1 00:00:00,973 --> 00:00:03,209 While preparing for my talk 2 00:00:03,209 --> 00:00:07,263 I was reflecting on my life and trying to figure out 3 00:00:07,263 --> 00:00:12,187 where exactly was that moment when my journey began. 4 00:00:12,187 --> 00:00:14,834 A long time passed by, and I simply couldn't figure out 5 00:00:14,834 --> 00:00:17,806 the beginning or the middle or the end of my story. 6 00:00:17,806 --> 00:00:19,757 I always used to think that my beginning 7 00:00:19,757 --> 00:00:23,867 was one afternoon in my community when my mother had told me 8 00:00:23,867 --> 00:00:27,308 that I had escaped three arranged marriages by the time I was two. 9 00:00:28,278 --> 00:00:32,713 Or one evening when electricity had failed for eight hours in our community, 10 00:00:32,713 --> 00:00:34,965 and my dad sat, surrounded by all of us, 11 00:00:34,965 --> 00:00:38,866 telling us stories of when he was a little kid struggling to go to school 12 00:00:38,866 --> 00:00:42,974 while his father, who was a farmer, wanted him to work in the fields with him. 13 00:00:42,974 --> 00:00:45,722 Or that dark night when I was 16 14 00:00:45,722 --> 00:00:50,139 when three little kids had come to me and they whispered in my ear 15 00:00:50,139 --> 00:00:54,416 that my friend was murdered in something called the honor killings. 16 00:00:56,106 --> 00:00:58,231 But then I realized that, 17 00:00:58,231 --> 00:01:01,948 as much as I know that these moments have contributed on my journey, 18 00:01:01,948 --> 00:01:03,548 they have influenced my journey 19 00:01:03,548 --> 00:01:05,707 but they have not been the beginning of it, 20 00:01:05,707 --> 00:01:10,003 but the true beginning of my journey was in front of a mud house 21 00:01:10,003 --> 00:01:12,626 in upper Sindh of Pakistan, 22 00:01:12,626 --> 00:01:15,482 where my father held the hand of my 14-year-old mother 23 00:01:15,482 --> 00:01:17,502 and they decided to walk out of the village 24 00:01:17,502 --> 00:01:20,962 to go to a town where they could send their kids to school. 25 00:01:20,962 --> 00:01:23,168 In a way, I feel like my life 26 00:01:23,168 --> 00:01:28,903 is kind of a result of some wise choices and decisions they've made. 27 00:01:28,903 --> 00:01:31,759 And just like that, another of their decisions 28 00:01:31,759 --> 00:01:34,986 was to keep me and my siblings connected to our roots. 29 00:01:34,986 --> 00:01:39,235 While we were living in a community I fondly remember as called Ribabad, 30 00:01:39,235 --> 00:01:41,464 which means community of the poor, 31 00:01:41,464 --> 00:01:45,156 my dad made sure that we also had a house in our rural homeland. 32 00:01:45,156 --> 00:01:48,780 I come from an indigenous tribe in the mountains of Balochistan 33 00:01:48,780 --> 00:01:50,520 called Brahui. 34 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:55,688 Brahui, or Brohi, means mountain dweller, and it is also my language. 35 00:01:55,688 --> 00:01:59,924 Thanks to my father's very strict rules about connecting to our customs, 36 00:01:59,924 --> 00:02:05,655 I had to live a beautiful life of songs, cultures, traditions, stories, mountains, 37 00:02:05,655 --> 00:02:07,046 and a lot of sheep. 38 00:02:07,696 --> 00:02:10,365 But then, living in two extremes 39 00:02:10,365 --> 00:02:14,394 between the traditions of my culture, of my village, 40 00:02:14,394 --> 00:02:17,745 and then modern education in my school wasn't easy. 41 00:02:17,745 --> 00:02:22,249 I was aware that I was the only girl who got to have such freedom, 42 00:02:22,249 --> 00:02:24,293 and I was guilty of it. 43 00:02:24,293 --> 00:02:28,255 While going to school in Karachi and Hyderabad, 44 00:02:28,255 --> 00:02:32,196 a lot of my cousins and childhood friends were getting married off, 45 00:02:32,196 --> 00:02:34,950 some to older men, some in exchange, 46 00:02:34,950 --> 00:02:37,249 some even as second wives. 47 00:02:37,249 --> 00:02:42,558 I got to see the beautiful tradition and its magic fade in front of me 48 00:02:42,558 --> 00:02:47,892 when I saw that the birth of a girl child was celebrated with sadness, 49 00:02:47,892 --> 00:02:52,659 when women were told to have patience as their main virtue. 50 00:02:52,659 --> 00:02:54,640 Up until I was 16, 51 00:02:54,640 --> 00:02:57,448 I healed my sadness by crying, 52 00:02:57,448 --> 00:02:59,634 mostly at nights when everyone would sleep 53 00:02:59,634 --> 00:03:01,950 and I would sob in my pillow, 54 00:03:01,950 --> 00:03:05,297 until that one night when I found out my friend was killed 55 00:03:05,297 --> 00:03:07,471 in the name of honor. 56 00:03:08,381 --> 00:03:11,218 Honor killings is a custom 57 00:03:11,218 --> 00:03:14,116 where men and women are suspected of having relationships 58 00:03:14,116 --> 00:03:15,811 before or outside of the marriage, 59 00:03:15,811 --> 00:03:17,990 and they're killed by their family for it. 60 00:03:17,990 --> 00:03:22,375 Usually the killer is the brother or father or the uncle in the family. 61 00:03:22,375 --> 00:03:27,007 The U.N. reports there are about 1,000 honor murders every year in Pakistan, 62 00:03:27,007 --> 00:03:29,445 and these are only the reported cases. 63 00:03:29,445 --> 00:03:33,183 A custom that kills did not make any sense to me, 64 00:03:33,183 --> 00:03:35,761 and I knew I had to do something about it this time. 65 00:03:35,761 --> 00:03:38,152 I was not going to cry myself to sleep. 66 00:03:38,152 --> 00:03:40,660 I was going to do something, anything, to stop it. 67 00:03:40,660 --> 00:03:42,726 I was 16 -- I started writing poetry 68 00:03:42,726 --> 00:03:45,954 and going door to door telling everybody about honor killings 69 00:03:45,954 --> 00:03:48,149 and why it happens, why it should be stopped, 70 00:03:48,149 --> 00:03:49,585 and raising awareness about it 71 00:03:49,585 --> 00:03:54,162 until I actually found a much, much better way to handle this issue. 72 00:03:54,841 --> 00:04:01,002 In those days, we were living in a very small, one-roomed house in Karachi. 73 00:04:01,002 --> 00:04:05,529 Every year, during the monsoon seasons, our house would flood up with water -- 74 00:04:05,529 --> 00:04:07,236 rainwater and sewage -- 75 00:04:07,241 --> 00:04:10,368 and my mom and dad would be taking the water out. 76 00:04:10,368 --> 00:04:15,467 In those days, my dad brought home a huge machine, a computer. 77 00:04:15,467 --> 00:04:20,364 It was so big it looked as if it was going to take up half of the only room we had, 78 00:04:20,364 --> 00:04:23,864 and had so many pieces and wires that needed to be connected. 79 00:04:23,864 --> 00:04:25,954 But it was still the most exciting thing 80 00:04:25,954 --> 00:04:28,740 that has ever happened to me and my sisters. 81 00:04:28,740 --> 00:04:32,850 My oldest brother Ali got to be in charge of taking care of the computer, 82 00:04:32,850 --> 00:04:36,785 and all of us were given 10 to 15 minutes every day to use it. 83 00:04:36,785 --> 00:04:39,850 Being the oldest of eight kids, 84 00:04:39,850 --> 00:04:42,335 I got to use it the last, 85 00:04:42,335 --> 00:04:45,074 and that was after I had washed the dishes, 86 00:04:45,074 --> 00:04:47,837 cleaned the house, made dinner with my mom, 87 00:04:47,837 --> 00:04:50,529 and put blankets on the floor for everyone to sleep, 88 00:04:50,529 --> 00:04:52,712 and after that, I would run to the computer, 89 00:04:52,712 --> 00:04:54,269 connect it to the Internet, 90 00:04:54,269 --> 00:05:00,288 and have pure joy and wonder for 10 to 15 minutes. 91 00:05:00,288 --> 00:05:04,694 In those days, I had discovered a website called Joogle. 92 00:05:04,694 --> 00:05:07,760 [Google] (Laughter) 93 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:11,474 In my frantic wish to do something about this custom, 94 00:05:11,474 --> 00:05:14,982 I made use of Google and discovered Facebook, 95 00:05:14,982 --> 00:05:19,137 a website where people can connect to anyone around the world, 96 00:05:19,137 --> 00:05:23,618 and so, from my very tiny, cement-roofed room in Karachi, 97 00:05:23,618 --> 00:05:26,828 I connected with people in the U.K., the U.S., Australia and Canada, 98 00:05:26,828 --> 00:05:29,335 and created a campaign called 99 00:05:29,335 --> 00:05:32,228 WAKE UP Campaign against Honor Killings. 100 00:05:32,228 --> 00:05:35,299 It became enormous in just a few months. 101 00:05:35,299 --> 00:05:37,851 I got a lot of support from all around the world. 102 00:05:37,851 --> 00:05:39,312 Media was connecting to us. 103 00:05:39,312 --> 00:05:42,611 A lot of people were reaching out trying to raise awareness with us. 104 00:05:42,611 --> 00:05:47,353 It became so big that it went from online to the streets of my hometown, 105 00:05:47,353 --> 00:05:49,697 where we would do rallies and strikes 106 00:05:49,697 --> 00:05:53,169 trying to change the policies in Pakistan for women's support. 107 00:05:53,169 --> 00:05:56,891 And while I thought everything was perfect, 108 00:05:56,891 --> 00:06:00,768 my team -- which was basically my friends and neighbors at that time -- 109 00:06:00,768 --> 00:06:02,858 thought everything was going so well, 110 00:06:02,858 --> 00:06:07,259 we had no idea a big opposition was coming to us. 111 00:06:08,039 --> 00:06:10,174 My community stood up against us, 112 00:06:10,174 --> 00:06:13,891 saying we were spreading un-Islamic behavior. 113 00:06:13,891 --> 00:06:18,601 We were challenging centuries-old customs in those communities. 114 00:06:18,601 --> 00:06:21,679 I remember my father receiving anonymous letters 115 00:06:21,679 --> 00:06:24,615 saying, "Your daughter is spreading Western culture 116 00:06:24,615 --> 00:06:26,341 in the honorable societies." 117 00:06:26,341 --> 00:06:28,887 Our car was stoned at one point. 118 00:06:28,887 --> 00:06:32,787 One day I went to the office and found our metal signboard 119 00:06:32,787 --> 00:06:37,589 wrinkled and broken as if a lot of people had been hitting it with something heavy. 120 00:06:37,589 --> 00:06:41,216 Things got so bad that I had to hide myself in many ways. 121 00:06:41,216 --> 00:06:44,293 I would put up the windows of the car, 122 00:06:44,293 --> 00:06:48,225 veil my face, not speak while I was in public, 123 00:06:48,225 --> 00:06:52,202 but eventually situations got worse when my life was threatened, 124 00:06:52,202 --> 00:06:56,768 and I had to leave, back to Karachi, and our actions stopped. 125 00:06:57,962 --> 00:07:01,335 Back in Karachi, as an 18-year-old, 126 00:07:01,335 --> 00:07:06,101 I thought this was the biggest failure of my entire life. 127 00:07:06,101 --> 00:07:08,011 I was devastated. 128 00:07:08,011 --> 00:07:11,656 As a teenager, I was blaming myself for everything that happened. 129 00:07:11,656 --> 00:07:13,792 And it turns out, when we started reflecting, 130 00:07:13,792 --> 00:07:19,666 we did realize that it was actually me and my team's fault. 131 00:07:19,666 --> 00:07:24,821 There were two big reasons why our campaign had failed big time. 132 00:07:24,821 --> 00:07:27,071 One of those, the first reason, 133 00:07:27,071 --> 00:07:29,700 is we were standing against core values of people. 134 00:07:30,900 --> 00:07:34,412 We were saying no to something that was very important to them, 135 00:07:34,412 --> 00:07:36,759 challenging their code of honor, 136 00:07:36,759 --> 00:07:39,026 and hurting them deeply in the process. 137 00:07:39,026 --> 00:07:41,725 And number two, which was very important for me to learn, 138 00:07:41,725 --> 00:07:43,930 and amazing, and surprising for me to learn, 139 00:07:43,930 --> 00:07:47,111 was that we were not including the true heroes 140 00:07:47,111 --> 00:07:49,317 who should be fighting for themselves. 141 00:07:49,317 --> 00:07:53,274 The women in the villages had no idea we were fighting for them in the streets. 142 00:07:53,274 --> 00:07:54,711 Every time I would go back, 143 00:07:54,711 --> 00:07:57,718 I would find my cousins and friends with scarves on their faces, 144 00:07:57,718 --> 00:07:59,512 and I would ask, "What happened?" 145 00:07:59,512 --> 00:08:01,902 And they'd be like, "Our husbands beat us." 146 00:08:01,902 --> 00:08:04,781 But we are working in the streets for you! 147 00:08:04,781 --> 00:08:06,383 We are changing the policies. 148 00:08:06,383 --> 00:08:09,355 How is that not impacting their life? 149 00:08:09,355 --> 00:08:14,206 So then we found out something which was very amazing for us. 150 00:08:14,206 --> 00:08:16,856 The policies of a country 151 00:08:16,856 --> 00:08:21,467 do not necessarily always affect the tribal and rural communities. 152 00:08:21,467 --> 00:08:25,771 It was devastating -- like, oh, we can't actually do something about this? 153 00:08:25,771 --> 00:08:28,813 And we found out there's a huge gap 154 00:08:28,813 --> 00:08:32,649 when it comes to official policies and the real truth on the ground. 155 00:08:32,649 --> 00:08:35,961 So this time, we were like, we are going to do something different. 156 00:08:35,961 --> 00:08:37,710 We are going to use strategy, 157 00:08:37,710 --> 00:08:40,699 and we are going to go back and apologize. 158 00:08:40,699 --> 00:08:42,350 Yes, apologize. 159 00:08:42,350 --> 00:08:43,863 We went back to the communities 160 00:08:43,863 --> 00:08:47,111 and we said we are very ashamed of what we did. 161 00:08:47,111 --> 00:08:51,681 We are here to apologize, and in fact, we are here to make it up to you. 162 00:08:51,681 --> 00:08:53,251 How do we do that? 163 00:08:53,251 --> 00:08:56,217 We are going to promote three of your main cultures. 164 00:08:56,217 --> 00:08:59,799 We know that it's music, language, and embroidery. 165 00:08:59,799 --> 00:09:01,325 Nobody believed us. 166 00:09:01,325 --> 00:09:04,063 Nobody wanted to work with us. 167 00:09:04,063 --> 00:09:07,618 It took a lot of convincing and discussions with these communities 168 00:09:07,618 --> 00:09:11,310 until they agreed that we are going to promote their language 169 00:09:11,310 --> 00:09:15,972 by making a booklet of their stories, fables and old tales in the tribe, 170 00:09:15,972 --> 00:09:18,544 and we would promote their music 171 00:09:18,544 --> 00:09:24,055 by making a CD of the songs from the tribe, and some drumbeating. 172 00:09:24,055 --> 00:09:26,216 And the third, which was my favorite, 173 00:09:26,216 --> 00:09:30,227 was we would promote their embroidery by making a center in the village 174 00:09:30,227 --> 00:09:33,362 where women would come every day to make embroidery. 175 00:09:34,064 --> 00:09:36,038 And so it began. 176 00:09:36,038 --> 00:09:40,040 We worked with one village, and we started our first center. 177 00:09:40,770 --> 00:09:42,268 It was a beautiful day. 178 00:09:42,268 --> 00:09:43,372 We started the center. 179 00:09:43,372 --> 00:09:45,441 Women were coming to make embroidery, 180 00:09:45,441 --> 00:09:49,185 and going through a life-changing process of education, 181 00:09:49,185 --> 00:09:52,235 learning about their rights, what Islam says about their rights, 182 00:09:52,235 --> 00:09:55,054 and enterprise development, how they can create money, 183 00:09:55,054 --> 00:09:57,306 and then how they can create money from money, 184 00:09:57,306 --> 00:10:01,184 how they can fight the customs that have been destroying their lives 185 00:10:01,184 --> 00:10:02,902 from so many centuries, 186 00:10:02,902 --> 00:10:04,758 because in Islam, in reality, 187 00:10:04,758 --> 00:10:08,373 women are supposed to be shoulder to shoulder with men. 188 00:10:08,373 --> 00:10:12,125 Women have so much status that we have not been hearing, 189 00:10:12,125 --> 00:10:13,938 that they have not been hearing, 190 00:10:13,938 --> 00:10:16,956 and we needed to tell them that they need to know 191 00:10:16,956 --> 00:10:19,696 where their rights are and how to take them by themselves, 192 00:10:19,696 --> 00:10:22,021 because they can do it and we can't. 193 00:10:22,021 --> 00:10:24,993 So this was the model which actually came out -- very amazing. 194 00:10:24,993 --> 00:10:27,526 Through embroidery we were promoting their traditions. 195 00:10:27,526 --> 00:10:30,237 We went into the village. We would mobilize the community. 196 00:10:30,237 --> 00:10:33,257 We would make a center inside where 30 women will come 197 00:10:33,257 --> 00:10:37,365 for six months to learn about value addition of traditional embroidery, 198 00:10:37,365 --> 00:10:41,104 enterprise development, life skills and basic education, 199 00:10:41,104 --> 00:10:44,215 and about their rights and how to say no to those customs 200 00:10:44,215 --> 00:10:47,886 and how to stand as leaders for themselves and the society. 201 00:10:47,886 --> 00:10:52,698 After six months, we would connect these women to loans and to markets 202 00:10:52,698 --> 00:10:56,608 where they can become local entrepreneurs in their communities. 203 00:10:56,608 --> 00:10:59,865 We soon called this project Sughar. 204 00:10:59,865 --> 00:11:03,905 Sughar is a local word used in many, many languages in Pakistan. 205 00:11:03,905 --> 00:11:07,341 It means skilled and confident women. 206 00:11:07,341 --> 00:11:12,449 I truly believe, to create women leaders, there's only one thing you have to do: 207 00:11:12,449 --> 00:11:16,631 Just let them know that they have what it takes to be a leader. 208 00:11:16,631 --> 00:11:18,130 These women you see here, 209 00:11:18,130 --> 00:11:22,573 they have strong skills and potential to be leaders. 210 00:11:22,573 --> 00:11:25,615 All we had to do was remove the barriers that surrounded them, 211 00:11:25,615 --> 00:11:28,154 and that's what we decided to do. 212 00:11:28,154 --> 00:11:31,443 But then while we were thinking everything was going well, 213 00:11:31,443 --> 00:11:34,043 once again everything was fantastic, 214 00:11:34,043 --> 00:11:36,110 we found our next setback: 215 00:11:36,110 --> 00:11:39,279 A lot of men started seeing the visible changes in their wife. 216 00:11:39,279 --> 00:11:41,420 She's speaking more, she's making decisions -- 217 00:11:41,420 --> 00:11:44,109 oh my gosh, she's handling everything in the house. 218 00:11:44,109 --> 00:11:48,578 They stopped them from coming to the centers, 219 00:11:48,578 --> 00:11:52,622 and this time, we were like, okay, time for strategy two. 220 00:11:52,622 --> 00:11:54,710 We went to the fashion industry in Pakistan 221 00:11:54,710 --> 00:11:58,493 and decided to do research about what happens there. 222 00:11:58,493 --> 00:12:03,480 Turns out the fashion industry in Pakistan is very strong and growing day by day, 223 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:07,046 but there is less contribution from the tribal areas 224 00:12:07,046 --> 00:12:10,121 and to the tribal areas, especially women. 225 00:12:10,121 --> 00:12:14,555 So we decided to launch our first ever tribal women's very own fashion brand, 226 00:12:14,555 --> 00:12:17,185 which is now called Nomads. 227 00:12:18,085 --> 00:12:20,267 And so women started earning more, 228 00:12:20,267 --> 00:12:23,073 they started contributing more financially to the house, 229 00:12:23,073 --> 00:12:26,304 and men had to think again before saying no to them 230 00:12:26,304 --> 00:12:28,363 when they were coming to the centers. 231 00:12:31,343 --> 00:12:34,106 (Applause) 232 00:12:34,106 --> 00:12:36,265 Thank you, thank you. 233 00:12:36,265 --> 00:12:41,442 In 2013, we launched our first Sughar Hub instead of a center. 234 00:12:41,442 --> 00:12:43,602 We partnered with TripAdvisor 235 00:12:43,602 --> 00:12:47,514 and created a cement hall in the middle of a village 236 00:12:47,514 --> 00:12:51,752 and invited so many other organizations to work over there. 237 00:12:51,752 --> 00:12:53,847 We created this platform for the nonprofits 238 00:12:53,847 --> 00:12:56,170 so they can touch and work on the other issues 239 00:12:56,170 --> 00:12:58,395 that Sughar is not working on, 240 00:12:58,395 --> 00:13:02,259 which would be an easy place for them to give trainings, 241 00:13:02,259 --> 00:13:04,874 use it as a farmer school, even as a marketplace, 242 00:13:04,874 --> 00:13:07,146 and anything they want to use it for, 243 00:13:07,146 --> 00:13:09,259 and they have been doing really amazingly. 244 00:13:09,259 --> 00:13:12,789 And so far, we have been able to support 900 women 245 00:13:12,789 --> 00:13:16,039 in 24 villages around Pakistan. 246 00:13:16,039 --> 00:13:20,544 (Applause) 247 00:13:21,624 --> 00:13:24,568 But that's actually not what I want. 248 00:13:26,758 --> 00:13:31,410 My dream is to reach out to one million women in the next 10 years, 249 00:13:31,410 --> 00:13:33,059 and to make sure that happens, 250 00:13:33,059 --> 00:13:36,047 this year we launched Sughar Foundation in the U.S. 251 00:13:36,047 --> 00:13:40,811 It is not just going to fund Sughar but many other organizations in Pakistan 252 00:13:40,811 --> 00:13:43,020 to replicate the idea 253 00:13:43,020 --> 00:13:45,760 and to find even more innovative ways 254 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:49,591 to unleash the rural women's potential in Pakistan. 255 00:13:49,591 --> 00:13:51,564 Thank you so much. 256 00:13:51,564 --> 00:13:54,606 (Applause) 257 00:13:54,606 --> 00:13:57,336 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. 258 00:13:59,056 --> 00:14:02,359 Chris Anderson: Khalida, you are quite the force of nature. 259 00:14:02,359 --> 00:14:06,982 I mean, this story, in many ways, just seems beyond belief. 260 00:14:06,982 --> 00:14:11,042 It's incredible that someone so young could do achieve this much 261 00:14:11,042 --> 00:14:13,900 through so much force and ingenuity. 262 00:14:13,900 --> 00:14:15,470 So I guess one question: 263 00:14:15,470 --> 00:14:20,181 This is a spectacular dream to reach out and empower a million women -- 264 00:14:20,181 --> 00:14:23,975 how much of the current success depends on you, 265 00:14:23,975 --> 00:14:28,208 the force of this magnetic personality? 266 00:14:28,218 --> 00:14:30,848 How does it scale? 267 00:14:30,858 --> 00:14:35,344 Khalida Brohi: I think my job is to give the inspiration out, 268 00:14:35,344 --> 00:14:37,065 give my dream out. 269 00:14:37,065 --> 00:14:40,487 I can't teach how to do it, because there are so many different ways. 270 00:14:40,487 --> 00:14:42,792 We have been experimenting with three ways only. 271 00:14:42,792 --> 00:14:46,385 There are a hundred different ways to unleash potential in women. 272 00:14:46,385 --> 00:14:49,033 I would just give the inspiration and that's my job. 273 00:14:49,033 --> 00:14:51,507 I will keep doing it. Sughar will still be growing. 274 00:14:51,507 --> 00:14:54,595 We are planning to reach out to two more villages, 275 00:14:54,595 --> 00:14:57,575 and soon I believe we will be scaling out of Pakistan 276 00:14:57,575 --> 00:15:00,361 into South Asia and beyond. 277 00:15:00,361 --> 00:15:03,914 CA: I love that when you talked about your team in the talk, 278 00:15:03,914 --> 00:15:06,096 I mean, you were all 18 at the time. 279 00:15:06,096 --> 00:15:07,861 What did this team look like? 280 00:15:07,861 --> 00:15:09,509 This was school friends, right? 281 00:15:09,509 --> 00:15:14,478 KB: Do people here believe that I'm at an age 282 00:15:14,478 --> 00:15:17,522 where I'm supposed to be a grandmother in my village? 283 00:15:17,522 --> 00:15:23,412 My mom was married at nine, and I am the oldest woman not married 284 00:15:23,412 --> 00:15:26,988 and not doing anything in my life in my village. 285 00:15:26,988 --> 00:15:30,285 CA: Wait, wait, wait, not doing anything? 286 00:15:30,285 --> 00:15:32,653 KB: No. CA: You're right. 287 00:15:32,653 --> 00:15:35,556 KB: People feel sorry for me, a lot of times. 288 00:15:35,556 --> 00:15:39,480 CA: But how much time are you spending now actually back in Balochistan? 289 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,367 KB: I live over there. 290 00:15:41,367 --> 00:15:44,199 We live between, still, Karachi and Balochistan. 291 00:15:44,199 --> 00:15:46,983 My siblings are all going to school. 292 00:15:46,983 --> 00:15:49,424 I am still the oldest of eight siblings. 293 00:15:49,424 --> 00:15:53,784 CA: But what you're doing is definitely threatening to some people there. 294 00:15:53,784 --> 00:15:58,140 How do you handle safety? Do you feel safe? 295 00:15:58,140 --> 00:16:00,265 Are there issues there? 296 00:16:00,265 --> 00:16:04,075 KB: This question has come to me a lot of times before, 297 00:16:04,075 --> 00:16:10,390 and I feel like the word "fear" just comes to me and then drops, 298 00:16:10,390 --> 00:16:14,120 but there is one fear that I have that is different from that. 299 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:17,623 The fear is that if I get killed, what would happen to the people 300 00:16:17,623 --> 00:16:19,608 who love me so much? 301 00:16:19,608 --> 00:16:23,840 My mom waits for me till late at night that I should come home. 302 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,585 My sisters want to learn so much from me, 303 00:16:26,585 --> 00:16:29,846 and there are many, many girls in my community who want to talk to me 304 00:16:29,846 --> 00:16:32,119 and ask me different things, 305 00:16:32,119 --> 00:16:34,910 and I recently got engaged. (Laughs) 306 00:16:34,910 --> 00:16:37,324 (Applause) 307 00:16:37,324 --> 00:16:40,552 CA: Is he here? You've got to stand up. 308 00:16:40,552 --> 00:16:44,058 (Applause) 309 00:16:48,098 --> 00:16:51,720 KB: Escaping arranged marriages, I chose my own husband 310 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:56,178 across the world in L.A., a really different world. 311 00:16:56,178 --> 00:16:59,444 I had to fight for a whole year. That's totally a different story. 312 00:16:59,444 --> 00:17:04,189 But I think that's the only thing that I'm afraid of, 313 00:17:04,189 --> 00:17:09,933 and I don't want my mom to not see anyone when she waits in the night. 314 00:17:09,933 --> 00:17:12,404 CA: So people who want to help you on their way, 315 00:17:12,404 --> 00:17:15,077 they can go on, they can maybe buy some of these clothes 316 00:17:15,077 --> 00:17:17,649 that you're bringing over 317 00:17:17,649 --> 00:17:21,161 that are actually made, the embroidery is done back in Balochistan? 318 00:17:21,161 --> 00:17:22,369 KB: Yeah. 319 00:17:22,369 --> 00:17:24,573 CA: Or they can get involved in the foundation. 320 00:17:24,573 --> 00:17:27,419 KB: Definitely. We are looking for as many people as we can, 321 00:17:27,419 --> 00:17:31,117 because now that the foundation's in the beginning process, 322 00:17:31,117 --> 00:17:33,708 I am trying to learn a lot about how to operate, 323 00:17:33,708 --> 00:17:38,087 how to get funding or reach out to more organizations, 324 00:17:38,087 --> 00:17:41,245 and especially in the e-commerce, which is very new for me. 325 00:17:41,245 --> 00:17:43,632 I mean, I am not a fashion person, believe me. 326 00:17:43,632 --> 00:17:46,929 CA: Well, it's been incredible to have you here. 327 00:17:46,929 --> 00:17:51,944 Please go on being courageous, go on being smart, and please stay safe. 328 00:17:51,944 --> 00:17:59,978 KB: Thank you so much. CA: Thank you, Khalida. (Applause)