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Dialogue: 0,0:00:11.04,0:00:15.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maya Angelou: \NThe one thing that con men will tell you
Dialogue: 0,0:00:15.34,0:00:18.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the only way you can be a mark is\Nif you want something for nothing.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:18.28,0:00:22.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you're greedy, you're set up. Perfect.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.35,0:00:32.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Studs Terkel: Daddy Clidell was your stepfather.\NMaya Angelou: Yes.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.24,0:00:34.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Studs Terkel: And Daddy Clidell lived by his\Nwits.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:34.36,0:00:38.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maya Angelou: Daddy Clidell owned pool halls and gambling houses.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:38.58,0:00:41.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Daddy Clidell knew the racket.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:41.76,0:00:44.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So he taught me how to look at cards\Nand see if they were marked,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:44.72,0:00:47.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how to weigh dice and know if they're loaded.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.82,0:00:50.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then he brought in alot of con men.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:50.20,0:00:53.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Professional con men who maybe take two marks a year.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:53.88,0:00:57.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Studs Terkel: We should point out a mark is someone who is taken.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.56,0:01:00.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maya Angelou: My dad, daddy... He'd call the guys in,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:00.52,0:01:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"y'all, come on in here, fellows. I want you to tell my baby here
Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.00,0:01:09.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how you sold that supermarket in Dallas." [laughs]
Dialogue: 0,0:01:09.42,0:01:13.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I'm raising this girl, I got to educate her."
Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.84,0:01:19.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So they told me not only the supermarket,\Nbut they sold a bridge in Oklahoma.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:19.06,0:01:26.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes. One man said that, "you see, you use the white man's bigotry against him."
Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.80,0:01:30.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maya Angelou: There was a white man in the town...
Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.08,0:01:30.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Studs Terkel: It was Tulsa.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.94,0:01:36.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maya Angelou: In Tulsa. Who had just exploited all the Indians and the blacks
Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.70,0:01:40.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and if he hated anybody more than Indians, it was blacks.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.10,0:01:43.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These two con men went down. They checked him out
Dialogue: 0,0:01:43.60,0:01:46.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and decided to play him against the\Nstore.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.02,0:01:51.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In long con that's when you set it up for two months, maybe, and spend a few thousand dollars.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.88,0:01:57.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You have cards made, a telephone taken in, a secretary, everything, the whole front.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.00,0:02:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of the guys played very, very ignorant and very shuffling
Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.00,0:02:07.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and went up to the man\Nand said, "look here."
Dialogue: 0,0:02:07.95,0:02:10.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I got a friend who own a piece of land, you know."
Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.72,0:02:16.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,See he got it because\Nhe's part Indian.” [laughs]
Dialogue: 0,0:02:16.58,0:02:24.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Some white man, some Yankee, want to buy that land because it's got a toll bridge on it."
Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.20,0:02:29.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My father's two friends, they sent for a white con man from New York
Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.60,0:02:35.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who came down as the big real estate agent from the north, who was interested in buying this land.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:35.28,0:02:42.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The white southerner, the Oklahoman, went to the office to talk to this northern real estate man, realtor.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.97,0:02:50.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The northerner said, "now, listen: I'm going\Nto get this land for maybe $70,000 or something like that"
Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.08,0:02:55.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"because the guy is ignorant. I've\Nchecked it out. My office has checked it out.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.68,0:03:01.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's got the title of clear. When he signs,\Nit's mine. But if you check it out or
Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.38,0:03:06.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you raise any kind of dust, the state will become aware of that land and that he really owns the property
Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.91,0:03:10.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they'll move in and confiscate\Nit. So just leave it alone.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:10.89,0:03:13.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You and I can work together."
Dialogue: 0,0:03:15.30,0:03:20.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maya Angelou: Well, this white cracker, the\Nsoutherner, the Oklahoman said,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.12,0:03:26.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"he knows niggers.” That’s his attitude. "So if this northerner is going to buy it for $70,000,"
Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.35,0:03:31.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"he can buy it for less than that. Get the\Nwhole thing.” [laughs].
Dialogue: 0,0:03:34.30,0:03:41.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At first the white southerner, the Oklahoman, he was brought to this Indian black American.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.40,0:03:46.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He went to him and he explained that he'd better have that land
Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.10,0:03:51.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how bad the northern whites were. He talked about the damn Yankees.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:51.22,0:03:57.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the shuffling Indian Negro said, "well, you know boss, I'd rather you have this land"
Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.84,0:04:04.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than that white man, that Yankee." So it took some time and he bought it.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:04.42,0:04:05.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Studs Terkel: For about 50,000.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:05.60,0:04:08.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maya Angelou: That's right. Cash.\NStuds Terkel: Cash.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:08.88,0:04:14.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maya Angelou: And that is not a rare… that\Nis not rare. I mean, when I was growing up,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:14.35,0:04:20.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I used to know men, very intelligent men,\Nwho lived on maybe 2 marks a year.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:20.41,0:04:23.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Studs Terkel: Basically you're talking about\Nthe stupidity of racism.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:23.82,0:04:25.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maya Angelou: That's right.\NStuds Terkel: In a way, it's almost a metaphor.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:25.34,0:04:30.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maya Angelou: Of course because these men\Nwere born before the turn of the century.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:30.04,0:04:36.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What a black man could be by 1915, his inability to function was crystallized.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:36.62,0:04:42.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He simply had no way to move. Yet, here are men who lived by that intelligence.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.28,0:04:49.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Suppose... imagine if that intelligence had been able to be used constructively.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.98,0:04:54.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is more constructively for the common good.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.60,0:05:05.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Studs Terkel: Maya Angelou, our guest. Thank\Nyou very much.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:05.44,0:05:10.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maya Angelou: Thank you Studs. It's wonderful to see you again, to see you keep on keeping on.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:10.74,0:05:12.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Studs Terkel: I'll stay on the case.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:12.20,0:05:13.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maya Angelou: That's it.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:23.52,0:05:30.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Music: JAHZZAR “Airship Fury”]