1 00:00:08,316 --> 00:00:10,080 ANNOUNCER: Live in downtown St. Louis with more on   2 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:11,920 our first story at six. NEWSCASTER: Washington   3 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:15,822 University is sponsoring the event called The St. Louis Projection. 4 00:00:16,080 --> 00:00:20,520 In this case, the movie shows crime victims and inmates sharing their stories, 5 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:22,109 showing only their hands. 6 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,118 The building representing  the other parts of the body. 7 00:00:26,580 --> 00:00:30,120 KRZYSZTOF WODICZKO: In St. Louis I turn to the   8 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:35,000 very beautifully designed building of the central public library. 9 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:37,483 SPEAKER: Check, check, check. 10 00:00:39,719 --> 00:00:40,933 SPEAKER: Yeah, that’s very nice. 11 00:00:41,255 --> 00:00:45,720 WODICZKO: Inside the building,  participants were sitting  12 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:49,749 with cameras pointed on the person’s hands. 13 00:00:51,230 --> 00:00:52,880 SPEAKER: Hi, my name is Diana. 14 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:54,448 SPEAKER: Hi Diana. 15 00:00:54,448 --> 00:00:58,160 WODICZKO: Outside, it’s a kind of open mike. 16 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,720 Anybody can come forward to  speak back to the building 17 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,960 trying to prevent perpetuation of the murders, 18 00:01:05,960 --> 00:01:10,000 killing, and gun violence in St. Louis. 19 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:17,320 This type of projection brings more opportunities for more people to join each other 20 00:01:17,320 --> 00:01:21,909 in an attempt to speak up and open up. 21 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:28,321 Open up and share in public space, 22 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:32,349 something that is usually  relegated to private domain. 23 00:01:34,047 --> 00:01:38,560 SPEAKER: We never expect  to bury our grandchildren, 24 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:44,560 and when we do, it’s the most  horrible feeling in the world. 25 00:01:45,635 --> 00:01:48,500 SPEAKER: And when I see  Riley’s two little children,  26 00:01:49,034 --> 00:01:53,560 growing up, without their daddy, 27 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,240 it just breaks my heart. 28 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:56,881 SPEAKER: Yes. 29 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:02,880 When it’s your loved one, it’s not an easy thing. 30 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:04,232 You don’t forget. 31 00:02:07,585 --> 00:02:10,320 SPEAKER: Now that it’s been a couple years, 32 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:15,280 how are you and your family handling birthdays, 33 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,020 holidays, family get-togethers? 34 00:02:19,568 --> 00:02:21,520 SPEAKER: You always have that empty space, 35 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:22,680 but it never goes away 36 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,958 because there’s a hole in your  heart that nothing can ever fill it. 37 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,960 People don’t have a clue of how we feel, 38 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,520 because on the outside it looks like we’re okay, 39 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:36,760 but on the inside we’re  slowly in little bit every day 40 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:38,443 like we feel like we’re dying. 41 00:02:42,528 --> 00:02:48,360 SPEAKER: This eternal flame burns  in memory of Christopher King, 42 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:53,054 age 20, murdered on August 26, 1986. 43 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,447 It burns in memory of J.A. King, 44 00:02:56,920 --> 00:03:02,402 murdered on April 7, 1991, age 27. 45 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,440 It burns in memory of Adam Enis.... 46 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,842 WODICZKO: The Revolutionary battle on Bunker Hill 47 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:14,160 somehow connected with the daily struggle of 48 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:20,742 Charlestown residents who are living  in the shadow of this monument. 49 00:03:22,763 --> 00:03:27,383 Overlooking the area in which  on weekly or monthly basis 50 00:03:27,920 --> 00:03:30,760 someone was murdered, killed. 51 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:38,080 So the battle perhaps continues  not that it should of course, 52 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:44,940 but unfortunately it does for life,  liberty and pursuit of happiness. 53 00:03:46,294 --> 00:03:48,600 SPEAKER: When I was 17 my brother Kevin was found 54 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,411 hanging in a prison cell, Bridgewater. 55 00:03:52,378 --> 00:03:55,098 The gangsters knew that he knew too much, 56 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:57,578 and I believe that they killed him. 57 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:00,597 It was made to look like a suicide. 58 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:03,575 And it was never investigated. 59 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,870 But everyone in the streets has  always told me that he was killed. 60 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:14,000 We no a lot more in the streets than we  tell the outside world or the police. 61 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,314 And everyone knows the truth  about things that go on. 62 00:04:18,840 --> 00:04:20,357 But we just keep quiet. 63 00:04:22,198 --> 00:04:28,800 WODICZKO: They eventually develop some  trust to break the code of silence. 64 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:34,221 To open up and speak about what’s unspeakable. 65 00:04:36,220 --> 00:04:38,640 SPEAKER: I think a lot of you people wonder why… 66 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:40,280 why am I up here. 67 00:04:40,280 --> 00:04:41,920 I’m no special person. 68 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,021 Just an ordinary person, just like you. 69 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,880 But all I can say is just  take a look at your family. 70 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:50,600 The ones that you love. 71 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:54,320 And what would you do if one  of them was taken from you? 72 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:55,720 How would you fight back? 73 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,800 Still try to have a heart that can still love, 74 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:00,560 and be a person that can care. 75 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:02,240 It’s not very easy. 76 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:06,546 My son, Adam, all I can say is that  I love you, and I will do my best. 77 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,019 And some day I’ll see you. 78 00:05:15,555 --> 00:05:17,560 WODICZKO: I need to make sketches. 79 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:23,040 I need to make sure the body of  the speaker fits well the outline, 80 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:26,000 the character of the body of the monument. 81 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,680 So they both are integrated. 82 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,880 But I realize with time that  there must be another reason why 83 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:35,880 I’m preoccupying myself so  much with those drawings. 84 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:40,355 I need to keep certain  distance from what people say. 85 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:47,440 Somehow, the process of  making sketches keeps me sane. 86 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:52,644 Because I can not relive each time what I hear. 87 00:05:53,267 --> 00:05:55,280 In case of anybody my position, 88 00:05:55,280 --> 00:06:01,852 it will trigger my own experiences  or perhaps even trauma. 89 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,885 So I need to have something in between. 90 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:12,576 Something in between for them  is the camera and the monument, 91 00:06:14,317 --> 00:06:18,785 and what it is for me, perhaps, the sketchbook. 92 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,880 I receive Hiroshima Art Prize, 93 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:31,386 the condition was that I will organize retrospective exhibition of my work. 94 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:37,200 This gave me motivation to  do a large public project  95 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:41,920 in Hiroshima I propose a projection. 96 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:50,000 Which was to take place the night  after the anniversary of bombing. 97 00:06:51,038 --> 00:06:58,198 My mother being a Jew whose entire family was killed during ghetto uprising in Poland 98 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:02,879 gave birth to me in the midst of all of this, 99 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,720 my childhood was on the ruins of war. 100 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:12,120 Physical, political, and perhaps moral, 101 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:13,919 definitely psychological, 102 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:20,080 so I started working on my  projection with this assumption. 103 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:30,453 That we’re going to re-actualize one of  the few structures that survive bombing, 104 00:07:30,453 --> 00:07:32,440 that is just underneath of  the epicenter of explosion. 105 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:36,840 To re-animate it with the voices and gestures of 106 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:42,251 present day inhabitants of  Hiroshima from various generations. 107 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:52,789 I started to talk to associations  of survivors of bombing. 108 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,840 I need to quickly develop some trust, 109 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:01,400 so they can really open up towards me. 110 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,520 Without developing of trust, 111 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,334 there is no possibility for my work. 112 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:12,120 The participants could not speak very long, 113 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,797 interrupted by their own tears. 114 00:08:20,817 --> 00:08:23,280 SPEAKER (in Japanese): I saw many dead  or dying children. It was horrible. 115 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:29,440 WODICZKO: I seem to be working with people who managed to survive, 116 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:37,920 and heal themselves to the point towards reconnecting with society, with others. 117 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:42,760 Helping others to understand  at least a little bit, 118 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,301 a small part of what they went through. 119 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:51,171 To open up and share with  the world what is so painful. 120 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:59,920 The memorial should be a vehicle through which 121 00:08:59,920 --> 00:09:04,280 the past and the future converge. 122 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:12,092 The river became a graveyard for both  people and buildings in Hiroshima. 123 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:22,948 As both a tragic witness but also  as a hope, because it’s moving. 124 00:09:24,560 --> 00:09:26,825 There is new water coming. 125 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:40,360 Tijuana, it’s a border for many people 126 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,880 who came from poor provinces 127 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:48,101 who tried to advance their life moving north. 128 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:53,550 This building is a very important  symbolic structure in Tijuana. 129 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,400 It’s almost like a symbol of the city. 130 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:58,920 Landmark. 131 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:09,240 So here we have the kind of  variable television studio 132 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:13,280 with camera and lights and microphone, 133 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:19,396 to project the face with  precision onto the façade. 134 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:25,280 So the camera would be always in the same position 135 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:31,520 in relation to human head no matter  where this person is looking. 136 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:38,184 So the boundary between architecture  and projected body would be blurred. 137 00:10:39,560 --> 00:10:42,734 The skin of the building  and the skin of the person 138 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:47,920 will be background and  foreground at the same time. 139 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:49,734 Will be shifting focus. 140 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:56,430 In Tijuana, ninety percent of  labor are young women, girls. 141 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:03,840 They work in ways that we don’t  even imagine some of them. 142 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:08,131 The issues that were brought were taboo, 143 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:14,300 were issues of incest, rape. 144 00:11:15,301 --> 00:11:19,539 SPANISH SPEAKER: He closed the  door and then came into the room. 145 00:11:21,248 --> 00:11:27,430 He grabbed me by force. He threw me on the bed. 146 00:11:27,586 --> 00:11:30,687 He covered my mouth. I could not scream. 147 00:11:32,106 --> 00:11:35,924 He abused me and he told me  that if I were to say anything, 148 00:11:35,924 --> 00:11:41,634 he would hurt my family, my  grandmother, my mother, my uncles. 149 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:47,360 WODICZKO:  I think that people were there to  support what they were hearing, 150 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:51,903 even if what they were hearing  and seeing was unbearable. 151 00:11:57,434 --> 00:12:02,658 SPANISH SPEAKER: Sometimes I have nightmares. 152 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,555 That I am always there. 153 00:12:09,437 --> 00:12:12,919 That I can’t do anything. That no one can help me. 154 00:12:14,792 --> 00:12:17,631 WODICZKO:   Sometimes it’s easier to be honest 155 00:12:17,631 --> 00:12:20,200 speaking to thousands of people through monument 156 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,200 than to tell the truth at home, 157 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:24,667 to the closest person. 158 00:12:25,527 --> 00:12:29,098 SPANISH   SPEAKER: He hit us with the butt of his gun. 159 00:12:31,054 --> 00:12:35,648 We saw Hector lying there  on the ground, all bloody. 160 00:12:41,375 --> 00:12:44,709 We spoke to him but he didn’t answer. 161 00:12:47,260 --> 00:12:53,134 Then we told Wendy’s mother  that they had taken her away. 162 00:12:53,462 --> 00:12:57,312 She was found half-naked. The  doctor us she had been raped. 163 00:12:58,612 --> 00:13:01,176 She lasted two months in a coma. 164 00:13:15,344 --> 00:13:23,748 He had become a vegetable from  the blows he had received.