1 00:00:00,170 --> 00:00:04,880 A question that I get with surprising frequency from non-vegans and vegans alike is whether it's 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:09,840 ethical to consume eggs from a rescued or backyard chicken. It goes something like this. 3 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:14,090 “My friend has her own chickens and she loves them and takes really good care 4 00:00:14,090 --> 00:00:18,440 of them and they’re happy and healthy and they lay eggs all the time that aren’t fertilized. 5 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:23,080 So, wouldn’t it be okay for her to eat them? I mean if the chicken just drops the egg and 6 00:00:23,080 --> 00:00:28,119 walks away? Or carries it to my friend and offers the egg to her with outstretched wings? 7 00:00:28,119 --> 00:00:31,659 Or leaves a little note on the ground saying ‘please take this thing that came out 8 00:00:31,660 --> 00:00:34,740 of my vagina/anus and put it in your mouth?" 9 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:40,300 Okay I may have made up those last two. 10 00:00:40,820 --> 00:00:45,080 But you get the idea. There’s even a new dietary distinction called “veggan.” 11 00:00:46,140 --> 00:00:50,739 (and I have no idea if that’s how it’s pronounced, but that’s what it’s going to be today). 12 00:00:51,300 --> 00:00:55,940 So, let’s finally tackle this beast. What is the ethical concern with eating eggs 13 00:00:55,940 --> 00:00:58,100 from rescued or backyard hens? 14 00:01:02,340 --> 00:01:06,780 Hi it's Emily from Bite Size Vegan and welcome to another vegan nugget. I’ve answered this 15 00:01:06,780 --> 00:01:11,930 question briefly in the Q&A for a speech I gave, which you can watch here. But today 16 00:01:11,930 --> 00:01:14,690 I’m going to go into greater depth. And I’ll warn you ahead of time, 17 00:01:14,690 --> 00:01:16,939 I'm rather snarky in this video. 18 00:01:17,500 --> 00:01:23,180 First off, let’s address this veggan thing. Veggans, according to dietitian Jessica Cording, 19 00:01:23,180 --> 00:01:27,200 “follow the ‘rules’ of a vegan diet — they avoid animal and dairy products and 20 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:31,180 eat a plant-based diet — they just also eat eggs.” 21 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:36,100 Yes, because something that comes out of the sphincter of a bird 22 00:01:36,100 --> 00:01:38,640 is definitely NOT an animal product. 23 00:01:39,420 --> 00:01:43,460 Instagram is aflutter with the new hashtag and several articles have already been written 24 00:01:43,460 --> 00:01:49,200 on vegganism, one of which includes this gem from registered dietitian Alissa Rumsey, a 25 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:53,890 spokesperson for the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics: “As people become more interested 26 00:01:53,890 --> 00:01:58,789 and aware of how food affects both their health as well as the environment, plant-based diets, 27 00:01:58,789 --> 00:02:02,999 including veganism, are becoming more and more popular and mainstream. Veganism may 28 00:02:02,999 --> 00:02:06,270 be appealing to people, but many find that it is too restrictive.” 29 00:02:06,270 --> 00:02:10,450 Because once you rule out the flesh of animals’ bodies the secretions and objects that come 30 00:02:10,450 --> 00:02:14,570 out of their orifices, there’s just really nothing left to eat! 31 00:02:16,500 --> 00:02:21,900 So why do veggans feel compelled to consume the shelled menstruation of another species? 32 00:02:23,020 --> 00:02:24,640 Protein, of course. 33 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,020 I mean, where else can you get it? 34 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:36,340 Food writer Vicki Anne Hadley, featured in The Daily Mail, was vegan for a whole 6 months before adding 35 00:02:36,340 --> 00:02:38,920 eggs back into her diet when her friend, 36 00:02:39,420 --> 00:02:42,700 who has her own chickens, offered her an egg dish. 37 00:02:42,709 --> 00:02:48,150 Hadley says, “I am very into fitness and have a very active lifestyle so I wanted to 38 00:02:48,150 --> 00:02:51,010 ensure that I would be getting enough protein in my diet.” 39 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:55,939 Never mind the fact that the USDA has deemed it illegal for the egg industry to advertise 40 00:02:55,939 --> 00:03:00,709 eggs as “a protein-rich food” if they’re using government money. It’s also illegal 41 00:03:00,709 --> 00:03:04,920 to say they “contribute nutritionally,” are “healthful” or even “contribute 42 00:03:04,920 --> 00:03:08,819 healthful components.” They can’t say eggs are “good for you,” “healthy” 43 00:03:08,819 --> 00:03:13,699 or an “important part of well-balanced, healthy diet.” Or even “safe.” 44 00:03:14,020 --> 00:03:20,080 Eggs were even found to have the same atherosclerotic effect as cigarettes in a 2012 study. 45 00:03:20,090 --> 00:03:24,560 However, the egg industry has been trying valiantly for decades to portray their product 46 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:29,530 as healthy, rarely letting legal restrictions hold them back and by and large succeeding 47 00:03:29,530 --> 00:03:35,599 in their goal. To hear the entire sordid conspiracy behind eggs, see my video The Great Egg Conspiracy: 48 00:03:35,599 --> 00:03:39,200 Lies, Corruption & Kevin Bacon, linked here and below. 49 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,780 Long story short, eggs are one of the worst things you can put in your body. 50 00:03:42,780 --> 00:03:47,480 However, as you may know and as I always emphasize, veganism at its core is not about health. 51 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:51,790 It can be the healthiest way to eat, but poor health doesn’t necessarily mean poor ethics. 52 00:03:51,790 --> 00:03:55,570 So even if eggs are horrendous for our health, what’s the ethical issue with 53 00:03:55,570 --> 00:03:57,780 eggs from backyard or rescued chickens? 54 00:03:57,790 --> 00:04:02,409 If you don’t already know, chickens on standard farms and even free-range farms are kept indoors 55 00:04:02,409 --> 00:04:07,469 in cramped, filthy conditions and forced to produce an unnaturally large amount of eggs, 56 00:04:07,469 --> 00:04:11,629 robbing their body of essential nutrients and leading to premature death. If they don’t 57 00:04:11,629 --> 00:04:15,909 die from exhaustion, disease, or malnutrition, they’re sent to slaughter when their production 58 00:04:15,909 --> 00:04:19,749 declines, typically around 68-72 weeks of age, though their 59 00:04:19,749 --> 00:04:22,440 life expectancy is around 8-10 years. 60 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:27,920 The most horrifying aspect of eggs is that male layer chicks are ground up alive or suffocated 61 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:33,010 by the hundreds of millions every year. These are brand new, fluffy baby chicks, 62 00:04:33,010 --> 00:04:35,650 thrown into grinders while they’re still conscious. 63 00:04:35,650 --> 00:04:40,890 So, all of that horror aside, what about the idyllic backyard and rescue chickens, living 64 00:04:40,890 --> 00:04:44,810 out their lives outside in the grass, free to roam and peck as nature intended? 65 00:04:44,810 --> 00:04:49,670 There are several aspects to look at here. First, where did these beloved chickens come 66 00:04:49,670 --> 00:04:54,540 from? Did your friend -- because everyone who asks me this refers to their friend or 67 00:04:54,540 --> 00:04:59,870 some hypothetical situation, so I’ll follow suit: did they buy them from someone involved 68 00:04:59,870 --> 00:05:05,020 in the animal products industry? If so, that act in itself is supporting cruelty. But let’s 69 00:05:05,020 --> 00:05:07,460 say your friend rescued their chickens from a sanctuary. 70 00:05:07,460 --> 00:05:11,760 Another consideration is, does your friend really have the resources and know-how to 71 00:05:11,770 --> 00:05:16,370 care for chickens? Backyard chickens seem to be the new urban hipster accessory. 72 00:05:16,740 --> 00:05:20,280 They are to hipsters what the purse Chihuahua is to socialites. 73 00:05:21,260 --> 00:05:25,420 Many people who excitedly bring home their chickens don’t realize the high cost of 74 00:05:25,420 --> 00:05:30,510 properly caring for them and either end up offering a sub-par or even low-quality home 75 00:05:30,510 --> 00:05:34,690 for their chickens, turning around and passing them off on someone else, or even 76 00:05:34,690 --> 00:05:38,310 letting them go as if they’ll return to the chicken wild. 77 00:05:38,620 --> 00:05:42,680 But let’s say your friend knows their chicken stuff and has the finances and land. 78 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:44,960 Is it okay to take the eggs then? 79 00:05:45,150 --> 00:05:49,710 What not everyone knows is that chickens will cannibalize their own eggs. This is an important 80 00:05:49,710 --> 00:05:54,620 practice that returns vital nutrients to their system lost with egg production. Making an 81 00:05:54,620 --> 00:05:59,620 egg is a serious endeavor involving an extreme loss of calcium and pressure on the hen’s body. 82 00:05:59,620 --> 00:06:04,550 This is part of why hens in the egg industry die so early. In addition, taking a hen's egg 83 00:06:04,550 --> 00:06:08,430 away sends the signal to her body to make a replacement. So the more eggs we take away 84 00:06:08,430 --> 00:06:12,350 the more she’ll produce, thus continually depleting her body. 85 00:06:12,350 --> 00:06:16,530 If your friend’s hens don’t seem interested in eating the egg, they can always crack it 86 00:06:16,530 --> 00:06:19,520 a little, which usually let’s the hen know it’s not going to turn in to a baby and 87 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:23,690 is available for eating. This is something I did when I volunteered at SASHA Farm Animal 88 00:06:23,690 --> 00:06:26,820 Sanctuary. And trust me, there was nothing left. 89 00:06:26,820 --> 00:06:31,420 But what if your friend has cracked the egg and the hens still won’t eat it. Can they 90 00:06:31,420 --> 00:06:35,840 then, finally, serve it up over easy, despite, of course, the health consequences? 91 00:06:35,840 --> 00:06:38,260 Isn't an omelete ethical at this point? 92 00:06:38,270 --> 00:06:44,210 Here’s what it comes done to. Hens do not make eggs for us. They are not ours. And this 93 00:06:44,210 --> 00:06:49,810 insane drive to justify something – anything – that came from an animal because, god forbid 94 00:06:49,810 --> 00:06:53,050 we not eat something that came out of someone else, is part of 95 00:06:53,050 --> 00:06:55,930 the addict behavior of animal product consumption. 96 00:06:56,300 --> 00:07:00,380 If you think that’s extreme, take in this excerpt from an article in The Guardian quoting 97 00:07:00,380 --> 00:07:04,520 Isobel Davies, co-founder of Hen Nation, an “ethical egg” farm. 98 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:11,200 Hold on, you couldn’t see me because the image was up. An “ethical egg” farm. 99 00:07:12,500 --> 00:07:13,540 Let's proceed. 100 00:07:13,620 --> 00:07:19,080 Davies says, “I get so many emails from vegans about our eggs. One woman said she 101 00:07:19,090 --> 00:07:23,050 couldn’t sleep the night before trying them because she was so excited. “ 102 00:07:23,050 --> 00:07:28,110 Linda Turvey, who runs the Hen Heaven sanctuary says, “I get calls from all over the country. 103 00:07:28,110 --> 00:07:32,400 Virtually all the eggs are going to vegans or their friends and family. I recently got a call from 104 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:37,340 a new vegan who works out in the gym and wanted to order 80 eggs a week for protein." 105 00:07:37,340 --> 00:07:40,970 She also recalled one man from London who caught the train to Horsham, a bus to 106 00:07:40,970 --> 00:07:45,710 Henfield and then walked a mile and a half to the Sussex sanctuary just to get 107 00:07:45,710 --> 00:07:47,630 some eggs for his vegan daughter. 108 00:07:47,630 --> 00:07:51,110 Now if that’s not addict behavior, I don’t know what is. 109 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:55,520 I hope this video was helpful. If you want to learn more about eggs, check out the videos 110 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:59,400 below, including my egg video for kids. I’d love to hear your thoughts on the backyard 111 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:05,000 chicken debate and the veggan phenomenon. Let me know what you think in the comments. 112 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,440 If you liked this golden egg of a nugget, do give the video a thumbs up and share it 113 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:12,680 around to answer this oft-asked question. If you’re new here, I’d love to have you 114 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:17,000 as a subscriber. I put out fresh content covering all aspects of veganism every Monday, Wednesday, 115 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,550 and some Fridays. To help support Bite Size Vegan’s educational efforts, please see 116 00:08:20,550 --> 00:08:24,710 the support links below or click on the Nugget Army icon or the link in the sidebar. 117 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:29,580 Now go live vegan, stop eating sphincter food, and I’ll see you soon. 118 00:08:29,580 --> 00:08:34,500 That was my favorite part. “They avoid animal products. And they eat eggs.” 119 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:41,420 When you’re eating something that came out … of an animal… 120 00:08:42,660 --> 00:08:47,680 …the animal produced it. It’s literally… an animal product. 121 00:08:47,680 --> 00:08:54,600 It’s something that literally fell … out of an animal … 122 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,940 … I don’t understand how this is not connecting.