[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:01.76,0:00:03.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Bell) Dialogue: 0,0:00:06.82,0:00:13.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Bell) Dialogue: 0,0:00:34.60,0:00:37.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dear Thay, my name is Frances. Dialogue: 0,0:00:38.88,0:00:43.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My parents gave me that name\Nafter Saint Francis of Assisi. Dialogue: 0,0:00:45.38,0:00:48.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thay , we are all your continuation Dialogue: 0,0:00:48.95,0:00:53.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I vowed to continue\Nwhat you taught us. Dialogue: 0,0:00:53.73,0:00:56.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Especially yesterday you told us\Nabout the bell. Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.22,0:01:02.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Perhaps we will be awakened Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.11,0:01:05.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and will help others\Nto be awakened Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.01,0:01:09.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we transcend the path\Nof anxiety and sorrow. Dialogue: 0,0:01:17.72,0:01:21.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is my vow Dialogue: 0,0:01:23.44,0:01:33.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I know that the path\Nwill not be effortless, Dialogue: 0,0:01:33.70,0:01:36.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even though we've learned\Nabout effortless, Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.12,0:01:41.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we have learned about\Nmindfulness with insight. Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.10,0:01:46.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know that the solution for that\Nis the dying of the self. Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.61,0:01:50.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,With the dying of the self\Nthere can be effortlessness. Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.03,0:01:53.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But at the same time, Dialogue: 0,0:01:53.42,0:01:54.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to live a vow Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.07,0:01:57.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we have to go through\Nburning decisions, Dialogue: 0,0:01:57.84,0:01:59.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like a flame is burning. Dialogue: 0,0:01:59.95,0:02:03.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have to make a decision\Nagainst the collective energy. Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.06,0:02:07.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I also see that I am\Ntransforming my suffering Dialogue: 0,0:02:07.94,0:02:11.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and also my parents' suffering. Dialogue: 0,0:02:13.12,0:02:18.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The way I have been doing it\Nand the way that I will continue to do it Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.87,0:02:22.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to... I pray to God\Nand to the Goddess in me. Dialogue: 0,0:02:22.36,0:02:28.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Outside of me is\Nthe cosmic true nature body Dialogue: 0,0:02:28.32,0:02:31.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it is also inside of me. Dialogue: 0,0:02:31.20,0:02:37.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But supposing that everything comes \Nfrom the arising of conditions, Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.55,0:02:46.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I see it as if everything\Ncomes from God's plan Dialogue: 0,0:02:46.66,0:02:49.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is that everything is good. Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.06,0:02:53.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I get anxiety, I get depression,\NI get ill health Dialogue: 0,0:02:53.65,0:02:55.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is a blessing. Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.86,0:02:59.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If I get good health,\NI get a Sangha, I get a teaching, Dialogue: 0,0:02:59.81,0:03:02.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is a blessing. Dialogue: 0,0:03:02.70,0:03:06.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I cannot see it as if\Neverything arises from conditions. Dialogue: 0,0:03:07.17,0:03:12.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I see it as a path of compassion Dialogue: 0,0:03:12.31,0:03:15.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and everything arises from compassion. Dialogue: 0,0:03:16.19,0:03:19.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Sister) Dear Thay, dear Sangha, Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.31,0:03:23.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our friend Frances\Nwas named after the monk Dialogue: 0,0:03:23.58,0:03:26.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Saint Francis of Assisi. Dialogue: 0,0:03:27.09,0:03:29.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,First of all she expressed to Thay Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.45,0:03:32.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how inspired she was by\NThay's teachings of the bell yesterday. Dialogue: 0,0:03:32.94,0:03:35.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She has made a vow to herself Dialogue: 0,0:03:35.99,0:03:39.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to continue Thay and\Nto really master this practice Dialogue: 0,0:03:39.48,0:03:42.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to live the insight\Nof the gatha deeply Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.96,0:03:46.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to transcend her own anxiety and sorrow. Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.93,0:03:49.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Her first partial question is: Dialogue: 0,0:03:49.92,0:03:53.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How, with such a strong vow,\Nshe can do that Dialogue: 0,0:03:53.28,0:03:56.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without having\Na too strong sense of a self. Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.30,0:04:03.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How can she realize her vow\Nto overcome difficulties in her life Dialogue: 0,0:04:03.48,0:04:05.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to heal herself. Dialogue: 0,0:04:05.56,0:04:09.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For example, in order to truly transcend\Nanxiety and sorrow Dialogue: 0,0:04:10.07,0:04:13.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she knows she will have to\Nmake a lot of burning decisions Dialogue: 0,0:04:13.39,0:04:15.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to change her way of life Dialogue: 0,0:04:15.38,0:04:19.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,against the opinions of those around her,\Nher family and society. Dialogue: 0,0:04:20.26,0:04:25.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How can she realize that vow without\Nhaving too strong a sense of self? Dialogue: 0,0:04:25.64,0:04:29.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The second part of her question is Dialogue: 0,0:04:30.82,0:04:34.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that when she experiences\Ndifficulties in her life, Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.89,0:04:38.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whether it is anxiety,\Nor depression or ill health, Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.87,0:04:42.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she understands this\Nas being a gift from God. Dialogue: 0,0:04:43.14,0:04:46.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Frances is a Christian Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.78,0:04:50.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so she takes these as a blessing, Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.65,0:04:53.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is part of God's plan. Dialogue: 0,0:04:58.71,0:05:01.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So her question is: Dialogue: 0,0:05:01.72,0:05:06.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She sees God as something both\Noutside of herself and inside her. Dialogue: 0,0:05:06.53,0:05:11.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But is it true that God is good, that\Neverything that God sends her is good? Dialogue: 0,0:05:12.52,0:05:15.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that she should receive it as good? Dialogue: 0,0:05:25.06,0:05:28.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Frances is aware that\Neverything arises from conditions. Dialogue: 0,0:05:28.98,0:05:33.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can we see God's world\Nin these conditions? Dialogue: 0,0:05:36.68,0:05:40.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You spoke about the death of the self. Dialogue: 0,0:05:48.46,0:05:51.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The dying of the self. Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.20,0:05:54.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't think that the self has to die, Dialogue: 0,0:05:54.49,0:05:57.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because there is no self to die. Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.28,0:05:59.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:05:59.76,0:06:02.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The self is just a view, Dialogue: 0,0:06:03.78,0:06:06.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a wrong view, a notion. Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.51,0:06:08.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is not reality. Dialogue: 0,0:06:08.71,0:06:13.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So there is no need for something\Nthat is not there to die. Dialogue: 0,0:06:16.55,0:06:20.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We should not try to kill the self. Dialogue: 0,0:06:21.19,0:06:24.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But you can remove the illusion Dialogue: 0,0:06:25.72,0:06:31.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by having a deep vision of reality, Dialogue: 0,0:06:34.68,0:06:40.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,practicing the meditation\Non impermanence, Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.92,0:06:45.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because everything\Nis changing so quickly, Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.88,0:06:50.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and naturally the notion\Nof the self is no longer there. Dialogue: 0,0:06:50.82,0:06:55.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because the self is something\Nthat is everlasting, Dialogue: 0,0:06:55.68,0:06:57.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,remaining the same. Dialogue: 0,0:07:00.25,0:07:03.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We may ask whether God is a self or not. Dialogue: 0,0:07:06.29,0:07:10.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is sure that God is not a self. Dialogue: 0,0:07:11.88,0:07:16.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If God is a self,\Nthen all of us are selves. Dialogue: 0,0:07:16.47,0:07:20.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A big self or small selves. Dialogue: 0,0:07:25.51,0:07:31.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If there is a me, a self, Dialogue: 0,0:07:31.64,0:07:36.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there should be a non me\Nexisting at the same time. Dialogue: 0,0:07:39.50,0:07:44.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We can accept the self as a reality. Dialogue: 0,0:07:46.07,0:07:55.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On the conventional level of truth\Nwe can speak of me, I and you, Dialogue: 0,0:07:57.87,0:08:00.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he and she, Dialogue: 0,0:08:00.37,0:08:04.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because that designation is useful. Dialogue: 0,0:08:05.24,0:08:08.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is called conventional designation. Dialogue: 0,0:08:08.94,0:08:11.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we don't have\Nthese conventional designations, Dialogue: 0,0:08:12.02,0:08:15.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we cannot talk,\Nwe cannot do business. Dialogue: 0,0:08:16.79,0:08:21.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I, you, this and that Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.46,0:08:26.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are called conventional designations. Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.42,0:08:32.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The problem is that we have to be aware\Nthat it is only conventional designation, Dialogue: 0,0:08:32.71,0:08:35.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we are free from them. Dialogue: 0,0:08:35.17,0:08:39.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We can make good use of them\Nbut you are free from them. Dialogue: 0,0:08:39.92,0:08:45.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And as I said, even the Buddha,\Nhe had to be free from the Buddha. Dialogue: 0,0:08:49.08,0:08:52.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was a Zen teacher. Dialogue: 0,0:08:52.36,0:08:55.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One day, in his Dharma talk, he said: Dialogue: 0,0:08:57.07,0:09:00.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'I am allergic to the word Buddha'. Dialogue: 0,0:09:00.88,0:09:02.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:09:03.57,0:09:06.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'But sometimes I have to\Npronounce the word Buddha. Dialogue: 0,0:09:06.62,0:09:08.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But you know, my friends? Dialogue: 0,0:09:08.77,0:09:11.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every time that I have to\Nutter the word Buddha, Dialogue: 0,0:09:11.75,0:09:14.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after that I have to go to the bathroom Dialogue: 0,0:09:14.68,0:09:17.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and rinse my mouth three times.' Dialogue: 0,0:09:17.87,0:09:19.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:09:19.58,0:09:22.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is the way the Zen people talk. Dialogue: 0,0:09:22.38,0:09:23.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.14,0:09:26.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They want to speak about freedom. Dialogue: 0,0:09:26.78,0:09:29.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even freedom from the Buddha. Dialogue: 0,0:09:31.34,0:09:34.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Zen teachers have their own way, Dialogue: 0,0:09:34.74,0:09:38.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and their way is sometimes very strong. Dialogue: 0,0:09:39.06,0:09:41.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'I'm allergic to the word Buddha. Dialogue: 0,0:09:41.36,0:09:43.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every time I have to\Npronounce the word Buddha, Dialogue: 0,0:09:44.07,0:09:48.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have to go to bath\Nand rinse my mouth.' Dialogue: 0,0:09:48.56,0:09:51.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is something not very clean. Dialogue: 0,0:09:52.06,0:09:54.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is a very strong statement. Dialogue: 0,0:09:54.82,0:09:56.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then, in those days, Dialogue: 0,0:09:57.09,0:10:00.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there was a Zen student who stoop up Dialogue: 0,0:10:01.18,0:10:03.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and said: Dialogue: 0,0:10:03.96,0:10:06.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Dear teacher, Dialogue: 0,0:10:07.03,0:10:10.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am also allergic to the word Buddha. Dialogue: 0,0:10:10.52,0:10:14.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every time I hear you\Npronounce the word Buddha, Dialogue: 0,0:10:14.34,0:10:16.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have to go to the river Dialogue: 0,0:10:16.50,0:10:20.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and wash my ears, three times! Dialogue: 0,0:10:20.27,0:10:22.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:10:23.85,0:10:27.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that is a good\Nteacher-student couple. Dialogue: 0,0:10:27.95,0:10:29.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:10:29.63,0:10:32.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are free from words and notions. Dialogue: 0,0:10:33.05,0:10:37.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even from words like Buddha or God. Dialogue: 0,0:10:37.60,0:10:39.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are free from the notions. Dialogue: 0,0:10:40.09,0:10:45.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because you may get \NBuddha and God only as notions Dialogue: 0,0:10:45.47,0:10:48.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and not the truth, the reality. Dialogue: 0,0:10:49.55,0:10:52.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you have to be very careful. Dialogue: 0,0:10:54.24,0:10:59.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Of course you have learned\Nabout dependent origination. Dialogue: 0,0:11:00.40,0:11:07.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Remember we have\Nthat example on the clouds. Dialogue: 0,0:11:08.27,0:11:12.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are many clouds in the sky. Dialogue: 0,0:11:14.31,0:11:18.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These clouds interact with each other. Dialogue: 0,0:11:20.28,0:11:23.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They produce each other. Dialogue: 0,0:11:25.10,0:11:30.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is the lateral,\Nhorizontal relationship Dialogue: 0,0:11:31.36,0:11:34.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we all know that all clouds\Ncome from the ocean. Dialogue: 0,0:11:34.84,0:11:38.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So there is a vertical relationship. Dialogue: 0,0:11:40.10,0:11:43.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You are a cloud,\Nyou carry the ocean with you. Dialogue: 0,0:11:43.61,0:11:45.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You are a human being Dialogue: 0,0:11:45.79,0:11:48.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but you carry God inside of you. Dialogue: 0,0:11:48.92,0:11:51.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is a vertical relationship. Dialogue: 0,0:11:52.25,0:11:57.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So there is the horizontal explanation Dialogue: 0,0:11:58.20,0:12:01.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there is a vertical one. Dialogue: 0,0:12:01.31,0:12:08.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But these two should not be distinguished\Nas two separate things. Dialogue: 0,0:12:09.29,0:12:13.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Looking into the horizontal\Nyou see the vertical. Dialogue: 0,0:12:13.95,0:12:17.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And looking deeply into the vertical\Nyou see the horizontal. Dialogue: 0,0:12:18.09,0:12:20.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But you have to remove Dialogue: 0,0:12:20.24,0:12:24.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the notion of horizontal\Nand vertical at the same time. Dialogue: 0,0:12:27.46,0:12:29.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have learned Dialogue: 0,0:12:29.69,0:12:32.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that notions like being and not being, Dialogue: 0,0:12:33.60,0:12:36.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,good and evil have to be removed. Dialogue: 0,0:12:37.96,0:12:44.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because that is the way \Nour mind consciousness perceives things. Dialogue: 0,0:12:47.47,0:12:51.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you describe God\Nas the ground of being, Dialogue: 0,0:12:53.04,0:12:59.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we lock Him, we lock Her into a notion, Dialogue: 0,0:12:59.39,0:13:01.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the notion of being. Dialogue: 0,0:13:02.62,0:13:05.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If God is the ground of being, Dialogue: 0,0:13:05.33,0:13:08.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who will be the ground of non-being? Dialogue: 0,0:13:09.03,0:13:13.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we cannot think of God\Nin terms of being and non-being. Dialogue: 0,0:13:15.68,0:13:19.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,God transcends the terms\Nbeing and non being. Dialogue: 0,0:13:19.90,0:13:22.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As the Buddha said: Dialogue: 0,0:13:22.23,0:13:28.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'The right view is a view that transcends\Nboth the notions of being and non-being.' Dialogue: 0,0:13:30.15,0:13:32.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not only that, Dialogue: 0,0:13:32.27,0:13:37.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the right view is also the view that\Ntranscends the notions of good and evil. Dialogue: 0,0:13:39.35,0:13:45.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you say that God is in control\Nof the Kingdom of the Goodness, Dialogue: 0,0:13:45.74,0:13:50.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who will be in control\Nof the Kingdom of Evil? Dialogue: 0,0:13:51.69,0:13:57.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So God ultimately transcends\Nboth the notion of good and evil. Dialogue: 0,0:13:59.50,0:14:01.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Until you see that, Dialogue: 0,0:14:02.17,0:14:07.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you cannot see\Nthe plan of God, his intention. Dialogue: 0,0:14:10.10,0:14:12.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that means you are pulled to say that Dialogue: 0,0:14:13.00,0:14:16.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if God is compassionate, Dialogue: 0,0:14:17.14,0:14:24.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why He has created something like death, Dialogue: 0,0:14:25.96,0:14:32.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tsunamis, tempest and things like that? Dialogue: 0,0:14:34.29,0:14:38.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why He has allowed\Nthese things to happen? Dialogue: 0,0:14:38.64,0:14:40.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Delusions are trying to say: Dialogue: 0,0:14:40.94,0:14:46.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'This is for you to learn,\Nthat is also good for you.' Dialogue: 0,0:14:47.30,0:14:51.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But our mind is inclined to think Dialogue: 0,0:14:51.39,0:14:56.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that what is good\Nis not causing suffering. Dialogue: 0,0:14:58.23,0:15:01.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Only the bad things are called suffering. Dialogue: 0,0:15:01.50,0:15:04.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that is our mind of discrimination. Dialogue: 0,0:15:04.42,0:15:09.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We should not use\Nthat mind of discrimination Dialogue: 0,0:15:13.85,0:15:17.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in order to try to understand God. Dialogue: 0,0:15:18.59,0:15:22.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is why the deepest way, Dialogue: 0,0:15:22.40,0:15:25.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the most wonderful way\Nto touch the ultimate Dialogue: 0,0:15:25.67,0:15:28.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to remove notions. Dialogue: 0,0:15:28.26,0:15:32.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Including the notions of\Nbeing and non-being, good and evil. Dialogue: 0,0:15:32.71,0:15:37.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have learned that for alayavijñana\Neverything is a wonder. Dialogue: 0,0:15:38.80,0:15:41.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is no good and evil in it. Dialogue: 0,0:15:41.52,0:15:43.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is no being and non being in it. Dialogue: 0,0:15:43.81,0:15:47.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Only mind consciousness\Nhas these notions. Dialogue: 0,0:15:47.27,0:15:49.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are caught in these notions. Dialogue: 0,0:15:50.67,0:15:53.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These notions may be useful. Dialogue: 0,0:15:54.10,0:15:57.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But if you are caught in them,\Nyou suffer. Dialogue: 0,0:15:59.01,0:16:00.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Bell) Dialogue: 0,0:16:04.10,0:16:10.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Bell)