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Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.78,0:00:03.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to talk about sex for money.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:03.41,0:00:06.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not like most of the people\Nyou'll have heard speaking
Dialogue: 0,0:00:06.21,0:00:07.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about prostitution before.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:07.54,0:00:10.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not a police officer\Nor a social worker.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:11.11,0:00:13.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not an academic,\Na journalist or a politician.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:14.33,0:00:17.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And as you'll probably have\Npicked up from Maryam's blurb,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:17.10,0:00:18.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not a nun, either.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:18.33,0:00:19.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter)
Dialogue: 0,0:00:19.44,0:00:23.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Most of those people would tell you\Nthat selling sex is degrading;
Dialogue: 0,0:00:23.43,0:00:25.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that no one would ever choose to do it;
Dialogue: 0,0:00:25.59,0:00:28.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that it's dangerous;\Nwomen get abused and killed.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:29.04,0:00:30.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fact, most of those people would say,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.99,0:00:32.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"There should be a law against it!"
Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.80,0:00:34.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe that sounds reasonable to you.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:35.90,0:00:39.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It sounded reasonable to me\Nuntil the closing months of 2009,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:39.83,0:00:43.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when I was working two dead-end,\Nminimum-wage jobs.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:43.79,0:00:47.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every month my wages would just\Nreplenish my overdraft.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.07,0:00:49.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was exhausted and my life\Nwas going nowhere.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:50.12,0:00:52.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like many others before me,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:52.06,0:00:54.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I decided sex for money\Nwas a better option.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.20,0:00:56.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now don't get me wrong --
Dialogue: 0,0:00:56.46,0:00:58.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would have loved\Nto have won the lottery instead.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:58.90,0:01:00.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it wasn't going\Nto happen anytime soon,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.02,0:01:02.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and my rent needed paying.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:02.83,0:01:05.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I signed up for my first\Nshift in a brothel.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.26,0:01:08.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the years that have passed,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.04,0:01:09.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've had a lot of time to think.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:10.30,0:01:13.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've reconsidered the ideas\NI once had about prostitution.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.94,0:01:15.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've given a lot of thought to consent
Dialogue: 0,0:01:15.87,0:01:18.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the nature of work under capitalism.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:18.55,0:01:20.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've thought about gender inequality
Dialogue: 0,0:01:20.36,0:01:22.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the sexual and reproductive\Nlabor of women.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:23.50,0:01:26.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've experienced exploitation\Nand violence at work.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:27.14,0:01:28.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've thought about what's needed
Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.74,0:01:30.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to protect other sex workers\Nfrom these things.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.100,0:01:33.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe you've thought about them, too.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:33.13,0:01:34.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In this talk,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.31,0:01:36.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'll take you through\Nthe four main legal approaches
Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.80,0:01:38.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,applied to sex work throughout the world,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:38.81,0:01:40.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and explain why they don't work;
Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.40,0:01:43.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why prohibiting the sex industry\Nactually exacerbates every harm
Dialogue: 0,0:01:43.58,0:01:45.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that sex workers are vulnerable to.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.12,0:01:50.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then I'm going tell you about what we,\Nas sex workers, actually want.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.51,0:01:54.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The first approach\Nis full criminalization.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:54.93,0:01:56.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Half the world,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:56.10,0:01:58.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,including Russia, South Africa\Nand most of the US,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.62,0:02:01.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,regulates sex work by criminalizing\Neveryone involved.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:01.57,0:02:04.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that's seller, buyer and third parties.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.72,0:02:06.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lawmakers in these countries\Napparently hope
Dialogue: 0,0:02:06.83,0:02:10.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the fear of getting arrested\Nwill deter people from selling sex.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.73,0:02:13.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But if you're forced to choose\Nbetween obeying the law
Dialogue: 0,0:02:13.30,0:02:15.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and feeding yourself or your family,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.31,0:02:17.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're going to do the work anyway,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:17.11,0:02:18.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and take the risk.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.57,0:02:20.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Criminalization is a trap.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:20.94,0:02:24.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's hard to get a conventional job\Nwhen you have a criminal record.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.61,0:02:26.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Potential employers won't hire you.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.100,0:02:28.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Assuming you still need money,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:28.45,0:02:31.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you'll stay in the more flexible,\Ninformal economy.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:31.26,0:02:33.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The law forces you to keep selling sex,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:33.80,0:02:36.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is the exact opposite\Nof its intended effect.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:37.43,0:02:41.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Being criminalized leaves you exposed\Nto mistreatment by the state itself.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.57,0:02:44.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In many places you may be coerced\Ninto paying a bribe
Dialogue: 0,0:02:44.36,0:02:46.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or even into having sex\Nwith a police officer
Dialogue: 0,0:02:46.74,0:02:47.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to avoid arrest.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.43,0:02:51.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Police and prison guards\Nin Cambodia, for example,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:51.38,0:02:53.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have been documented\Nsubjecting sex workers
Dialogue: 0,0:02:53.43,0:02:55.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to what can only be described as torture:
Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.74,0:02:56.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,threats at gunpoint,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:56.92,0:02:59.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,beatings, electric shocks, rape
Dialogue: 0,0:02:59.74,0:03:01.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and denial of food.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.63,0:03:03.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Another worrying thing:
Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.34,0:03:07.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you're selling sex in places\Nlike Kenya, South Africa or New York,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:07.76,0:03:11.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a police officer can arrest you\Nif you're caught carrying condoms,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.48,0:03:15.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because condoms can legally be used\Nas evidence that you're selling sex.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:15.51,0:03:17.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Obviously, this increases HIV risk.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.97,0:03:20.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Imagine knowing if you're busted\Ncarrying condoms,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.46,0:03:22.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it'll be used against you.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.33,0:03:25.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a pretty strong incentive\Nto leave them at home, right?
Dialogue: 0,0:03:25.36,0:03:28.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sex workers working in these places\Nare forced to make a tough choice
Dialogue: 0,0:03:28.69,0:03:31.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between risking arrest\Nor having risky sex.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:32.03,0:03:33.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What would you choose?
Dialogue: 0,0:03:33.77,0:03:35.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Would you pack condoms to go to work?
Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.45,0:03:37.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How about if you're worried
Dialogue: 0,0:03:37.77,0:03:40.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the police officer would rape you\Nwhen he got you in the van?
Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.28,0:03:44.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The second approach to regulating\Nsex work seen in these countries
Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.83,0:03:46.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is partial criminalization,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.25,0:03:48.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where the buying and selling\Nof sex are legal,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:48.82,0:03:50.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but surrounding activities,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:50.14,0:03:53.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like brothel-keeping or soliciting\Non the street, are banned.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:53.86,0:03:55.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Laws like these --
Dialogue: 0,0:03:55.05,0:03:56.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we have them in the UK and in France --
Dialogue: 0,0:03:56.96,0:03:58.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,essentially say to us sex workers,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.64,0:04:00.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Hey, we don't mind you selling sex,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:00.48,0:04:02.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just make sure it's done\Nbehind closed doors
Dialogue: 0,0:04:02.59,0:04:04.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and all alone."
Dialogue: 0,0:04:04.10,0:04:05.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And brothel-keeping, by the way,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:05.91,0:04:08.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is defined as just two or more\Nsex workers working together.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:08.98,0:04:11.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Making that illegal means\Nthat many of us work alone,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:11.83,0:04:14.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which obviously makes us\Nvulnerable to violent offenders.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:14.68,0:04:15.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But we're also vulnerable
Dialogue: 0,0:04:15.94,0:04:18.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if we choose to break the law\Nby working together.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:19.43,0:04:20.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A couple of years ago,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:20.60,0:04:23.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a friend of mine was nervous\Nafter she was attacked at work,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:23.50,0:04:27.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I said that she could see her clients\Nfrom my place for a while.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:27.21,0:04:28.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,During that time,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:28.46,0:04:30.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we had another guy turn nasty.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:30.41,0:04:33.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I told the guy to leave\Nor I'd call the police.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:33.16,0:04:35.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he looked at the two of us and said,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.78,0:04:37.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"You girls can't call the cops.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.91,0:04:40.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're working together,\Nthis place is illegal."
Dialogue: 0,0:04:40.68,0:04:41.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was right.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:41.87,0:04:44.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He eventually left\Nwithout getting physically violent,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:44.48,0:04:46.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the knowledge\Nthat we were breaking the law
Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.73,0:04:48.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,empowered that man to threaten us.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:48.44,0:04:50.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He felt confident he'd get away with it.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.83,0:04:53.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The prohibition of street prostitution\Nalso causes more harm
Dialogue: 0,0:04:53.77,0:04:54.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than it prevents.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:54.94,0:04:56.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Firstly, to avoid getting arrested,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:56.96,0:04:59.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,street workers take risks\Nto avoid detection,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:59.25,0:05:00.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that means working alone
Dialogue: 0,0:05:00.63,0:05:02.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or in isolated locations like dark forests
Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.69,0:05:04.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where they're vulnerable to attack.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:04.77,0:05:06.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you're caught selling sex outdoors,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:06.69,0:05:07.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you pay a fine.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:08.35,0:05:11.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How do you pay that fine\Nwithout going back to the streets?
Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.18,0:05:13.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was the need for money\Nthat saw you in the streets
Dialogue: 0,0:05:13.75,0:05:14.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the first place.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:14.92,0:05:16.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so the fines stack up,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:16.47,0:05:18.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you're caught in a vicious cycle
Dialogue: 0,0:05:18.23,0:05:21.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of selling sex to pay the fines\Nyou got for selling sex.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:22.17,0:05:25.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let me tell you about Mariana Popa\Nwho worked in Redbridge, East London.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:25.92,0:05:29.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The street workers on her patch\Nwould normally wait for clients in groups
Dialogue: 0,0:05:29.47,0:05:30.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for safety in numbers
Dialogue: 0,0:05:30.79,0:05:33.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to warn each other about how\Nto avoid dangerous guys.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:34.14,0:05:37.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But during a police crackdown\Non sex workers and their clients,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:37.83,0:05:40.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she was forced to work alone\Nto avoid being arrested.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:41.45,0:05:45.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She was stabbed to death\Nin the early hours of October 29, 2013.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:46.01,0:05:47.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She had been working later than usual
Dialogue: 0,0:05:47.84,0:05:50.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to try to pay off a fine\Nshe had received for soliciting.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:51.99,0:05:54.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So if criminalizing\Nsex workers hurts them,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:54.75,0:05:57.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why not just criminalize\Nthe people who buy sex?
Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.85,0:05:59.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the aim of the third approach
Dialogue: 0,0:05:59.72,0:06:00.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to talk about --
Dialogue: 0,0:06:00.90,0:06:02.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Swedish or Nordic\Nmodel of sex-work law.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:03.01,0:06:04.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The idea behind this law
Dialogue: 0,0:06:04.26,0:06:06.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that selling sex\Nis intrinsically harmful
Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.75,0:06:10.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so you're, in fact, helping\Nsex workers by removing the option.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:10.84,0:06:12.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Despite growing support
Dialogue: 0,0:06:12.03,0:06:14.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for what's often described\Nas the "end demand" approach,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:14.73,0:06:16.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's no evidence that it works.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:16.40,0:06:19.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's just as much prostitution\Nin Sweden as there was before.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:19.76,0:06:21.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why might that be?
Dialogue: 0,0:06:22.04,0:06:23.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's because people selling sex
Dialogue: 0,0:06:23.59,0:06:25.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,often don't have other options for income.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:25.73,0:06:26.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you need that money,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:26.91,0:06:29.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the only effect that a drop\Nin business is going have
Dialogue: 0,0:06:29.41,0:06:31.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to force you to lower your prices
Dialogue: 0,0:06:31.16,0:06:33.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or offer more risky sexual services.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:33.59,0:06:35.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you need to find more clients,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:35.19,0:06:36.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you might seek the help of a manager.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:37.01,0:06:38.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you see, rather than putting a stop
Dialogue: 0,0:06:39.01,0:06:40.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to what's often descried as pimping,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:40.87,0:06:42.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a law like this actually gives oxygen
Dialogue: 0,0:06:42.92,0:06:44.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to potentially abusive third parties.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.61,0:06:47.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To keep safe in my work,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:47.44,0:06:49.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I try not to take bookings from someone
Dialogue: 0,0:06:49.36,0:06:51.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who calls me from a withheld number.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:51.13,0:06:53.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If it's a home or a hotel visit,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:53.08,0:06:55.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I try to get a full name and details.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:55.70,0:06:57.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If I worked under the Swedish model,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:57.85,0:07:00.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a client would be too scared\Nto give me that information.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:00.58,0:07:02.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I might have no other choice
Dialogue: 0,0:07:02.04,0:07:04.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but to accept a booking\Nfrom a man who is untraceable
Dialogue: 0,0:07:05.01,0:07:06.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if he later turns out to be violent.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:07.83,0:07:09.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you need their money,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:09.07,0:07:11.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you need to protect\Nyour clients from the police.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:11.47,0:07:12.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you work outdoors,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.65,0:07:15.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that means working alone\Nor in isolated locations,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:15.24,0:07:17.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just as if you were criminalized yourself.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:17.47,0:07:20.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It might mean getting into cars quicker,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:20.08,0:07:22.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,less negotiating time\Nmeans snap decisions.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:23.02,0:07:25.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is this guy dangerous or just nervous?
Dialogue: 0,0:07:26.14,0:07:27.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can you afford to take the risk?
Dialogue: 0,0:07:28.49,0:07:30.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can you afford not to?
Dialogue: 0,0:07:31.56,0:07:33.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Something I'm often hearing is,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:33.07,0:07:34.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Prostitution would be fine
Dialogue: 0,0:07:34.42,0:07:36.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if we made it legal and regulated it."
Dialogue: 0,0:07:36.82,0:07:38.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We call that approach legalization,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:38.63,0:07:41.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's used by countries\Nlike the Netherlands, Germany
Dialogue: 0,0:07:41.45,0:07:43.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Nevada in the US.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:43.67,0:07:45.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it's not a great\Nmodel for human rights.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:45.79,0:07:47.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in state-controlled prostitution,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:47.62,0:07:49.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,commercial sex can only happen
Dialogue: 0,0:07:49.20,0:07:51.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in certain legally-designated\Nareas or venues,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:51.52,0:07:54.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and sex workers are made to comply\Nwith special restrictions,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:54.53,0:07:57.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like registration\Nand forced health checks.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:58.01,0:08:00.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Regulation sounds great on paper,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:00.19,0:08:03.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but politicians deliberately make\Nregulation around the sex industry
Dialogue: 0,0:08:03.49,0:08:06.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,expensive and difficult to comply with.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:06.18,0:08:10.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It creates a two-tiered system:\Nlegal and illegal work.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:10.55,0:08:13.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We sometimes call it\N"backdoor criminalization."
Dialogue: 0,0:08:13.58,0:08:16.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rich, well-connected brothel owners\Ncan comply with the regulations,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:17.02,0:08:19.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but more marginalized people\Nfind those hoops
Dialogue: 0,0:08:19.22,0:08:21.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,impossible to jump through.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.20,0:08:23.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And even if it's possible in principle,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:23.19,0:08:26.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,getting a license or proper venue\Ntakes time and costs money.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.20,0:08:27.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not going to be an option
Dialogue: 0,0:08:27.70,0:08:30.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for someone who's desperate\Nand needs money tonight.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:30.18,0:08:33.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They might be a refugee\Nor fleeing domestic abuse.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:33.25,0:08:34.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In this two-tiered system,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:34.81,0:08:38.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the most vulnerable people\Nare forced to work illegally,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:38.07,0:08:41.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so they're still exposed to all\Nthe dangers of criminalization
Dialogue: 0,0:08:41.11,0:08:42.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mentioned earlier.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:42.57,0:08:43.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:43.75,0:08:45.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's looking like all attempts to control
Dialogue: 0,0:08:45.86,0:08:47.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or prevent sex work from happening
Dialogue: 0,0:08:47.56,0:08:50.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,makes things more dangerous\Nfor people selling sex.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:50.68,0:08:54.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Fear of law enforcement makes them\Nwork alone in isolated locations,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:54.13,0:08:55.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and allows clients and even cops
Dialogue: 0,0:08:55.86,0:08:58.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to get abusive in the knowledge\Nthey'll get away with it.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:58.66,0:09:01.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Fines and criminal records force\Npeople to keep selling sex,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:01.84,0:09:03.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rather than enabling them to stop.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:04.32,0:09:07.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Crackdowns on buyers drive sellers\Nto take dangerous risks
Dialogue: 0,0:09:07.13,0:09:09.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and into the arms\Nof potentially abusive managers.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:09.49,0:09:13.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These laws also reinforce stigma\Nand hatred against sex workers.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:13.28,0:09:16.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When France temporarily brought in\Nthe Swedish model two years ago,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:16.65,0:09:18.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ordinary citizens took it as a cue
Dialogue: 0,0:09:18.65,0:09:20.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to start carrying out vigilante attacks
Dialogue: 0,0:09:20.62,0:09:22.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,against people working on the street.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:22.79,0:09:24.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In Sweden, opinion surveys show
Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.81,0:09:28.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that significantly more people want\Nsex workers to be arrested now
Dialogue: 0,0:09:28.79,0:09:30.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than before the law was brought in.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:31.62,0:09:33.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If prohibition is this harmful,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:33.77,0:09:35.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you might ask, why it so popular?
Dialogue: 0,0:09:36.83,0:09:39.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Firstly, sex work is and always\Nhas been a survival strategy
Dialogue: 0,0:09:39.80,0:09:42.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for all kinds of unpopular\Nminority groups:
Dialogue: 0,0:09:42.73,0:09:43.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people of color,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:43.96,0:09:45.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,migrants,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:45.13,0:09:46.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people with disabilities,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:46.38,0:09:47.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LGBTQ people,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:47.60,0:09:49.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,particularly trans women.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:49.92,0:09:52.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These are the groups most heavily profiled
Dialogue: 0,0:09:52.05,0:09:54.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and punished through prohibitionist law.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:54.40,0:09:56.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't think this is an accident.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:56.40,0:09:58.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These laws have political support
Dialogue: 0,0:09:58.27,0:10:00.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,precisely because they target people
Dialogue: 0,0:10:00.93,0:10:03.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that voters don't want\Nto see or know about.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:04.69,0:10:07.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why else might people support prohibition?
Dialogue: 0,0:10:07.46,0:10:11.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, lots of people have\Nunderstandable fears about trafficking.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:11.66,0:10:15.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Folks think that foreign women\Nkidnapped and sold into sexual slavery
Dialogue: 0,0:10:15.54,0:10:18.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can be saved by shutting\Na whole industry down.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:18.56,0:10:20.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So let's talk about trafficking.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:21.16,0:10:24.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Forced labor does occur\Nin many industries,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:24.76,0:10:28.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,especially those where the workers\Nare migrants or otherwise vulnerable,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:28.37,0:10:30.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this needs to be addressed.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:30.54,0:10:34.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it's best addressed with legislation\Ntargeting those specific abuses,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:34.84,0:10:36.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not an entire industry.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:36.79,0:10:39.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When 23 undocumented Chinese migrants
Dialogue: 0,0:10:39.19,0:10:42.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,drowned while picking cockles\Nin Morecambe Bay in 2004,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:42.13,0:10:45.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there were no calls to outlaw\Nthe entire seafood industry
Dialogue: 0,0:10:45.09,0:10:47.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to save trafficking victims.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:47.18,0:10:50.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The solution is clearly to give\Nworkers more legal protections,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:50.56,0:10:52.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,allowing them to resist abuse
Dialogue: 0,0:10:52.35,0:10:55.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and report it to authorities\Nwithout fear of arrest.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:55.41,0:10:57.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The way the term trafficking\Nis thrown around
Dialogue: 0,0:10:57.74,0:11:01.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,implies that all undocumented\Nmigration into prostitution is forced.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:02.42,0:11:05.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fact, many migrants\Nhave made a decision,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:05.45,0:11:06.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out of economic need,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:06.73,0:11:09.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to place themselves into the hands\Nof people smugglers.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:09.54,0:11:11.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Many do this with the full knowledge
Dialogue: 0,0:11:11.34,0:11:14.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they'll be selling sex\Nwhen they reach their destination.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:14.57,0:11:16.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And yes, it can often be the case
Dialogue: 0,0:11:16.35,0:11:19.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that these people smugglers\Ndemand exorbitant fees,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:19.62,0:11:22.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,coerce migrants into work\Nthey don't want to do
Dialogue: 0,0:11:22.54,0:11:24.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and abuse them when they're vulnerable.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:24.46,0:11:25.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's true of prostitution,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:25.98,0:11:27.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it's also true of agricultural work,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:27.95,0:11:30.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hospitality work and domestic work.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:30.65,0:11:34.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ultimately, nobody wants\Nto be forced to do any kind of work,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:34.07,0:11:36.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but that's a risk many migrants\Nare willing to take,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:36.60,0:11:38.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because of what they're leaving behind.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:38.49,0:11:40.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If people were allowed to migrate legally
Dialogue: 0,0:11:40.47,0:11:44.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they wouldn't have to place their lives\Ninto the hands of people smugglers.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:44.03,0:11:45.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The problems arise
Dialogue: 0,0:11:45.21,0:11:47.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the criminalization of migration,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:47.06,0:11:49.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just as they do from the criminalization
Dialogue: 0,0:11:49.04,0:11:50.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of sex work itself.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:50.22,0:11:51.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a lesson of history.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:51.82,0:11:55.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you try to prohibit something\Nthat people want or need to do,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:55.49,0:11:59.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whether that's drinking alcohol\Nor crossing borders
Dialogue: 0,0:11:59.09,0:12:00.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or getting an abortion
Dialogue: 0,0:12:00.41,0:12:01.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or selling sex,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:02.37,0:12:04.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you create more problems than you solve.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:04.40,0:12:06.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Prohibition barely makes a difference
Dialogue: 0,0:12:06.21,0:12:08.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the amount of people\Nactually doing those things.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:08.67,0:12:10.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it makes a huge difference
Dialogue: 0,0:12:10.18,0:12:13.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as to whether or not\Nthey're safe when they do them.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:13.59,0:12:15.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why else might people support prohibition?
Dialogue: 0,0:12:16.79,0:12:20.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As a feminist, I know\Nthat the sex industry is a site
Dialogue: 0,0:12:20.18,0:12:23.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of deeply entrenched social inequality.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:23.08,0:12:26.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a fact that most buyers of sex\Nare men with money,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:26.16,0:12:28.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and most sellers are women without.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:28.47,0:12:30.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can agree with all that -- I do --
Dialogue: 0,0:12:31.39,0:12:34.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and still think prohibition\Nis a terrible policy.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:34.78,0:12:36.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In a better, more equal world,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:36.94,0:12:40.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maybe there would be far fewer\Npeople selling sex to survive,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:40.60,0:12:44.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but you can't simply legislate\Na better world into existence.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:44.23,0:12:46.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If someone needs to sell sex\Nbecause they're poor
Dialogue: 0,0:12:46.74,0:12:48.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or because they're homeless
Dialogue: 0,0:12:48.21,0:12:51.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or because they're undocumented\Nand they can't find legal work,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:51.37,0:12:54.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,taking away that option\Ndoesn't make them any less poor
Dialogue: 0,0:12:54.95,0:12:56.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or house them
Dialogue: 0,0:12:56.60,0:12:58.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or change their immigration status.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:58.58,0:13:01.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People worry that selling\Nsex is degrading.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:01.63,0:13:04.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ask yourself: is it more degrading\Nthan going hungry
Dialogue: 0,0:13:04.93,0:13:06.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or seeing your children go hungry?
Dialogue: 0,0:13:07.37,0:13:10.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's no call to ban rich people\Nfrom hiring nannies
Dialogue: 0,0:13:10.39,0:13:11.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or getting manicures,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:11.67,0:13:15.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even though most of the people\Ndoing that labor are poor, migrant women.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:15.32,0:13:19.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's the fact of poor migrant women\Nselling sex specifically
Dialogue: 0,0:13:19.49,0:13:21.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that has some feminists uncomfortable.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:22.48,0:13:23.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I can understand
Dialogue: 0,0:13:23.66,0:13:26.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why the sex industry provokes\Nstrong feelings.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:26.41,0:13:29.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People have all kinds\Nof complicated feelings
Dialogue: 0,0:13:29.45,0:13:30.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when it comes to sex.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:31.55,0:13:34.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But we can't make policy\Non the basis of mere feelings,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:34.82,0:13:36.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,especially not over\Nthe heads of the people
Dialogue: 0,0:13:36.90,0:13:38.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually effected by those policies.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:38.66,0:13:41.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we get fixated on\Nthe abolition of sex work,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:41.31,0:13:43.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we end up worrying more\Nabout a particular manifestation
Dialogue: 0,0:13:43.99,0:13:45.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of gender inequality,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:45.43,0:13:47.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rather than about the underlying causes.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:48.33,0:13:50.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People get really hung up on the question,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:50.79,0:13:53.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Well, would you want\Nyour daughter doing it?"
Dialogue: 0,0:13:53.28,0:13:54.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the wrong question.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:55.22,0:13:57.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Instead, imagine she is doing it.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:58.54,0:14:00.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How safe is she at work tonight?
Dialogue: 0,0:14:01.16,0:14:02.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why isn't she safer?
Dialogue: 0,0:14:04.50,0:14:07.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we've looked at full criminalization,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:07.44,0:14:10.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,partial criminalization,\Nthe Swedish or Nordic Model
Dialogue: 0,0:14:10.47,0:14:11.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and legalization,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:11.68,0:14:13.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how they all cause harm.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:13.36,0:14:16.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Something I never hear asked is:
Dialogue: 0,0:14:16.84,0:14:18.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"What do sex workers want?"
Dialogue: 0,0:14:19.57,0:14:22.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After all, we're the ones\Nmost affected by these laws.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:23.12,0:14:25.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,New Zealand decriminalized\Nsex work in 2003.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:26.53,0:14:28.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's crucial to remember
Dialogue: 0,0:14:28.46,0:14:31.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that decriminalization and legalization\Nare not the same thing.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:31.93,0:14:34.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Decriminalization means\Nthe removal of laws
Dialogue: 0,0:14:34.84,0:14:36.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that punitively target the sex industry,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:36.91,0:14:40.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,instead treating sex work\Nmuch like any other kind of work.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:40.35,0:14:43.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In New Zealand, people\Ncan work together for safety,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:43.19,0:14:45.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and employers of sex workers\Nare accountable to the state.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:45.97,0:14:48.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A sex worker can refuse\Nto see a client at any time,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:48.68,0:14:50.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for any reason,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:50.16,0:14:52.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and 96 percent of street workers
Dialogue: 0,0:14:52.66,0:14:55.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,report that they feel the law\Nprotects their rights.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:55.82,0:14:57.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,New Zealand hasn't actually\Nseen an increase
Dialogue: 0,0:14:57.94,0:15:00.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the amount of people doing sex work,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:00.08,0:15:02.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but decriminalizing it\Nhas made it a lot safer.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:03.27,0:15:04.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the lesson from New Zealand
Dialogue: 0,0:15:04.88,0:15:07.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,isn't just that its particular\Nlegislation is good,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:07.30,0:15:08.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but that crucially,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:08.47,0:15:10.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was written in collaboration\Nwith sex workers;
Dialogue: 0,0:15:10.81,0:15:13.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,namely, the New Zealand\NProstitutes' Collective.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:13.15,0:15:15.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When it came to making sex work safer,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:15.50,0:15:18.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they were ready to hear it straight\Nfrom sex workers themselves.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:19.25,0:15:20.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here in the UK,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:20.42,0:15:23.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm part of sex worker-led groups\Nlike the Sex Worker Open University
Dialogue: 0,0:15:23.87,0:15:25.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the English Collective of Prostitutes.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:25.99,0:15:27.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we form part of a global movement
Dialogue: 0,0:15:27.80,0:15:31.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,demanding decriminalization\Nand self-determination.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:31.65,0:15:34.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The universal symbol of our movement\Nis the red umbrella.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:34.42,0:15:37.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're supported in our demands\Nby global bodies like UNAIDS,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:37.54,0:15:39.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the World Health Organization
Dialogue: 0,0:15:39.17,0:15:40.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Amnesty International.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:40.92,0:15:42.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But we need more allies.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:43.18,0:15:45.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you care about gender equality
Dialogue: 0,0:15:45.54,0:15:48.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or poverty or migration or public health,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:48.36,0:15:50.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then sex worker rights matter to you.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:51.36,0:15:53.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Make space for us in your movements.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:53.40,0:15:56.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That means not only listening\Nto sex workers when we speak
Dialogue: 0,0:15:56.66,0:15:58.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but amplifying our voices.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:59.22,0:16:01.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Resist those who silence us,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:01.36,0:16:04.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those who say that a prostitute\Nis either too victimized,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:04.57,0:16:07.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,too damaged to know\Nwhat's best for herself,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:07.24,0:16:08.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or else too privileged
Dialogue: 0,0:16:08.100,0:16:11.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and too removed from real hardship,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:11.21,0:16:14.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not representative of the millions\Nof voiceless victims.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:15.71,0:16:20.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This distinction between victim\Nand empowered is imaginary.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:20.54,0:16:22.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It exists purely to discredit sex workers
Dialogue: 0,0:16:23.01,0:16:24.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and make it easy to ignore us.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:25.82,0:16:28.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No doubt many of you work for a living.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:28.56,0:16:30.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, sex work is work, too.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:30.88,0:16:32.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just like you,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:32.06,0:16:33.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some of us like our jobs,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:33.69,0:16:35.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some of us hate them.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:35.77,0:16:38.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ultimately, most of us\Nhave mixed feelings.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:39.24,0:16:41.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But how we feel about our work
Dialogue: 0,0:16:42.57,0:16:43.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,isn't the point.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:44.48,0:16:47.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And how others feel\Nabout our work certainly isn't.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:48.37,0:16:51.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What's important is that we have\Nthe right to work safely
Dialogue: 0,0:16:51.14,0:16:52.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and on our own terms.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:52.48,0:16:54.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sex workers are real people.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:54.82,0:16:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've had complicated experiences
Dialogue: 0,0:16:57.66,0:17:00.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and complicated responses\Nto those experiences.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:01.65,0:17:04.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But our demands are not complicated.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:04.45,0:17:07.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can ask expensive\Nescorts in New York City,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:07.27,0:17:10.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,brothel workers in Cambodia,\Nstreet workers in South Africa
Dialogue: 0,0:17:10.23,0:17:13.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and every girl on the roster\Nat my old job in Soho,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:13.38,0:17:15.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they will all tell you the same thing.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:15.74,0:17:17.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can speak to millions of sex workers
Dialogue: 0,0:17:18.01,0:17:20.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and countless sex work-led organizations.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:20.49,0:17:24.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We want full decriminalization\Nand labor rights as workers.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:24.98,0:17:27.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm just one sex worker\Non the stage today,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:27.32,0:17:29.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I'm bringing a message\Nfrom all over the world.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:29.92,0:17:31.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:31.11,0:17:37.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Applause)