WEBVTT 00:00:01.013 --> 00:00:10.186 (The Plum Village Online Monastery) 00:00:38.768 --> 00:00:46.278 (Mindful online broadcasts like this) 00:00:46.617 --> 00:00:53.509 (are supported by viewers like you.) 00:00:54.849 --> 00:01:04.715 (Donate at: http:// pvom.org) 00:01:06.165 --> 00:01:15.124 (Thank you for your generosity.) 00:02:05.446 --> 00:02:14.430 (The Plum Village Online Monastery) NOTE Paragraph 00:02:17.000 --> 00:02:20.116 (Thay) Please come closer. 00:03:48.014 --> 00:03:53.420 (Thay) Today, we have a session of questions and answers. 00:03:54.514 --> 00:04:00.315 Those who have a question are invited to come and sit here. 00:04:03.906 --> 00:04:07.957 We will take turns to sit on this chair, 00:04:09.977 --> 00:04:15.377 so that everyone can see us before we ask the question. 00:04:18.725 --> 00:04:25.005 We know that a question, a good one, can benefit many people. 00:04:26.655 --> 00:04:31.937 Therefore, it would be more helpful to ask a question 00:04:31.937 --> 00:04:34.647 that has to do with the practice, 00:04:35.487 --> 00:04:39.637 to do with transformation and healing. 00:04:43.573 --> 00:04:47.449 You may like to write down your question on a piece of paper also, 00:04:47.449 --> 00:04:50.899 if you don't want to come up here. 00:04:50.899 --> 00:04:54.103 But looking from here is so beautiful! 00:04:55.363 --> 00:04:57.536 (Laughter) 00:04:59.513 --> 00:05:04.997 So those of us who already have a question, 00:05:05.275 --> 00:05:08.856 please come up and sit around here, 00:05:09.560 --> 00:05:13.766 and we will take turns to sit on the chair. 00:05:15.358 --> 00:05:19.658 The practice, according to the tradition: 00:05:23.114 --> 00:05:26.186 Before we ask a question, 00:05:26.764 --> 00:05:31.027 we breathe in and out three times with the sound of the bell, 00:05:31.323 --> 00:05:34.408 and everyone is breathing with us. 00:05:34.641 --> 00:05:36.703 Then, we take the microphone 00:05:36.703 --> 00:05:39.749 and we ask the question. 00:05:40.926 --> 00:05:45.042 And we know that a good question does not have to be very long. 00:05:45.350 --> 00:05:47.584 (Laughter) 00:05:49.108 --> 00:05:53.058 A question is not a statement. 00:05:53.929 --> 00:05:57.255 So please, those of us who have a question already, 00:05:57.590 --> 00:06:03.499 come and sit close to Thay and we will take turns. 00:06:04.092 --> 00:06:06.215 And if you have written a question, 00:06:06.215 --> 00:06:11.541 ask someone to bring it here to Brother Mountain, 00:06:11.915 --> 00:06:16.815 who is sitting to the left of Thay. 00:06:17.063 --> 00:06:23.223 From time to time, he will read from one of these questions. 00:06:33.760 --> 00:06:37.155 This is your opportunity, please come. 00:06:37.969 --> 00:06:39.591 (Thay laughing) 00:07:26.465 --> 00:07:33.555 Let us listen to the bell and breathe before you ask the first question. 00:07:39.774 --> 00:07:42.843 (Half Bell) 00:07:45.183 --> 00:07:52.787 (Bell) 00:08:07.141 --> 00:08:13.988 (Bell again) 00:08:27.847 --> 00:08:35.701 (Bell again) 00:08:54.537 --> 00:08:56.247 Hi, 00:08:58.576 --> 00:09:01.799 My question is: 00:09:03.512 --> 00:09:15.652 How do we do when we go back to our real home? 00:09:15.968 --> 00:09:20.187 This retreat has been really nice 00:09:23.684 --> 00:09:27.474 But when we go to our real home? 00:09:27.644 --> 00:09:31.224 What recommendations can you give us 00:09:31.373 --> 00:09:36.693 to bring at home and be every second of our lives? 00:09:37.777 --> 00:09:40.253 (Br. Mountain) Thay, the... 00:09:40.493 --> 00:09:44.753 (Thay) Please speak in the microphone. 00:09:46.701 --> 00:09:50.365 (Br. Mountain) If I understand correctly, the question is: 00:09:50.365 --> 00:09:53.345 "How to bring this practice into your daily life?" 00:09:54.075 --> 00:09:55.384 Yes? 00:09:55.724 --> 00:10:02.764 (Repeats question in Spanish) 00:10:10.900 --> 00:10:13.220 We just do it! 00:10:14.154 --> 00:10:16.369 (Laughter) 00:10:17.509 --> 00:10:24.692 Suppose when you turn on the water tap 00:10:25.529 --> 00:10:29.333 and you see the water flowing, 00:10:29.512 --> 00:10:34.142 you pay attention to the water. 00:10:34.488 --> 00:10:37.516 You tell yourself that it's wonderful, 00:10:37.516 --> 00:10:40.899 that the water has come to you, 00:10:41.141 --> 00:10:43.401 to your kitchen, to your bathroom, 00:10:43.481 --> 00:10:46.692 from high up in the mountains, 00:10:46.792 --> 00:10:51.772 from deep in the earth, 00:10:52.532 --> 00:10:57.872 and you feel grateful, you feel happy, 00:10:58.600 --> 00:11:01.004 because the water is there for you. 00:11:02.334 --> 00:11:06.982 That is how to apply the teaching of mindfulness 00:11:06.982 --> 00:11:08.828 in our daily life. 00:11:09.068 --> 00:11:12.318 When you brush your teeth, 00:11:12.688 --> 00:11:16.543 you may like to focus your attention on brushing your teeth, 00:11:16.980 --> 00:11:19.098 not thinking! 00:11:19.218 --> 00:11:25.884 Because you have the water, the toothpaste, the brush, 00:11:26.124 --> 00:11:29.610 and you still have teeth to brush! 00:11:30.530 --> 00:11:33.142 (Laughter) 00:11:35.676 --> 00:11:38.454 I am over 80 and every time I brush my teeth, 00:11:38.614 --> 00:11:40.146 I always say: 00:11:40.236 --> 00:11:45.380 "It's wonderful at this age to still have some teeth to brush!" 00:11:45.630 --> 00:11:47.416 (Laughter) 00:11:47.906 --> 00:11:52.560 And happiness can come right away. 00:11:53.052 --> 00:11:57.400 And when you cook your breakfast, do it mindfully. 00:11:57.556 --> 00:12:01.674 Pouring the water into the kettle, boiling the water, 00:12:01.874 --> 00:12:06.574 every moment can be a moment of joy. 00:12:08.952 --> 00:12:15.030 Laying the table, preparing your tea, 00:12:15.120 --> 00:12:19.164 everything you do can be the practice of mindfulness 00:12:19.274 --> 00:12:22.111 and can bring you joy, happiness. 00:12:22.291 --> 00:12:27.024 You are fully present in the here and the now! 00:12:27.190 --> 00:12:29.749 When you drive your car, you can drive it mindfully, 00:12:29.749 --> 00:12:33.669 and enjoy every minute of driving. 00:12:33.742 --> 00:12:36.992 When you walk from the parking lot to your school, 00:12:37.151 --> 00:12:40.284 you do the same. 00:12:40.924 --> 00:12:43.815 So just do it! 00:12:44.133 --> 00:12:49.353 And you have verses to memorize 00:12:49.503 --> 00:12:53.931 in order to brush your teeth, to sit down, 00:12:54.166 --> 00:12:57.459 to open your window. 00:12:57.749 --> 00:13:05.329 Every daily act can be accompanied by our breathing, 00:13:05.439 --> 00:13:10.429 our recitation of the verse. 00:13:11.674 --> 00:13:13.076 It's very convenient, 00:13:13.146 --> 00:13:16.890 because people who have come before us, 00:13:17.150 --> 00:13:22.771 they have prepared the practice for us. 00:13:22.960 --> 00:13:27.190 And walking in a railway station, walking at the airport, 00:13:27.575 --> 00:13:30.816 you can always enjoy walking meditation. 00:13:31.146 --> 00:13:38.336 You do not have to set up a separate time to do meditation. 00:13:40.740 --> 00:13:44.176 But one thing can be said: 00:13:44.742 --> 00:13:48.673 If you have a home to yourself, in your home town, 00:13:48.673 --> 00:13:57.203 you can create a group of practitioners, practicing together. 00:13:58.719 --> 00:14:03.647 Every weekend you come together, to enjoy walking together, 00:14:03.817 --> 00:14:08.810 sitting together, having tea together, 00:14:10.767 --> 00:14:13.916 sharing the practice together. 00:14:13.916 --> 00:14:16.051 That would be wonderful, 00:14:16.051 --> 00:14:23.772 because that community will help you to continue the practice for a long time. 00:14:23.826 --> 00:14:26.705 Otherwise you will be carried away 00:14:26.705 --> 00:14:31.450 and you'll abandon the practice after few weeks. 00:14:35.024 --> 00:14:36.672 Good luck! 00:14:36.912 --> 00:14:38.922 (Laughter) 00:14:53.004 --> 00:14:57.508 (Inaudible) 00:14:58.058 --> 00:15:01.096 (Half Bell) 00:15:01.440 --> 00:15:07.640 (Bell) 00:15:32.018 --> 00:15:34.925 ( Spanish) My question 00:15:36.014 --> 00:15:42.530 is about the subconscious, the store, the seeds, 00:15:44.233 --> 00:15:48.522 how mindfulness can help 00:15:49.228 --> 00:15:54.828 to stop the wrong consumption, the toxins, 00:15:56.127 --> 00:16:01.955 because our being is from the subconscious 00:16:02.990 --> 00:16:05.464 to consciousness. 00:16:05.699 --> 00:16:08.458 True consciousness. 00:16:10.051 --> 00:16:15.641 (Br. Mountain) There is too much echo, so I can't really understand. 00:16:22.014 --> 00:16:25.640 (Br. Mountain) Can you repeat the question? 00:16:27.159 --> 00:16:30.289 (Translating what Br. Mountain just said into Spanish for the lady) 00:16:30.795 --> 00:16:34.868 (Spanish )Yes, my question is... 00:16:34.868 --> 00:16:37.801 (Br. Mountain) How can mindfulness help... 00:16:37.801 --> 00:16:40.817 (Thay) You have to translate into English later. 00:16:40.937 --> 00:16:42.129 (Brother) Yes. 00:16:42.389 --> 00:16:49.129 (Spanish)... how mindfulness helps to bring out the subconscious, the mind, 00:16:50.791 --> 00:16:58.631 to stop the toxic seeds that are in the store consciousness. 00:16:59.102 --> 00:17:02.459 To know how to identify them. 00:17:02.940 --> 00:17:07.860 How mindfulness can not only plant the seeds, 00:17:08.557 --> 00:17:11.965 but stop the seeds that have already been planted. 00:17:12.351 --> 00:17:14.645 To be more aware 00:17:15.702 --> 00:17:19.456 of what is already inside. 00:17:27.986 --> 00:17:30.148 (Brother) The essence of the question is: 00:17:30.428 --> 00:17:34.213 How can mindfulness help transform the toxic seeds 00:17:34.430 --> 00:17:40.329 or the seeds of suffering that are in the store consciousness? 00:17:47.844 --> 00:17:52.630 Mindfulness can recognize... 00:17:54.514 --> 00:17:59.614 the manifestation of a seed. 00:18:02.971 --> 00:18:08.291 In fact, to be mindful is to be aware of what is going on. 00:18:11.780 --> 00:18:20.098 So from the depth of our consciousness, called the store consciousness, 00:18:20.388 --> 00:18:26.100 there are many seeds, good ones and negatives ones. 00:18:26.943 --> 00:18:37.361 And every time a good seed comes up to the level of the mind 00:18:38.842 --> 00:18:43.922 and you recognize it as a good mental formation, 00:18:45.077 --> 00:18:57.657 like joy, brotherhood, sisterhood, forgiveness, and so on. 00:18:58.642 --> 00:19:05.262 So mindfulness recognizes the good mental formation 00:19:05.402 --> 00:19:08.416 that has manifested. 00:19:08.866 --> 00:19:18.466 Mindfulness can help to keep it longer for your nourishment and healing. 00:19:18.935 --> 00:19:21.580 You continue to breathe or walk 00:19:21.720 --> 00:19:25.710 and maintain the energy of love, 00:19:25.760 --> 00:19:28.780 or happiness, or joy, or brotherhood, alive 00:19:28.970 --> 00:19:32.370 as long as you want. 00:19:33.183 --> 00:19:44.537 That is what you do when a good seed like love, forgiveness or joy, manifests. 00:19:44.703 --> 00:19:50.323 But when negative seed in you begins to manifest: 00:19:50.703 --> 00:19:55.183 fear, anger, sorrow, hate, violence. 00:19:55.744 --> 00:19:58.314 Then mindfulness helps you to recognize it: 00:19:58.414 --> 00:20:03.569 "Hello! Good morning my fear, I know you are there," 00:20:03.869 --> 00:20:06.459 "I will take good care of you!" 00:20:06.586 --> 00:20:11.426 So, the first thing mindfulness does is to recognize what is there. 00:20:12.892 --> 00:20:16.089 "Good morning my anger, I know you are there," 00:20:16.179 --> 00:20:18.719 "I will take good care of you!" 00:20:19.049 --> 00:20:23.428 And you breathe in and out mindfully, 00:20:23.758 --> 00:20:27.598 and continue to generate the energy of mindfulness, 00:20:27.598 --> 00:20:32.292 with which you embrace your fear, your anger. 00:20:33.140 --> 00:20:37.586 You are protected by the energy of mindfulness, 00:20:37.913 --> 00:20:40.813 because your fear, your anger, will not push you 00:20:40.943 --> 00:20:44.700 to do or say things that will cause damage 00:20:44.880 --> 00:20:47.150 to you and to the other person. 00:20:47.632 --> 00:20:49.512 So mindfulness protects you, 00:20:49.795 --> 00:20:53.687 if you know how to use the energy of mindfulness, 00:20:53.917 --> 00:20:58.269 to recognize and embrace your fear, your anger, tenderly, 00:20:58.429 --> 00:21:01.101 like a mother holding a baby. 00:21:01.591 --> 00:21:05.051 Then mindfulness can do more. 00:21:05.883 --> 00:21:11.083 Mindfulness can help you to look into that fear, that anger 00:21:11.463 --> 00:21:15.723 and see what kind of roots they have. 00:21:15.963 --> 00:21:20.855 It has come from somewhere, some wrong perceptions, 00:21:21.085 --> 00:21:23.387 something like that. 00:21:24.827 --> 00:21:29.780 With the practice of looking deeply into the fear, the anger, 00:21:30.010 --> 00:21:34.760 you can recognize the roots of your anger, of your fear, 00:21:35.190 --> 00:21:39.001 and you get an understanding of it. 00:21:39.928 --> 00:21:42.980 Your understanding of the roots of something 00:21:43.160 --> 00:21:45.740 will liberate you from it. 00:21:47.134 --> 00:21:49.738 So mindfulness can do many things. 00:21:50.640 --> 00:21:54.030 And the practice of mindful breathing, mindful walking 00:21:54.570 --> 00:21:58.357 can help generate the energy of mindfulness, 00:21:58.522 --> 00:22:03.582 with which you can nourish yourself, and you can heal yourself! 00:22:25.883 --> 00:22:28.802 (Half Bell) 00:22:31.427 --> 00:22:38.530 (Bell) 00:22:53.544 --> 00:22:56.062 My question is personal 00:22:56.450 --> 00:22:59.603 but it can help a lot of people. 00:23:00.157 --> 00:23:02.764 At this moment I am feeling a lot of pain 00:23:03.235 --> 00:23:06.568 because I am unable to follow what makes me happy, 00:23:06.739 --> 00:23:08.332 my style of life. 00:23:08.611 --> 00:23:10.667 What would be your message 00:23:10.827 --> 00:23:13.169 for the people who, as me, 00:23:13.369 --> 00:23:16.517 do want to follow a good path, a safe path 00:23:16.855 --> 00:23:19.828 who want to follow what makes us happy 00:23:20.853 --> 00:23:23.813 but we fight against a lot of negativity, 00:23:24.697 --> 00:23:27.241 messages of... insanity, 00:23:27.564 --> 00:23:30.841 but we feel that that is a wrong path. 00:23:31.141 --> 00:23:33.071 Thank you. 00:23:41.623 --> 00:23:45.168 (Br. Mountain) The question is: 00:23:45.370 --> 00:23:50.330 How can we find a new path for society? 00:23:50.604 --> 00:23:52.896 How can we find a new path NOTE Paragraph 00:23:53.146 --> 00:23:58.440 and nourish our aspiration in this society? 00:23:58.840 --> 00:24:01.579 And what would be Thay's message for young people? 00:24:01.689 --> 00:24:04.313 What would be Thay's encouragement for young people... 00:24:04.443 --> 00:24:09.316 considering the society is not a very healthy place? NOTE Paragraph 00:24:09.426 --> 00:24:13.206 What can we do? 00:24:24.486 --> 00:24:30.662 When we look at an adult 00:24:34.682 --> 00:24:41.312 and see that that person is not happy, 00:24:49.078 --> 00:24:59.994 we cannot believe what that person tells us about happiness, 00:25:00.624 --> 00:25:03.524 or the path leading to happiness. 00:25:04.684 --> 00:25:06.751 Because if the path is correct, 00:25:06.951 --> 00:25:13.321 then the person would not be the way he or she is! 00:25:14.559 --> 00:25:23.109 So what that person recommends us to do may not work. 00:25:27.346 --> 00:25:34.445 Sometimes they recommend us to do something, 00:25:34.615 --> 00:25:38.655 but they don't do it themselves! 00:25:40.545 --> 00:25:44.368 So we have to be careful. 00:25:47.706 --> 00:25:50.249 So we can... 00:25:53.029 --> 00:25:59.499 we can make a decision based on our own experience. 00:26:03.989 --> 00:26:08.209 Whatever you do that brings you true happiness, 00:26:08.339 --> 00:26:09.876 you believe that. 00:26:09.926 --> 00:26:12.636 That is the right thing to do. 00:26:13.190 --> 00:26:22.152 What you say can bring you happiness and can bring the other person happiness. 00:26:23.002 --> 00:26:26.048 We can believe in that kind of thing, 00:26:27.438 --> 00:26:30.462 and you can continue to say things like that. 00:26:30.462 --> 00:26:36.442 So it's much safer to base it on our own experience of life. 00:26:38.597 --> 00:26:48.377 I think the first thing is to have a correct idea about happiness, 00:26:49.908 --> 00:26:53.678 because everyone has an idea of happiness. 00:26:55.259 --> 00:27:02.009 Our idea of happiness may be the obstacle for our true happiness. 00:27:03.990 --> 00:27:10.295 So you have to look, look deeply, 00:27:11.015 --> 00:27:14.345 and have your own idea of happiness. 00:27:17.937 --> 00:27:25.757 Many people believe that power, fame, diplomas, 00:27:30.504 --> 00:27:33.434 money, sensual pleasures, 00:27:34.745 --> 00:27:36.824 can make you happy. 00:27:37.344 --> 00:27:39.189 But when you observe, 00:27:39.549 --> 00:27:41.186 you can see that many people... 00:27:41.406 --> 00:27:44.216 who have plenty of these things still suffer a lot. 00:27:45.780 --> 00:27:47.962 So you don't believe it. 00:27:48.472 --> 00:27:53.922 You feel that when you have understanding and love in you, 00:27:55.562 --> 00:27:58.312 you are happy. 00:27:59.299 --> 00:28:03.049 You look around, you see people who are not so rich, 00:28:03.649 --> 00:28:05.235 who are not powerful, 00:28:05.395 --> 00:28:08.985 but who have plenty of understanding and compassion. 00:28:09.615 --> 00:28:11.415 You see them happy. 00:28:11.775 --> 00:28:14.765 So you tell yourself: that's what I want! 00:28:16.425 --> 00:28:19.335 I want to be happy like him, like her, 00:28:19.865 --> 00:28:23.135 and in order to do that, 00:28:23.755 --> 00:28:28.565 I have to cultivate more understanding and compassion... 00:28:29.611 --> 00:28:31.267 and love. 00:28:31.897 --> 00:28:35.041 Because it's very difficult to live with a person 00:28:35.181 --> 00:28:38.337 who cannot understand you. 00:28:39.267 --> 00:28:41.796 You see? Very frustrating! 00:28:43.206 --> 00:28:45.955 So you don't want to be like him, like her. 00:28:46.645 --> 00:28:51.535 You want to be a person who has a lot of understanding. 00:28:52.381 --> 00:28:56.070 It's very pleasant to be with someone who can understand you. 00:28:57.390 --> 00:29:01.510 And to understand is a power. 00:29:04.659 --> 00:29:07.813 Not money - understanding is a power. 00:29:09.273 --> 00:29:12.770 When you love someone, if you understand him or her, 00:29:13.320 --> 00:29:15.288 you are a true lover. 00:29:15.768 --> 00:29:18.797 So cultivating understanding is a practice. 00:29:19.607 --> 00:29:22.553 If you do not have the time to look deeply, 00:29:22.663 --> 00:29:25.302 you cannot understand. 00:29:25.422 --> 00:29:31.292 You have to understand first of all the suffering in you and the other person. 00:29:33.765 --> 00:29:37.284 So cultivating understanding is very important. 00:29:38.044 --> 00:29:43.924 When you have understood, love and compassion are born. 00:29:45.649 --> 00:29:48.709 And love is another kind of power. 00:29:49.139 --> 00:29:51.903 Love has the power to heal. 00:29:53.673 --> 00:29:56.732 When you have true love in you, you can heal yourself 00:29:56.922 --> 00:30:00.145 and you can help to heal the other person. 00:30:00.885 --> 00:30:06.781 So understanding and love are two powers 00:30:07.871 --> 00:30:12.161 and with them you can create happiness, 00:30:15.241 --> 00:30:19.081 restore communication, reconcile. 00:30:25.318 --> 00:30:28.834 You are determined to go in that direction, 00:30:29.694 --> 00:30:35.914 not running after fame, power, money, sensual pleasures, 00:30:36.334 --> 00:30:41.460 but taking your time to cultivate more understanding 00:30:42.310 --> 00:30:44.596 and love and compassion. 00:30:45.106 --> 00:30:49.496 Even if you live a very simple life, 00:30:50.336 --> 00:30:54.211 you can be a very happy person. 00:30:55.791 --> 00:31:01.477 I think the young people have the power to do it. 00:31:02.317 --> 00:31:07.569 They don't have to follow any tradition. 00:31:08.789 --> 00:31:11.176 They can find their own way. 00:31:15.140 --> 00:31:18.970 They can practice true love, true understanding, 00:31:18.970 --> 00:31:20.806 brotherhood, sisterhood, 00:31:20.806 --> 00:31:26.156 in order to make themselves happy and to stop suffering. 00:31:27.354 --> 00:31:34.464 If they can succeed, they can inspire many people to do the same. 00:31:57.766 --> 00:32:01.276 (Half Bell) 00:32:02.925 --> 00:32:10.202 (Bell) 00:32:27.989 --> 00:32:31.339 (Man) First I would like to thank you, Thay, 00:32:31.479 --> 00:32:34.479 on behalf of everyone 00:32:34.601 --> 00:32:37.601 (inaudible) 00:32:44.194 --> 00:32:45.823 English or Spanish? 00:32:46.013 --> 00:32:47.133 (Br. Mountain) Both. 00:32:47.713 --> 00:32:50.713 (Man replying but inaudible) 00:32:55.518 --> 00:32:59.048 (Man asking question, inaudible due to echo) 00:32:59.338 --> 00:33:04.248 ...Mindfulness speaking, mindfulness walking... 00:33:06.238 --> 00:33:08.878 mindfulness eating... 00:33:10.078 --> 00:33:13.788 But the last few days you spoke about... 00:33:14.558 --> 00:33:16.948 (Laughing) 00:33:18.668 --> 00:33:21.938 Mindfulness (Spanish) "of suffering" 00:33:23.928 --> 00:33:26.908 ....the minfulness of suffering. 00:33:27.128 --> 00:33:31.601 (Spanish) For me, that is a little more difficult. 00:33:32.357 --> 00:33:37.289 (Spanish) To be mindful of the suffering 00:33:38.379 --> 00:33:41.379 to avoid (inaudible). 00:33:41.710 --> 00:33:44.450 So Thay, I would like to ask you. 00:33:44.650 --> 00:33:48.426 Could you explain a little bit more about mindfulness of suffering? 00:33:48.616 --> 00:33:51.834 Because I find this very difficult, 00:33:51.984 --> 00:33:56.884 because it sometimes generates a negative state of mind. 00:34:00.828 --> 00:34:03.784 (Brother) The essence of the question is 00:34:03.904 --> 00:34:07.241 that Thay has spoken about different types of mindfulness practices, 00:34:07.421 --> 00:34:11.233 and Thay has also spoken about mindfulness of suffering. 00:34:11.443 --> 00:34:14.413 When our friend practices mindfulness of suffering, 00:34:14.533 --> 00:34:19.035 it brings up negative feelings or thoughts or emotions. 00:34:19.333 --> 00:34:20.831 (Man) Towards myself. 00:34:20.891 --> 00:34:23.091 (Brother) For yourself? (Man) Yes. 00:34:23.311 --> 00:34:26.783 (Brother) So how to work with the mindfulness of suffering, 00:34:26.893 --> 00:34:28.211 how to practice? 00:34:28.361 --> 00:34:30.021 (Man) Clarify the practice. 00:34:30.171 --> 00:34:33.219 (Brother) If Thay can clarify what it means 00:34:33.830 --> 00:34:36.187 by working with mindfulness of suffering. 00:34:38.070 --> 00:34:42.980 (Thay) Mindfulness of suffering is a very important practice. 00:34:48.241 --> 00:34:54.001 Mindfulness, first of all, is the kind of energy that helps you 00:34:54.461 --> 00:34:57.374 to know what is going on. 00:34:59.184 --> 00:35:02.037 When suffering is coming up, 00:35:02.505 --> 00:35:05.825 you should know that suffering is there. 00:35:06.727 --> 00:35:10.454 That is mindfulness of suffering. 00:35:10.948 --> 00:35:14.664 Most of us do not want to do it, 00:35:15.517 --> 00:35:21.997 because we feel that when we get in touch with the suffering inside, 00:35:22.367 --> 00:35:26.644 we will be overwhelmed by it. 00:35:28.016 --> 00:35:32.862 So everyone is trying to run away from their own suffering. 00:35:35.718 --> 00:35:39.605 They try to cover up the suffering inside. 00:35:40.287 --> 00:35:43.906 When you pick up a newspaper to read, 00:35:44.593 --> 00:35:47.167 when you turn on your television, 00:35:47.491 --> 00:35:50.398 maybe it's not because you need to do that, 00:35:50.788 --> 00:35:53.770 but you do that in order not to have to get in touch 00:35:53.930 --> 00:35:56.214 with the suffering inside. 00:35:57.102 --> 00:36:01.910 So pick up the phone and talk to someone, 00:36:02.210 --> 00:36:04.601 take the car and go out, 00:36:05.414 --> 00:36:10.794 we do many things in order not be in touch with the suffering inside. 00:36:13.672 --> 00:36:18.463 The suffering inside remains the same and continues to grow, 00:36:19.942 --> 00:36:24.928 because you do not know how to take care of suffering inside 00:36:25.108 --> 00:36:27.090 and how to transform it. 00:36:27.544 --> 00:36:32.540 So mindfulness of suffering is first of all to have the courage... 00:36:32.780 --> 00:36:37.130 to go home to yourself and recognize that suffering is there. 00:36:40.266 --> 00:36:43.921 And then, as I have said several times, 00:36:45.141 --> 00:36:49.409 you can use the energy of mindfulness to embrace your suffering, 00:36:49.409 --> 00:36:51.420 your fear, your anger. 00:36:51.960 --> 00:36:55.250 If you know how to do it, then you will suffer less. 00:36:56.739 --> 00:36:59.403 It's like a mother holding her baby, 00:36:59.573 --> 00:37:03.396 the baby suffers less after a few minutes. 00:37:06.041 --> 00:37:09.361 I have also said that if you are a beginner, 00:37:09.731 --> 00:37:15.611 you may like to borrow the energy of mindfulness of someone else 00:37:15.741 --> 00:37:19.439 in order to help you to embrace your suffering. 00:37:21.461 --> 00:37:24.143 Three or four people sitting with you, 00:37:24.333 --> 00:37:26.151 breathing with you, 00:37:26.391 --> 00:37:29.209 and offering their energy of mindfulness, 00:37:29.799 --> 00:37:33.575 to help you to recognize and embrace the pain in yourself. 00:37:33.955 --> 00:37:36.723 That is brotherhood, sisterhood. 00:37:37.653 --> 00:37:42.523 If you live in the heart of a practice community, 00:37:43.173 --> 00:37:46.615 you profit from the collective energy of mindfulness, 00:37:46.615 --> 00:37:49.272 of the community. 00:37:53.930 --> 00:37:56.318 We have learnt a very important thing: 00:37:56.318 --> 00:37:59.300 if you know how to suffer, 00:38:00.324 --> 00:38:03.228 you suffer much less. 00:38:05.202 --> 00:38:09.180 That is an art, to suffer is an art. 00:38:10.080 --> 00:38:12.216 Everyone has to suffer, 00:38:12.716 --> 00:38:14.892 including the Buddha, 00:38:15.182 --> 00:38:17.280 including Jesus Christ. 00:38:17.788 --> 00:38:20.626 But those of us who know how to suffer, 00:38:20.726 --> 00:38:23.326 we suffer much, much less. 00:38:29.314 --> 00:38:31.460 We have to learn. 00:38:32.722 --> 00:38:37.450 If you have the energy of mindfulness, you can go back to yourself. 00:38:38.512 --> 00:38:43.684 You are not afraid of being overwhelmed by the suffering inside. 00:38:48.610 --> 00:38:52.460 With that energy of mindfulness, you can embrace your suffering. 00:38:53.100 --> 00:38:55.967 Even smile to your suffering, 00:38:56.954 --> 00:38:58.952 as a mother holding her child. 00:38:59.052 --> 00:39:01.228 If you know how to do that, 00:39:01.318 --> 00:39:04.237 in three, five or eight minutes, you suffer less. 00:39:06.086 --> 00:39:10.260 The energy of mindfulness is holding the energy of anger, 00:39:10.260 --> 00:39:12.570 of fear, of despair. 00:39:13.468 --> 00:39:15.296 Two kinds of energy. 00:39:15.296 --> 00:39:18.462 They are not fighting each other, 00:39:18.920 --> 00:39:22.518 but one is holding the other. 00:39:22.628 --> 00:39:26.717 Very non-violently, very tenderly. 00:39:28.318 --> 00:39:32.065 That is what everyone should learn, 00:39:32.065 --> 00:39:38.375 it is possible to embrace our pain tenderly, 00:39:38.535 --> 00:39:40.327 with compassion. 00:39:41.075 --> 00:39:46.722 That helps you to get a relief after a few minutes of practice. 00:39:47.105 --> 00:39:54.101 So we should remember that someone who knows how to suffer, 00:39:54.377 --> 00:39:56.884 will suffer much less. 00:39:58.098 --> 00:40:00.736 And then he can go further, 00:40:00.976 --> 00:40:03.484 he can make good use of suffering 00:40:03.484 --> 00:40:08.772 in order to create understanding, compassion and happiness. 00:40:10.924 --> 00:40:17.610 Suffering has a role to play in creating happiness. 00:40:20.252 --> 00:40:24.431 It's like when you grow lotus flowers, you need the mud. 00:40:26.112 --> 00:40:29.489 Without the mud, lotus flowers cannot grow. 00:40:30.289 --> 00:40:32.597 It's the same with happiness. 00:40:32.597 --> 00:40:35.071 Happiness is a kind of lotus 00:40:35.651 --> 00:40:40.374 and it needs some kind of mud, in order to grow. 00:40:42.311 --> 00:40:45.043 The process is like this: 00:40:45.043 --> 00:40:47.167 there is suffering, 00:40:48.227 --> 00:40:55.077 and there is mindfulness that can look deeply... 00:40:55.077 --> 00:40:58.057 into the nature of suffering. 00:40:59.013 --> 00:41:02.899 We listen, we look deeply, 00:41:02.899 --> 00:41:08.229 and from that kind of practice, called mindfulness of suffering, 00:41:08.237 --> 00:41:13.007 understanding and compassion are born. 00:41:13.767 --> 00:41:17.493 Understanding of suffering, 00:41:18.233 --> 00:41:23.372 compassion coming out of that kind of understanding. 00:41:25.911 --> 00:41:31.943 Understanding and compassion are the very foundation of happiness. 00:41:33.743 --> 00:41:37.583 We know that understanding and compassion come from the mud, 00:41:39.359 --> 00:41:41.709 come from suffering. 00:41:42.489 --> 00:41:47.059 So there is a very deep connection between suffering and happiness, 00:41:48.519 --> 00:41:52.775 like the connection between the mud and the lotus. 00:41:53.977 --> 00:41:58.414 If you try always to run away from suffering, 00:41:58.544 --> 00:42:01.073 you have no chance. 00:42:01.516 --> 00:42:06.847 You have to see the goodness of suffering. 00:42:09.514 --> 00:42:14.594 The goodness of suffering - (French) la bienfaisance de la suffrance. 00:42:15.470 --> 00:42:21.163 It's like the mud, the mud is essential for the lotus. 00:42:22.470 --> 00:42:29.128 So suffering is essential for the making of understanding and love, 00:42:29.858 --> 00:42:33.278 which are the very foundation of happiness. 00:42:34.031 --> 00:42:37.579 When you have seen that you have Right View. 00:42:38.749 --> 00:42:45.025 Right View is the first element of the Noble Path leading to happiness. 00:42:46.009 --> 00:42:51.021 You don't have any discrimination any more. 00:42:51.971 --> 00:42:57.011 You know that there is a deep connection between suffering and happiness. 00:42:58.611 --> 00:43:03.569 If you know how to make good use of suffering, 00:43:04.109 --> 00:43:08.462 you can create a lot of understanding and compassion 00:43:08.887 --> 00:43:12.757 that can create happiness in you and in the other person. 00:43:13.859 --> 00:43:17.579 So there are two things we have to remember concerning suffering: 00:43:18.559 --> 00:43:21.684 if you know how to suffer, you suffer less; 00:43:22.887 --> 00:43:25.991 if you know how to make good use of suffering, 00:43:26.101 --> 00:43:28.411 you can create happiness. 00:43:29.101 --> 00:43:33.470 That is why mindfulness of suffering is very, very important. 00:43:33.640 --> 00:43:37.458 We should not try to run away from suffering, 00:43:37.738 --> 00:43:40.916 pretending that it's not there. 00:43:42.406 --> 00:43:46.986 In our civilization, most people do that. 00:43:48.240 --> 00:43:52.666 They pretend that there is no suffering 00:43:53.266 --> 00:43:58.826 and they buy, they consume, in order to cover up the suffering inside. 00:44:01.716 --> 00:44:05.014 We consume not because we need to consume. 00:44:06.454 --> 00:44:11.768 There are people who go to look for something to eat, 00:44:13.146 --> 00:44:16.469 but they are not hungry at all. 00:44:19.042 --> 00:44:23.052 They eat because they want to forget the suffering inside. 00:44:23.532 --> 00:44:25.304 Eating is one way, 00:44:27.392 --> 00:44:31.808 one of the ways to help us to run away 00:44:32.380 --> 00:44:37.387 and not to have to confront, to get in touch with the suffering. 00:44:40.543 --> 00:44:43.553 We can practice by ourselves, 00:44:44.173 --> 00:44:49.813 but if we have a community of practice supporting us, 00:44:51.233 --> 00:45:01.435 the practice of mindfulness of suffering can be easier, 00:45:03.475 --> 00:45:09.179 because we have brothers and sisters in the practice supporting us. 00:45:10.451 --> 00:45:13.597 They provide understanding and compassion, 00:45:13.887 --> 00:45:16.475 and with that kind of collective energy, 00:45:16.665 --> 00:45:22.097 we can easily recognize and embrace our suffering. 00:45:24.639 --> 00:45:26.045 Clear? 00:45:26.165 --> 00:45:27.654 (Laughter) 00:45:27.694 --> 00:45:29.564 Thank you. 00:45:32.972 --> 00:45:37.262 We'll read from one written question. 00:45:42.473 --> 00:45:44.163 Bell, the bell. 00:45:44.784 --> 00:45:46.078 (Laughter) 00:45:46.258 --> 00:45:48.464 (Half Bell) 00:45:51.541 --> 00:45:59.329 (Bell) 00:46:14.858 --> 00:46:19.447 (Br. Mountain) "The errors of the past have caused a lot of suffering" 00:46:19.557 --> 00:46:21.905 "and are very difficult to liberate." 00:46:21.955 --> 00:46:26.584 "My errors have created in the past quite a heavy burden." 00:46:26.884 --> 00:46:30.843 "How can I forgive myself for this pain I've caused" 00:46:31.333 --> 00:46:35.303 "and how to be sure that I've forgiven others?" 00:46:36.181 --> 00:46:39.950 "What can I do if I offer forgiveness and reconciliation" 00:46:40.040 --> 00:46:41.696 "again and again to others," 00:46:41.786 --> 00:46:45.402 "but the others don't respond positively" 00:46:45.482 --> 00:46:49.135 "and they keep the door closed?" 00:47:00.468 --> 00:47:02.511 This is a very good question. 00:47:03.391 --> 00:47:05.478 (Laughter) 00:47:15.007 --> 00:47:26.743 First of all, everyone can learn from their own mistakes, unskillfulness. 00:47:27.803 --> 00:47:31.373 All of us are unskillful at times. 00:47:35.915 --> 00:47:38.009 Even the Buddha as a teacher, 00:47:38.179 --> 00:47:40.616 he was unskillful at times, 00:47:40.806 --> 00:47:43.734 and he learnt from his unskillfulness. 00:47:55.754 --> 00:47:58.062 (Laughter) 00:48:01.373 --> 00:48:07.567 So first of all, we should remember that we are a human being, 00:48:08.427 --> 00:48:11.757 and we can be unskillful at times. 00:48:17.857 --> 00:48:22.439 The practice of mindfulness can always transform, 00:48:24.451 --> 00:48:27.355 even transform the past. 00:48:29.541 --> 00:48:32.127 You think that the past is already gone 00:48:32.237 --> 00:48:35.425 and you can't do anything concerning the past, 00:48:36.258 --> 00:48:38.489 but that is not true. 00:48:38.869 --> 00:48:40.963 You can change the past, 00:48:41.633 --> 00:48:45.454 because the past is still there in the present. 00:48:46.334 --> 00:48:49.845 The wound of the past is still there in the present moment 00:48:50.275 --> 00:48:52.605 and you can touch it. 00:48:54.695 --> 00:49:01.145 Suppose in the past you have said something unkind to your grandma, 00:49:06.078 --> 00:49:08.590 and now you regret it. 00:49:09.230 --> 00:49:13.880 Your grandma is no longer there for you to say sorry. 00:49:18.721 --> 00:49:22.741 You have that complex of guilt following you all the time, 00:49:24.602 --> 00:49:28.094 but according to this practice, you can do something. 00:49:31.424 --> 00:49:34.239 You breathe in and out mindfully, 00:49:34.359 --> 00:49:39.679 and you recognize that your grandma is still alive in every cell of your body. 00:49:40.981 --> 00:49:43.446 You continue your grandma. 00:49:44.296 --> 00:49:46.586 That is the truth. 00:49:46.867 --> 00:49:50.307 The genes of your grandma are in you. 00:49:52.565 --> 00:49:56.543 Your grandma has not really died. 00:49:57.163 --> 00:49:59.551 She continues in you. 00:50:00.311 --> 00:50:05.041 So having seen your grandma in you, you say: 00:50:05.241 --> 00:50:06.893 "Grandma, I am sorry." 00:50:09.987 --> 00:50:12.175 "I was not skillful." 00:50:13.065 --> 00:50:15.753 "I promise you that from now on," 00:50:15.943 --> 00:50:19.683 "I will never say something like that again." 00:50:22.199 --> 00:50:27.629 And if you are sincere, mindful, determined, 00:50:29.345 --> 00:50:32.571 then you can see your grandma in you, smiling, 00:50:33.431 --> 00:50:36.289 and you are healed, you are healed. 00:50:37.769 --> 00:50:40.559 So you can transform the past. 00:50:41.945 --> 00:50:46.493 You make an aspiration, a strong aspiration, 00:50:47.523 --> 00:50:51.301 that from now on, you will not say things like that any more. 00:50:51.461 --> 00:50:54.223 You will not do things like that any more. 00:50:54.553 --> 00:50:56.939 That is a powerful energy, 00:50:57.439 --> 00:51:01.709 that can transform even the past and you feel lighter. Lighter! 00:51:12.723 --> 00:51:16.581 During the Vietnam war, there was an American soldier 00:51:18.141 --> 00:51:21.301 who killed five children in Vietnam. 00:51:26.567 --> 00:51:34.193 His unit was destroyed by the guerillas, 00:51:35.133 --> 00:51:37.781 so he was very angry. 00:51:38.161 --> 00:51:40.271 He came back to that village, 00:51:40.941 --> 00:51:43.115 looking for a way to retaliate. 00:51:44.534 --> 00:51:47.769 He brought with him a bag of sandwiches, 00:51:51.924 --> 00:51:55.059 and he put explosives in the sandwich. 00:51:56.507 --> 00:51:59.870 He left them by the gate of the village. 00:52:00.760 --> 00:52:04.860 He hid himself and he saw five children coming out, 00:52:06.020 --> 00:52:08.681 and enjoying eating the sandwiches. 00:52:09.061 --> 00:52:13.922 After that, the children showed the signs of sickness 00:52:14.042 --> 00:52:16.653 and they cried, they yelled, 00:52:16.923 --> 00:52:20.575 and their mothers came out and tried to help. 00:52:21.655 --> 00:52:24.586 But the soldier knew that nothing could be done, 00:52:25.826 --> 00:52:29.356 because the village was so far from a city. 00:52:31.748 --> 00:52:37.298 He saw the five children dying in the arms of their mothers. 00:52:40.564 --> 00:52:44.794 The soldier survived the war and went back to America. 00:52:46.610 --> 00:52:49.020 He could no longer sleep. 00:52:51.598 --> 00:52:56.742 Every time he found himself with a few children in the same room, 00:52:57.512 --> 00:53:00.342 he could not stand it, he had to run out of the room. 00:53:02.083 --> 00:53:05.535 He could not share the story with anyone, 00:53:05.975 --> 00:53:07.525 until one day, 00:53:12.797 --> 00:53:17.434 we offered a retreat for war veterans in California, 00:53:19.200 --> 00:53:21.512 and he came. 00:53:23.000 --> 00:53:29.410 After four days of practice, he got enough trust. 00:53:31.667 --> 00:53:38.447 During the sharing, he told us the story, crying a lot. 00:53:44.693 --> 00:53:46.823 I was in the group. 00:53:48.707 --> 00:53:52.127 I promised to give him a consultation. 00:53:55.699 --> 00:54:00.420 I told him: "Daniel, you have killed five children." 00:54:01.750 --> 00:54:03.530 "That is the truth." 00:54:04.496 --> 00:54:06.543 "And you suffer." 00:54:07.076 --> 00:54:09.943 "But now there are other children who are dying" 00:54:11.428 --> 00:54:15.028 "in Africa, in Asia, in many countries," 00:54:15.938 --> 00:54:18.939 "and even in America, children are dying." 00:54:19.559 --> 00:54:21.580 "There are poor people." 00:54:22.040 --> 00:54:26.154 "There are children who only need one tablet of medicine" 00:54:27.024 --> 00:54:29.834 "in order for their life to be saved." 00:54:30.287 --> 00:54:34.058 "Thousands and thousands of children like that are dying all over the world." 00:54:34.848 --> 00:54:41.438 "If you make the aspiration to go to them, every day you can save five children." 00:54:42.766 --> 00:54:47.816 "You don't have to lie down in the corner of the past" 00:54:48.346 --> 00:54:50.266 "and suffer like that." 00:54:50.356 --> 00:54:52.709 "If in the past you have killed five children," 00:54:52.889 --> 00:54:55.641 "then today, you can save five." 00:54:55.721 --> 00:54:59.065 "If you can save five today, five tomorrow," 00:54:59.235 --> 00:55:03.763 "then you can see the five you killed begin to smile in you" 00:55:03.903 --> 00:55:06.533 "and you are healed." 00:55:07.669 --> 00:55:11.459 So he followed those instructions. 00:55:13.487 --> 00:55:17.875 I could see the transformation and healing taking place 00:55:18.725 --> 00:55:22.655 right during the time he listened to the advice, 00:55:23.515 --> 00:55:26.199 because during the time he listened to me, 00:55:26.369 --> 00:55:28.253 he made that vow: 00:55:28.613 --> 00:55:31.623 "I will go out and try to save children." 00:55:32.023 --> 00:55:34.687 "I am young enough to do the work." 00:55:36.237 --> 00:55:41.241 The tremendous amount of energy given to him by that aspiration... 00:55:42.081 --> 00:55:44.811 began to heal him right away. 00:55:45.727 --> 00:55:50.877 After that he practiced helping children in the world to survive. 00:55:56.073 --> 00:55:58.203 He was healed. 00:55:58.653 --> 00:56:02.393 He married a dentist in England 00:56:03.303 --> 00:56:05.382 and lead a normal life. 00:56:06.102 --> 00:56:08.462 This is a real story. 00:56:09.836 --> 00:56:16.927 So the fact is that you can liberate yourself from the past, 00:56:17.167 --> 00:56:19.437 from the prison of the past. 00:56:20.820 --> 00:56:27.030 You can make a strong determination, a strong aspiration, to go and help: 00:56:27.850 --> 00:56:30.716 to help the people who are abused, 00:56:30.788 --> 00:56:34.278 to help the people who are victims of sexual abuse, and so on. 00:56:35.778 --> 00:56:38.148 And then you can heal yourself. 00:56:40.306 --> 00:56:45.646 That is the power of aspiration - the [third] nutriment we call "volition." 00:56:50.162 --> 00:56:53.722 If you have transformation and healing in you, 00:56:56.408 --> 00:56:59.546 you become a pleasant person, 00:57:00.444 --> 00:57:03.404 you are full of compassion, understanding, 00:57:04.354 --> 00:57:10.179 and your presence is very fresh, 00:57:11.179 --> 00:57:13.890 very pleasant for other people. 00:57:14.580 --> 00:57:20.210 If you propose to him or to her the practice of reconciliation 00:57:21.510 --> 00:57:24.406 and if the other person refuses to do it, 00:57:25.226 --> 00:57:27.544 it's because you are not fresh enough, 00:57:27.632 --> 00:57:30.510 you have not healed yourself enough. 00:57:32.802 --> 00:57:37.572 You have to show yourself as someone who has transformed, 00:57:38.252 --> 00:57:42.170 who has healed himself, or herself. 00:57:45.598 --> 00:57:51.228 The healing in you will help start the healing in the other person. 00:57:52.284 --> 00:57:54.460 There are many ways. 00:57:56.830 --> 00:58:00.838 You can write him or her a letter of love. 00:58:02.048 --> 00:58:07.138 You can ask a friend to talk to him or her on your behalf. 00:58:11.172 --> 00:58:13.662 There are many ways to do it. 00:58:16.180 --> 00:58:20.680 If you have already reconciled with yourself, 00:58:21.878 --> 00:58:25.566 renewed yourself to become a new person, 00:58:25.796 --> 00:58:29.538 then transforming him, reconciling with him, 00:58:29.788 --> 00:58:31.729 becomes much easier. 00:58:32.259 --> 00:58:38.327 If you still find it difficult to invite the other person to reconcile, 00:58:38.546 --> 00:58:43.057 it's because you have not started the process of reconciliation from within. 00:58:45.007 --> 00:58:48.624 If you have, then you have healed yourself. 00:58:49.844 --> 00:58:55.914 Then it will be much easier to help him to reconcile, 00:58:56.914 --> 00:58:59.362 with himself and with you. 00:59:01.605 --> 00:59:03.000 OK? 00:59:03.690 --> 00:59:05.530 (Br. Mountain) Thank you, Thay. 00:59:22.778 --> 00:59:25.064 (Half Bell) 00:59:28.938 --> 00:59:36.129 (Bell) 01:00:00.207 --> 01:00:01.403 Well... 01:00:01.865 --> 01:00:03.836 (Spanish) Sorry, in Spanish. 01:00:06.503 --> 01:00:11.057 First, I would like to thank you, 01:00:11.565 --> 01:00:14.207 because until yesterday, 01:00:14.972 --> 01:00:21.966 I thought I was practising mindful listening properly, 01:00:23.351 --> 01:00:26.526 just because I tried to listen to every word 01:00:26.758 --> 01:00:29.259 that the other person was saying. 01:00:29.566 --> 01:00:31.825 Yesterday I understood 01:00:32.065 --> 01:00:34.660 that my practice was not right, 01:00:34.906 --> 01:00:38.069 because no matter how hard I tried to listen, 01:00:38.292 --> 01:00:41.166 if I did not add compassion, 01:00:41.627 --> 01:00:46.785 the practice was not going to improve. 01:00:48.503 --> 01:00:50.735 I thank you for that. 01:00:51.028 --> 01:00:53.433 My question has nothing to do with myself, 01:00:53.926 --> 01:00:55.807 it has to do with my daughter. 01:00:56.128 --> 01:00:58.006 She is 3 years old. 01:00:58.965 --> 01:01:06.832 I wish she will not need to be 35 to begin to practice mindfulness, 01:01:07.294 --> 01:01:09.898 as it happened to her mother. 01:01:10.057 --> 01:01:12.926 I want to begin to practice with her, 01:01:13.165 --> 01:01:16.970 but everyone tells me that she is still too young. 01:01:17.367 --> 01:01:23.011 I see that children live more in the present moment than us, adults. 01:01:23.470 --> 01:01:26.365 But they do it for short periods. 01:01:27.027 --> 01:01:31.268 I don't want to begin with formal practices too early, 01:01:35.059 --> 01:01:39.825 because it would not be appropriate for her age. 01:01:40.380 --> 01:01:44.929 Is there a good age 01:01:45.114 --> 01:01:49.565 to begin the practice of mindfulness with children? 01:01:53.658 --> 01:01:58.667 (Br. Mountain) So I will try to touch the essence of the question. 01:01:58.857 --> 01:02:01.388 She has a daughter who is 3 years old 01:02:01.588 --> 01:02:04.414 and she would like to teach her mindfulness 01:02:04.564 --> 01:02:08.292 and start already with the seed of mindfulness at that age, 01:02:08.392 --> 01:02:13.902 and not wait until her daughter is 35 to start the practice of mindfulness. 01:02:14.052 --> 01:02:19.862 So is there any good age to start teaching mindfulness to children? 01:02:20.022 --> 01:02:25.412 Some people say she's too young for me to teach her mindfulness. 01:02:25.692 --> 01:02:27.548 She's only 3 years old. 01:02:27.778 --> 01:02:31.428 Is there a good age to start teaching mindfulness to children? 01:02:35.594 --> 01:02:40.458 (Thay) You can teach your child mindfulness, 01:02:40.846 --> 01:02:46.339 even when your child is still inside of you! 01:02:46.339 --> 01:02:47.958 (Laughter) 01:02:58.401 --> 01:03:01.168 You practice mindful breathing 01:03:01.358 --> 01:03:03.344 and you talk to your child: 01:03:03.484 --> 01:03:06.205 "Breathing in, I know you are there" 01:03:06.325 --> 01:03:08.285 "and I am so happy." 01:03:09.350 --> 01:03:14.870 You are mindful of the presence of the baby in yourself. 01:03:16.818 --> 01:03:22.478 If you are mindful, the child in you is mindful at the same time, 01:03:22.618 --> 01:03:29.779 because you and him or her are not two entities. 01:03:36.058 --> 01:03:38.876 Everything you eat is for your child. 01:03:39.156 --> 01:03:42.484 Everything you drink is for your child. 01:03:45.664 --> 01:03:49.889 Your happiness is your child's happiness. 01:03:50.549 --> 01:03:53.499 Your anger is your child's anger. 01:03:54.929 --> 01:03:58.608 If you conceive a baby, you have to be very careful. 01:03:59.037 --> 01:04:01.308 You have to be very mindful. 01:04:03.611 --> 01:04:06.234 Anything you consume of the Four Nutriments, 01:04:06.484 --> 01:04:09.294 the child consumes also. 01:04:09.970 --> 01:04:15.488 So be gentle, consume only the healthy things, 01:04:16.998 --> 01:04:19.329 in terms of the Four Nutriments: 01:04:19.499 --> 01:04:23.439 what you read, what you listen to, 01:04:24.549 --> 01:04:30.128 what you eat, what you hear as conversation. 01:04:30.348 --> 01:04:32.686 They will go directly to the baby. 01:04:33.066 --> 01:04:40.216 So your practice of mindfulness is the practice of mindfulness of your child. 01:04:41.730 --> 01:04:48.700 So you can begin at a very early age with your child. 01:04:59.575 --> 01:05:07.065 The baby may not understand yet the talking of adults, 01:05:11.813 --> 01:05:19.713 but the baby can be aware of the energy that you radiate. 01:05:21.861 --> 01:05:28.850 If father and mother are in harmony, loving each other, 01:05:29.160 --> 01:05:31.580 the baby feels that. 01:05:33.142 --> 01:05:39.355 Don't say that he does not understand what we are saying to each other yet. 01:05:39.485 --> 01:05:41.545 Don't do that. 01:05:42.592 --> 01:05:45.513 The baby may not understand what you are saying, 01:05:45.943 --> 01:05:51.123 but the baby can feel the harmony or disharmony between you. 01:05:53.908 --> 01:06:03.247 So your practice of mindfulness, of reconciliation, of harmony... 01:06:03.707 --> 01:06:08.287 has a direct impact on your child. 01:06:11.411 --> 01:06:13.878 When you hold your baby, 01:06:14.118 --> 01:06:18.123 if you hold your baby in mindfulness, 01:06:18.773 --> 01:06:20.883 the baby feels that. 01:06:21.674 --> 01:06:24.284 That is a way to teach mindfulness. 01:06:27.184 --> 01:06:30.336 When you feed your baby with your own milk, 01:06:31.476 --> 01:06:33.838 you are aware of that, 01:06:34.248 --> 01:06:36.489 you feel the happiness, 01:06:37.029 --> 01:06:41.546 so the baby not only is feeding himself from the milk, 01:06:41.866 --> 01:06:44.343 but from your love too. 01:06:44.923 --> 01:06:49.773 So you can teach the baby mindfulness right away in the beginning. 01:06:54.141 --> 01:06:59.911 I remember at a Dharma talk in Germany, 01:07:00.857 --> 01:07:06.267 there were 1000 people in the talk. 01:07:07.403 --> 01:07:09.245 I remember in the front row, 01:07:09.545 --> 01:07:15.215 there were 3 or 4 mothers, breast-feeding their babies. 01:07:17.608 --> 01:07:21.968 The atmosphere in the talk was very, very peaceful, 01:07:23.921 --> 01:07:29.081 because we practiced mindful breathing, mindful smiling. 01:07:30.539 --> 01:07:32.513 It was very nice. 01:07:33.343 --> 01:07:39.746 Before I started the talk, I looked at the babies. 01:07:40.376 --> 01:07:42.966 They were so happy, so calm. 01:07:43.242 --> 01:07:48.192 They were getting the nutriments not only from the breast of their mother, 01:07:48.702 --> 01:07:51.843 but they were getting nutriments 01:07:52.083 --> 01:07:56.993 from the collective energy of mindfulness and compassion 01:07:57.763 --> 01:08:00.080 generated by the practice. 01:08:00.822 --> 01:08:07.452 So children, they know the value of the practice of mindfulness. 01:08:12.958 --> 01:08:17.748 When you are about to have breakfast with your child, 01:08:19.666 --> 01:08:26.792 if the child is 3, or 4, or 5 years old, you can say: 01:08:28.586 --> 01:08:33.703 "Darling, it's wonderful that we have breakfast together." 01:08:34.273 --> 01:08:36.914 You show your appreciation... 01:08:37.244 --> 01:08:43.431 that mother and son, mother and daughter, are there having breakfast together. 01:08:43.801 --> 01:08:46.421 You cherish every moment. 01:08:50.746 --> 01:08:55.836 There is a mantra that we practice in Plum Village. 01:08:58.791 --> 01:09:04.111 From time to time, we remind the other person or people... 01:09:06.259 --> 01:09:13.269 that the moment we spend together is a wonderful moment. 01:09:16.826 --> 01:09:20.396 That can be practiced with children too. 01:09:21.794 --> 01:09:27.194 The mantra is: "This is a happy moment." 01:09:28.515 --> 01:09:31.574 "This is a wonderful moment." 01:09:31.834 --> 01:09:34.544 "Don't you agree?" 01:09:35.122 --> 01:09:39.402 "This is a legendary moment that we share with each other." 01:09:40.180 --> 01:09:47.210 That mantra, we can practice, we can pronounce, several times a day. 01:09:49.546 --> 01:09:52.996 I myself practice that mantra a lot with my students. 01:09:54.642 --> 01:09:58.842 Walking together, sitting together, eating together, 01:10:01.041 --> 01:10:04.095 we remind each other that this is a wonderful moment. 01:10:05.345 --> 01:10:10.195 We are still alive, we are sharing a cup of tea. 01:10:11.860 --> 01:10:14.040 This is always possible. 01:10:17.611 --> 01:10:21.607 So children are receptive to that kind of practice. 01:10:23.027 --> 01:10:25.417 They know that we appreciate their presence. 01:10:26.772 --> 01:10:31.512 We offer attention to them, and they are happy. 01:10:32.400 --> 01:10:35.700 They learn in a way that we cannot conceive. 01:10:37.784 --> 01:10:42.504 They learn without knowing that they are learning. 01:10:43.710 --> 01:10:47.990 We transmit the practice of mindfulness by our way of life. 01:10:51.619 --> 01:10:55.196 If the parents smoke and drink alcohol, 01:10:55.596 --> 01:10:58.526 the children will smoke and drink alcohol. 01:10:59.181 --> 01:11:03.869 If the parents practice mindfulness, loving speech, and deep listening, 01:11:04.209 --> 01:11:06.094 then the children will do it. 01:11:06.394 --> 01:11:09.424 They do not have to know that they are learning. 01:11:10.592 --> 01:11:14.902 So the learning, the practice, can be non-formal. 01:11:16.848 --> 01:11:20.446 You don't have to say that, "I am practicing mindfulness." 01:11:21.016 --> 01:11:25.554 You just enjoy the practice of mindfulness, of breathing, 01:11:25.754 --> 01:11:28.126 walking, eating and so on. 01:11:28.406 --> 01:11:31.956 That will have an effect on the children, 01:11:32.366 --> 01:11:34.352 even the very young ones. 01:11:36.679 --> 01:11:40.139 Three years old may be too late! 01:11:41.127 --> 01:11:43.537 (Laughter) 01:12:06.034 --> 01:12:07.658 (Half Bell) 01:12:12.026 --> 01:12:19.451 (Bell) 01:12:32.875 --> 01:12:36.315 Dear Thay, dear brothers and sisters, 01:12:37.995 --> 01:12:42.735 I want to deeply thank you for sharing your time with us. 01:12:44.955 --> 01:12:48.925 My question is regarding hurt kids. 01:12:51.467 --> 01:13:00.357 How can we guide them, help them to look deeply, 01:13:01.178 --> 01:13:07.566 and try to understand the root cause of their suffering, 01:13:08.626 --> 01:13:12.475 such as anger, anguish, or fear, 01:13:14.184 --> 01:13:16.994 when they are small? 01:13:23.393 --> 01:13:28.803 (Br. Mountain) So the question is about children: 01:13:29.063 --> 01:13:31.388 How to guide them to look deeply, 01:13:31.708 --> 01:13:35.210 and try to understand the cause of these children's suffering 01:13:36.140 --> 01:13:39.175 - anger, anguish, fear - 01:13:39.526 --> 01:13:41.311 so how to help them? 01:13:41.311 --> 01:13:42.977 Any particular age? 01:13:43.137 --> 01:13:46.318 (Lady) Maybe six, seven or eight. 01:13:46.628 --> 01:13:49.309 (Br. Mountain) Six, seven or eight. 01:13:49.819 --> 01:13:54.739 So how to help little children understand the cause of their suffering? 01:14:04.817 --> 01:14:09.129 We should not try to give the teaching... 01:14:10.779 --> 01:14:14.219 orally only, 01:14:15.718 --> 01:14:19.268 because often it does not work. 01:14:23.166 --> 01:14:28.096 As teachers, we have the tendency to explain. 01:14:31.546 --> 01:14:35.001 In order to explain, we have to use words. 01:14:37.109 --> 01:14:39.940 That may turn them off. 01:14:41.032 --> 01:14:45.281 They are not interested in words and concepts. 01:14:55.495 --> 01:15:01.897 I think we should use very simple expressions, 01:15:02.497 --> 01:15:04.727 simple, simple words. 01:15:15.897 --> 01:15:18.429 Suppose when... 01:15:21.327 --> 01:15:25.337 when we have anger in us, 01:15:28.116 --> 01:15:33.666 when mother has anger in herself, 01:15:42.114 --> 01:15:47.189 if the child wants her to do something, 01:15:48.209 --> 01:15:51.359 to say something, for him. 01:15:53.668 --> 01:16:00.606 If the mother realises that it's not good to do it, to say it, 01:16:00.876 --> 01:16:03.256 when she's angry, 01:16:03.681 --> 01:16:06.950 she may tell her child 01:16:07.320 --> 01:16:10.998 that Mummy does not feel good in herself. 01:16:11.458 --> 01:16:13.691 Mummy is a little bit angry. 01:16:14.261 --> 01:16:19.646 You should allow Mummy to breathe, to walk, 01:16:19.906 --> 01:16:22.949 in order to calm herself first. 01:16:23.884 --> 01:16:26.344 You can do it like that. 01:16:26.834 --> 01:16:28.832 That is teaching. 01:16:31.722 --> 01:16:34.902 You teach by your own life. 01:16:37.950 --> 01:16:42.430 If they see you practicing when you are angry, 01:16:44.055 --> 01:16:45.915 they will believe you. 01:16:47.428 --> 01:16:49.714 Next time when they get angry, 01:16:50.844 --> 01:16:52.964 you may say something: 01:16:53.194 --> 01:16:56.154 "Darling, why don't you do it like Mummy?" 01:16:57.553 --> 01:17:01.159 "Don't say anything, don't do anything," 01:17:01.339 --> 01:17:05.707 "it may do harm to yourself and to others." 01:17:06.487 --> 01:17:09.048 "Do like Mummy, just breathe" 01:17:09.508 --> 01:17:11.458 "and know that we are angry." 01:17:12.296 --> 01:17:17.316 "If we know how to breathe like that, walk like that," 01:17:17.466 --> 01:17:19.383 "then we will feel better." 01:17:19.503 --> 01:17:22.261 "Why don't you hold Mummy's hand" 01:17:22.451 --> 01:17:26.549 "and we will breathe together, make a few steps together." 01:17:27.755 --> 01:17:30.027 That is teaching. 01:17:31.276 --> 01:17:35.434 The same thing is true with other mental formations, 01:17:36.594 --> 01:17:40.294 like fear, jealousy and so on. 01:17:42.843 --> 01:17:52.115 So there is a kind of teaching called teaching by your own life, 01:17:53.555 --> 01:17:55.104 by your own body. 01:17:55.524 --> 01:17:57.874 This is very good. 01:17:58.229 --> 01:18:04.609 So as a teacher, I know the value of that kind of teaching. 01:18:08.269 --> 01:18:10.937 You teach by the way you walk, 01:18:11.997 --> 01:18:14.251 by the way you sit down, 01:18:14.571 --> 01:18:17.011 by the way you eat, 01:18:17.617 --> 01:18:19.629 by the way you look, 01:18:19.909 --> 01:18:23.139 by the way you react to a provocation. 01:18:25.395 --> 01:18:30.675 That teaching is well received by the young people. 01:18:31.323 --> 01:18:34.303 You don't have to use a lot of words. 01:18:38.771 --> 01:18:41.561 Another question from the floor. 01:18:44.232 --> 01:18:46.627 (Br. Mountain) Dear Thay, dear Sangha, 01:18:46.827 --> 01:18:50.463 this is a question from a man, I guess, 01:18:50.653 --> 01:18:52.504 because it says: 01:18:52.594 --> 01:18:56.634 "How can men today avoid becoming soft men?" 01:18:58.682 --> 01:19:03.859 "How can men become more confident," 01:19:04.219 --> 01:19:06.609 "without becoming aggressive?" 01:19:07.436 --> 01:19:13.316 "How can a man avoid becoming a soft man?" 01:19:14.284 --> 01:19:20.928 Sometimes men, maybe in Spain, have been aggressive in the past 01:19:21.068 --> 01:19:23.235 and now when we practice, 01:19:23.435 --> 01:19:26.606 we become soft, very receptive and attentive, 01:19:26.736 --> 01:19:29.476 and maybe we become too soft. 01:19:30.082 --> 01:19:31.930 Too soft! 01:19:32.880 --> 01:19:35.156 (Laughter) 01:19:48.059 --> 01:19:52.309 Yesterday, we spoke about Noble Silence, 01:19:55.037 --> 01:19:58.317 a kind of silence that is very powerful. 01:20:00.087 --> 01:20:02.607 It's not oppressive at all. 01:20:03.986 --> 01:20:05.736 It's very alive. 01:20:06.681 --> 01:20:10.307 When we stop our talking, 01:20:11.577 --> 01:20:13.615 when we stop our thinking, 01:20:13.896 --> 01:20:16.655 we breathe, we become alive, 01:20:17.236 --> 01:20:23.087 we are aware of being with each other 01:20:23.577 --> 01:20:27.577 and that kind of silence is very powerful. 01:20:28.339 --> 01:20:30.320 In the Buddhist tradition, 01:20:30.690 --> 01:20:36.830 they describe the silence as "thundering silence." 01:20:38.001 --> 01:20:40.201 Powerful like thunder. 01:20:42.152 --> 01:20:44.064 (French) The thunder. 01:20:44.495 --> 01:20:46.764 Thundering silence. 01:20:47.587 --> 01:20:53.037 There are those who believe that when they have too much compassion, 01:20:53.537 --> 01:20:55.553 they become very soft, 01:20:56.204 --> 01:20:58.164 and that is not true. 01:20:58.846 --> 01:21:00.806 Compassion is not soft. 01:21:01.763 --> 01:21:05.188 Compassion is very, very powerful. 01:21:10.678 --> 01:21:13.802 When you have great compassion, 01:21:14.272 --> 01:21:20.417 you can die, you are ready to die for the sake of helping people. 01:21:21.367 --> 01:21:23.497 You are very powerful. 01:21:26.490 --> 01:21:34.700 It is violence that makes you weak, 01:21:36.302 --> 01:21:37.987 because you are weak, 01:21:38.147 --> 01:21:40.686 that is why you need a gun, 01:21:41.016 --> 01:21:42.869 you need an army. 01:21:45.774 --> 01:21:48.310 If you are really powerful, 01:21:48.625 --> 01:21:51.338 you can help many people around, 01:21:51.808 --> 01:21:53.993 many countries around, 01:21:54.233 --> 01:21:55.843 and you are safer. 01:21:56.601 --> 01:21:59.151 If you are too afraid, 01:21:59.761 --> 01:22:02.671 you need a gun, you need an army. 01:22:04.569 --> 01:22:07.795 That is why cultivating compassion, 01:22:08.868 --> 01:22:11.234 you protect yourself much better 01:22:12.017 --> 01:22:16.984 than with an army, with a gun. 01:22:19.222 --> 01:22:22.762 If you carry a gun, that means you are afraid, 01:22:24.220 --> 01:22:26.140 you are fearful. 01:22:36.228 --> 01:22:39.117 Compassion makes us... 01:22:42.871 --> 01:22:46.221 Compassion gives us a lot of energy. 01:22:51.659 --> 01:22:59.829 With compassion, you can do everything in order to help people. 01:23:01.502 --> 01:23:03.034 You are not afraid. 01:23:04.847 --> 01:23:06.565 In the Lotus Sutra, 01:23:06.795 --> 01:23:11.125 compassion is described as "thunder." 01:23:14.303 --> 01:23:18.379 It's like a cloud, a big cloud in the sky. 01:23:19.062 --> 01:23:22.122 It looks very soft, 01:23:23.807 --> 01:23:27.941 but a cloud can generate thunder, 01:23:28.721 --> 01:23:30.741 lightning and thunder. 01:23:32.119 --> 01:23:34.499 So in the Lotus Sutra, 01:23:34.659 --> 01:23:38.268 compassion is described as lightning and thunder. 01:23:38.528 --> 01:23:40.928 Very, very powerful. 01:23:43.360 --> 01:23:46.499 If you have violence in you, 01:23:46.819 --> 01:23:51.569 your nature is weak, and not powerful. 01:23:53.045 --> 01:23:55.061 But if you have compassion in you, 01:23:55.191 --> 01:23:57.011 you are really powerful. 01:23:59.103 --> 01:24:02.983 With violence in you, you suffer. 01:24:09.580 --> 01:24:14.138 Children, adults, teenagers, 01:24:15.298 --> 01:24:19.284 if they have a lot of violence in them, 01:24:19.584 --> 01:24:21.075 then they suffer, 01:24:21.195 --> 01:24:23.365 and we can see the suffering. 01:24:23.966 --> 01:24:25.986 And they are weak. 01:24:27.834 --> 01:24:31.338 If we cultivate compassion, we are healthy, 01:24:32.695 --> 01:24:34.970 and we are powerful. 01:24:37.039 --> 01:24:39.309 Violence makes you sick. 01:24:41.354 --> 01:24:47.344 It is destroying our health, physical and mental. 01:24:48.358 --> 01:24:49.858 Violence. 01:24:52.462 --> 01:24:57.612 When you produce a thought full of hate and violence, 01:25:00.342 --> 01:25:04.872 that thought begins to destroy you and destroy the world. 01:25:07.149 --> 01:25:10.078 But if you have Right Understanding, 01:25:10.348 --> 01:25:14.994 you generate a thought of compassion, of understanding. 01:25:15.984 --> 01:25:18.904 That thought begins to heal you 01:25:19.194 --> 01:25:21.564 and begins to heal the world. 01:25:23.842 --> 01:25:26.588 That is the practice of Right Thinking: 01:25:26.828 --> 01:25:28.608 thinking in such a way 01:25:28.868 --> 01:25:33.028 that you can generate understanding and compassion. 01:25:35.381 --> 01:25:37.991 That is real power. 01:25:42.699 --> 01:25:47.219 Compassion can be expressed in the way you think, 01:25:48.157 --> 01:25:51.187 in the way you speak, 01:25:52.365 --> 01:25:55.435 and in the way you act. 01:26:02.241 --> 01:26:09.181 If you are motivated by the desire to help a person to suffer less, 01:26:10.087 --> 01:26:16.037 you can use loving speech, compassionate speech. 01:26:16.915 --> 01:26:19.935 What you write down in a letter, 01:26:20.255 --> 01:26:22.464 what you say, 01:26:22.524 --> 01:26:25.966 what you tell him or her on the telephone... 01:26:26.386 --> 01:26:29.616 has so much compassion. 01:26:31.980 --> 01:26:35.620 When you are able to say something compassionate, 01:26:36.326 --> 01:26:39.024 you feel wonderful within yourself, 01:26:39.324 --> 01:26:41.224 you can heal yourself. 01:26:47.069 --> 01:26:50.919 You can begin to help heal the other person. 01:26:52.696 --> 01:26:56.026 So compassion has the power to heal. 01:27:02.090 --> 01:27:04.430 That is why all of us have to learn 01:27:04.798 --> 01:27:09.068 how to generate the energy of compassion in us. 01:27:09.986 --> 01:27:12.320 If we want to heal ourselves, 01:27:12.431 --> 01:27:16.011 we have to generate the energy of compassion. 01:27:16.191 --> 01:27:18.498 If we want to heal our family, 01:27:19.248 --> 01:27:22.420 make our family happy, harmonious again, 01:27:22.608 --> 01:27:28.218 we have to generate, to cultivate compassion. 01:27:28.428 --> 01:27:31.438 If we want to heal our community, 01:27:32.791 --> 01:27:36.157 our city, our nation, 01:27:36.607 --> 01:27:40.837 we have to cultivate more compassion. 01:27:41.709 --> 01:27:47.120 Compassion comes from understanding, understanding suffering: 01:27:47.350 --> 01:27:51.097 our own suffering and the suffering of the other person, 01:27:51.277 --> 01:27:55.487 even the suffering of the people who we believe to be our enemies. 01:27:56.454 --> 01:28:00.134 They have a lot of suffering in themselves also. 01:28:04.458 --> 01:28:08.878 So the answer to our situation is compassion. 01:28:10.575 --> 01:28:18.042 And medically speaking, doctors are beginning to understand 01:28:18.302 --> 01:28:21.262 that compassion has a healing power. 01:28:22.420 --> 01:28:25.206 If you have so much hate, and despair, and anger, 01:28:25.376 --> 01:28:27.207 then it's difficult to heal. 01:28:27.447 --> 01:28:29.676 But if you have compassion, 01:28:29.966 --> 01:28:32.066 it's easier to heal yourself. 01:28:33.234 --> 01:28:35.056 At Stanford University, 01:28:35.228 --> 01:28:40.016 they have begun to study the healing power of compassion. 01:28:40.845 --> 01:28:46.130 Thay was invited to speak at Stanford 01:28:46.290 --> 01:28:50.228 about the practice of compassion, 01:28:50.448 --> 01:28:53.568 and someone asked exactly the same question. 01:28:55.769 --> 01:28:59.009 Is it not true that compassion makes you weak? 01:29:00.170 --> 01:29:02.186 No, the opposite. 01:29:02.446 --> 01:29:04.926 Compassion makes you very strong. 01:29:20.546 --> 01:29:22.216 Bell first. 01:29:23.442 --> 01:29:25.016 (Bell) 01:29:28.952 --> 01:29:37.619 (Bell) 01:29:57.723 --> 01:29:59.332 I would like to ask: 01:29:59.482 --> 01:30:04.112 If someone, at one moment, comes to me for help, 01:30:04.922 --> 01:30:09.246 and I cannot (inaudible) for that person, 01:30:09.586 --> 01:30:12.724 and I have that moment, 01:30:12.934 --> 01:30:17.062 when I tell that person to embrace the pain, 01:30:17.442 --> 01:30:19.422 to embrace the suffering. 01:30:19.689 --> 01:30:22.267 What if the person doesn't accept 01:30:22.477 --> 01:30:25.367 and maybe gets mad? 01:30:25.678 --> 01:30:28.538 How can I keep helping the person? 01:30:28.958 --> 01:30:31.429 I only have maybe a few minutes, 01:30:31.519 --> 01:30:34.709 and then this person will go away. 01:30:36.907 --> 01:30:40.727 (Br. Mountain) (Spanish) Could you ask the question in Spanish? 01:30:41.128 --> 01:30:45.692 (Spanish) If someone comes to me for help 01:30:46.223 --> 01:30:48.976 and I have a limited time, 01:30:49.600 --> 01:30:55.929 and I try to help him and tell him to embrace his suffering, 01:30:56.151 --> 01:30:58.484 his sorrow, his hate, 01:30:58.675 --> 01:31:02.514 and that person at that moment refuses to do it 01:31:02.828 --> 01:31:05.459 and gets even more angry, 01:31:05.800 --> 01:31:10.396 How can I help that person in that limited time I have? 01:31:12.308 --> 01:31:16.206 (Br. Mountain) So somebody comes to her, asking for help, 01:31:16.346 --> 01:31:19.934 but she doesn't have much time to offer to this person, 01:31:20.294 --> 01:31:25.525 and she tells this person that she just needs to embrace her suffering, 01:31:25.685 --> 01:31:27.876 or anger, or whatever emotion, 01:31:28.106 --> 01:31:32.197 but that person reacts, they don't want to hear that. 01:31:32.407 --> 01:31:35.369 With this limited time that I have, 01:31:35.759 --> 01:31:39.349 how can I help this person transform? 01:31:40.374 --> 01:31:45.875 So basically, she says to this person that she needs to embrace her suffering, 01:31:46.505 --> 01:31:50.334 but the person reacts and doesn't want to embrace the suffering. 01:31:50.884 --> 01:31:55.474 And she doesn't have much time available to help the person. 01:31:58.492 --> 01:32:01.532 What work do you do? What is your profession? 01:32:01.652 --> 01:32:04.873 Is this something professional? 01:32:07.377 --> 01:32:13.247 (Lady) I am a teacher, but I also help people with problems. 01:32:17.188 --> 01:32:21.858 (Br. Mountain) So... a teacher, and you help people professionally? 01:32:22.129 --> 01:32:25.502 (Lady) Teaching, yes, it's my profession. 01:32:25.852 --> 01:32:30.412 And I help people... (inaudible) 01:32:33.813 --> 01:32:36.943 (Thay) (Speaking in Vietnamese) 01:32:37.963 --> 01:32:42.644 (Br. Inclusiveness) (Replying in Vietnamese) 01:33:20.408 --> 01:33:22.818 If we are so busy, 01:33:23.886 --> 01:33:26.686 if we do not have the time, 01:33:27.604 --> 01:33:29.644 we cannot do anything. 01:33:31.380 --> 01:33:35.040 So the problem is to arrange that you have plenty of time. 01:33:39.366 --> 01:33:42.308 (Laughter) 01:33:54.384 --> 01:34:01.480 There are those of us who are doctors, 01:34:03.160 --> 01:34:05.183 lawyers, 01:34:06.650 --> 01:34:13.110 and who are able to help people, 01:34:17.079 --> 01:34:24.046 but our capacity is limited. 01:34:25.849 --> 01:34:31.013 So many of us have become monks and nuns in order to have more time. 01:34:31.743 --> 01:34:33.293 (Laughter) 01:34:34.013 --> 01:34:36.561 Because as a monk or nun 01:34:37.438 --> 01:34:40.076 you don't have to make a living. 01:34:40.875 --> 01:34:43.194 You don't have to make a living. 01:34:45.424 --> 01:34:49.729 You don't need a private house, you don't need a salary. 01:34:50.054 --> 01:34:52.563 You don't need 01:35:01.161 --> 01:35:06.098 a private bank account and so on. 01:35:06.588 --> 01:35:12.367 So you have plenty of time to practice helping yourself 01:35:14.123 --> 01:35:16.681 and helping other people. 01:35:20.020 --> 01:35:25.780 So one of the ways to have the time is to live a simple life. 01:35:29.645 --> 01:35:33.975 Especially and if possible to live in a community. 01:35:35.641 --> 01:35:40.019 You don't need a private car, a private house, 01:35:40.829 --> 01:35:45.709 a private bank account and so on. 01:35:46.559 --> 01:35:48.539 You have plenty of time. 01:35:49.491 --> 01:35:52.939 That is what the Buddha and his monks did. 01:35:53.719 --> 01:35:57.889 They had plenty of time walking, sitting, helping people. 01:36:05.901 --> 01:36:11.321 Time is not money. 01:36:14.105 --> 01:36:18.935 But in our society, many people think of time as money. 01:36:19.793 --> 01:36:21.813 Time is to make money. 01:36:24.181 --> 01:36:26.336 Time is much more than money. 01:36:26.540 --> 01:36:31.089 Time is life, and time is love. 01:36:33.106 --> 01:36:37.523 You are given years, months and days 01:36:38.013 --> 01:36:39.874 and hours and minutes 01:36:40.007 --> 01:36:45.497 in order to live your life and to love, not to make money. 01:36:46.117 --> 01:36:52.831 If your priority is to make money, 01:36:53.236 --> 01:36:58.442 then you don't have the time to do the work of loving. 01:36:59.468 --> 01:37:01.638 You have to love yourself. 01:37:02.367 --> 01:37:05.286 Do you have the time to love yourself? 01:37:05.696 --> 01:37:12.106 To take care of your body, to take care of your feelings and so on? 01:37:13.626 --> 01:37:15.477 If you don't have the time to do that, 01:37:15.768 --> 01:37:18.705 how can you help another person? 01:37:24.084 --> 01:37:27.724 If you don't have the time, how can you love? 01:37:31.330 --> 01:37:35.660 Everything you do in your daily life is an act of love. 01:37:37.728 --> 01:37:41.375 Everything you say, everything you do in your daily life 01:37:41.815 --> 01:37:46.355 can be an act of love, that is possible. 01:37:49.456 --> 01:37:54.316 So please, reconsider the way you use your time. 01:37:54.967 --> 01:37:58.197 What are you doing with your time? 01:37:58.760 --> 01:38:06.296 Your time is to be, 01:38:07.869 --> 01:38:11.250 to live your life and to love. 01:38:13.329 --> 01:38:19.309 Look at the people in our society, the way they make use of their time. 01:38:20.075 --> 01:38:25.915 They don't have the time to breathe, to sit, to walk, 01:38:26.953 --> 01:38:29.037 to enjoy being alive, 01:38:29.989 --> 01:38:32.557 to look at their children. 01:38:37.874 --> 01:38:39.774 We are always in a hurry. 01:38:41.156 --> 01:38:43.806 So there must be a kind a revolution. 01:38:46.490 --> 01:38:50.680 Those of us who have chosen to be monks and nuns 01:38:51.188 --> 01:38:56.238 or the lay practitioners who are living in the community, 01:38:57.086 --> 01:38:59.793 we want a lot of time 01:39:01.062 --> 01:39:04.671 so that we can take care of ourselves fully. 01:39:05.501 --> 01:39:09.811 Heal ourselves and help heal and help other people. 01:39:10.823 --> 01:39:17.213 When we organize a retreat, we do it as an act of love. 01:39:26.647 --> 01:39:32.497 When we see the people transformed and healed, 01:39:32.947 --> 01:39:34.919 that is our reward. 01:39:36.261 --> 01:39:38.836 That is the benefit we get. 01:39:39.499 --> 01:39:42.323 When we see people suffering less, 01:39:42.666 --> 01:39:46.163 beginning to smile, reconciling with each other, 01:39:46.413 --> 01:39:48.002 we are very happy. 01:39:48.452 --> 01:39:51.142 We see that our life has a meaning. 01:39:52.804 --> 01:39:56.224 This is nourishing us a lot. 01:39:57.174 --> 01:39:59.904 So every one of us has to sit down 01:40:00.151 --> 01:40:04.361 and reconsider how do we use our time. 01:40:05.202 --> 01:40:10.202 Do we have the time to love, to serve? 01:40:11.321 --> 01:40:14.940 Do we have the time to take care of ourselves? 01:40:15.180 --> 01:40:18.936 Heal ourselves and help heal our society? 01:40:19.899 --> 01:40:21.529 This is the question. 01:40:22.424 --> 01:40:26.014 And you have to give the answer by yourself. 01:40:46.373 --> 01:40:47.912 (Bell) 01:40:51.152 --> 01:40:56.948 (Bell) 01:41:16.097 --> 01:41:18.379 (Spanish) Dear Thay, 01:41:19.509 --> 01:41:23.161 (inaudible) 01:41:26.501 --> 01:41:34.375 How can we protect our Sangha, 01:41:35.900 --> 01:41:40.448 especially if it is a very young Sangha, 01:41:41.324 --> 01:41:44.820 composed by young people 01:41:45.369 --> 01:41:50.650 who have few experience with the practice? 01:41:51.254 --> 01:41:56.392 How can we protect ourselves when there are frailties? 01:41:57.500 --> 01:41:59.346 (Brother) When there is what? 01:41:59.466 --> 01:42:01.376 (Spanish) Frailties. 01:42:03.789 --> 01:42:05.556 (Brother) Weakness? 01:42:08.295 --> 01:42:11.112 (Br.Mountain) Can you repeat the question? 01:42:11.522 --> 01:42:16.407 (Spanish) How can we, my Sangha friends and myself... 01:42:16.557 --> 01:42:21.644 (Br.Mountain) How can my friends of the Sangha and myself... 01:42:22.610 --> 01:42:24.922 ... protect our Sangha... 01:42:25.002 --> 01:42:27.612 (Brother) ...how can we protect our Sangha... 01:42:27.752 --> 01:42:30.403 ...especially if it is a young Sangha... 01:42:30.832 --> 01:42:34.432 (Brother) ...especially if it's a young Sangha? 01:42:35.372 --> 01:42:37.432 Yes, it is OK. 01:42:38.508 --> 01:42:40.934 (Brother) You said something more. 01:42:41.080 --> 01:42:44.246 -It is a young Sangha. -(Brother) It's a young Sangha. 01:42:44.483 --> 01:42:48.118 -We are all young people... - (Br.) We are all quite young... 01:42:48.233 --> 01:42:51.544 -...with little experience... -(Br.)...with little experience... 01:42:51.672 --> 01:42:55.540 -...in the practice. -(Br)...in the practice. 01:42:56.168 --> 01:42:59.364 (Br. Mountain) So how can we protect our Sangha 01:43:00.110 --> 01:43:04.574 because we are a young Sangha, we have little experience. 01:43:24.843 --> 01:43:31.633 Building a Sangha is a very basic practice. 01:43:38.060 --> 01:43:43.460 If you have an aspiration, 01:43:45.593 --> 01:43:47.558 a deep aspiration, 01:43:47.808 --> 01:43:52.128 if you have a dream to realize, 01:43:54.087 --> 01:43:59.337 you cannot do it without a community. 01:44:15.655 --> 01:44:22.605 And that is why, building a community is very important. 01:44:24.289 --> 01:44:27.149 The Buddha, after enlightenment, 01:44:29.412 --> 01:44:34.542 knew that he needed a Sangha in order to realize his dream, 01:44:36.090 --> 01:44:39.480 offering the practice and help change the world. 01:44:41.396 --> 01:44:46.396 So he spent his time looking for friends 01:44:46.796 --> 01:44:50.628 and set up a community of practice. 01:44:54.186 --> 01:45:00.336 And at the end of the first year after enlightenment, 01:45:00.676 --> 01:45:04.466 he already had a community of one thousand people. 01:45:05.794 --> 01:45:12.604 He spent his time training them how to walk. 01:45:13.598 --> 01:45:18.356 How to walk mindfully and generate peace and joy with every step. 01:45:18.586 --> 01:45:22.186 How to hold their bow, how to sit, how to breathe. 01:45:23.828 --> 01:45:26.008 So you will do the same. 01:45:27.544 --> 01:45:30.130 With young members of the Sangha 01:45:30.220 --> 01:45:35.730 the first thing you do is not to organize. 01:45:37.222 --> 01:45:42.082 For other people, we have to organize so that we can practice together. 01:45:43.363 --> 01:45:47.189 We should practice sitting together, 01:45:47.437 --> 01:45:51.655 walking together, eating together, sharing together 01:45:52.405 --> 01:45:55.727 in such a way, that every time we do that 01:45:56.417 --> 01:45:59.146 we create more brotherhood and sisterhood 01:45:59.617 --> 01:46:01.934 and mutual understanding. 01:46:02.440 --> 01:46:08.980 We learn to make decisions together by consensus. 01:46:11.512 --> 01:46:14.052 We try to listen to each other. 01:46:14.754 --> 01:46:17.634 We try to understand different views. 01:46:18.410 --> 01:46:21.357 We try to combine all these kind of views 01:46:21.487 --> 01:46:24.927 in order to make a synthesis of all views 01:46:26.525 --> 01:46:32.115 and we make a decision collectively. 01:46:33.996 --> 01:46:41.711 Only when we have enough harmony, brotherhood, sisterhood, joy 01:46:42.071 --> 01:46:47.321 should we organize a day of mindfulness or a retreat of mindfulness 01:46:47.711 --> 01:46:49.868 and invite other people to come. 01:46:53.724 --> 01:46:59.874 We operate as a Sangha and not as individuals. 01:47:01.122 --> 01:47:05.502 An individual, no matter how talented he is or she is 01:47:07.087 --> 01:47:09.627 cannot realize the big dream. 01:47:10.061 --> 01:47:14.081 So we learn to organize, 01:47:14.421 --> 01:47:21.989 to lead a retreat as a Sangha and not as a person. 01:47:22.499 --> 01:47:24.336 An individual. 01:47:25.604 --> 01:47:28.329 In Plum Village, we try to do that. 01:47:29.558 --> 01:47:33.138 It's the Sangha who makes the decision 01:47:35.437 --> 01:47:37.337 and not a person. 01:47:38.123 --> 01:47:44.983 For this trip to Spain, organizing the retreats and the public talks 01:47:45.373 --> 01:47:47.243 the Sangha did everything, 01:47:48.183 --> 01:47:51.797 including choosing the title of the talk and the retreat. 01:47:52.109 --> 01:47:54.369 Thay did not have to do anything. 01:47:54.509 --> 01:47:56.429 He just obeyed the Sangha. 01:47:57.187 --> 01:48:01.477 So you have plenty of time to walk, to sit, to breathe. 01:48:02.207 --> 01:48:03.817 It's very good. 01:48:04.030 --> 01:48:08.782 We should operate as a Sangha, not as individuals. 01:48:10.473 --> 01:48:15.014 If you are able to build a Sangha with harmony and brotherhood, 01:48:15.181 --> 01:48:19.864 you can do a lot of things in order to help people to suffer less. 01:48:21.066 --> 01:48:29.356 Building a Sangha is the most noble thing to do for a person. 01:48:32.385 --> 01:48:37.945 When I met with Dr. Martin Luther King for the first time in Chicago, 01:48:42.654 --> 01:48:46.301 in 1966, we discussed about that. 01:48:46.704 --> 01:48:50.593 Because he knew that without a Sangha, without a community 01:48:51.113 --> 01:48:53.733 he could not realize his dream. 01:48:54.951 --> 01:48:59.461 A year before that, he spoke with the theme "I have a dream". 01:49:02.779 --> 01:49:04.355 I told him that: 01:49:04.501 --> 01:49:08.050 "Your dream cannot become true if you don't have a community." 01:49:08.180 --> 01:49:09.940 And he agreed. 01:49:10.076 --> 01:49:13.295 I was using the word Sangha, 01:49:14.541 --> 01:49:18.592 but he used the word 'beloved community'. 01:49:20.182 --> 01:49:24.652 The second time we met was in Geneva. 01:49:26.086 --> 01:49:29.116 We attended a Peace conference. 01:49:29.618 --> 01:49:34.358 We had the opportunity to discuss more about building a Sangha. 01:49:37.717 --> 01:49:42.667 Unfortunately, he was assassinated 01:49:45.650 --> 01:49:48.130 not very long after that. 01:49:49.054 --> 01:49:57.984 So, I made the vow to continue to build the Sangha, 01:49:58.914 --> 01:50:02.494 not only for us, but for him. 01:50:03.949 --> 01:50:06.661 Building a Sangha is very important. 01:50:07.608 --> 01:50:12.201 With a Sangha, you can maintain your practice for a long time. 01:50:13.144 --> 01:50:17.842 With a Sangha, you have an instrument to help people. 01:50:18.532 --> 01:50:21.367 People can come and take refuge in the Sangha, 01:50:21.482 --> 01:50:24.562 learn the practice of healing and transformation. 01:50:25.564 --> 01:50:32.592 So everyone of us who finds the practice of mindfulness useful 01:50:33.182 --> 01:50:36.488 should go home, to his city 01:50:36.858 --> 01:50:41.918 and look around and identify elements of a future Sangha. 01:50:42.814 --> 01:50:48.524 We should set up a group of people, learn to sit together, walk together, 01:50:48.694 --> 01:50:52.702 breathe together, create brotherhood and sisterhood. 01:50:53.390 --> 01:50:58.230 Then we will be able to help many people. 01:50:59.519 --> 01:51:03.619 Schoolteachers have to set up their Sangha of schoolteachers. 01:51:04.362 --> 01:51:08.941 Psychotherapists also have to set up Sanghas of psychotherapists. 01:51:09.981 --> 01:51:19.651 Doctors, nurses, even business leaders have to come together and set up a Sangha 01:51:19.821 --> 01:51:22.481 in order to support each other. 01:51:22.860 --> 01:51:24.913 We all need a Sangha. 01:51:25.383 --> 01:51:29.269 Without a Sangha, Thay cannot do anything. 01:51:29.539 --> 01:51:33.171 So he is taking refuge in the Sangha. 01:51:33.869 --> 01:51:37.182 We always operate as a Sangha. 01:51:37.354 --> 01:51:44.254 If the Sangha has harmony, brotherhood, you can do a lot of things. 01:51:48.953 --> 01:51:51.944 (inaudible) 01:51:54.683 --> 01:51:59.290 Today we have walking meditation again, 01:52:00.060 --> 01:52:05.987 but we should go with the same speed, 01:52:08.136 --> 01:52:11.165 we should not walk too slow. 01:52:12.228 --> 01:52:17.757 We should not create a traffic jam. 01:52:18.407 --> 01:52:20.286 (Laughter) 01:52:20.936 --> 01:52:24.745 Breathing in 2 steps, breathing out 3 steps, 01:52:25.155 --> 01:52:29.855 and do not allow the line to be broken as yesterday. 01:52:31.006 --> 01:52:36.896 We can enjoy every step and we are aware that we are walking with a community. 01:52:37.296 --> 01:52:41.628 We flow like a river and not drops of water. 01:52:41.961 --> 01:52:43.857 (Laughter) 01:52:51.656 --> 01:52:53.486 (Bell) 01:52:55.082 --> 01:53:02.203 (Bell) 01:53:06.958 --> 01:53:10.145 That's long enough, that's good. 01:53:10.905 --> 01:53:12.881 Thank you. 01:53:13.441 --> 01:53:20.151 We shall gather and begin our walking meditation in... 01:53:21.848 --> 01:53:23.567 (Br. 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