24,0:10:50.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Paul isn't even dealing with \Nthe terms of forgiveness.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:50.28,0:10:52.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like: The person I'm forgiving,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:52.15,0:10:54.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do they need to have repented or not?
Dialogue: 0,0:10:54.03,0:10:56.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's not dealing with the terms.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:56.74,0:10:58.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's dealing with the heart.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:58.78,0:11:01.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's dealing with the individual.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:01.10,0:11:02.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's not even concerned about
Dialogue: 0,0:11:02.94,0:11:05.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whether the other person is repentant
Dialogue: 0,0:11:05.01,0:11:08.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or non-repentant - \Nthat's not the issue here.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:08.40,0:11:11.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I hope to convince you.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:11.18,0:11:12.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The idea that Paul is teaching here
Dialogue: 0,0:11:12.94,0:11:14.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that God only forgives those who repent,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:14.96,0:11:17.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so we're only to forgive \Nthose who repent -
Dialogue: 0,0:11:17.09,0:11:19.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that seems to miss the \Nwhole point of the passage.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:19.64,0:11:23.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, let's look at it.\NEphesians 4:17,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:23.73,0:11:27.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"For this I say and testify in the Lord
Dialogue: 0,0:11:27.30,0:11:30.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you must no longer \Nwalk as the Gentiles do."
Dialogue: 0,0:11:30.58,0:11:33.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, you probably should stop right there
Dialogue: 0,0:11:33.72,0:11:35.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because that's the context.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:35.40,0:11:38.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The context is:
Dialogue: 0,0:11:38.18,0:11:43.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Gentile conduct versus the conduct
Dialogue: 0,0:11:43.15,0:11:45.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of those who have learned of Christ.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:45.26,0:11:50.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Old man conduct versus new man conduct.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:50.79,0:11:54.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Listen, the problem with the Gentiles
Dialogue: 0,0:11:54.38,0:11:59.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is not that they indiscriminately \Nforgive everybody.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:59.37,0:12:03.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Over against, contrasted \Nwith the Christian
Dialogue: 0,0:12:03.31,0:12:06.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who properly does it just like God does
Dialogue: 0,0:12:06.32,0:12:08.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and only forgives those who repent.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:08.27,0:12:10.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,See, that's not the \Nproblem of the Gentile.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:10.38,0:12:12.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Gentile problem is not
Dialogue: 0,0:12:12.84,0:12:16.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they forgive everybody;
Dialogue: 0,0:12:16.69,0:12:19.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they forgive even \Npeople that aren't repentant.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:19.28,0:12:23.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's not even the thought here.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:23.86,0:12:27.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"We must no longer walk \Nas the Gentiles do..."
Dialogue: 0,0:12:27.47,0:12:30.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How do they walk?\N"...In the futility of their minds,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:30.08,0:12:33.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they're darknened in their understanding,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:33.78,0:12:36.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they're alienated from the life of God."
Dialogue: 0,0:12:36.59,0:12:38.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the issue.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:38.54,0:12:40.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, the new man is created
Dialogue: 0,0:12:40.23,0:12:43.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the likeness of God.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:43.10,0:12:48.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The old man, the lost man, the Gentile -
Dialogue: 0,0:12:48.66,0:12:51.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,totally disconnected from God
Dialogue: 0,0:12:51.32,0:12:53.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"because of the ignorance that is in them
Dialogue: 0,0:12:53.36,0:12:54.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,due to their hardness of heart.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:54.96,0:12:56.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They have become calloused
Dialogue: 0,0:12:56.30,0:12:58.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and have given themselves \Nup to sensuality,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:58.86,0:13:02.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,greedy to practice \Nevery kind of impurity."
Dialogue: 0,0:13:02.07,0:13:04.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But notice this - here's the contrast.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:04.41,0:13:07.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"But that is not the \Nway you learned Christ."
Dialogue: 0,0:13:07.92,0:13:10.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I love that. I can't \Nwait till we get to that.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:10.66,0:13:14.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because that is Paul looking at
Dialogue: 0,0:13:14.75,0:13:17.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what is it that makes a true Christian
Dialogue: 0,0:13:17.83,0:13:19.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who is no longer a Gentile?
Dialogue: 0,0:13:19.66,0:13:21.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's looked at Christ
Dialogue: 0,0:13:21.73,0:13:24.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he's learned of Christ.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:24.07,0:13:25.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you can tell.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:25.71,0:13:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Paul means that if you've learned Him,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:29.00,0:13:31.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your conduct, your action, your behavior,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:31.99,0:13:37.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your character is stamped by that image.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:37.92,0:13:40.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, he says this:
Dialogue: 0,0:13:40.77,0:13:45.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,v. 21, "...assuming that \Nyou have heard about Him."
Dialogue: 0,0:13:45.35,0:13:48.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He doesn't look at everybody \Nthat's listening to him
Dialogue: 0,0:13:48.00,0:13:50.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and think, oh yeah, \Nthey've got to be Christians
Dialogue: 0,0:13:50.38,0:13:52.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they're sitting in the church
Dialogue: 0,0:13:52.15,0:13:54.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or because they're hearing \Nthis epistle read to them.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:54.80,0:13:57.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He says, of course, assuming
Dialogue: 0,0:13:57.55,0:13:59.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you did hear about Him
Dialogue: 0,0:13:59.54,0:14:00.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"...and were taught in Him
Dialogue: 0,0:14:00.88,0:14:02.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as the truth is in Jesus."
Dialogue: 0,0:14:02.89,0:14:04.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what is this truth in Jesus?
Dialogue: 0,0:14:04.67,0:14:07.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"To put off your old man."
Dialogue: 0,0:14:07.75,0:14:09.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know the ESV says "self."\NThe word is "man."
Dialogue: 0,0:14:09.94,0:14:11.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The old man.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:11.84,0:14:12.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The old you.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:12.98,0:14:17.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"...Which belongs to your \Nformer manner of life
Dialogue: 0,0:14:17.92,0:14:24.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and is corrupt through deceitful desires."
Dialogue: 0,0:14:24.78,0:14:28.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And to be received, or renewed,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:28.90,0:14:33.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"...in the spirit of your minds."
Dialogue: 0,0:14:33.10,0:14:36.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you see that, a renewing of the mind.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:36.85,0:14:39.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You put off the old man.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:39.46,0:14:40.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see this comparsion.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:40.91,0:14:45.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Gentile - you learn Christ.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:45.65,0:14:51.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,New man over against old man.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:51.19,0:14:55.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The mind.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:55.60,0:14:58.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,V. 24, "to put on the new self
Dialogue: 0,0:14:58.59,0:15:00.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,created after the likeness of God
Dialogue: 0,0:15:00.46,0:15:04.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in true righteousness and holiness."
Dialogue: 0,0:15:04.79,0:15:07.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What's Paul's point here?
Dialogue: 0,0:15:07.68,0:15:10.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Look, you cannot possibly continue to live
Dialogue: 0,0:15:10.82,0:15:12.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the old kind of life.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:12.22,0:15:13.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what he's saying.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:13.52,0:15:15.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not if you've learned Christ - you can't.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:15.62,0:15:18.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not possible. Not if \Nyou've really learned Christ,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:18.26,0:15:21.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you really do know \Nthe truth as it is in Jesus.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:21.02,0:15:23.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what he's saying.\NIt's an impossibility.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:23.53,0:15:25.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is not the way you've learned Christ.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:25.72,0:15:29.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Assuming you have.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:29.10,0:15:29.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the issue.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:29.93,0:15:31.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're no longer what you once were.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:31.81,0:15:34.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're a new man.\NYou're not the old man -
Dialogue: 0,0:15:34.06,0:15:36.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,carried about by all \Nthose deceitful passions.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:36.30,0:15:38.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the comparison here.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:38.99,0:15:41.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the back and forth.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:41.54,0:15:43.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what happens?
Dialogue: 0,0:15:43.86,0:15:45.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, you put off the old man.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:45.66,0:15:47.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You put on the new.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:47.24,0:15:50.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know what happens in v. 25?
Dialogue: 0,0:15:50.82,0:15:56.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In v. 25, Paul begins to touch
Dialogue: 0,0:15:56.04,0:16:01.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,specific realities.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:01.47,0:16:03.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He begins to touch on specifics.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:03.85,0:16:06.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Notice this, v. 25,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:06.71,0:16:09.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Put away falsehood."
Dialogue: 0,0:16:09.88,0:16:12.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see, he generally says
Dialogue: 0,0:16:12.14,0:16:15.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you put away the old man.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:15.40,0:16:18.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You put it off. You put on the new.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:18.68,0:16:21.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In v. 25, what he does is he breaks out
Dialogue: 0,0:16:21.21,0:16:22.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in some very particulars
Dialogue: 0,0:16:22.87,0:16:26.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about how that manifests \Nitself in real life.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:26.05,0:16:29.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you see the contrast here
Dialogue: 0,0:16:29.28,0:16:30.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,back and forth.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:30.81,0:16:33.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You have "put away falsehood."
Dialogue: 0,0:16:33.11,0:16:34.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what do you put on?
Dialogue: 0,0:16:34.89,0:16:39.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, "let each of you speak \Nthe truth with his neighbor."
Dialogue: 0,0:16:39.07,0:16:40.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we could pull stuff out,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:40.66,0:16:43.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it's very obvious in verses like 25.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:43.39,0:16:46.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,V. 28, "Let the thief no longer steal."
Dialogue: 0,0:16:46.47,0:16:47.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what you put off.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:47.90,0:16:49.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But what do you put on?
Dialogue: 0,0:16:49.21,0:16:51.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You labor, but not only labor,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:51.34,0:16:54.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you do honest work with your hands.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:54.05,0:16:54.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But not only that,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:54.96,0:16:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that you might have something to give.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:57.00,0:16:59.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see, the old manner of life -
Dialogue: 0,0:16:59.23,0:17:00.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the new manner of life.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:00.41,0:17:03.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's these contrasts \Ngoing back and forth.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:03.32,0:17:06.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, the reality is, v. 31 and 32
Dialogue: 0,0:17:06.22,0:17:08.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are a contrast.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:08.03,0:17:09.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you need to capture that.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:09.76,0:17:11.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because if you capture the contrast
Dialogue: 0,0:17:11.49,0:17:12.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of these two verses,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:12.60,0:17:14.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you recognize right away,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:14.88,0:17:18.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Paul is not contrasting Gentiles
Dialogue: 0,0:17:18.38,0:17:20.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who indiscriminately forgive everybody,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:20.64,0:17:22.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and saying, "oh no, we shouldn't do that.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:22.76,0:17:24.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You need to put that off.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:24.70,0:17:28.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you need to put on forgiving people
Dialogue: 0,0:17:28.23,0:17:30.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the way God forgives,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:30.15,0:17:32.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and He only forgives the repentant."
Dialogue: 0,0:17:32.19,0:17:35.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's not even here, folks.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:35.66,0:17:41.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Look at the contrast.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:41.42,0:17:43.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Let all bitterness and wrath and anger
Dialogue: 0,0:17:43.57,0:17:45.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and clamor and slander be put away."
Dialogue: 0,0:17:45.78,0:17:47.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see again: put away, put away.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:47.94,0:17:50.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is it that we put off?
Dialogue: 0,0:17:50.58,0:17:51.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"...Along with all malice."
Dialogue: 0,0:17:51.94,0:17:53.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then what do we put on?
Dialogue: 0,0:17:53.48,0:17:55.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Kindness: "Be kind to one another,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:55.56,0:17:59.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tenderhearted, forgiving one another
Dialogue: 0,0:17:59.13,0:18:04.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as God in Christ forgave you."
Dialogue: 0,0:18:04.75,0:18:06.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you see it?
Dialogue: 0,0:18:06.18,0:18:07.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The "put away."
Dialogue: 0,0:18:07.74,0:18:10.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know how contrast works?
Dialogue: 0,0:18:10.30,0:18:12.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You have opposites.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:12.75,0:18:20.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the opposite of \Nkind, tender, forgiving,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:20.06,0:18:28.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is not undiscerning \Nand forgiving everybody.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:28.64,0:18:31.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The opposite is being bitter
Dialogue: 0,0:18:31.81,0:18:34.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and not forgiving at all.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:34.06,0:18:35.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the issue.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:35.06,0:18:39.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Angry, wrathful, clamorous, slanderous.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:39.88,0:18:42.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Paul isn't even thinking
Dialogue: 0,0:18:42.42,0:18:44.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about the person who offends me
Dialogue: 0,0:18:44.21,0:18:46.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and whether they've repented or not.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:46.33,0:18:49.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's not even on his radar.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:49.87,0:18:51.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The conduct of that person -
Dialogue: 0,0:18:51.43,0:18:53.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he isn't thinking that.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:53.07,0:18:56.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Paul is concerned that we put on
Dialogue: 0,0:18:56.26,0:18:59.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an expression of the conduct of those
Dialogue: 0,0:18:59.90,0:19:03.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who are new men - no longer Gentiles.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:03.21,0:19:04.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The expression of those
Dialogue: 0,0:19:04.56,0:19:07.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who have learned of Christ.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:07.03,0:19:10.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What he's concerned with is the new man
Dialogue: 0,0:19:10.65,0:19:12.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's in the likeness of God.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:12.53,0:19:14.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what is God like?
Dialogue: 0,0:19:14.61,0:19:16.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,God is a forgiving God.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:16.57,0:19:18.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,God is rich in mercy.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:18.86,0:19:20.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We read that here in this epistle.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:20.84,0:19:22.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Rich in mercy because of the great love
Dialogue: 0,0:19:22.84,0:19:24.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with which He loved us."
Dialogue: 0,0:19:24.13,0:19:26.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mercy, grace.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:26.15,0:19:27.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the thing is,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:27.07,0:19:29.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we don't deserve any of it.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:29.93,0:19:32.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And yet He freely bestowed - \Nyes, we repented,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:32.38,0:19:33.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but that's not the issue.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:33.80,0:19:36.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The issue is you didn't \Ndeserve any of it at all.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:36.84,0:19:38.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the issue.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:38.98,0:19:44.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Notice, the companions here.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:44.31,0:19:47.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not that he's pointing out:
Dialogue: 0,0:19:47.92,0:19:49.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you need to be discerning
Dialogue: 0,0:19:49.86,0:19:52.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as to who's repented or not.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:52.05,0:19:55.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That isn't the companions \Nof forgiveness here.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:55.41,0:19:58.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The companions are kindness
Dialogue: 0,0:19:58.01,0:20:01.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and tenderheartedness.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:01.37,0:20:03.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you see what the issue is?
Dialogue: 0,0:20:03.87,0:20:12.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's not concerned about the conditions.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:12.82,0:20:15.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's not concerned about the shape
Dialogue: 0,0:20:15.60,0:20:18.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the person that has offended us.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:18.31,0:20:21.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's concerned about \Nwhat's coming out of us.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:21.68,0:20:24.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's concerned about what that looks like.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:24.40,0:20:26.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Kindness, tenderheartedness.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:26.97,0:20:29.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These are the companions of forgiveness.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:29.57,0:20:34.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just as the companion \Nof bitterness is what?
Dialogue: 0,0:20:34.07,0:20:35.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's wrath.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:35.32,0:20:37.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's anger. It's being hateful.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:37.34,0:20:38.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's being unforgiving.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:38.98,0:20:40.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Bitterness.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:40.42,0:20:42.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is bitterness?
Dialogue: 0,0:20:42.36,0:20:43.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know bitter people -
Dialogue: 0,0:20:43.84,0:20:46.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doesn't the word "sour"?
Dialogue: 0,0:20:46.22,0:20:49.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just sour people.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:49.74,0:20:51.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're bitter.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:51.49,0:20:53.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're unloving. They're unkind.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:53.39,0:20:55.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They never find good in anything.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:55.19,0:20:59.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They just seem to relish holding a grudge.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:59.61,0:21:01.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, sometimes it's amazing,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:01.14,0:21:02.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you sit down with some people,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:02.59,0:21:06.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they will bring up \Nsomething from the past -
Dialogue: 0,0:21:06.60,0:21:08.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it could have happened years ago -
Dialogue: 0,0:21:08.34,0:21:10.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like it happened yesterday.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:10.68,0:21:13.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just not forgiving, never forgetting.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:13.100,0:21:16.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then slanderous.\NThat's a companion there too.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:16.57,0:21:19.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because they just can't \Nspeak well of people.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:19.80,0:21:22.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the idea.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:22.37,0:21:24.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But that's not the way \Nwe've learned Christ.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:24.91,0:21:29.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is what it is to still walk
Dialogue: 0,0:21:29.63,0:21:31.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as the Gentiles do
Dialogue: 0,0:21:31.78,0:21:34.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in all that bitterness and ugliness.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:34.56,0:21:37.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see, that's what \Nit is to be the old man.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:37.35,0:21:40.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When Paul's unwrapping all of this,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:40.53,0:21:42.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he's not even interested in the terms
Dialogue: 0,0:21:42.68,0:21:43.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of repentance.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:43.92,0:21:49.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's interested in a God-likeness
Dialogue: 0,0:21:49.22,0:21:53.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being reflected by us.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:53.25,0:21:55.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A tenderness, a kindness,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:55.57,0:21:58.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a disposition to forgive.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:58.22,0:22:00.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The renewing of the mind -
Dialogue: 0,0:22:00.26,0:22:02.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we saw that there - verse 23.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:02.11,0:22:05.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Be renewed in the spirit of your minds."
Dialogue: 0,0:22:05.54,0:22:08.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see, is this not the issue
Dialogue: 0,0:22:08.12,0:22:10.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,behind forgiveness?
Dialogue: 0,0:22:10.16,0:22:12.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's that there's a change in the mind.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:12.05,0:22:13.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we might go over there -
Dialogue: 0,0:22:13.52,0:22:15.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're not going to take \Nthe time right now -
Dialogue: 0,0:22:15.05,0:22:16.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we might go to that extended parable
Dialogue: 0,0:22:16.99,0:22:18.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there in Matthew 18
Dialogue: 0,0:22:18.45,0:22:20.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it just gives such the mindset.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:20.73,0:22:22.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What happens?
Dialogue: 0,0:22:22.12,0:22:26.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm saved! I freely forgive!
Dialogue: 0,0:22:26.40,0:22:27.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why?
Dialogue: 0,0:22:27.94,0:22:29.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, yes, I'm changed.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:29.47,0:22:30.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, I'm a new man.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:30.68,0:22:32.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, I'm no longer a Gentile.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:32.31,0:22:35.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I'm renewed in the spirit of my mind.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:35.06,0:22:36.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In my mind!
Dialogue: 0,0:22:36.41,0:22:41.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Something has happened in my thinking.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:41.55,0:22:44.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Look, it's not that I don't realize
Dialogue: 0,0:22:44.12,0:22:45.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that there are people who have
Dialogue: 0,0:22:45.59,0:22:47.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sinned against me or offended me.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:47.89,0:22:50.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But you know what you begin to realize?
Dialogue: 0,0:22:50.01,0:22:51.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've offended other people
Dialogue: 0,0:22:51.64,0:22:53.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I've sinned against other people,
Dialogue: 0,0:22:53.46,0:22:55.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but more than that, \NI have sinned against God
Dialogue: 0,0:22:55.61,0:22:57.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I have done such things
Dialogue: 0,0:22:57.02,0:22:59.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to despise His glory.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:59.46,0:23:01.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I realize how kind He's been to me
Dialogue: 0,0:23:01.79,0:23:03.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when I did not deserve it,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:03.75,0:23:07.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to be gripped by the fact
Dialogue: 0,0:23:07.33,0:23:10.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of what God has done for \Nyou if you're a Christian!
Dialogue: 0,0:23:10.03,0:23:12.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, that's the thing.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:12.03,0:23:14.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How can you hold a grudge?
Dialogue: 0,0:23:14.42,0:23:16.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How can you be bitter
Dialogue: 0,0:23:16.08,0:23:17.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when all you have to do
Dialogue: 0,0:23:17.66,0:23:19.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is look at yourself in the mirror
Dialogue: 0,0:23:19.49,0:23:21.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and recognize...
Dialogue: 0,0:23:21.37,0:23:25.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, just start to list your crimes
Dialogue: 0,0:23:25.14,0:23:29.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and imagine people that have done
Dialogue: 0,0:23:29.79,0:23:31.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,half your crimes
Dialogue: 0,0:23:31.71,0:23:36.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they've been in hell...
Dialogue: 0,0:23:36.42,0:23:40.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You've sinned against light
Dialogue: 0,0:23:40.44,0:23:44.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that people back killed in the flood,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:44.01,0:23:45.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they never had.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:45.44,0:23:47.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if it's going to be more tolerable
Dialogue: 0,0:23:47.47,0:23:50.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for people in Sodom and Gomorrah
Dialogue: 0,0:23:50.73,0:23:53.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than for people in this \Nage who've heard that,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:53.15,0:23:54.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know what it tells me?
Dialogue: 0,0:23:54.50,0:23:56.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It tells me that there are people
Dialogue: 0,0:23:56.08,0:23:57.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who died in that flood
Dialogue: 0,0:23:57.14,0:24:02.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that are far less guilty because \Nthey had far less light than you.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:02.36,0:24:07.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They've been in hell for millennia
Dialogue: 0,0:24:07.62,0:24:13.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,suffering, weeping, wailing - and justly,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:13.27,0:24:14.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because their crimes demanded it.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:14.85,0:24:17.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You look at God.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:17.09,0:24:20.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Remember back to chapter 2.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:20.07,0:24:22.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"While you were still dead
Dialogue: 0,0:24:22.87,0:24:25.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in your trespasses," what happened?
Dialogue: 0,0:24:25.48,0:24:27.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,God had mercy because of His great love
Dialogue: 0,0:24:27.66,0:24:29.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with which He loved you.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:29.18,0:24:31.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He made you alive in Christ
Dialogue: 0,0:24:31.41,0:24:33.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even when you were \Ndead in your trespasses.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:33.64,0:24:36.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Remember what God did for you \Nwhen you were unrepentant.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:36.42,0:24:37.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What happened?
Dialogue: 0,0:24:37.43,0:24:39.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you were yet sinners, \NChrist died for you.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:39.74,0:24:43.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Unrepentant - before your repentance.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:43.26,0:24:45.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Remember, God grants repentance
Dialogue: 0,0:24:45.87,0:24:46.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the Gentiles.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:46.100,0:24:48.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Have you ever read that?
Dialogue: 0,0:24:48.59,0:24:50.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just think about how God is moving,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:50.60,0:24:52.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what God is doing.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:52.26,0:24:56.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We love Him because He first loved us.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:56.20,0:24:58.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You just have to stop sometimes and think.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:58.89,0:25:01.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Be blown away by what God has done for you
Dialogue: 0,0:25:01.76,0:25:04.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because if you have that change of mind;
Dialogue: 0,0:25:04.40,0:25:05.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if that goes on;
Dialogue: 0,0:25:05.41,0:25:06.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if that's the renewing of mind
Dialogue: 0,0:25:06.93,0:25:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where you're grateful and you're thankful,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:09.00,0:25:10.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how can you look at somebody else
Dialogue: 0,0:25:10.71,0:25:13.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who's committed so much less?
Dialogue: 0,0:25:13.13,0:25:15.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Isn't that the parable \Nthere in Matthew 18?
Dialogue: 0,0:25:15.76,0:25:21.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My debt was huge!
Dialogue: 0,0:25:21.20,0:25:23.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It makes it really difficult.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:23.57,0:25:28.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the issue in all of this.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:28.10,0:25:32.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All the undeserved love and sacrifice -
Dialogue: 0,0:25:32.28,0:25:42.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He spared not His only Son!
Dialogue: 0,0:25:42.53,0:25:45.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you get gripped by this reality
Dialogue: 0,0:25:45.87,0:25:49.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're suddenly freed from \Nthe power of bitterness.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:49.44,0:25:55.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You show me a bitter Christian,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:55.16,0:25:56.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a bitter and unforgiving Christian,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:56.98,0:25:58.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'm going to show you somebody
Dialogue: 0,0:25:58.66,0:26:02.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is deceived.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:02.52,0:26:04.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're not a Christian.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:04.26,0:26:07.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can say that on biblical grounds.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:07.96,0:26:12.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're not a Christian.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:12.87,0:26:16.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see, it's in this way
Dialogue: 0,0:26:16.09,0:26:18.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that God just sets us free
Dialogue: 0,0:26:18.68,0:26:21.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be kind to those who don't deserve.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:21.67,0:26:23.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you recognize this?
Dialogue: 0,0:26:23.08,0:26:26.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When somebody sins against you,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:26.06,0:26:30.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that sin is a capital offense before God.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:30.71,0:26:34.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They don't deserve to be pardoned.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:34.50,0:26:38.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They deserve to be damned.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:38.31,0:26:40.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But when you forgive them,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:40.12,0:26:42.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're being God-like.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:42.23,0:26:44.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the issue. That's the issue.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:44.51,0:26:46.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not terms of forgiveness.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:46.91,0:26:51.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's the fact that you're forgiving those
Dialogue: 0,0:26:51.43,0:26:53.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who don't deserve your forgiveness.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:53.83,0:26:55.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're pardoning those
Dialogue: 0,0:26:55.22,0:26:57.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who don't in any way deserve it.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:57.75,0:26:59.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just like you didn't deserve it.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:59.34,0:27:01.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,See, that's the issue.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:01.29,0:27:05.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what we really need to focus on.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:05.74,0:27:09.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You get people - I know there are people
Dialogue: 0,0:27:09.19,0:27:14.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who have been horribly wounded by others.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:14.72,0:27:19.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But we're able to forgive those things.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:19.14,0:27:21.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They don't deserve to be forgiven.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:21.26,0:27:26.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why? Because God has forgiven you.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:26.25,0:27:29.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's forgiven me.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:29.23,0:27:32.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Paul doesn't even remotely have in mind
Dialogue: 0,0:27:32.68,0:27:34.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,terms of forgiveness.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:34.20,0:27:35.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's not it.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:35.42,0:27:37.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is all about your attitude,
Dialogue: 0,0:27:37.11,0:27:40.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about your disposition as a new man
Dialogue: 0,0:27:40.26,0:27:42.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,forgiving out of love, kindness,
Dialogue: 0,0:27:42.97,0:27:46.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tenderness towards others.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:46.49,0:27:50.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, okay, you might say,
Dialogue: 0,0:27:50.51,0:27:53.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,okay, brother, we see that.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:53.25,0:27:55.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is the contrast.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:55.46,0:27:57.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Contrasts are opposites.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:57.39,0:28:03.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The opposite to forgiving as God forgives
Dialogue: 0,0:28:03.77,0:28:06.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is bitterness.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:06.07,0:28:07.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's wrath, it's anger,
Dialogue: 0,0:28:07.46,0:28:10.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's obviously unforgiveness.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:10.32,0:28:11.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the issue.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:11.34,0:28:13.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The opposite Paul was bringing out
Dialogue: 0,0:28:13.89,0:28:16.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is not: you're not of a discerning spirit
Dialogue: 0,0:28:16.99,0:28:19.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you need to figure out \Nwho's repentant and who's not
Dialogue: 0,0:28:19.67,0:28:21.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and only forgive the repentant.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:21.14,0:28:23.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's not the issue.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:23.30,0:28:29.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But you say, okay, even if Ephesians 4:32
Dialogue: 0,0:28:29.01,0:28:32.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,isn't specifically saying that,
Dialogue: 0,0:28:32.43,0:28:36.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you haven't really proven that
Dialogue: 0,0:28:36.57,0:28:38.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that nevertheless is the case
Dialogue: 0,0:28:38.31,0:28:40.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because maybe it's taught somewhere else.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:40.58,0:28:44.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I would say, that's right.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:44.17,0:28:46.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's right, but because this
Dialogue: 0,0:28:46.67,0:28:51.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is a foundational text to \Nholding that position,
Dialogue: 0,0:28:51.26,0:28:53.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wanted to show you that
Dialogue: 0,0:28:53.20,0:28:55.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's not what it's teaching.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:55.11,0:28:57.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But here's what I want to show you next.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:57.98,0:29:05.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you possess this heart of the new man,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:05.66,0:29:08.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this God-likeness,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:08.94,0:29:11.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,true righteousness and holiness,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:11.26,0:29:13.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if this characterizes you,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:13.40,0:29:17.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're one who's learned of Christ.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:17.87,0:29:21.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is going to manifest itself
Dialogue: 0,0:29:21.83,0:29:24.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in at least three ways
Dialogue: 0,0:29:24.02,0:29:26.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I want to show you from Scripture,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:26.70,0:29:32.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I think just destroys \Nthis whole mindset.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:32.26,0:29:39.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The first one, brethren, is 1 Peter 4:8.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:39.04,0:29:40.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you need to turn there,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:40.59,0:29:42.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you need to see this.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:42.36,0:29:51.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Love covers a multitude of sin."
Dialogue: 0,0:29:51.66,0:29:58.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, if you look \Nat the text in Scripture
Dialogue: 0,0:29:58.22,0:30:00.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like Craig looked at this morning,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:00.48,0:30:05.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that give like this "above all,"
Dialogue: 0,0:30:05.60,0:30:10.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or, you've got that word here.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:10.03,0:30:11.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Love.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:11.91,0:30:16.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's lots of Scriptures \Nin the New Testament -
Dialogue: 0,0:30:16.27,0:30:19.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is the pinnacle; this is the sum
Dialogue: 0,0:30:19.70,0:30:26.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of what it means to reflect Christ.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:26.100,0:30:33.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Above all, keep loving \None another earnestly
Dialogue: 0,0:30:33.36,0:30:35.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,since love covers a multitude of sins."
Dialogue: 0,0:30:35.95,0:30:39.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, if you take that text -
Dialogue: 0,0:30:39.83,0:30:42.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,before I say what I'm going to say -
Dialogue: 0,0:30:42.84,0:30:44.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,let me just point something out.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:44.44,0:30:50.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The word "cover" - that \Nis a synonym for forgive.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:50.59,0:30:53.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you say, hey, I'm not buying it.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:53.73,0:30:56.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The word forgive isn't here.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:56.37,0:30:59.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't think "cover" \Nmeans the same thing.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:59.46,0:31:01.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What does "cover" mean?
Dialogue: 0,0:31:01.16,0:31:07.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Cover basically means to hide or to bury.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:07.06,0:31:10.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Scripture definitely uses
Dialogue: 0,0:31:10.13,0:31:14.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these two terms side by side
Dialogue: 0,0:31:14.46,0:31:17.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to express the forgiveness of sins.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:17.41,0:31:19.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we can look at different places,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:19.47,0:31:22.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the classic text would be this one.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:22.18,0:31:24.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't need to turn \Nthere, but listen to it.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:24.64,0:31:25.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Psalm 32:1,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:25.82,0:31:28.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Blessed is the one
Dialogue: 0,0:31:28.53,0:31:31.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whose transgression is forgiven,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:31.50,0:31:33.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whose sin is covered."
Dialogue: 0,0:31:33.87,0:31:37.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is a Hebrew parallelism
Dialogue: 0,0:31:37.06,0:31:40.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where you basically have the same thing
Dialogue: 0,0:31:40.47,0:31:44.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stated back-to-back in different terms.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:44.97,0:31:48.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Covering sin is the same \Nthing as forgiving sin.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:48.82,0:31:51.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Covering sin is at the \Nheart of what it means.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:51.63,0:31:54.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's the essence of what forgiveness is.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:54.43,0:31:56.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's to cover it over.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:56.27,0:31:58.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's to bury it. It's to hide it.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:58.89,0:32:04.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the idea.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:04.19,0:32:07.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I want to show you is this,
Dialogue: 0,0:32:07.37,0:32:13.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Above all, keep loving \None another earnestly."
Dialogue: 0,0:32:13.54,0:32:15.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you see, here's the thing.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:15.23,0:32:19.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here's what Peter sees.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:19.18,0:32:23.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As the love increases,
Dialogue: 0,0:32:23.32,0:32:28.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that church's ability \Nto cover sin increases.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:28.01,0:32:30.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Earnestly. Be earnest. Why?
Dialogue: 0,0:32:30.10,0:32:32.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because where there's much love,
Dialogue: 0,0:32:32.07,0:32:34.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's much covering.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:34.34,0:32:37.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where there's lovelessness,
Dialogue: 0,0:32:37.19,0:32:38.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people become suspicious,
Dialogue: 0,0:32:38.64,0:32:40.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they become critical,
Dialogue: 0,0:32:40.50,0:32:41.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's criticism.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:41.55,0:32:44.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They put the worst spin on things.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:44.78,0:32:46.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what happens.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:46.56,0:32:50.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's like, if for no other reason,
Dialogue: 0,0:32:50.18,0:32:55.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Peter goes right to this point that love
Dialogue: 0,0:32:55.96,0:32:57.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is going to produce that kind of fruit.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:57.95,0:33:02.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's going to produce that kind of
Dialogue: 0,0:33:02.95,0:33:04.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,looking past small offenses
Dialogue: 0,0:33:04.95,0:33:07.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and maybe even some larger ones.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:07.17,0:33:08.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lovelessness. Lovelessness.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:08.66,0:33:11.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What happens then?\NPeople are easily provoked.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:11.85,0:33:14.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, we talk about \Nbeing thin-skinned.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:14.23,0:33:16.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thin-skinned churches
Dialogue: 0,0:33:16.44,0:33:20.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where people - it takes very little
Dialogue: 0,0:33:20.06,0:33:23.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to provoke somebody.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:23.19,0:33:30.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're always easily offended.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:30.23,0:33:32.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Always magnifying the wrongs
Dialogue: 0,0:33:32.51,0:33:38.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,committed against us.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:38.08,0:33:40.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But love...
Dialogue: 0,0:33:40.17,0:33:42.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where love abounds,
Dialogue: 0,0:33:42.84,0:33:45.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,love is going to look past.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:45.90,0:33:47.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Love is going to cover over.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:47.67,0:33:52.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Love covers a multitude of sins.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:52.10,0:33:55.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Many of the small and even \Nsome of the larger ones,
Dialogue: 0,0:33:55.35,0:33:56.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they're readily overlooked.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:56.82,0:33:58.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're readily forgotten.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:58.08,0:34:00.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The New American Standard -
Dialogue: 0,0:34:00.40,0:34:02.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Craig quoted this earlier -
Dialogue: 0,0:34:02.22,0:34:05.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but 1 Corinthians 13:5 (don't turn there),
Dialogue: 0,0:34:05.16,0:34:07.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the New American \NStandard says it this way:
Dialogue: 0,0:34:07.56,0:34:09.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Love does not take into account
Dialogue: 0,0:34:09.62,0:34:12.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a wrong suffered."
Dialogue: 0,0:34:12.22,0:34:14.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The ESV says "resentful."
Dialogue: 0,0:34:14.20,0:34:17.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The old King James says, \N"thinketh no evil."
Dialogue: 0,0:34:17.23,0:34:20.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it's the idea of imputing evil.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:20.82,0:34:23.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see, where there's no love,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:23.54,0:34:25.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people read things as evil.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:25.81,0:34:27.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They put that spin on it.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:27.21,0:34:30.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Oh, you know why they did that."
Dialogue: 0,0:34:30.53,0:34:32.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I'm offended."
Dialogue: 0,0:34:32.12,0:34:33.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's always this suspicion,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:33.69,0:34:36.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,looking at people through those lenses.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:36.48,0:34:38.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But where love is there,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:38.08,0:34:40.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's like I love that brother.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:40.65,0:34:43.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's like John MacArthur says.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:43.17,0:34:44.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He just views people based on
Dialogue: 0,0:34:44.68,0:34:46.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what they're going to become
Dialogue: 0,0:34:46.18,0:34:48.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what they'll be in Heaven.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:48.63,0:34:51.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That helps him.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:51.81,0:34:55.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now look, I know that there's
Dialogue: 0,0:34:55.70,0:35:01.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,two classic exceptions to this.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:01.55,0:35:03.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's two places in Scripture
Dialogue: 0,0:35:03.89,0:35:05.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that clearly indicate
Dialogue: 0,0:35:05.83,0:35:11.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that it's impossible to \Ngive a full expression
Dialogue: 0,0:35:11.15,0:35:13.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of forgiveness unless there is a full,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:13.88,0:35:16.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,two-way transaction
Dialogue: 0,0:35:16.08,0:35:19.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the forgiveness process.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:19.56,0:35:21.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's those cases spelled out
Dialogue: 0,0:35:21.56,0:35:23.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Luke 17 and Matthew 18.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:23.85,0:35:27.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now again, don't turn there please.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:27.46,0:35:30.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it's those texts that basically,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:30.86,0:35:32.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and here's the thing,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:32.92,0:35:36.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you look at Luke 17.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:36.81,0:35:38.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let me read it to you. Don't turn there.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:38.82,0:35:42.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Luke 17 says this, \N"Pay attention to yourselves.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:42.04,0:35:44.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If your brother sins, rebuke him.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:44.27,0:35:46.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If he repents..." there's repentance.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:46.92,0:35:48.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"If he repents..." that's conditional.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:48.82,0:35:49.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"...forgive him.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:49.99,0:35:52.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If he sins against you \Nseven times in the day,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:52.23,0:35:54.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,turns to you seven \Ntimes saying, 'I repent,'
Dialogue: 0,0:35:54.38,0:35:55.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you must forgive him."
Dialogue: 0,0:35:55.52,0:35:57.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, the interesting thing is if you
Dialogue: 0,0:35:57.25,0:35:58.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,look at the context of that,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:58.79,0:36:01.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is basically Luke's account
Dialogue: 0,0:36:01.63,0:36:03.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of what you find in Matthew 18
Dialogue: 0,0:36:03.99,0:36:06.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where you get the fuller expression.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:06.72,0:36:08.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"If your brother sins against you,
Dialogue: 0,0:36:08.54,0:36:10.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,go and tell him his fault
Dialogue: 0,0:36:10.04,0:36:11.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between you and him alone.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:11.34,0:36:12.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If he listens to you..."
Dialogue: 0,0:36:12.76,0:36:14.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, the word repentance isn't used there,
Dialogue: 0,0:36:14.89,0:36:18.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but if he listens to you - \Nit's the same idea.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:18.10,0:36:19.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"...You've gained your brother,
Dialogue: 0,0:36:19.93,0:36:22.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but if he does not listen..." \Nand it goes on.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:22.82,0:36:27.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So obviously there repentance is mandatory
Dialogue: 0,0:36:27.37,0:36:34.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or you actually put the \Nperson out of the church.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:34.37,0:36:37.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But here's the thing,
Dialogue: 0,0:36:37.44,0:36:41.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that approach is clearly
Dialogue: 0,0:36:41.85,0:36:45.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from what Peter is teaching us
Dialogue: 0,0:36:45.03,0:36:50.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not the way to deal with everything.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:50.61,0:36:52.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are times when forgiveness
Dialogue: 0,0:36:52.47,0:36:58.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,should be the unconditional \Nresponse of love.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:58.74,0:37:00.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is what Peter is teaching us.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:00.84,0:37:03.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Are there times when something \Nis aggravated enough
Dialogue: 0,0:37:03.56,0:37:07.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or are there times when somebody's \Nsin is hurting other people
Dialogue: 0,0:37:07.03,0:37:09.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we need, out of love for them,
Dialogue: 0,0:37:09.96,0:37:11.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out of love for the whole church,
Dialogue: 0,0:37:11.58,0:37:13.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out of the love for the church
Dialogue: 0,0:37:13.09,0:37:15.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and not allowing leaven to \Nleaven the whole lump,
Dialogue: 0,0:37:15.47,0:37:17.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are there times when love demands
Dialogue: 0,0:37:17.78,0:37:20.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we do pursue the sin? Absolutely.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:20.81,0:37:22.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Are there times that love demands
Dialogue: 0,0:37:22.78,0:37:25.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we do pursue repentance? Absolutely.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:25.90,0:37:29.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But what Peter is teaching us
Dialogue: 0,0:37:29.30,0:37:33.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that love will often
Dialogue: 0,0:37:33.88,0:37:39.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,manifest itself exactly like this
Dialogue: 0,0:37:39.27,0:37:43.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where forgiveness is rendered to people
Dialogue: 0,0:37:43.04,0:37:44.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as an unconditional response of love.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:44.86,0:37:46.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which is much to say that there are
Dialogue: 0,0:37:46.55,0:37:49.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,many times where we are \Ngoing to deal with sin
Dialogue: 0,0:37:49.83,0:37:53.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,simply by covering it over
Dialogue: 0,0:37:53.42,0:37:55.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and sweeping it under the rug.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:55.80,0:37:57.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what he's teaching.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:57.26,0:37:59.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You say, "(Gasp!) We can't do that!"
Dialogue: 0,0:37:59.18,0:38:01.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's not the way God does it.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:01.29,0:38:05.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well see, if you put that \Nmeaning on forgiveness
Dialogue: 0,0:38:05.14,0:38:07.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then you come to that conclusion.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:07.96,0:38:09.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But again, I want to emphasize,
Dialogue: 0,0:38:09.47,0:38:13.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the heart of this is kindness
Dialogue: 0,0:38:13.31,0:38:15.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's tenderness.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:15.29,0:38:16.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when you have a church
Dialogue: 0,0:38:16.55,0:38:19.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,full of those kinds of people...
Dialogue: 0,0:38:19.68,0:38:21.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,let me just ask you.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:21.25,0:38:25.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How do you want to be treated?
Dialogue: 0,0:38:25.86,0:38:28.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you want to be in a church
Dialogue: 0,0:38:28.64,0:38:33.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where every single offense,
Dialogue: 0,0:38:33.25,0:38:34.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,somebody's right there?
Dialogue: 0,0:38:34.42,0:38:37.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's grounds for confrontation!
Dialogue: 0,0:38:37.50,0:38:40.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Matthew 18! Did you see him?
Dialogue: 0,0:38:40.27,0:38:44.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He didn't say hi! Confront him!
Dialogue: 0,0:38:44.00,0:38:45.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He wasn't loving!
Dialogue: 0,0:38:45.50,0:38:47.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That wasn't loving!
Dialogue: 0,0:38:47.84,0:38:52.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He wasn't smiling!
Dialogue: 0,0:38:52.74,0:38:54.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Have you ever been around people
Dialogue: 0,0:38:54.75,0:38:59.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that want to attack you for everything?
Dialogue: 0,0:38:59.66,0:39:02.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't want to be \Nin a church like that.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:02.98,0:39:04.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(incomplete thought)
Dialogue: 0,0:39:04.74,0:39:06.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know what it is to be around people
Dialogue: 0,0:39:06.85,0:39:08.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that are kind and tenderhearted
Dialogue: 0,0:39:08.61,0:39:14.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how they deal with your rough edges
Dialogue: 0,0:39:14.18,0:39:17.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and inconsiderateness and impoliteness
Dialogue: 0,0:39:17.56,0:39:20.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and immaturities and the too often,
Dialogue: 0,0:39:20.52,0:39:26.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,frequent, petty infractions... right?
Dialogue: 0,0:39:26.64,0:39:29.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're not a perfect people.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:29.23,0:39:32.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we come in here with \Nall of our rough edges.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:32.84,0:39:34.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you want somebody right there?
Dialogue: 0,0:39:34.54,0:39:37.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Matthew 18! Matthew 18! I saw it!"
Dialogue: 0,0:39:37.99,0:39:39.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, you don't want to be in that.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:39.81,0:39:41.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But you do want to be in a church
Dialogue: 0,0:39:41.53,0:39:44.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where if sin has a grip on you in a way
Dialogue: 0,0:39:44.08,0:39:46.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's harming the church or harming you,
Dialogue: 0,0:39:46.24,0:39:51.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you want somebody to deal with it.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:51.11,0:39:52.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If it's the kind of leaven
Dialogue: 0,0:39:52.62,0:39:54.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's really destructive to the church,
Dialogue: 0,0:39:54.90,0:39:57.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then out of love for all the church,
Dialogue: 0,0:39:57.41,0:40:00.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we definitely want to deal with it.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:00.45,0:40:04.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, there's just a feel.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:04.56,0:40:06.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like Paul said to the Corinthians.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:06.64,0:40:09.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it has somewhat \Nof the feel of this.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:09.67,0:40:13.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You had Christians that \Nwere suing each other.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:13.32,0:40:18.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said it's better to be wronged.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:18.08,0:40:19.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In other words, you would do better
Dialogue: 0,0:40:19.91,0:40:22.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to drop the court case \Nagainst your brother.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:22.34,0:40:24.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just accept being wronged. Let it go.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:24.60,0:40:27.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Forgive and go on your way.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:27.19,0:40:30.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Better to be defrauded \Nthan do what you're doing.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:30.72,0:40:38.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that has something \Nof the spirit of that.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:38.65,0:40:40.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that's the first thing.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:40.18,0:40:42.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Brethren, you can't get away from it.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:42.41,0:40:45.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You cannot get away from it
Dialogue: 0,0:40:45.100,0:40:49.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that Peter is teaching
Dialogue: 0,0:40:49.40,0:40:52.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that there are many sins
Dialogue: 0,0:40:52.55,0:40:58.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that love covers without any condition
Dialogue: 0,0:40:58.88,0:41:01.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the part of the offender.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:01.07,0:41:03.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is the reality.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:03.57,0:41:06.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He sees the church, in fact,
Dialogue: 0,0:41:06.59,0:41:10.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the higher the love is,
Dialogue: 0,0:41:10.40,0:41:13.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the more we are going to
Dialogue: 0,0:41:13.23,0:41:16.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,unilaterally, unconditionally,
Dialogue: 0,0:41:16.22,0:41:19.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without requiring \Nrepentance of the individual
Dialogue: 0,0:41:19.46,0:41:21.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going to sweep it under the rug.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:21.47,0:41:23.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what he sees and that's why
Dialogue: 0,0:41:23.34,0:41:29.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he wants that kind of fervent love here.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:29.34,0:41:32.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's not looking for a holy church.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:32.86,0:41:34.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's not the issue.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:34.41,0:41:36.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The issue is kindness,
Dialogue: 0,0:41:36.92,0:41:40.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tenderness, forgiving.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:40.43,0:41:46.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is entirely the opposite of unholy.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:46.01,0:41:48.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But here's the next thing.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:48.34,0:41:49.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here's the next thing
Dialogue: 0,0:41:49.65,0:41:53.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the spirit that Paul \Nis wanting us to reflect
Dialogue: 0,0:41:53.77,0:41:55.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the new man,
Dialogue: 0,0:41:55.15,0:41:57.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,here's another way \Nthat it manifests itself.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:57.86,0:42:03.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It manifests itself in our prayer life.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:03.99,0:42:08.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every place where Jesus talks
Dialogue: 0,0:42:08.32,0:42:12.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about forgiving when we pray -
Dialogue: 0,0:42:12.55,0:42:14.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,unconditional.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:14.52,0:42:15.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I want you to see it.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:15.85,0:42:17.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,First one, Sermon on the Mount.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:17.64,0:42:19.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Go to Matthew 6.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:19.67,0:42:26.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I do want you to turn to these.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:26.14,0:42:28.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here is another \Nmanifestation of the new man
Dialogue: 0,0:42:28.97,0:42:31.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who's robed with kindness
Dialogue: 0,0:42:31.67,0:42:33.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and tenderness and forgiveness.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:33.69,0:42:38.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,His prayer life is a constant witness
Dialogue: 0,0:42:38.08,0:42:40.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to his forgiving spirit.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:40.84,0:42:44.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you don't know about this,
Dialogue: 0,0:42:44.29,0:42:46.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to challenge you.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:46.28,0:42:48.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Obviously, Jesus is not giving us
Dialogue: 0,0:42:48.75,0:42:50.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in any of these accounts
Dialogue: 0,0:42:50.59,0:42:53.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an exact formula for how we should pray.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:53.10,0:42:54.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When He says, "pray like this:
Dialogue: 0,0:42:54.67,0:42:56.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Our Father Who art in Heaven,
Dialogue: 0,0:42:56.09,0:42:57.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hallowed be Thy name..."
Dialogue: 0,0:42:57.33,0:42:59.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He certainly isn't saying that you
Dialogue: 0,0:42:59.03,0:43:01.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,need to articulate that verbatim.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:01.47,0:43:02.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When He says pray like this,
Dialogue: 0,0:43:02.95,0:43:05.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's meaning capture the essence
Dialogue: 0,0:43:05.48,0:43:07.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of His prayer.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:07.54,0:43:09.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Those should be areas of emphasis
Dialogue: 0,0:43:09.93,0:43:12.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in your own prayer life.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:12.30,0:43:15.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Matthew 6:9,
Dialogue: 0,0:43:15.26,0:43:18.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Pray then like this,
Dialogue: 0,0:43:18.36,0:43:21.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Our Father in Heaven,\Nhallowed be Your name.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:21.80,0:43:23.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Your kingdom come,\NYour will be done
Dialogue: 0,0:43:23.88,0:43:25.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on earth as it is in Heaven.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:25.38,0:43:27.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Give us this day our daily bread...'"
Dialogue: 0,0:43:27.24,0:43:28.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now notice this.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:28.74,0:43:30.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It doesn't speak of transgressions.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:30.46,0:43:33.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It doesn't speak of sins specifically,
Dialogue: 0,0:43:33.22,0:43:37.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the idea here is our debts.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:37.28,0:43:40.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Forgive us our debts
Dialogue: 0,0:43:40.21,0:43:43.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as we also have forgiven our debtors."
Dialogue: 0,0:43:43.46,0:43:45.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now if you define a debtor,
Dialogue: 0,0:43:45.51,0:43:48.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what is a debtor?
Dialogue: 0,0:43:48.70,0:43:51.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Somebody who owes you something.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:51.28,0:43:52.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They owe.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:52.53,0:43:56.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the idea behind a debtor.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:56.04,0:43:58.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The idea here is you have debtors,
Dialogue: 0,0:43:58.21,0:43:59.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which means what?
Dialogue: 0,0:43:59.70,0:44:01.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When somebody sins against you,
Dialogue: 0,0:44:01.26,0:44:03.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they owe you something.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:03.47,0:44:05.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the issue of hell.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:05.98,0:44:09.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see, this is the problem with sin.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:09.15,0:44:12.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We incur a debt with God
Dialogue: 0,0:44:12.37,0:44:14.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we just simply can't pay.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:14.45,0:44:18.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Jesus paid it. All of it.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:18.57,0:44:20.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But here's the idea,
Dialogue: 0,0:44:20.12,0:44:24.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this says "our debtors."
Dialogue: 0,0:44:24.70,0:44:28.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's no distinguishing
Dialogue: 0,0:44:28.98,0:44:31.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or delineating between
Dialogue: 0,0:44:31.55,0:44:32.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the debtor who repents
Dialogue: 0,0:44:32.75,0:44:35.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the debtor who doesn't repent.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:35.44,0:44:40.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,None of that.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:40.78,0:44:43.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Lead us not into temptation,\Nbut deliver us from evil."
Dialogue: 0,0:44:43.69,0:44:47.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,V. 14, "For if you forgive \Nothers their trespasses,
Dialogue: 0,0:44:47.67,0:44:50.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your heavenly Father \Nwill also forgive you.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:50.38,0:44:53.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But if you do not forgive \Nothers their trespasses,
Dialogue: 0,0:44:53.03,0:44:55.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,neither will your Father \Nforgive your trespasses."
Dialogue: 0,0:44:55.95,0:44:58.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nothing to do with whether \Nthey've repented or not.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:58.51,0:45:00.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want you to see this \Nagain in Mark's Gospel.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:00.81,0:45:05.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mark 11:25.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:05.15,0:45:09.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because Mark and Luke bring this out
Dialogue: 0,0:45:09.15,0:45:13.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in especially helpful terms.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:13.79,0:45:16.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mark and Luke.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:16.66,0:45:24.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mark 11:25,
Dialogue: 0,0:45:24.35,0:45:29.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Whenever you stand praying, forgive
Dialogue: 0,0:45:29.25,0:45:38.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you have anything against anyone."
Dialogue: 0,0:45:38.99,0:45:41.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What are you going to say about that?
Dialogue: 0,0:45:41.24,0:45:47.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is entirely inclusive.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:47.81,0:45:50.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's no exceptions there.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:50.06,0:45:52.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"So that your Father \Nalso who is in Heaven
Dialogue: 0,0:45:52.28,0:45:53.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,may forgive you your trespasses."
Dialogue: 0,0:45:53.86,0:45:55.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now go over to Luke 11.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:55.42,0:45:57.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because we see it again.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:57.93,0:46:06.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And again we have this superlative.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:06.87,0:46:09.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, just a word \Nthat's all-encompassing.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:09.27,0:46:12.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's big. It's vast.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:12.90,0:46:14.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Luke 11:2, "He said to them,
Dialogue: 0,0:46:14.83,0:46:18.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when you pray, say,
Dialogue: 0,0:46:18.12,0:46:20.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Father, hallowed be Your name,
Dialogue: 0,0:46:20.21,0:46:21.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Your kindgom come.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:21.36,0:46:22.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Give us each day our daily bread
Dialogue: 0,0:46:22.94,0:46:25.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and forgive us our sins,
Dialogue: 0,0:46:25.92,0:46:28.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for we ourselves forgive
Dialogue: 0,0:46:28.20,0:46:32.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everyone who is indebted to us,
Dialogue: 0,0:46:32.07,0:46:35.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and lead us not into temptation...'"
Dialogue: 0,0:46:35.10,0:46:36.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here's the thing.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:36.88,0:46:39.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here's the thing about the new man
Dialogue: 0,0:46:39.04,0:46:42.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who's put on Christ;
Dialogue: 0,0:46:42.09,0:46:45.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who's being transformed more and more
Dialogue: 0,0:46:45.14,0:46:47.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into the likeness of God.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:47.76,0:46:51.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,True righteousness. True holiness.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:51.38,0:46:53.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He is able to go before God in prayer,
Dialogue: 0,0:46:53.80,0:46:56.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you can see, Jesus wants us
Dialogue: 0,0:46:56.82,0:47:05.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,talking to God about forgiveness.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:05.28,0:47:07.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now isn't that interesting?
Dialogue: 0,0:47:07.70,0:47:11.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let's just stop right there.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:11.01,0:47:14.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why?
Dialogue: 0,0:47:14.08,0:47:17.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is how a Christian is to pray.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:17.22,0:47:20.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why should I be asking \NGod for forgiveness?
Dialogue: 0,0:47:20.09,0:47:21.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let me ask you this.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:21.31,0:47:24.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you believe in the doctrine \Nof justification by faith?
Dialogue: 0,0:47:24.80,0:47:27.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you believe that the day \Nthat you first genuinely believed
Dialogue: 0,0:47:27.77,0:47:31.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that all your sins were washed away?
Dialogue: 0,0:47:31.54,0:47:36.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then why are you still \Npraying for forgiveness?
Dialogue: 0,0:47:36.18,0:47:37.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,However you answer that question,
Dialogue: 0,0:47:37.94,0:47:39.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,let me ask you something.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:39.34,0:47:47.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Has God already forgiven \Nyou before you repent?
Dialogue: 0,0:47:47.62,0:47:51.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm hoping so!
Dialogue: 0,0:47:51.20,0:47:54.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see, the argument even
Dialogue: 0,0:47:54.49,0:47:57.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,concerning God and how He forgives sin
Dialogue: 0,0:47:57.78,0:47:59.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doesn't really stand
Dialogue: 0,0:47:59.76,0:48:01.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because there's a myriad of examples
Dialogue: 0,0:48:01.82,0:48:07.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of God forgiving sinners of their sin
Dialogue: 0,0:48:07.96,0:48:11.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,before that sin was even committed.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:11.09,0:48:12.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, if we really believe
Dialogue: 0,0:48:12.52,0:48:14.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the doctrine of justification by faith,
Dialogue: 0,0:48:14.77,0:48:20.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we really believe that all \Nof our sins are pardoned,
Dialogue: 0,0:48:20.68,0:48:23.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at a previous time we're \Ndeclared righteous
Dialogue: 0,0:48:23.38,0:48:26.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the courtroom of God -
Dialogue: 0,0:48:26.36,0:48:28.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and yet, Jesus is teaching us
Dialogue: 0,0:48:28.70,0:48:32.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as Christians we should still be
Dialogue: 0,0:48:32.44,0:48:36.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,confessing our sins.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:36.26,0:48:39.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's part of being a Christian.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:39.58,0:48:42.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why? Well, if we do sin,
Dialogue: 0,0:48:42.08,0:48:44.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we have an Advocate with the Father,
Dialogue: 0,0:48:44.08,0:48:45.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jesus Christ the Righteous.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:45.57,0:48:49.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we confess our sins, He's \Nfaithful and just to forgive them.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:49.20,0:48:52.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is no question that in \Nour relationship with God
Dialogue: 0,0:48:52.42,0:48:54.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in an ongoing fashion,
Dialogue: 0,0:48:54.99,0:48:58.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's a place for bearing our souls
Dialogue: 0,0:48:58.84,0:49:01.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and confessing our sins to God.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:01.11,0:49:03.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What Jesus is teaching us
Dialogue: 0,0:49:03.54,0:49:06.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is when you do,
Dialogue: 0,0:49:06.74,0:49:10.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you should specifically refer
Dialogue: 0,0:49:10.41,0:49:14.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to how you forgive other people.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:14.56,0:49:16.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Isn't that clear from all of these texts?
Dialogue: 0,0:49:16.73,0:49:19.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He wants us mindful of that.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:19.65,0:49:24.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The reality is that the new man
Dialogue: 0,0:49:24.17,0:49:28.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who's convinced that God has saved him
Dialogue: 0,0:49:28.09,0:49:31.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of all these sins that he didn't \Ndeserve to be forgiven of,
Dialogue: 0,0:49:31.20,0:49:33.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he can go before God in his prayer life
Dialogue: 0,0:49:33.43,0:49:34.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he can look up
Dialogue: 0,0:49:34.86,0:49:37.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he can lookinto the very face of God,
Dialogue: 0,0:49:37.26,0:49:41.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he can say, "Father, forgive me,
Dialogue: 0,0:49:41.72,0:49:43.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I know I haven't been perfect.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:43.84,0:49:45.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know I haven't,
Dialogue: 0,0:49:45.05,0:49:47.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but forgive me as I forgive others."
Dialogue: 0,0:49:47.72,0:49:51.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And not just a put on like \NCraig was talking about.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:51.27,0:49:52.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This isn't just something you say.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:52.91,0:49:54.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This isn't just lip service.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:54.61,0:49:56.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This isn't some hypocritical statement
Dialogue: 0,0:49:56.85,0:49:59.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you lift up to God \Nand there's no reality in it.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:59.71,0:50:02.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't say it unless you mean it.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:02.01,0:50:05.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which means, you ought \Nto be able to do inventory
Dialogue: 0,0:50:05.05,0:50:08.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,every time you pray.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:08.20,0:50:12.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And ask yourself is there anybody -
Dialogue: 0,0:50:12.60,0:50:14.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do you do that?
Dialogue: 0,0:50:14.15,0:50:16.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I find that absolutely necessary.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:16.95,0:50:19.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want a clear way to the Lord.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:19.67,0:50:21.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's like I can't go to the Lord
Dialogue: 0,0:50:21.43,0:50:24.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if there's something on my conscience.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:24.09,0:50:29.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I consider that to be a prayer-stopper.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:29.70,0:50:32.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's more serious than that.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:32.02,0:50:34.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can tell from these texts.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:34.36,0:50:36.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I consider that to be a prayer-stopper
Dialogue: 0,0:50:36.45,0:50:38.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if there's any kind of bitterness,
Dialogue: 0,0:50:38.18,0:50:40.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,any kind of separation.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:40.28,0:50:43.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If I feel like I know \Nsomebody in the church
Dialogue: 0,0:50:43.60,0:50:45.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has this thing against me
Dialogue: 0,0:50:45.74,0:50:47.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I have not yet tried to resolve that -
Dialogue: 0,0:50:47.76,0:50:49.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's one thing if you try to resolve it
Dialogue: 0,0:50:49.66,0:50:51.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and as much as possible,
Dialogue: 0,0:50:51.01,0:50:53.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're seeking to be \Nat peace with all men
Dialogue: 0,0:50:53.54,0:50:55.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you've done what's \Npossible in your power.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:55.96,0:50:58.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's some things that \Nno matter how hard you try...
Dialogue: 0,0:50:58.72,0:51:01.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we ought to be able to say that.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:01.36,0:51:04.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even people who have never repented.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:04.02,0:51:07.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's like, Lord, I have forgiven them.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:07.65,0:51:09.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not holding anything.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:09.55,0:51:12.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know of any grudge \Nthat I have against anybody.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:12.31,0:51:13.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's no bitterness.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:13.56,0:51:14.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You want that!
Dialogue: 0,0:51:14.82,0:51:17.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's clearly what Jesus is saying.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:17.14,0:51:23.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Your prayer life.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:23.17,0:51:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you can see,
Dialogue: 0,0:51:26.00,0:51:27.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's not a word here
Dialogue: 0,0:51:27.89,0:51:29.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in any of these verses about repentance.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:29.95,0:51:31.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not the issue.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:31.22,0:51:38.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Forgiveness here - it doesn't come in.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:38.60,0:51:40.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The man who knows that he's forgiven
Dialogue: 0,0:51:40.41,0:51:45.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,only in and through the \Nshed blood of Jesus Christ,
Dialogue: 0,0:51:45.43,0:51:48.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he's a man who's constrained \Nto forgive others.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:48.24,0:51:52.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It really should be easy.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:52.28,0:51:53.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, I'm telling you,
Dialogue: 0,0:51:53.74,0:51:58.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if I had some four billion \Ndollar debt with the bank,
Dialogue: 0,0:51:58.87,0:52:00.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they forgave it,
Dialogue: 0,0:52:00.95,0:52:03.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then somebody that owes me $40
Dialogue: 0,0:52:03.46,0:52:05.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,comes and says they can't pay,
Dialogue: 0,0:52:05.14,0:52:08.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's like seriously? Am I going \Nto have the guy strung up?
Dialogue: 0,0:52:08.91,0:52:12.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's like God has forgiven me for so much!
Dialogue: 0,0:52:12.58,0:52:16.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Don't worry about it, brother!
Dialogue: 0,0:52:16.08,0:52:18.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it's debt. And we feel it different.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:18.15,0:52:20.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We feel it more than just \Nfinancial because it's personal,
Dialogue: 0,0:52:20.94,0:52:22.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's insult, and it's offensive
Dialogue: 0,0:52:22.68,0:52:24.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because we're talking about sins;
Dialogue: 0,0:52:24.28,0:52:26.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're talking about people wrong us.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:26.05,0:52:27.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just having a debt against us
Dialogue: 0,0:52:27.52,0:52:29.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,isn't necessarily wrong.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:29.04,0:52:30.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe not being able to pay it,
Dialogue: 0,0:52:30.64,0:52:32.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's some wrongness in that,
Dialogue: 0,0:52:32.17,0:52:33.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so we can take it personally.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:33.66,0:52:35.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But we don't have to take it personally
Dialogue: 0,0:52:35.85,0:52:38.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because God hasn't taken it so personally
Dialogue: 0,0:52:38.46,0:52:40.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that He's cast us into hell.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:40.08,0:52:41.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He so loved the world
Dialogue: 0,0:52:41.38,0:52:43.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that He put His own Son on that cross
Dialogue: 0,0:52:43.26,0:52:45.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and He allowed Him to \Nsuffer what He suffered.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:45.51,0:52:47.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He crushed Him under His wrath.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:47.18,0:52:48.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He put that cup to His lips.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:48.83,0:52:50.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He poured His soul out like water.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:50.51,0:52:51.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what are we going to do?
Dialogue: 0,0:52:51.87,0:52:54.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Look at this Son of God -
Dialogue: 0,0:52:54.34,0:52:57.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(incomplete thought)
Dialogue: 0,0:52:57.31,0:52:59.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,among the sons of men -
Dialogue: 0,0:52:59.47,0:53:01.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,here you've got John the Baptist,
Dialogue: 0,0:53:01.53,0:53:05.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Jesus says the things \NHe says about him,
Dialogue: 0,0:53:05.73,0:53:09.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he says I'm not worthy to touch
Dialogue: 0,0:53:09.06,0:53:11.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the latchet on his sandal.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:11.37,0:53:12.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have One worth that much
Dialogue: 0,0:53:12.98,0:53:15.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and God did not spare Him, \Nbut gave Him up for us,
Dialogue: 0,0:53:15.78,0:53:17.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who were what? Useless, worthless,
Dialogue: 0,0:53:17.72,0:53:20.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,weak, wretched, hell-deserving.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:20.87,0:53:23.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We were children of wrath \Nlike the rest of mankind.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:23.91,0:53:25.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we're going to look at that
Dialogue: 0,0:53:25.74,0:53:30.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and after everything that \NGod has done for us?
Dialogue: 0,0:53:30.32,0:53:32.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In our prayer, there ought to be
Dialogue: 0,0:53:32.58,0:53:34.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,such gratitude and thankfulness
Dialogue: 0,0:53:34.76,0:53:37.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a realization - this is \Nthe renewing of the mind.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:37.76,0:53:39.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not always going before God
Dialogue: 0,0:53:39.23,0:53:40.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where you feel insulted,
Dialogue: 0,0:53:40.97,0:53:44.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like I haven't gotten \Nout of life what I deserve.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:44.56,0:53:47.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,God, give me, give me, give me!
Dialogue: 0,0:53:47.60,0:53:50.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Incomplete thought)
Dialogue: 0,0:53:50.24,0:53:52.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you go before the Lord
Dialogue: 0,0:53:52.35,0:53:53.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there's gratitude, like,
Dialogue: 0,0:53:53.96,0:53:57.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Lord, I cannot believe You saved me."
Dialogue: 0,0:53:57.14,0:53:59.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's really hard to look at somebody else
Dialogue: 0,0:53:59.17,0:54:02.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and say, "I'm not forgiving you."
Dialogue: 0,0:54:02.29,0:54:04.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm going to harbor this grudge,
Dialogue: 0,0:54:04.60,0:54:08.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so just deal with it.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:08.13,0:54:09.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So our prayer life,
Dialogue: 0,0:54:09.90,0:54:12.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,clearly this prayer life,
Dialogue: 0,0:54:12.60,0:54:17.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's no aspect here
Dialogue: 0,0:54:17.62,0:54:19.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of whether they've repented or not.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:19.52,0:54:21.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The prayer life is it should be one
Dialogue: 0,0:54:21.23,0:54:24.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where it's all covered; it's all released.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:24.92,0:54:26.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not harboring it.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:26.19,0:54:29.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, I know that some individuals
Dialogue: 0,0:54:29.64,0:54:32.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,may need to repent in order
Dialogue: 0,0:54:32.45,0:54:34.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for there to be reconciliation
Dialogue: 0,0:54:34.33,0:54:36.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and for relationships to be restored
Dialogue: 0,0:54:36.53,0:54:41.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the way that would be best.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:41.46,0:54:43.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But that isn't the issue.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:43.73,0:54:47.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the last one that I \Nwant to bring up here is this:
Dialogue: 0,0:54:47.82,0:54:50.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Paul specifically mentions
Dialogue: 0,0:54:50.41,0:54:52.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,learning Jesus.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:52.76,0:54:54.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Assuming that you have heard of Him
Dialogue: 0,0:54:54.72,0:54:56.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and have been taught the truth
Dialogue: 0,0:54:56.20,0:54:57.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as it is in Jesus.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:57.70,0:55:06.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But he assumes that \Nwe've learned of Christ.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:06.95,0:55:11.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Brethren, we do not want to minimize
Dialogue: 0,0:55:11.19,0:55:15.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or dismiss or explain away
Dialogue: 0,0:55:15.07,0:55:18.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our Lord Jesus Christ on that cross
Dialogue: 0,0:55:18.48,0:55:20.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,saying "Father, forgive them,
Dialogue: 0,0:55:20.30,0:55:23.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for they know not what they do."
Dialogue: 0,0:55:23.04,0:55:24.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you look at that,
Dialogue: 0,0:55:24.91,0:55:26.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you tear that apart
Dialogue: 0,0:55:26.22,0:55:31.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to where He was praying \Nfor their forgiveness,
Dialogue: 0,0:55:31.67,0:55:34.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it doesn't say Jesus forgave them -
Dialogue: 0,0:55:34.42,0:55:36.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you want to try to \Nmake that distinction,
Dialogue: 0,0:55:36.69,0:55:38.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think you are trying to separate
Dialogue: 0,0:55:38.33,0:55:41.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what God never meant to be separated.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:41.02,0:55:45.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let's look at that. Luke 23:33.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:45.32,0:55:47.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Have you learned Christ?
Dialogue: 0,0:55:47.40,0:55:48.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here's the classroom.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:48.87,0:55:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let us come and sit at His feet and learn.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:56.00,0:55:59.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The new man is a man who's learned Christ.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:59.33,0:56:00.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let us learn.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:00.96,0:56:05.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Luke 23:33.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:05.83,0:56:09.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"When they came to the \Nplace that is called the Skull,
Dialogue: 0,0:56:09.11,0:56:11.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there they crucified Him \Nand the criminals,
Dialogue: 0,0:56:11.46,0:56:13.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one on His right hand \Nand one on His left.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:13.65,0:56:15.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Jesus said, 'Father, forgive them,
Dialogue: 0,0:56:15.79,0:56:17.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for they know not what they do.'"
Dialogue: 0,0:56:17.44,0:56:19.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, here's one thing we know for a fact.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:19.41,0:56:20.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're crucifying Him -
Dialogue: 0,0:56:20.62,0:56:23.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,no evidence that they've repented.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:23.72,0:56:25.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No evidence of that at all.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:25.75,0:56:27.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's no reason to assume it.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:27.74,0:56:29.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who is He speaking about?
Dialogue: 0,0:56:29.06,0:56:31.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Probably both Jews and Romans.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:31.04,0:56:32.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're both killing Him.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:32.84,0:56:36.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Incomplete thought)
Dialogue: 0,0:56:36.44,0:56:40.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jesus specifically said to Pilate,
Dialogue: 0,0:56:40.47,0:56:42.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(the Jews) crime, their sin is greater,
Dialogue: 0,0:56:42.75,0:56:44.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but He wasn't saying therefore
Dialogue: 0,0:56:44.74,0:56:47.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have no crime in this.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:47.32,0:56:50.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's praying for them.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:50.62,0:56:52.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Father, forgive them,
Dialogue: 0,0:56:52.51,0:56:54.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for they know not what they do."
Dialogue: 0,0:56:54.79,0:56:55.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I say this again.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:55.78,0:56:58.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We dare not try to explain this away
Dialogue: 0,0:56:58.57,0:57:01.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by saying that there's \Nno actual forgiveness
Dialogue: 0,0:57:01.19,0:57:02.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,taking place in this text.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:02.84,0:57:05.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or, that Jesus is only praying \Nfor their forgiveness,
Dialogue: 0,0:57:05.41,0:57:07.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but since no repentance has taken place,
Dialogue: 0,0:57:07.34,0:57:09.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's no forgiveness of any sort here.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:09.25,0:57:11.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now look, I recognize they need to repent
Dialogue: 0,0:57:11.31,0:57:14.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if His Father is going to forgive them.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:14.69,0:57:18.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I'm not talking about what God does,
Dialogue: 0,0:57:18.93,0:57:23.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm talking about the \Nheart of Christ in this.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:23.03,0:57:25.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the issue.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:25.76,0:57:27.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Answer me this.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:27.80,0:57:32.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is forgiveness?
Dialogue: 0,0:57:32.99,0:57:36.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Forgiveness means -
Dialogue: 0,0:57:36.67,0:57:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can look it up in your lexicons -
Dialogue: 0,0:57:40.00,0:57:42.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it means to let go.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:42.72,0:57:44.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's good right?
Dialogue: 0,0:57:44.64,0:57:46.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even if we're talking about a debt.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:46.57,0:57:48.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You let go.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:48.62,0:57:50.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We could use "cover."
Dialogue: 0,0:57:50.53,0:57:53.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's good imagery as well.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:53.17,0:57:58.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It means to let go.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:58.25,0:58:04.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jesus - notice - has He let go?
Dialogue: 0,0:58:04.61,0:58:08.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is He bitter? Wrathful?
Dialogue: 0,0:58:08.08,0:58:11.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Angry? Clamorous? Slanderous?
Dialogue: 0,0:58:11.31,0:58:14.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All those things that Paul was describing?
Dialogue: 0,0:58:14.43,0:58:19.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or has He let go?
Dialogue: 0,0:58:19.16,0:58:24.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jesus unconditionally is showing them
Dialogue: 0,0:58:24.56,0:58:27.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kindness and tenderness here.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:27.85,0:58:30.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's let go.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:30.33,0:58:33.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If this isn't forgiveness,
Dialogue: 0,0:58:33.89,0:58:35.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how else would you define it?
Dialogue: 0,0:58:35.83,0:58:37.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, the attitude -
Dialogue: 0,0:58:37.24,0:58:39.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because that's what \NPaul's concerned about.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:39.54,0:58:41.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's the attitude.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:41.03,0:58:43.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's the kind attitude.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:43.23,0:58:46.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's the tender attitude.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:46.46,0:58:49.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's the God-like attitude
Dialogue: 0,0:58:49.98,0:58:52.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of not holding our crimes against us
Dialogue: 0,0:58:52.40,0:58:55.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and forgiving us when we don't deserve it.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:55.92,0:58:59.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is that not what's \Nflowing from Christ here?
Dialogue: 0,0:58:59.51,0:59:03.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Kindness and tenderness.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:03.01,0:59:04.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What did they deserve?
Dialogue: 0,0:59:04.95,0:59:07.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're killing the Son of God!
Dialogue: 0,0:59:07.55,0:59:10.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of the greatest crimes ever committed.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:10.50,0:59:12.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's not holding on to it.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:12.14,0:59:14.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's no grudge. There's no bitterness.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:14.38,0:59:15.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's let go.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:15.56,0:59:17.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can call that, you can define that
Dialogue: 0,0:59:17.99,0:59:21.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by whatever terminology you want,
Dialogue: 0,0:59:21.12,0:59:23.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but you need to learn of Christ.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:23.52,0:59:25.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Put the term on it you want,
Dialogue: 0,0:59:25.17,0:59:30.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but that's the spirit of the new man.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:30.44,0:59:31.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you see it.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:31.67,0:59:34.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see it projected right onto Stephen.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:34.30,0:59:36.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Acts 7:58 - just one last place
Dialogue: 0,0:59:36.99,0:59:38.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want you to turn.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:38.25,0:59:40.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Acts 7:58.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:40.83,0:59:47.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because here comes a disciple of Christ.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:47.11,0:59:49.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The martyr Stephen.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:49.90,0:59:51.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we know -
Dialogue: 0,0:59:51.52,0:59:55.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we know that the Spirit \Nthat was so pervasive
Dialogue: 0,0:59:55.71,0:59:58.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the life of Christ
Dialogue: 0,0:59:58.58,1:00:04.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is shining forth from Stephen as well.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:04.19,1:00:07.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In Acts 7:58, "then they cast him
Dialogue: 0,1:00:07.44,1:00:13.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out of the city and stoned him."
Dialogue: 0,1:00:13.50,1:00:18.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You should probably think about stoning
Dialogue: 0,1:00:18.18,1:00:22.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,before you just read over it too quickly.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:22.29,1:00:24.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fact, probably if you \Nlooked on YouTube,
Dialogue: 0,1:00:24.40,1:00:26.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I imagine with everything out there today
Dialogue: 0,1:00:26.64,1:00:28.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can probably find pictures,
Dialogue: 0,1:00:28.12,1:00:31.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because there's enough women usually
Dialogue: 0,1:00:31.89,1:00:37.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who have been stoned in the Middle East.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:37.50,1:00:39.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"The witnesses laid down their garments
Dialogue: 0,1:00:39.48,1:00:41.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the feet of a young man named Saul,
Dialogue: 0,1:00:41.34,1:00:43.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and as they were stoning Stephen,
Dialogue: 0,1:00:43.34,1:00:46.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he called out..."
Dialogue: 0,1:00:46.03,1:00:49.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You imagine - a rock hits you.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:49.10,1:00:53.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, bang - concussion.\NBang - your teeth are out.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:53.33,1:00:56.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Bang - your rib is broken.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:56.59,1:00:57.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what's happening?
Dialogue: 0,1:00:57.80,1:00:59.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's not just covering up
Dialogue: 0,1:00:59.20,1:01:01.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and thinking about defending himself.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:01.61,1:01:03.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"'Lord Jesus, receive my spirit,'
Dialogue: 0,1:01:03.50,1:01:05.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,falling to his knees, he cried out
Dialogue: 0,1:01:05.95,1:01:08.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a loud voice,
Dialogue: 0,1:01:08.75,1:01:12.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Lord, do not hold this \Nsin against them.'"
Dialogue: 0,1:01:12.77,1:01:14.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's the spirit of it.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:14.35,1:01:16.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Stephen's prayers for \Nthose who stoned him.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:16.51,1:01:18.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Another example. Example of what?
Dialogue: 0,1:01:18.96,1:01:22.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're not repenting - \Nthey're killing him.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:22.70,1:01:25.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Obviously there's no repentance.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:25.84,1:01:26.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the issue is this,
Dialogue: 0,1:01:26.97,1:01:28.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,unilateral - you know what that means?
Dialogue: 0,1:01:28.86,1:01:30.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the opposite of bilateral -
Dialogue: 0,1:01:30.64,1:01:32.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well, not the opposite,
Dialogue: 0,1:01:32.29,1:01:35.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because you could have trilateral.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:35.90,1:01:38.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it's the idea of: all by yourself.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:38.47,1:01:39.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Unconditional.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:39.67,1:01:42.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're not requiring anything of them.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:42.71,1:01:46.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You just unilaterally, \Nunconditionally let it go.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:46.29,1:01:47.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're forgiving them.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:47.53,1:01:49.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The fact that Stephen \Nprayed for God's mercy
Dialogue: 0,1:01:49.65,1:01:51.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on his murderers shows
Dialogue: 0,1:01:51.48,1:01:53.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that he has already forgiven them.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:53.74,1:01:57.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now it's true, God's forgiveness
Dialogue: 0,1:01:57.08,1:01:58.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is not going to be granted to them
Dialogue: 0,1:01:58.70,1:02:00.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,apart from their repentance.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:00.08,1:02:01.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is absolutely true.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:01.73,1:02:04.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But Stephen himself - what has he done?
Dialogue: 0,1:02:04.76,1:02:08.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's already made a deliberate,
Dialogue: 0,1:02:08.59,1:02:11.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,conscious choice to relinquish
Dialogue: 0,1:02:11.95,1:02:13.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,his right to vengeance,
Dialogue: 0,1:02:13.85,1:02:15.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to retribution.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:15.27,1:02:17.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's let it go.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:17.22,1:02:18.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's forgiven them from his heart.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:18.99,1:02:24.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Again, if you don't \Nlike the term forgiveness,
Dialogue: 0,1:02:24.78,1:02:26.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what in the world is forgiveness
Dialogue: 0,1:02:26.94,1:02:29.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if it's not that?
Dialogue: 0,1:02:29.65,1:02:31.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what we want in the church.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:31.47,1:02:35.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the kind of reaction \Nto people that we want.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:35.42,1:02:38.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If somebody had suffered such things
Dialogue: 0,1:02:38.82,1:02:41.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as Christ and Stephen have suffered
Dialogue: 0,1:02:41.19,1:02:42.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they came into this church
Dialogue: 0,1:02:42.65,1:02:44.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and yet they were manifesting
Dialogue: 0,1:02:44.16,1:02:46.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tenderness and kindness
Dialogue: 0,1:02:46.27,1:02:48.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a willingness to \Nlet go like these men,
Dialogue: 0,1:02:48.88,1:02:52.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we wouldn't be scrambling for terms.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:52.58,1:02:55.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We would say, wow, \Nthat's a forgiving person.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:55.01,1:02:57.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why? Because that's the \Nway we use the term,
Dialogue: 0,1:02:57.23,1:02:58.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's what it means.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:58.84,1:03:01.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It means to let go of things like that.
Dialogue: 0,1:03:01.61,1:03:03.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Call this what you will.
Dialogue: 0,1:03:03.15,1:03:07.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You may argue that it doesn't say
Dialogue: 0,1:03:07.45,1:03:08.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jesus forgave them.
Dialogue: 0,1:03:08.83,1:03:10.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It doesn't say Stephen forgave them
Dialogue: 0,1:03:10.81,1:03:12.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in either of these passages.
Dialogue: 0,1:03:12.81,1:03:15.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I would just appeal to this,
Dialogue: 0,1:03:15.04,1:03:18.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what does it mean to forgive?
Dialogue: 0,1:03:18.48,1:03:21.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because if it doesn't mean \Nwhat these guys are doing,
Dialogue: 0,1:03:21.17,1:03:24.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have no clue what it means.
Dialogue: 0,1:03:24.67,1:03:28.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To me, that's... well, you say, to you?
Dialogue: 0,1:03:28.15,1:03:30.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's your opinion.
Dialogue: 0,1:03:30.37,1:03:34.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is what the term means.
Dialogue: 0,1:03:34.59,1:03:38.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It means to let go.
Dialogue: 0,1:03:38.04,1:03:40.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What's the point in all of this?
Dialogue: 0,1:03:40.87,1:03:44.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My point is this:
Dialogue: 0,1:03:44.48,1:03:47.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's not a time -
Dialogue: 0,1:03:47.76,1:03:51.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whether people have repented or not -
Dialogue: 0,1:03:51.13,1:03:53.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's not a time to hold \Ngrudges or bitterness.
Dialogue: 0,1:03:53.89,1:03:57.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's not a time that \Nwe shouldn't let go.
Dialogue: 0,1:03:57.88,1:04:00.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, I recognize,
Dialogue: 0,1:04:00.06,1:04:02.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I recognize there's times
Dialogue: 0,1:04:02.10,1:04:03.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when to have reconciliation
Dialogue: 0,1:04:03.92,1:04:06.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and have the relationship restored,
Dialogue: 0,1:04:06.69,1:04:09.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we need repentance from the other person.
Dialogue: 0,1:04:09.85,1:04:11.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I recognize there's times
Dialogue: 0,1:04:11.86,1:04:13.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to say to people in the church,
Dialogue: 0,1:04:13.63,1:04:17.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,unless you repent, we're putting you out.
Dialogue: 0,1:04:17.58,1:04:20.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But you know what, even \Nwhen we have to do that,
Dialogue: 0,1:04:20.96,1:04:24.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we can let go.
Dialogue: 0,1:04:24.85,1:04:27.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even when we have to do that,
Dialogue: 0,1:04:27.05,1:04:29.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,love can be dictating - not selfishness;
Dialogue: 0,1:04:29.84,1:04:33.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not this self-bitterness.
Dialogue: 0,1:04:33.58,1:04:35.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the attitude.
Dialogue: 0,1:04:35.24,1:04:37.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even when we have to discipline people,
Dialogue: 0,1:04:37.55,1:04:43.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we can manifest a disposition
Dialogue: 0,1:04:43.05,1:04:46.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like Stephen, like Christ.
Dialogue: 0,1:04:46.79,1:04:48.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Father, forgive them."
Dialogue: 0,1:04:48.75,1:04:50.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, we fear for them.
Dialogue: 0,1:04:50.17,1:04:52.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know when we discipline \Npeople out of the church,
Dialogue: 0,1:04:52.77,1:04:54.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think where their path is going to lead
Dialogue: 0,1:04:54.89,1:04:56.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if they don't repent.
Dialogue: 0,1:04:56.57,1:04:59.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I say, Lord, please -
Dialogue: 0,1:04:59.38,1:05:01.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,especially after coming under the truth
Dialogue: 0,1:05:01.40,1:05:02.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and experiencing the light -
Dialogue: 0,1:05:02.81,1:05:07.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their hell is going to be greater.
Dialogue: 0,1:05:07.33,1:05:09.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I fear for people.
Dialogue: 0,1:05:09.06,1:05:13.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You tremble for them.
Dialogue: 0,1:05:13.84,1:05:16.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But this is the heart.
Dialogue: 0,1:05:16.14,1:05:17.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the heart.
Dialogue: 0,1:05:17.39,1:05:20.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Kindness, tenderness, forgiving
Dialogue: 0,1:05:20.07,1:05:25.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as God in Christ forgave you.
Dialogue: 0,1:05:25.36,1:05:28.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The issue isn't the terms of repentance.
Dialogue: 0,1:05:28.85,1:05:32.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The issue is: you didn't deserve it,
Dialogue: 0,1:05:32.74,1:05:35.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and God forgave you
Dialogue: 0,1:05:35.42,1:05:36.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,beyond your wildest dreams!
Dialogue: 0,1:05:36.83,1:05:38.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hasn't He done things for you that are
Dialogue: 0,1:05:38.72,1:05:43.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so out there you can't hardly believe it?
Dialogue: 0,1:05:43.11,1:05:45.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then, in the light of that
Dialogue: 0,1:05:45.15,1:05:48.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that mindset,
Dialogue: 0,1:05:48.93,1:05:52.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,let go.
Dialogue: 0,1:05:52.03,1:05:54.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Father, I pray, give us this spirit.
Dialogue: 0,1:05:54.07,1:05:57.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,May it be pervasive here.
Dialogue: 0,1:05:57.72,1:06:00.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I ask this in the name of \Nour Lord Jesus Christ,
Dialogue: 0,1:06:00.42,1:06:01.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Amen.